Memogate case: Kayani submits rejoinder, says Haqqani sent memo

AshSanak

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
With all its faults, army is the only stable institution of Pakistan. History has shown that within army, they don't let petty grievances and prejudice divide them and always stand together in the time of crisis - something that either civilians or civilian governments have not been able to achieve to this day (unfortunately).

There are still people within army who oppose the blatant disregard of Pakistan's sovereignty and want to resist it therefore it is desired to get rid of these last standing resistance and demoralize the Pakistan's army. The army's role is being reduced to a tool which bullies and controls their own civilians (think Egyptian army).


Memo suggested removal of Kayani and Pasha in exchange of "certain liberties". And this is what being demanded right now. This whole memogate scandal has become all about removing Kayani and Pasha. So what was the actual purpose of that memogate scandal? Was it to trap the generals? The traitors of Pakistan play sinister double games.
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Things are getting serious day by day and over smart PM was telling us all it a non issue im all ears to hear the proceedings of next hearing ... As PM tried to give impression that they end on something with army but this reply is telling the same old story ... this means that this time around AAZ will be in london for a longer period of time.
iss corrupt GAY LANI ko PM kehna PM ke rutbay ki toheen hai yeh heejra hajion ka maal khanay wala jaali dubba peer history to zaleel tareen PM sabit hua agar iss ka DNA karaya jai to iss ki haramzadgion ki wajah bhi samajh aa jai gi aazmaish shartt hai
 

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
iss corrupt GAY LANI ko PM kehna PM ke rutbay ki toheen hai yeh heejra hajion ka maal khanay wala jaali dubba peer history to zaleel tareen PM sabit hua agar iss ka DNA karaya jai to iss ki haramzadgion ki wajah bhi samajh aa jai gi aazmaish shartt hai[/QUOTE

Ranaji haath hoola rakhna see ... main keya khair hagee Aa
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
iss corrupt GAY LANI ko PM kehna PM ke rutbay ki toheen hai yeh heejra hajion ka maal khanay wala jaali dubba peer history to zaleel tareen PM sabit hua agar iss ka DNA karaya jai to iss ki haramzadgion ki wajah bhi samajh aa jai gi aazmaish shartt hai[/QUOTE

Ranaji haath hoola rakhna see ... main keya khair hagee Aa
london day andder GAY LANI da pio wi kush nahi putt sakda .aur PM say hatney ke baad iss ki poori family ko log jootey maar maar ke jahanam wasil karen gay INSHAALLAH
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
We dont need a stable army who cannot protect us. Who sell pakistanis the people who are paying them from there pockets.
We dont need an army who creates these jihadi groups who in turn kill pakistanis. Thats like pakistanis paying there own murderers.
We dont need a merceneray army of usa.
We dont need an army who takes over our institutes. We dont want them to occupy us like we are there slaves.
They should respect this nation. They think they are seperated from the pakistan and have there own rules.
Enough of this crap . we need our nations army who protect us on borders. Do the job for which they are hired. Dont try to be smart arses to tell this nation what you think is best for pakistan. And we need an army who kills any blooody general who try to take over pakistan.
This country is not there baap ki jageer. This is ours and we dont want these plunderers to keep looting us.

With all its faults, army is the only stable institution of Pakistan. History has shown that within army, they don't let petty grievances and prejudice divide them and always stand together in the time of crisis - something that either civilians or civilian governments have not been able to achieve to this day (unfortunately).

There are still people within army who oppose the blatant disregard of Pakistan's sovereignty and want to resist it therefore it is desired to get rid of these last standing resistance and demoralize the Pakistan's army. The army's role is being reduced to a tool which bullies and controls their own civilians (think Egyptian army).


Memo suggested removal of Kayani and Pasha in exchange of "certain liberties". And this is what being demanded right now. This whole memogate scandal has become all about removing Kayani and Pasha. So what was the actual purpose of that memogate scandal? Was it to trap the generals? The traitors of Pakistan play sinister double games.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Yeh gay lani hai ya jo bhee hai. he was brought into power by nro which this army endorsed. So the responsibility again comes on these rascals. THey are the ones to be blamed.
iss corrupt GAY LANI ko PM kehna PM ke rutbay ki toheen hai yeh heejra hajion ka maal khanay wala jaali dubba peer history to zaleel tareen PM sabit hua agar iss ka DNA karaya jai to iss ki haramzadgion ki wajah bhi samajh aa jai gi aazmaish shartt hai
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Now I know who stole my pot!:lol::lol:
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Think big. Don't restrict yourself to personalities. Personalities are not bigger than Pakistan. If you ask for same sentence for everyone who is involved in corruption then everyone will be with you otherwise you will ask for Mushaaraf's head and someone else will ask for Kayani's head and so on.

Revolutions come with change in thinking and not the old style of thinking where your opponent is worthy of death. Think abut it.

I concentrate on problemzone first and fix it in advance before the cancer reaches the whole country. Think Smart.
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
You give yourself more anti pakistani by such statements. Haqani (if involved) which i am sure he is then you should write against Haqani and not Army Chief. Sometimes it is better not to answer, believe me.

What were your thoughts when everyone was against Gen. Musharraf?
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We dont need a stable army who cannot protect us. Who sell pakistanis the people who are paying them from there pockets.
We dont need an army who creates these jihadi groups who in turn kill pakistanis. Thats like pakistanis paying there own murderers.
We dont need a merceneray army of usa.
We dont need an army who takes over our institutes. We dont want them to occupy us like we are there slaves.
They should respect this nation. They think they are seperated from the pakistan and have there own rules.
Enough of this crap . we need our nations army who protect us on borders. Do the job for which they are hired. Dont try to be smart arses to tell this nation what you think is best for pakistan. And we need an army who kills any blooody general who try to take over pakistan.
This country is not there baap ki jageer. This is ours and we dont want these plunderers to keep looting us.

Blame ARMY. These bloody stupid politician had briliant chance almost for 4 years long to prove their abilities but they failed brutaly. They destroyed even all institutions only ARMY is left. No Water, No electricity, No Gas, Nothing left. So many people did suicide in last years, as never before. One Mafia Party claims it is political party but made Karachi to hell. Two monster and gangster parties MQM and ANP.

If Memo is true then you should stand up and salute Pakistan ARMY and ISI. Those fake politicians did sell every thing to zionist. Salute to Pakistan ARMY for their brave struggle against TTP. I wanted to go myself to kill few of these basterds with fake beard.

IK InshaAllah will bring real politics in Pakistan as it belongs.

ARMY's job is to lookafter national defence matters and priority to defend borders. They have lost nothing in politics.
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What were your thoughts when everyone was against Gen. Musharraf?

I was against Musharaf. He was the most idiot generals and a human. You could say conspiracy theory but he was the part of game which started after 9/11. He throwed out many people from ARMY whom he was afraid of. He was always a traitor in my eyes. I hate this man Musharaf.

I think today also every body is against Musharaf except on few may be less than 1% Musharafians.

He did not small crimes.

I never liked Musharaf except one thing. He promoted education in Pakistan. But same time i hated him again when he changed Islamic education books in schools.

I pray Allah that one day this man gets legal punishment in Pakistan what he earns.
 

AshSanak

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
We dont need a stable army who cannot protect us. Who sell pakistanis the people who are paying them from there pockets.
We dont need an army who creates these jihadi groups who in turn kill pakistanis. Thats like pakistanis paying there own murderers.
We dont need a merceneray army of usa.
We dont need an army who takes over our institutes. We dont want them to occupy us like we are there slaves.
They should respect this nation. They think they are seperated from the pakistan and have there own rules.
Enough of this crap . we need our nations army who protect us on borders. Do the job for which they are hired. Dont try to be smart arses to tell this nation what you think is best for pakistan. And we need an army who kills any blooody general who try to take over pakistan.
This country is not there baap ki jageer. This is ours and we dont want these plunderers to keep looting us.

Your comment is stupid and a mindless rhetoric. Did you even read what I wrote?? The tussle right now is to completely castrate the army and make them even worse bullies to civilians than they already are. So, it will be like out of the pan and into the fire.

True, army generals are no angels but I will not choose dirty Zardari-Galini team over the army generals.

Zardari & Co may wear a label of democratically elected government but they are far from it. What do you have to say for these elected politicians who are traitors, looters, plunderers, morally corrupt, perverted, hate mongers, mass murderers, who have sold Pakistanis for the sake of money, who have shown time and again that they will readily abandon their people on pretext of "self imposed exiles" only to come back when the coast is clear and begin the whole looting, plundering, murdering and hate inciting cycle again. Aren't you ashamed to be represented by these criminals????? You should be ashamed to call Zardari your president!!!!!

Who were demanding release of Raymond Davis......perhaps name Fauzia Wahab rings a bell? Who said that we will protest drone attack in the National Assembly and then ignore it..... your very own, hand selected Prime Minister Gilani.......Who wrote a congratulatory letter to US after the Abbottabad incident....??????


One can wish to solve all problems by a wave of wand, but unfortunately that cannot happen. In your crazy tirade You went on and on saying "we don't want this, we don't want that....." then what do you propose people do? Fire the army? Go army-less? You know what you don't want but do you know what you want and how to get it?????

So, right now focus on getting rid of dirty politicians and bringing honest people who will provide some infrastructure for the country which is going down. All the department from security to railway are going DOWN and at this time you want to take on army in support of Zardari???????.......And what good would that do? It will destabilize the country....is that what you want??
 
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A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
I was against Musharaf. He was the most idiot generals and a human. You could say conspiracy theory but he was the part of game which started after 9/11. He throwed out many people from ARMY whom he was afraid of. He was always a traitor in my eyes. I hate this man Musharaf.

I think today also every body is against Musharaf except on few may be less than 1% Musharafians.

He did not small crimes.

I never liked Musharaf except one thing. He promoted education in Pakistan. But same time i hated him again when he changed Islamic education books in schools.

I pray Allah that one day this man gets legal punishment in Pakistan what he earns.

Have you ever thought how a man like him, the way you have described, got promoted to the level of COAS?
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Have you ever thought how a man like him, the way you have described, got promoted to the level of COAS?

I know your intentions. I clear one thing. ARMY is not only Angels. There are back chanels which work and if there is long term planing sometimes are succeeded. Musharaf was one of such cases.
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
I know your intentions. I clear one thing. ARMY is not only Angels. There are back chanels which work and if there is long term planing sometimes are succeeded. Musharaf was one of such cases.

Who controls these back channels and how can we obliterate these back channels?

 

IhsanIlahi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Faisla SC ne he krna hai,,, aur Govt ne bhi fesla kr lya hai k SC nikaly gi to ham jaye gy,,, khud nahi jana inho ne,,,,
 

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