Jumma mubarak mei farz or sunnat rakaat kitni hain

Kamboz

Minister (2k+ posts)
u dnt need to become emotional as this is the problem of All Muslims become emotional when some other person share his views. U cnt guarantee ur right n to whom u hav answered cnt guarantee he is right. He had shared his views and u cn share ur views in a low tone after that if someone accept ur wording that is the gud way. Increasing hatred amond different sect and believing ur the only right path is the main reason of our destruction. For God sake accept other sects and made peace with each other. Every person has a right to believe in anything want he wants

I am not emotional, but I think you are being emotional. The person said clearly that Shafii, Malki and Hanbli are according to Hadith but Hanafi is just taqleed. So I answered him. Also I am not suggesting that other maslak are wrong. But I feel that nothing is hanafi is away from Sunna. I dont want to divide nor criticise others. I simply answered his comment , people can follow what they like but they shouldn't speak with out knowledge on matters they don't know.
 

hassanattique

MPA (400+ posts)
Well here i dnt need to become emotional because i dnt even belief in any sect. I consider all sect as man made that is my point f u. U can contradict with it. The problem with your answer is the harsh words u hv used in your reply to that person. If he had said something which you belief is not right then you should have shared with reference only that this is what i think and may be u hv skipped from your reading. Instead you adopt a way to say you are wrong you dnt know anything you haven't read anything etc this will always bring useless debate who is right. If you had just shared with some reference and told him to read it after that let that person be alone to accept what u have told or he can reject.

I am not emotional, but I think you are being emotional. The person said clearly that Shafii, Malki and Hanbli are according to Hadith but Hanafi is just taqleed. So I answered him. Also I am not suggesting that other maslak are wrong. But I feel that nothing is hanafi is away from Sunna. I dont want to divide nor criticise others. I simply answered his comment , people can follow what they like but they shouldn't speak with out knowledge on matters they don't know.
 

casper_iam

MPA (400+ posts)
Brother you are so DUMB. what was your motive to ask if you want to prove something else? Few minutes ago you didn't know how to search on youtube and now you know.

Brother i didn't say that i cannot search in youtube my motive is to find out that how much raqaat one should pray as per sunnah, if there is any hadeeth which proves the raqaat shown in the table shared by rashid then i shall follow that.. you understand
 

casper_iam

MPA (400+ posts)
Well here i dnt need to become emotional because i dnt even belief in any sect. I consider all sect as man made that is my point f u. U can contradict with it. The problem with your answer is the harsh words u hv used in your reply to that person. If he had said something which you belief is not right then you should have shared with reference only that this is what i think and may be u hv skipped from your reading. Instead you adopt a way to say you are wrong you dnt know anything you haven't read anything etc this will always bring useless debate who is right. If you had just shared with some reference and told him to read it after that let that person be alone to accept what u have told or he can reject.

so you think that hadeeth is not authentic in which it is mention that there will be 73 sects and only one will be right
 

hassanattique

MPA (400+ posts)
yes in my point of view the hadith is nt authentic. For reference kindly see below link if u can understand punjabi. I dnt say you to belive what i am sain belief what u think u right. I mind accept what ever is told in below link because if i think upon this issue one question comes in my mind when our ARMY fight with enemy many soldiers got shaheed so it mean any person who belong to anyother sect will goto hell but he believe in God and last prohet he gave his life in fighting for God so this hadith dnt fit on such situations as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g03ei3bHzmQ

so you think that hadeeth is not authentic in which it is mention that there will be 73 sects and only one will be right
 

Imran Siddiqi

Minister (2k+ posts)
The problem with most Pakistanis coming to live in the US is that they get influenced by the majoirty of Arabs and Africans in the masjid... after a while you'll see them start moving thier arms, Rafa'den..etc.
This is mostly out of ignorance, since they feel themselves inferior to the Arabs who they think know more Quran and Hadith. My question is what good is the Quran or hadith memorized where the person is not following it.
For example, majoirty of Arabs, Africans eat meat from any restaraunt or supermarket, while an ordinary Pakistani who is not even a namazi, will refrain from it and always eats Halal. I met an Arab who ridiculed Pakistanis in the masjid that ,O, they are so rigid they insist on halal meat while he was proud to declare that he eats any meat...he said during a session of Quran tafseer.
If we can eat from supermarkets ,then why do we have the concept of Halal meat shops in the first place.
I am proud to say that while here in the US, they want to tell you that Hanafi maslak is so callled invented by some jahil Mullah, but we are the ones who are most close to the Sunna of the beloved Prophet(swl).
I can cite a few more examples of how they take the religion so lightly, while decalring that they know more than us. The matter of 'massa' on the socks is another one..... People have taken it too far, and cleanliness is gone out of it.
Jazakallah Brother for your candid feedback.
I really appreciate it. I did not mean to say that Hanafis do not follow the sunnah but this is true that most people in our country where non arabic speakers are in majority prefer taqleed. if we follow the essence of Islam we will not have such meaningless arguments that we are having right now. You have described Majority of ARABs with one wide brush in your post. Just because you hang out with the wrong guy. it does not mean that all arabs are like that. There are countless stories of our pakistani brothers checking for not only halal meat but also the ingredients of cereal and bread with their American Girlfriend in the mini Skirt Helping them. ( someone said that Suwar naheen khana per harkatain Suwar jaisee Karnee hain) This does not mean that all Pakistanis are like that.
Back to topic. This is not a discussion about Arab and non Arabs. Malaysians, Indonesians are much better muslims then most of us. They are not Arabs. Some of the Converts from Christianity have better understanding of Quran and sunnah than most of us.
We have more resources available to us today about seeking the truth. I believe anyone who is capable of having serious discussions on Siasat.PK is capable of getting the knowledge if they desire.
Afterall the muslim Ummah is in turmoil for a reason. We are more concerned about our school of thought than the thought itself. When the length of Shalwar and Beard becomes a bigger issue than Honesty, Namaz, and justice, When moonsighting becomes a bigger problem than distribution of fitra and unity of ummah than we have lost the battle. I do not belong to any school of thought. I try to follow what makes sense and not what is easy or what everyone else is doing.
Just my 2 cents. You have every right to disagree and even issue a fatwa about me. I do not mind at all.
May allah help us all.
 

Imran Siddiqi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Who told you that others are following Hadith and hanafis are not? Are you saying hanafis are following Imam Abu Hanifa and not following Nabi (swl).
This is the blatant lie that is being spread, Each and everything in Hanafi school of thought is ALL SUNNA 100%.... please hear me again....
Everything is proven from Authentic Hadith..... you think you know today more tha Imam Abu Hanifa? He and his students dedicated their lives to following even the minutest detail of Sunna of Prophet (salalualiawasalam)
Since you moved overseas, and became better informed, so you better study something about Hanafi , before you speak next time.... Dont be ignorant!


My dear brother in Islam I think this will be a very unfair question for me to ask you that do you know more than Imam Malik and Imam Shafaii and Imam Humble together. Of course not. You choose to follow the Hanafi School of thought only because of two reasons either you are born in a hanafi family or decided to follow it because you found it more authentic than the others. This is the very reason we are Muslims as well. Allah SWT has encouraged us again and agin to use the paper weight on our shoulders called Brain and think about the signs and the message described in quran and sunnah. Those who understand the language of the message better are obviously have an advantage unless we also spend some of precious online blogging time and learn arabic.
I never Said that Imama Abu Hanifa did not follow Hadith. I was referring more towards us the followers after many centuries. What was Imam Abu Hanifas Fatwa about Jageerdari. What was the issue of Talaq one vs three, Reading Surah fatiha in Salah, Two Azan vs one AZAN in Jummah and so on. There are issues that we can find to establish credibility over each other but this against the spirit of islam we should be more focused on pleasing Allah and uniting ummah and bringing down the barriers amongst us ARAB vs Non Arab and Hanafi vs Maliki and Sunni Vs Shia etc. We should get out of this school of thought rigidity. We are all free to follow what we think makes sense to us. (within Quran and hadith ).
If you misunderstood my comments than I apologize. I respect all four of them equally and many others too. I try to benefit from all of them. I do think of any one as AAZAM than the others. AAZAM is only Allah and his messenger Muhammad SAW. Not Quaid e Azam or Imam-e Azam.
 

Yasir Kiani

MPA (400+ posts)
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