Minorities Resolution Day and Qadianiat at its End

[SaadKnight]

Do also study this book whenever possible:
http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/lawy...-ki-karwai.pdf

 

[Wadaich]

Do also study this book whenever possible:
http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/lawy...-ki-karwai.pdf

Thanks for sharing soft version. By the grace of Allah (SWT) I have already read it.

 

[SaadKnight]

Thanks for sharing soft version. By the grace of Allah (SWT) I have already read it.

Ootay (bigsmile)

 

[Wadaich]

May Allah (SWT) Bless U and Your family. (Ameen)

 

[Ehraz]

Nothing to counter argument?
huh.......
You must be having dreams in broad daylight boy, nothing else....

You will not hear from me again on this topic, as the moderator have said your are not allowed in this section.
Kepp up your tar tar tar (yapping)(yapping)(yapping)for your toilet dead maseeha.

The Mod is one of clever kind type of Maulvi! He knows when you people are about to run empty of fuel, he either close the thread or delete my postings. :-)

Dream is not what you see when you sleep; Dream is something that doesn't make you sleep. You are sleeping like a groundhog

 

[khawaja555]

Do also study this book whenever possible:
http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/lawy...-ki-karwai.pdf

agar ye faisla kisi insan ne karna he ke kon kafir he aur kon muslim to qadiani to mar gaye? aur agar is ka faisla Allah Tala ne karna he to jo kisi ko kafir kahta he us ko ye zaroor sochna chahie ke Allah Tala behtar faisla karne wala he aur janane wala he. mera ye yaqeen he ke bande aur Allah Tala ke darmian koi nahin aa sakta is lie behtar to yahi he ke kafir aur muslim usi par chor dia jaye

 

[Ehraz]

agar ye faisla kisi insan ne karna he ke kon kafir he aur kon muslim to qadiani to mar gaye? aur agar is ka faisla Allah Tala ne karna he to jo kisi ko kafir kahta he us ko ye zaroor sochna chahie ke Allah Tala behtar faisla karne wala he aur janane wala he. mera ye yaqeen he ke bande aur Allah Tala ke darmian koi nahin aa sakta is lie behtar to yahi he ke kafir aur muslim usi par chor dia jaye

Nauzubillah, ye loog Khudda bannay huwain hain. Wahabi call sunni kafir and vice versa. Brellvi labels Deo Bandi as a kafir and so on and on... you people have decide Ahmadis not to call Muslim. Your elders and the governments did their best to eliminate the Jamaat planted by Allah himself, but all to gether failed miserable in their mission. Agar ye Jamaat kisi insaan ka plan hotta to kab ki tettar bittar ho chuki ho ti. To this the Jamaat is enrooted in 200 countries despite of all difficulties and hard opposition.

 

[Truth_Hurts]

I think thread starter made a typo when he wrote the title, Instead of writing Islam Ahmadiyat till the end he wrote Ahmadiyyat at its end :lol:
Its ok let you can live in fools paradise.. or more like hell caz isn't that what pakistan became since 1974. When Allah took his hand away from the people of Pakistan look what happend.

Oh yea and moderator....do you know what moderator means? i think you should check it out because clearly you have no idea how to do your job.....
and oh yea for those who are God fearing please visit the website www.alislam.org .
May Allah be with us all.

 

[zubair1234]

What you have achieved so far after declaring Ahmadies kafir in Pakistan. judgment day you will not be asked about ahmadiyya belief everyone will die, will risen and will be asked whatever they have done in the world. if tomorrow Iran declare that all sunnies are kafir and any other country declare that shia are kafir? will you accept? will you believe on these molvies those who are giving fatwas of kufar about each other sects?

but shia believe pbuh is last prophet.

 

[Ehraz]

but shia believe pbuh is last prophet.

And what is the Ahmadiyya point of view? Any idea? What is the Shia point of view about the first three guided Khulafahs? Sunni call Shia kafir and vice versa... so what?

 

[Ehraz]

...and oh yea for those who are God fearing please visit the website www.alislam.org .

if they were God fearing and righteous they wouldn't be in this terrible situation! Your appeal to visit the Jamaat official site I think your are asking for too much. :) I think they even don't read the Quran.

 

[Veila Mast]

if they were God fearing and righteous they wouldn't be in this terrible situation! Your appeal to visit the Jamaat official site I think your are asking for too much. :) I think they even don't read the Quran.

[MENTION=9105]Ehraz[/MENTION],

I have asked this question so many times to Qadiani about their stance on RIAZ AHAMD GOHAR SHAHI but no one bothers to reply so I shall appreciate if you could tell Qadiani's point of view about that man before OUR FUEL RUNS OUT!

According to your Mirza, Nubuwat is not ended so you should recognize RIAZ AHMAD GOHAR SHAHI as Nabi!

And if DECEIVE US by saying your so called prophet Ghulam Ahmad never claimed prophet hood but was a MAHDI then why don't you consider RIAZ AHMAD as Mahdi!

 

[Ehraz]

@Ehraz ,

I have asked this question so many times to Qadiani about their stance on RIAZ AHAMD GOHAR SHAHI but no one bothers to reply so I shall appreciate if you could tell Qadiani's point of view about that man before OUR FUEL RUNS OUT!

According to your Mirza, Nubuwat is not ended so you should recognize RIAZ AHMAD GOHAR SHAHI as Nabi!

And if DECEIVE US by saying your so called prophet Ghulam Ahmad never claimed prophet hood but was a MAHDI then why don't you consider RIAZ AHMAD as Mahdi!

Who ist Riaz AHmad Ghori Shahi? What is his Claim? I don't know him. Provide some authentic material about him.

It is not enough to stand up and call yourself Messia and Mahdi. You've to have come up with refs from Quran Ahadith etc.

 

[Veila Mast]

Who ist Riaz AHmad Ghori Shahi? What is his Claim? I don't know him. Provide some authentic material about him.

It is not enough to stand up and call yourself Messia and Mahdi. You've to have come up with refs from Quran Ahadith etc.

You didn't get my question: Let me ask simply PRINCIPLE straightaway!

There were many who claimed to be Nabi or Mahdi after Rasool Allah Sal Lallah o Wasalam so what is you stance about those: If they were right in their claim or not?

If there were WRONG then provide reasons.

If door of Nubuwah/Mahdi is still open, if not provide reasons.

Reply to these questions then we may proceed to real case scenarios!

Agreed?

 

[omerkashmiri]

[MENTION=13165]AbdulRehman[/MENTION]: Jazakallah for not allowing qadiyanis(Ahmadis) to comment on islamic beliefs !

 

[Veila Mast]

Be assured I understood your point of view, and as I mentioned above, I have had no clue who this person is.
I don't know how old you are, but this subject is so simple to understand, if I would ask my 10 year old nephew proberly he would laugh about it.;-)
Back to your question. If someone claim to be a Prophet, then he has to show valid proofs from Quran and Ahadith. So simple is that.

May I enhance your laugh by asking some more SILLY questions!

What are Quran and Hadith?

How about Hazrat Adam Alaih Salam, was He a Nabi Allah?

Was Quran and Hadith there in His time?

Neither you or nor me have to bring solid proofs for his claim. Don’t you read the Holy Quran? Read Quran and try to understand how Allah underline the life of all His Messangers. Like how they used to live before they make any claim etc.. Study the life of Moses(as), Jesus(as) or Muhmmad(saw) or Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as).

So you have announced Mirza is Nabi as you have mentioned him with others.

It is my believe that Allah is still the same God who spoke to Adam, Abraham, Musa, Isa and to all His other Prophets. It is my believe that Allah is the same God who shared some of his hidden secrets with His Momin men and women.
It is said that as a child Muhammad(saw) went on a expedition to Syria. A wise man saw him and said to people who came along with him to Syria that they should TAKE CARE OF THIS CHILD ONE DAY HE COULD BECOME A PROPHET. This wise man saw the pious qualities in him. Already during his childhood he showed many humble qualities of a man of God.
Whom the sky has destined a major task his heart and will undergoes trials and tribulations. There are so many characteristic attributes for a Nabi for being recognized as such.

Which part of my question asks such answer?

Muhammad(saw) foretold the coming of a Messiah and Imam Mahdi (see Ahadith). Allah almighty proved beyond any shadow of doubt that Messiah and the Mahdi was none other than Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from Qadian. He explained that God has appointed him in accordance with the prophecies in the Bible, in Quran and the traditions of the Holy Prophet of Islam Muhammad(saw) as the Messiah and Mahdi. He dedicated his life to studying the Holy Quran, prayer and devotion to God. When he realized that Islam was attacked from all sides with baseless accusations and the Muslims have not been able to react, he defended as an Imam and voice of the time Islam and depict the genuine teachings of Islam in its original form.

Can't you see contradiction what you said earlier?

Did Rasool Allah Sal Lallah o Wasalam predicted a NEW Nabi?

According to you Quran and Hadith testify Nabi then why did you mention Bible?

Didn't Sahaba Karam and Ta'been saved Islam from attacks so why only MIRZA is chosen one?

You are also awaiting for Jesus(as) to come from heaven. Can you tell me how and when its gonna happen and what will be his status if he comes? First of all you have to prove his ascend and then his return. You are in big trouble if you can't.

You are saying that I am in trouble as if I AM THE ONE RESPONSIBLE TO ASCEND AND RETURN OF HAZRAT ESA ALAIH SALAM!

Am I responsible?

Do you think I am GOD?

Lol!

That's it, that was your answer, you STILL got time to share EXTRA is you want you as I am sure YOUR FUEL hasn't run out yet!

ابتداۓ عشق ہے روتا ہے کیا
آگے آگے دیکھیے ہوتا ہے کیا​

 

[Veila Mast]

@Veila Mast The Holy Quran is a compilation of the verbal revelations given to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) over a period of twenty two years. The Holy Quran is the Holy Book or the Scriptures of the Muslims. It lays down for them the law and commandments, codes for their social and moral behaviour, and contains a comprehensive religious philosophy. The language of the Quran is Arabic. To the Muslims, the Quran is the Word of God and contains complete guidance for mankind. Much of the Quran is about God, His attributes and man's relationship to Him. But it also contains directives for its followers, historical accounts of certain prophets and peoples, arguments for accepting Muhammad as a genuine Prophet and good news for the believers and warnings for the disbelievers.
Apart from the Holy Quran and the practice of the Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw (Sunnah) are the Hadith, the third main source of Islamic thought and life. www.alislam.org

Hadith (plural: ahadith) is an Arabic word and its proper translation is: a speech or a statement that is either a report or has a narrative form.

Lol!

Your answer reminded me about "ROCKET SCIENCE"!

You didn't get my question at all!

What I challenged was your BASE to be Prophet and therefore I asked you if Quran and Hadith were in time of Hazrat Adam Alaih Salam so what was criterion to judge someone's claim that time!

You're not serious, are you? How pathetic is this? Frankly speaking I feel ashamed for you. You are not familiar to basic Islamic knowledge. Question: Is your faith in Muhammad (saw) genuine enough to include you among those who really believe?
Like Maudoodi said: “This hotch potch body of the so-called Muslims is such as nine hundred and ninety nine out of every one thousand have no knowledge of Islam whatsoever. They are incapable of distinguishing right from wrong. Nor have their moral and mental attitudes been in the least Islamicised. From father to son, from grandfather to grandson, they have only inherited a Muslim name no more.”

Beating around bush!

Isn't it?

The Holy Muhammad (saw) called him 4 times as Nabi ullah.

This must be written in MIRZA'S own book!

Isn't it?

To make you understand how God take care of His prophets. All prophets of Allah are rightly guided from their childhood.

Did I ask you about that?

Yes, he did

Again, Mirza's own piece of work!

If this is the scenario, why waiting Jesus to come?

Didn't Sahaba had belief about Return of Hazrat Esa Alaih Salam?

Likewise I am waiting, so I am on footprint of Sahaba and YOU MUST CONFESS THAT YOU DEVIATED!

Isn't it?

While you are propagating the claim of his ascension, directly you are responsible for fabricating or spread this huge lie.

You gave me really though time...;) next time come up with common sense and logic or just contact your Mullah on the corner around the block. ;)

Did I write Quran?

What is meant by "Inni" in particular Ayah?

Do you think that "Inni" is ME (VEILA)?

That it..........That was your answer!!!!!!!!!

That was your FUEL about you were boasting!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol!

 

[Ehraz]

[MENTION=14383]Veila Mast[/MENTION] Never argue with an idiot, he drags you down to his level and beat you with experience. You have beat me with experience. I surrender! :lol:
get a life man. Like your buddy crank both of you just waste of time. Thanks for preserving my post. The Mod is keen to delete it.

 

[Veila Mast]

@Veila Mast Never argue with an idiot, he drags you down to his level and beat you with experience. You have beat me with experience. I surrender! :lol:
get a life man. Like your buddy crank both of you just waste of time. Thanks for preserving my post. The Mod is keen to delete it.

Do in the Rome as Roman do!

So what to do!

Anyhow I shall appreciate if you could say the same in other thread as well started by crank.

At least you haven't got any complaint with Mods now!

Though I could be an idiot but not to such extent to claim PROPHETHOOD like your MIRZA did!!!!!

Lol!