Lahore Bar council puts a ban on Shezan Drinks

[آزاد امیدوار]

Tum in dono kee mohabat may mubtala ho.

Tum be in kay sath he ho..

Na mein Qadiani hoon na he Shia...

Kisi aur ko tag kero ja ker werna meri laat aur apki tashreef kay zam honay ka qawwi imkaan hay.

 

[mehwish_ali]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

Not everyone who opposes Qadiani is either a "Mullah" (a term used by Qadianis for their own motives) or a religious fanatic as you claimed. There are many like me who have based their opinions not on bias but on the basis of reading their material and research.

Therefore your claim that we should oppose then answer them on the basis of reasons. For your information that's what I have done for 4/5 years. You cannot accuse me of lack of tolerance. But my experience tell me that they are worst of the worst. Forget about academic discussion or research with them, they have their own concoctions and everything they do is to prove those lies, deceptions and concoctions. They are completely averse to any feed back, any reflection to what the truth may be.

For example, instead of using the similar quotes used frequently that Mirza did this Mirza did that, I decided to pick few topics and researched it myself, rather than swayed by what material is already available.
I checked the so-called revelations of Mirza to see if he was a genuine guy. What I find is that he was a grand liar. I wrote 3 articles based on his claims that he received revelations for his brother's and father's deaths from God in advance. In both cases I found conclusive evidence;

A- He didn't received any revelations whatsoever. Instead he concocted the lies years and years after their death.
B) Due to the passage of time he forgot when his father and brother died. Therefore he used varied years for both deaths, in the same book, few pages apart. My articles are there published, I have challenged Qadianis to take me to the courts and I will prove it under the accepted rules of evidence that Mirza was a grand liar.
No Qadiani has ever had the courage.


One of their biggest claim is that "Khatam" doesn't mean last but many things. Therefore, the prophethood has not come to an end after Prophet SAW. I research it and produced evidence from Mirza's own books from his alleged revelations. Mirza said God revealed to him "Ponder Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani is "Khatam RabulAlameen". For over two years I am asking Qadianis what "Khatam RabulAlameen" means according to their own meanings of the phrase "Khatam-un-Nabeen". But Qadianis keep running instead of answering my questions.

Why wouldn't they answer if their arguments are based on truth? What kind of liar was Mirza?
I tell you what kind of Liar was Mirza. He realised that Prophet Muhammad SAW has great honour given to him by Allah SWT as "Khatam-un-Nabeen". He tried to over come this problem all his life, to breach the barrier so he could be accepted as a new prophet by Muslims (nauzobillah). But he couldn't crack it. He decided to invent a title for himself. He thought there could be only one thing greater than Prophets, Allah SWT.
So he bestowed himself the title "Khatam RabulAlameen" (nauzobillah).

What you want me to call him?
And what would you say to those Qadiani who cannot answer reasonable questions based on the undeniable evidence from Mirza's own books?

I live in the UK, not far from Qadianis headquarters. Lots of them know me and my writings, my challenge is open to them to take me to the courts. But they never would, the day they decide, I would destroy Qadianiat forever.

Instead of using your stupid comments, keep out.

میں علمی اختلاف کے ہرگز خلاف نہیں ہوں۔ بالکل اختلاف کیجئے اور کھل کر کیجئے اور اسلام کی تبلیغ کیجئے۔

مگر اگر کوئی حق بات کو تسلیم نہیں کرتا تو اس پر غصہ یا دل برداشتہ نہ ہوں۔

رسول (ص) کفار کو بہت تبلیغ کرتے تھے، اور جب وہ ایمان نہیں لاتے تھے تو رسول (ص) دلبرداشتہ ہو جاتے تھے۔

اس پر اللہ نے رسول (ص) سے فرمایا کہ تمہاری ڈیوٹی فقط "حق بات پہنچا دینا ہے" ۔۔۔۔۔ اور یہ صرف اور صرف اللہ کی ذات ہے جو کہ ہدایت دینے والی ہے۔


مگر پاکستان میں مذہبی جنونیت انسانیت کے ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کرنے پر لگ گئی ہے، اور میری آواز انکے خلاف ہے۔


اس طرح کا معاشی بائیکاٹ رسول (ص) کا کفارِ مکہ نے بھی کیا تھا اور انہیں تین سال تک شعب ابی طالب میں گذارنے پر مجبور کر دیا تھا۔ یہ مذہبی جنونی انہیں کفارِ مکہ کی پیروی میں انسانی حقوق کی دھجیاں اڑاتے ہوئے ہر قسم کا زہر پھیلا رہے ہیں جو کہ غلط ہے۔

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[Temojin]

Leave it mates, the poster is a lady so we shouldn't go heavy on her.

 

[آزاد امیدوار]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

اس فورم پر قادیانی اور کٹمل حضرات کر پریم خوب زوروں پر ہے. مستبل قریب میںان کا آپس میں ضم ہونے کا قوی امکان ہے​

میں علمی اختلاف کے ہرگز خلاف نہیں ہوں۔ بالکل اختلاف کیجئے اور کھل کر کیجئے اور اسلام کی تبلیغ کیجئے۔

مگر اگر کوئی حق بات کو تسلیم نہیں کرتا تو اس پر غصہ یا دل برداشتہ نہ ہوں۔

رسول (ص) کفار کو بہت تبلیغ کرتے تھے، اور جب وہ ایمان نہیں لاتے تھے تو رسول (ص) دلبرداشتہ ہو جاتے تھے۔

اس پر اللہ نے رسول (ص) سے فرمایا کہ تمہاری ڈیوٹی فقط "حق بات پہنچا دینا ہے" ۔۔۔۔۔ اور یہ صرف اور صرف اللہ کی ذات ہے جو کہ ہدایت دینے والی ہے۔


مگر پاکستان میں مذہبی جنونیت انسانیت کے ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کرنے پر لگ گئی ہے، اور میری آواز انکے خلاف ہے۔


اس طرح کا معاشی بائیکاٹ رسول (ص) کا کفارِ مکہ نے بھی کیا تھا اور انہیں تین سال تک شعب ابی طالب میں گذارنے پر مجبور کر دیا تھا۔ یہ مذہبی جنونی انہیں کفارِ مکہ کی پیروی میں انسانی حقوق کی دھجیاں اڑاتے ہوئے ہر قسم کا زہر پھیلا رہے ہیں جو کہ غلط ہے۔

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[smssr84]

I was wondering keh agar iss speed se Pakistan main "non-muslims" ki cheezian ban hoti rahi tu end main Pakistan main sirf algebra hi bachye ga. coz for past so many hundred years, "Muslim Umma" has been busy in fighting and declaring who is muslim and who isnt. they havent worked in anything which works for the betterment of the society of mankind! ....

 

[awan4ever]

Tum in dono kee mohabat may mubtala ho.

Tum be in kay sath he ho..

Shezan pe aur thanda ho.. :lol:

 

[آزاد امیدوار]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

With thanks to @ambroxo

شکر ہے مہوش علی تم آ گئی
یہاں ایران

اورقادیان​

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تو سائبر جنگ ہارنے لگا تھا بس

جلدی آیا کرو ، ایران

اورقادیان​

کا سارا انحصار تمہارے اوپر ہے
اسے یوں تنہا نہ چھوڑا کرو


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میں علمی اختلاف کے ہرگز خلاف نہیں ہوں۔ بالکل اختلاف کیجئے اور کھل کر کیجئے اور اسلام کی تبلیغ کیجئے۔

مگر اگر کوئی حق بات کو تسلیم نہیں کرتا تو اس پر غصہ یا دل برداشتہ نہ ہوں۔

رسول (ص) کفار کو بہت تبلیغ کرتے تھے، اور جب وہ ایمان نہیں لاتے تھے تو رسول (ص) دلبرداشتہ ہو جاتے تھے۔

اس پر اللہ نے رسول (ص) سے فرمایا کہ تمہاری ڈیوٹی فقط "حق بات پہنچا دینا ہے" ۔۔۔۔۔ اور یہ صرف اور صرف اللہ کی ذات ہے جو کہ ہدایت دینے والی ہے۔


مگر پاکستان میں مذہبی جنونیت انسانیت کے ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کرنے پر لگ گئی ہے، اور میری آواز انکے خلاف ہے۔


اس طرح کا معاشی بائیکاٹ رسول (ص) کا کفارِ مکہ نے بھی کیا تھا اور انہیں تین سال تک شعب ابی طالب میں گذارنے پر مجبور کر دیا تھا۔ یہ مذہبی جنونی انہیں کفارِ مکہ کی پیروی میں انسانی حقوق کی دھجیاں اڑاتے ہوئے ہر قسم کا زہر پھیلا رہے ہیں جو کہ غلط ہے۔

 

[stealth123]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

اس فورم پر قادیانی اور کٹمل حضرات کر پریم خوب زوروں پر ہے. مستبل قریب میںان کا آپس میں ضم ہونے کا قوی امکان ہے​

you should be shame of your self to provoke sectarian Hatred.........

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

Western reserchers bhi Islam ko iss niyyat se "research" karne ki koshish karte hain to see if the stuff is genuine ... phir wo ossi tarah k conclusions tak pohunchte hain jahan tum jaise "independent" researchers pohunchte hain

Iceberg, we found out in the last closed threat, you are amongst those Qadianis who don't have answers. My challenge is open to any Qadiani around the world, you could debate with me any time of the day, take me to the courts if you have guts.

As for Islam and Muslims, what conclusion majority of Westerners reach is evident from how many of them are converting to Islam.

 

[shafi3859]

All who oposes this move,,,, what about banning jewish products.... Both acts are equal and justified.... Such companies are paying huge amount of money to work against the muslims and for the sack of their fake ideology... This is a silent protest against such ppl which is our legitimate right....

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

میں علمی اختلاف کے ہرگز خلاف نہیں ہوں۔ بالکل اختلاف کیجئے اور کھل کر کیجئے اور اسلام کی تبلیغ کیجئے۔

مگر اگر کوئی حق بات کو تسلیم نہیں کرتا تو اس پر غصہ یا دل برداشتہ نہ ہوں۔

رسول (ص) کفار کو بہت تبلیغ کرتے تھے، اور جب وہ ایمان نہیں لاتے تھے تو رسول (ص) دلبرداشتہ ہو جاتے تھے۔

اس پر اللہ نے رسول (ص) سے فرمایا کہ تمہاری ڈیوٹی فقط "حق بات پہنچا دینا ہے" ۔۔۔۔۔ اور یہ صرف اور صرف اللہ کی ذات ہے جو کہ ہدایت دینے والی ہے۔


مگر پاکستان میں مذہبی جنونیت انسانیت کے ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کرنے پر لگ گئی ہے، اور میری آواز انکے خلاف ہے۔


اس طرح کا معاشی بائیکاٹ رسول (ص) کا کفارِ مکہ نے بھی کیا تھا اور انہیں تین سال تک شعب ابی طالب میں گذارنے پر مجبور کر دیا تھا۔ یہ مذہبی جنونی انہیں کفارِ مکہ کی پیروی میں انسانی حقوق کی دھجیاں اڑاتے ہوئے ہر قسم کا زہر پھیلا رہے ہیں جو کہ غلط ہے۔

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Cut the crap Mehwish, the problem with Qadianis is not that they wouldn't engage in academic discussion. The problem is that they hate Muslims and Islam. They are enemies of Islam and Muslims, they do anything to harm Islam and Muslims and especially Pakistan.

If Shezan owners go down so be it, thousands of businesses go down in the world every month. Why are you so worried about them? If it is down to them they would destroy Islam and Muslims all around the world.

Don't be a hypocrite and keep out.

 

[آزاد امیدوار]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

1st read the title of the post [h=2](Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away)[/h] and then decide what this forum is promoting.

اس فورم پر قادیانی اور کٹمل حضرات کر پریم خوب زوروں پر ہے. مستبل قریب میںان کا آپس میں ضم ہونے کا قوی امکان ہے​

you should be shame of your self to provoke sectarian Hatred.........

 

[asallo]

OH GOD! what a shame on this nation. In islam you have rights to live your live the way you have and practice your religion what ever you have and a muslim nation should protect the rights of their minorities. Could you people who are in favor of this fitwa can tell me or prove me with any Quranic verse or hadith that business with non-muslim is haram or to protect rights and busnisses of non muslims in Islam is not allowed. I don't know about owners of Shezan foods whether they are muslim or not but even if they are then could you please tell me as a muslim in the light of quran and hadith what you are doing is justified or not ?

NOTE: please quote verses from quran if there are any to prove your saying.

 

[آزاد امیدوار]

And if these Qadyani are working against the Islam and Pakistan?

OH GOD! what a shame on this nation. In islam you have rights to live your live the way you have and practice your religion what ever you have and a muslim nation should protect the rights of their minorities. Could you people who are in favor of this fitwa can tell me or prove me with any Quranic verse or hadith that business with non-muslim is haram or to protect rights and busnisses of non muslims in Islam is not allowed. I don't know about owners of Shezan foods whether they are muslim or not but even if they are then could you please tell me as a muslim in the light of quran and hadith what you are doing is justified or not ?

NOTE: please quote verses from quran if there are any to prove your saying.

 

[hulk9]

support ur industries and products ............plz

if u can use coca cola ,nokia,samsung,toyota,lg,balck berry,honda,intel ,iphone and other then why not something made in pakistan no matter who made it at least it is giving ur ppl jobs ...........

huda kay leay yeh munafikat band karaoo is mulk ko barnay do ....

 

[saqi81]

That is a brave move we should ban every thing that is produced by jhote nabi,s follower.
boht ajeeb bat hy k sahaba to jhoti nbowat ka dawa krne waly k khilaf jehad krte thy or aj hm log srf un ki bnai hui chezo ko b chorne pr tyar nhi or phir b dawa krte hy nabi pr jan dane ka sochne ki bat hy qyamt wale din hoz e kauser pr ksy un k samna kry gy k hm aik juice ap k liye nahi chor skte thy?

You know that internet you are using is also invited by Kafir, Google you search everything hotmail you used is owned by Yahodees and one more thing the banks you put your money is all interest (sodi nzam) all goes to yahodees. What you are going to say to Holy Prophet PBUH ??? The thing you will be asked what have you done to preach them to teach kafirs have you done anything???????

 

[asallo]

And if these Qadyani are working against the Islam and Pakistan?

then you should prove it if people from shezan or anybody else is doing it. Quran and Hadith strickly forbidden to believe, telling anybody else or take any action on roumours before confirming the source and proof so if you have any proof please bring it forward specially for shezan because we are talking about them here.

An if you have any quranic verse or hadith please let me and other know.

 

[آزاد امیدوار]

And if this Shetan Cola is giving handsome amount as donation to their danger khana.

I know this fact personally and not heard from any one.

then you should prove it if people from shezan or anybody else is doing it. Quran and Hadith strickly forbidden to believe, telling anybody else or take any action on roumours before confirming the source and proof so if you have any proof please bring it forward specially for shezan because we are talking about them here.

An if you have any quranic verse or hadith please let me and other know.

 

[iceburg]

Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away

Iceberg, we found out in the last closed threat, you are amongst those Qadianis who don't have answers. My challenge is open to any Qadiani around the world, you could debate with me any time of the day, take me to the courts if you have guts.

As for Islam and Muslims, what conclusion majority of Westerners reach is evident from how many of them are converting to Islam.

Why I take you to Court? Mera kya biggarra hai tum ne? Ya phir waise he tumhain koi ehsaas-e-juram satata rehta hai..??

Last thread main it was you who kept quite. Ab bhi wo thread khol k dekh lo ... sab log he quite ho gaye thay ... no one including you could answer my questions. Tum pata nahi apne kon kon se unanswered questions pe itrate rehte ho ... Jo koi tumhari tarah siraf naam ka he "independent" na ho forun os ko Qadiyani samajhne lagte ho. Main poochta hoon jis waqt tum apni "independent" research kar rahe thay (jaisa k tum claim karte ho) ... os waqt tumhara Mirza Sahib k baare main kya aqeeda tha? Kya os waqt tum bhi Qadiyani bane hue thay...???

Tumhare liye dunya main do cheezein hain. Nawaz Sharif k assets aur doosra Mirza Qadiyani.

Your following words sufficiently prove your narrow mindedness and shallow approach in your "researches".

"Mullah" (a term used by Qadianis for their own motives)

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Allama Iqbal sahib ne bhi Mullah ka lafaz istimaal kiya tha... tum tu keh bhi do gy k Allama Iqbal sahib Qadiyani thay... Hai na...???

And now no need to reply me on other thread. Tumhari silence ab record pe aa chukki hai and your response time is now time barred...!!!

 

[asallo]

And if this Shetan Cola is giving handsome amount as donation to their danger khana.

I know this fact personally and not heard from any one.

So what are you not giving any money as donation to masjid so what they are doing giving donations to their "Ibadat gha" it's not a crime and you cannot say this is against Pakistan and Islam.
Other thing if this is against Pakistan and Islam then why you drink coca cola, use your computer as they all have Intel chip and Intel is JEW company and they give openly donation to Israel. Same for coca cola.
What else I tell you list of things will go on you use in your daily life, so stop using all of them as they fund Israel. But you know you don't do this ever. This is real hypocrisy and almost every Pakistani is Hippocrates. Change the meanings of Quran and hadith according to the requirements.