Master Says it, so the Slave Follows (Mr Nawaz Shareef)

Nawazish

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pakistan govt should hold talks with Taliban: Nawaz Sharif

LAHORE: Pakistan's main opposition leader Nawaz Sharif on Saturday said that the government should hold talks with the Taliban as part of its efforts to tackle the menace of terrorism as even the US has indicated its willingness to talk to militants.

"If Washington says it is prepared to talk to the Taliban who are willing to listen, then a similar initiative should also come from Islamabad. We should not only see what decision they (the Western countries) will make about our fate. We should decide our own fate," said Sharif, the chief of the PML-N party and a two-time former premier.

"We have this problem at home. Why don't we take initiatives? Why should we wait for others' initiatives?" he told a news conference at his home in this eastern Pakistani city.

Asked about failed peace attempts in the past, Sharif said: "Peace is the priority and for that, ways can be found."

Sharif's comments came two days after a pair of suicide bombers struck the Data Darbar sufi shrine in Lahore, killing 45 people and injuring over 200 others. There is considerable pressure on the PML-N-led government in Punjab to crack down on militants based in the southern part of the province.

The PML-N is perceived as being soft on pro-Taliban militants and provincial Law Minister Rana Sanaullah openly campaigned with leaders of the banned Sipah-e-Sahaba terror group during by-polls in Punjab earlier this year.

However, Sharif dispelled the impression that the PML-N is soft on or has links with militants, saying there would not have been terrorist attacks in Lahore and other parts of Punjab if this were true.

Sharif said there was no safe haven for the Taliban in southern Punjab. "It is our duty to eliminate terrorism wherever it is breeding. But we have no evidence of terrorists being present in southern Punjab. We do not see them there," he said.

He also said he was opposed to the use of the term "Punjabi Taliban" to refer to militants operating in the province. "Terrorists are just terrorists and have no boundaries and territories," he said.

The terrorism plaguing Pakistan is a result of policies made by federal governments in the past and current Pakistan People's Party-led coalition at the centre has not been able to find remedies, he contended.

The federal government could have turned to parliament and politicians for initiatives to be launched to tackle terrorism instead of waiting for directives from Washington, London and other Western capitals, he said.

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Nawazish

Minister (2k+ posts)
LOL Imran has been saying it for ages, everyone made fun of him..called him Taliban Khan and what not. Now Obama says and begairat says, yes sir yes sir
 

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
Mental slave with an IQ of minus 10 will follow the Crusader empire as a good brown slave.They treat Pakistan as their personel property.
Revalution similar to iran will eliminate all the problems of cancerouus coward leaders ooops agent rulers. Hosni Mubarak look at him??86 year president
For life??99% vote??Lol leaders ??Clowns serving their masters the JEWS..We want beace with israhell and kill shias of iran and pakistan..

Nawaz is a moron and ISI is supporting this idiot?wow..
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
ڈکٹیٹر کا ڈالا ہوا گند، عوامی نمائندے ہی صاف کریں گے
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ڈکٹیٹر کا ڈالا ہوا گند، عوامی نمائندے ہی صاف کریں گے

Avami numainday? those who hide in england so that they can save their skins and let their countrymen bear the brunt? Telephonic leaders? Those who chose to live under the rule of the very people from whome we got liberty through the sacrifises of millions of innocent people ? What avami numaindas are you reffering to??
 

thepearl

Minister (2k+ posts)
LOL Imran has been saying it for ages, everyone made fun of him..called him Taliban Khan and what not. Now Obama says and begairat says, yes sir yes sir

How close minded you are. When Imran says this you like that, when Nawaz says that you name him "begairat". double standards. you a slave of personalties. Right is always right and wrong is always wrong.
Nawaz Sharif always says to talk to Pakistani Taliban. We need to bring them back in our main stream. if your brother is not following you would you kill him or would you like to talk and convince him. if militancy is a sin then punish MQm first.

A request, dont use BAd words for NS, i can use more for Imran khan. but our politics, our voter is same, using bad language will not produce any good!!!!!
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Avami numainday? those who hide in england so that they can save their skins and let their countrymen bear the brunt? Telephonic leaders? Those who chose to live under the rule of the very people from whome we got liberty through the sacrifises of millions of innocent people ? What avami numaindas are you reffering to??

Yes, They are Awazmi Numaidey, If you have any doubt then would go to Court and file a writ against them Go Go, Hate monger
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The fact of the matter is that our current Government is unable to peovide the security and protection which is needed in present circumstances. The kind of security USA Governemnt is providing to its citizens. This is a realization Nawaz Sharif just have and Imran khan had it for many years. Both of them are right and none of them are saying this to please USA. Nawaz sharif came to the same conclusion but for different reasons and Imran Khan drew the right conclusion long ago using the different reasons. If we as a nation think on the long term basis, the Usa is trying to get out of Afghanistan and once they are gone, we will have a whole slew of things to face. If we allow other regional countries to take hold in Afghanistan, we could be in this fight for a very very long time. It is about time to set our priorities right for our future. And our future is directly tied to our relationship with Afghanistan for the safety of our citizens.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
If Nawaz Sharif and his party is so incompetent to deal with Extremism in Punjab that doesnt mean that Nawaz Sharif should selfish to people of Swat who left Swat and become IDPs just for that...If he wants to talk then why dont he join Imran Khan in that???If he cant protect his voters from extremists then its not Pakistan's fault to bear this mess....Pakistan has gone to far in this War that even hundreds of thousands had to left their areas for this so better these Taliban should be kicked out of this society for good and otherwise go to Afghanistan and live like savage their because Pakistan has no place for Taliban...
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
If Nawaz Sharif and his party is so incompetent to deal with Extremism in Punjab that doesnt mean that Nawaz Sharif should selfish to people of Swat who left Swat and become IDPs just for that...If he wants to talk then why dont he join Imran Khan in that???If he cant protect his voters from extremists then its not Pakistan's fault to bear this mess....Pakistan has gone to far in this War that even hundreds of thousands had to left their areas for this so better these Taliban should be kicked out of this society for good and otherwise go to Afghanistan and live like savage their because Pakistan has no place for Taliban...

In orderto oppose Nawaz Sharif, you are being the custodian of all Pakistan. It sound really funny from supporters of those who themselves are not willing to come back to Pakistan, Yet they are threatning to expell others from Pakistan !!!!

And don't try to sympathized with those IDP'S who had to leave their places to get away from the destruction. I remember, your leadership won't allow them to even enter Your province's territories and forced their buses full with childrens and womens to return back. Seems like you have no shame to even utter their name now.

The feeble efforts of this allinace ( which MQM is always a partner) to improve the security situation is laughable. It is sad that so many lives ahve been lost and we yet to see even one culprit is detained. If this would have happened to any other country, the Government including all parties would have resigned and go home. But not in Pakistan. Our country is dragged to this war which we will never see an end to. This dictator with help of other ass kissers, left us in to this mess. It would take years to clean it and many more lives to lost before this gang of idiots will realize how to plan for future and how to protect our people from this war of others.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
In orderto oppose Nawaz Sharif, you are being the custodian of all Pakistan. It sound really funny from supporters of those who themselves are not willing to come back to Pakistan, Yet they are threatning to expell others from Pakistan !!!!

And don't try to sympathized with those IDP'S who had to leave their places to get away from the destruction. I remember, your leadership won't allow them to even enter Your province's territories and forced their buses full with childrens and womens to return back. Seems like you have no shame to even utter their name now.

The feeble efforts of this allinace ( which MQM is always a partner) to improve the security situation is laughable. It is sad that so many lives ahve been lost and we yet to see even one culprit is detained. If this would have happened to any other country, the Government including all parties would have resigned and go home. But not in Pakistan. Our country is dragged to this war which we will never see an end to. This dictator with help of other ass kissers, left us in to this mess. It would take years to clean it and many more lives to lost before this gang of idiots will realize how to plan for future and how to protect our people from this war of others.
So if people like you can be custodian of whole Pakistan while representing one province who is stopping me to be something different???The fact is just like Punjabis Urdu speakers are also not liked by rest of Pakistan whatever might be the reason but that is true....Those whom you are saying that they dont want to come to Pakistan then for what reason they went out of Pakistan???Because their lives were in danger that is why so how can they come to Pakistan when their lives are still in danger???they might be playing their role from outside but they are not playing bad role that is for sure as they want to make their lives safe and which is only possible when lives of Pakistani people will be save on the first place...I hope you got my point...

OK for one reason I have no sympathies but tell me how much you people have sympathetic to them???How many people you or your province have sheltered???How many people you have hosted so far from WAR TORNED TRIBAL AREAS???Here in my city they are in Millions and you know how many zeros are their in millions but tell me how many are their in your whole province???Dont teach me those lesson which you yourself dont follow...And about my leader not allowing them to enter just provide me a single evidence where he said that "IDPs are not allowed" from his own mouth...Getting something checked and not allowing them to enter are two different things. We had a reservation that Taliban could disguise among them so that is why we asked to checked them before they enter but that doesnt mean that they werent allowed to enter...So get this fact correct...

That feeble efforts that you are talking about is something which is what your Azad adlia doing...As Zulfiqar Mirza and Interior Minister of Sindh said that thousands of terrorist were captured between 2001-2010 have been released by courts despite of having sufficient information against them and feeble efforts just tell me on which platform they didnt raise their voice against terrorism in Karachi???They even said that Army should be brought to deal with them but what about Punjab??Where your own party is winning by ther support so how would they even arrest those culprits as their success was only possible because of them....Talking about our country was dragged to the war then after watching their face you still believe that "they were good for our country"???were they worthy of getting Pakistan sacrificed???would you like your house to be destroyed for them???What ever you might answer but I wont like my house to be destroyed for those savages who cant even treat a person like a Human...If all of Pakistan's leader made consensus to get rid of them then it wont take "Years" but it would take some time like 2-3 years but not more then that but only if all leaders comes in consensus that Pakistan has no place for them...
 

lord_sultan

Councller (250+ posts)
Mental slave with an IQ of minus 10 will follow the Crusader empire as a good brown slave.They treat Pakistan as their personel property.
Revalution similar to iran will eliminate all the problems of cancerouus coward leaders ooops agent rulers. Hosni Mubarak look at him??86 year president
For life??99% vote??Lol leaders ??Clowns serving their masters the JEWS..We want beace with israhell and kill shias of iran and pakistan..

Nawaz is a moron and ISI is supporting this idiot?wow..
stil he said so wot abt q league anp mqm ppp any of there leader is saying so
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
So if people like you can be custodian of whole Pakistan while representing one province who is stopping me to be something different???The fact is just like Punjabis Urdu speakers are also not liked by rest of Pakistan whatever might be the reason but that is true....Those whom you are saying that they dont want to come to Pakistan then for what reason they went out of Pakistan???

The reason is very clear. If you allow murderers to leave the country and run away, who wouldn't take a chance ?
But my question is simple. come back to the country and start your politics within people., Obviously for those who can't even come back to live in their country for the fear of their lives, how could they sacrify anything for the name of the nation.
It is not possible.Because their lives were in danger that is why so how can they come to Pakistan when their lives are still in danger???they might be playing their role from outside but they are not playing bad role that is for sure as they want to make their lives safe and which is only possible when lives of Pakistani people will be save on the first place...I hope you got my point...

OK for one reason I have no sympathies but tell me how much you people have sympathetic to them???How many people you or your province have sheltered???How many people you have hosted so far from WAR TORNED TRIBAL AREAS???Here in my city they are in Millions and you know how many zeros are their in millions but tell me how many are their in your whole province???Dont teach me those lesson which you yourself dont follow...And about my leader not allowing them to enter just provide me a single evidence where he said that "IDPs are not allowed" from his own mouth..
If you really interested in the truth, then you shouldn't be asking that question. browse the BBC site for the archived articles and news and read about the buses which were not allowed to enter .Those buses were full with children and women travveling to move from the depressed areas.If, you even have a drop of shame left in you, you would not argue about the authnticity of this newsAs far as the words uttering from their mouth, obviously politicians speak from both side of their mouth whenever they say something. But the intention is obvious from their actions.
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Getting something checked and not allowing them to enter are two different things. We had a reservation that Taliban could disguise among them so that is why we asked to checked them before they enter but that doesnt mean that they werent allowed to enter...So get this fact correct...

That feeble efforts that you are talking about is something which is what your Azad adlia doing...As Zulfiqar Mirza and Interior Minister of Sindh said that thousands of terrorist were captured between 2001-2010 have been released by courts despite of having sufficient information against them [

when you catch those who got nothing to do with the crime and in court, there is no evidence to prove them guilty, why would you want to keep them in prison ? when you catch a guy who was collecting recycled items and papers from the ground and you found( funny how they find the planted gun from real criminals) gun from him, yet in court , they are proven wrong and no evidence to link him to terorrism, why cour twill allow him to be locked up ? Find the real culprits , bring strong evidence and then go to the court.

B]and[/B] feeble efforts just tell me on which platform they didnt raise their voice against terrorism in Karachi???They even said that Army should be brought to deal with them but what about Punjab??Where your own party is winning by ther support so how would they even arrest those culprits as their success was only possible because of them....

I know MQM and its workers are excellent in sowing the division and dividing the nation because that what is important for your Pir.
Talking about our country was dragged to the war then after watching their face you still believe that "they were good for our country"???were they worthy of getting Pakistan sacrificed???would you like your house to be destroyed for them???What ever you might answer but I wont like my house to be destroyed for those savages who cant even treat a person like a Human...If all of Pakistan's leader made consensus to get rid of them then it wont take "Years" but it would take some time like 2-3 years but not more then that but only if all leaders comes in consensus that Pakistan has no place for them...

If you only understand the underlying factors in this so called war, then you would not be making these irrelevant statements. Division in any country within their population is extremely dangerious. specially when you are invloved with foreign powers to do their bidding. unless and untill, the situation in Afghanistan doesn't get better, there is no way in hell that the security situation in Pakistan can improve.And in Afghanistan, as long as foreign troops are inside fighting, there is no chance of any peace taken place in that country. As I said before, peace in our country is directly connected to the situation in Afghanistan. Unless you have a security in your country on the same level of USA, there is no way you can provide the protection to every citizen of your country. We are better off, realizing this and plan for our future. You can only argue with this , if you are unable to see what is written on the wall.
 

Ammar isb

Councller (250+ posts)
The idea of holding negotiations with Taliban is not a viable option for Pakistan. Here often people cite the example of Afghanistan but we need to comprehend the fact that the Taliban are a stakeholders and a political entity in Afghanistan which is not the case in Pakistan. We have established political systems and anyone can be a part of through ballot not bullet!
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The idea of holding negotiations with Taliban is not a viable option for Pakistan. Here often people cite the example of Afghanistan but we need to comprehend the fact that the Taliban are a stakeholders and a political entity in Afghanistan which is not the case in Pakistan. We have established political systems and anyone can be a part of through ballot not bullet!

If you are under the illusion that the Taliban is a local phenomenon , then There is no arguments to be made. However, every one knows that what ever is happening in Afghanistan is directly impecting Pakistan . This whole war is about future stakes when the foreign troops would leave. It is not about Pakistan itself, but Pakistan security which is directly depend on peace in Afghanistan. It is important that we realize which forces are operating in Afghanistan and what their ultimate goal is.
 

thepearl

Minister (2k+ posts)
And about my leader not allowing them to enter just provide me a single evidence where he said that "IDPs are not allowed" from his own mouth...Getting something checked and not allowing them to enter are two different things. We had a reservation that Taliban could disguise among them so that is why we asked to checked them before they enter but that doesnt mean that they werent allowed to enter...So get this fact correct...

i am witness i saw mqm leaders saying in talk shows that why IDP's are coming to KARACHI, there are 100 cities from Bajur to Karachi, why they are not staying there.