ISI best spy agency....a must read article....

aqibarain

Minister (2k+ posts)
Can you help with finding the job?

Btw, how are workings of an intelligence agency similar to public/private organization?

Ok for starters. Take army as mega security company like G4S but on mega scale. G4S serves banks and army serves governments which have those banks.

They have their won different organization structure than any other they also have desk/computer in there office and every boss has a bigger boss... ppl become big boss not because how good muslim they r but how senior they r and experience...
Isi is sub part of army nd they work same way ..
Was it soo dificult????
 

aqibarain

Minister (2k+ posts)
Every then and now some poor kid would come up with "ISI world's best agency" storyline. The repetition seems a mere reassurance to one's own self as deep down everyone knows that there is something pathologically wrong with this storyline. I have never seen an American campaigning for CIA on social media but unlettered poor bloody civilians of Pakistan have been pushed to such margins of idiocy and mental slavery that they now involuntarily come up with such threads.

Aap ni to bajaaaa di in idddiiots ki :)
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Follow this link and decide for yourself where ISI stands in world ranking:http://www.smashinglists.com/10-best-intelligence-agencies-in-the-world/
:)
A bit realistic description of ISI so far......

[h=2]3. ISI – Pakistan[/h]
Pakistan-ISI-600x395.jpg

Formed1948
JurisdictionGovernment of Pakistan
HeadquartersIslamabad, Pakistan
Agency executiveLieutenant General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, PA Director General
With the lengthiest track record of success, the best know Intelligence so far on the scale of records is ISI. The Inter-Services Intelligence was created as an independent unit in 1948 in order to strengthen the performance of Pakistan’s Military Intelligence during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1947.

A- Its success in achieving its goal without leading to a full scale invasion of Pakistan by the Soviets is a feat unmatched by any other through out the intelligence world. KGB, The best of its time, failed to counter ISI and protect Soviet interests in Central Asia.

B- It has had 0 double agents or Defectors through out its history, considering that in light of the whole war campaign it carried out from money earned by selling drugs bought from the very people it was bleeding, The Soviets.

C- It has protected its Nuclear Weapons since formed and it has foiled Indian attempts to attain ultimate supremacy in the South-Asian theatres through internal destabilization of India.

D- It is above All laws in its host country Pakistan ‘A State, with in a State’.

E- Its policies are made ‘outside’ of all other institutions with the exception of The Army.

F- Its personnel have never been caught on camera. Its is believed to have the highest number of agents worldwide, close to 10,000. The most striking thing is that its one of the least funded Intelligence agency out of the top 10.

Some of the above points are just hilarious though true:).
However, no mention of its inability to avoid 50,000 civilian causalities in the last 14 years, using the people of its 'host' country to wage proxy wars and thus resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis. And also no mention of its role as most ruthless killer of Muslims worldwide. ISI directly or indirectly has killed (and is still killing) millions of Pakistani, Afghani and Indian Muslims through its proxy wars; a number and feat unmatched by any other kaffir army or spy agency, Allah-o-Akbar!
 

Jasmine Esfahani

Councller (250+ posts)
I was just digging around the various websites that describe ISI as the best security agency. The first website that made this claim had a paragraph about ISI written in daft English and i am sure some Major of Pakistani Army would be behind this poorly written script. This unprofessional website states

1. Inter service intelligence (ISI), Pakistan
This intelligence service is belonging from the Pakistan and there working performance is one of the best performances in all over the world and no doubt that this is one of the best intelligence agencies in all over the world. In the list of top ten worlds best intelligence agencies 2014, this intelligence agency is deserved at 1st number. The main operationally responsible is that to provide the critical national security and intelligence assessment to the Government of Pakistan. The ISI was structured to be manned by officers from the three main military services, and to specialize in the collection, analysis and assessment of external intelligence, either military or non-military. - http://www.onlinenewspoint.com/top-...ncies-in-the-world-2014/#sthash.vEHa4Vme.dpuf

The second website has described ISI as the best intelligence agency with a much more poor English script. However , it has quoted a source for its claim and the source is "American Crime news". After a good amount of search i found out that most of the "patriotic" Pakistanis who have shared this hoax (remember that Agha waqar melodrama?) have unthinkingly copy pasted "American Crime News" as the source. The fact of the matter is that there is no magazine or any online resource titled as "American Crime News". So it is just another "patriotic" hoax.
http://alltoptens.com/top-ten-best-intelligence-agencies-world/
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
Agar thora ghor karo tu yeh isi ka kam nahi hay is k liyeh Ib cid waghaira hoti hain jaisay America main fbi hay domestic crim k liye aur cia international kam karti hay isi tarah Isi international dekhti hay yeh us ka kam nahi hay. isqadar ghusa nahi hotay ghor karo. unless khuda wastay ka bair ho tu doosree bat hay.

Yar agar Balochistan main Indian RAW aur American CIA waghera mulawwis hain to phir to yeh ISI ka hi kaam hay keh un ko counter kare. Isi tarha TTP ke peechay agar RAW aur CIA hain to ab tak to un ko benaqab ho jana chahiye tha.
 

Jasmine Esfahani

Councller (250+ posts)
There are various popularity-oriented websites that rank various things related to the popular sentiments like the most popular movie of the year , the most popular Hollywood scandal of the year , the most popular cell phone of the year and so on. Do you people really think that such websites can rank the world's intelligence agencies? If the news is genuine then quote a source from some defense journal or some professional security think-tank.
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am sure un ko pata hai but they are under PM who does not want to loose any political mileage.

In logon ne PM ke under hote huway hi Benazir ke khilaf IJI banei thi. Army chief bhi PM ke under hi hay. Musharraf bhi PM ke under hi tha. Agar kuch karne ki neyat ho to bohot kuch ho sakta hay. Bas Najanay kon si muslihat hay jo in ko action lene se rok rahi hay.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In logon ne PM ke under hote huway hi Benazir ke khilaf IJI banei thi. Army chief bhi PM ke under hi hay. Musharraf bhi PM ke under hi tha. Agar kuch karne ki neyat ho to bohot kuch ho sakta hay. Bas Najanay kon si muslihat hay jo in ko action lene se rok rahi hay.

At that time there was a political wing of the ISI which was formed by father of BB for exactly the same reasons. Now that wing has been abolished. Besides every time there was a martial law why did these politicians become a part of that government? why could they not stay away? There can be a thousand excuses given for arguments either way and that will do nothing for any side. Here and now is what we should concentrate on to move ahead.
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ok for starters. Take army as mega security company like G4S but on mega scale. G4S serves banks and army serves governments which have those banks.

They have their won different organization structure than any other they also have desk/computer in there office and every boss has a bigger boss... ppl become big boss not because how good muslim they r but how senior they r and experience...
Isi is sub part of army nd they work same way ..
Was it soo dificult????

You know what, I think you are on to something here. I see a potential for royalties for you from 'spy agency org. structure defined and its comparison with the corporate world for dummies' ;)

Its become crystal clear how the military works like G4S and ISI being part of the military works just like the corporate world because they have desks/computers/bosses/employees. And, all these years I thought that spy agencies are completely different beasts.

Thanks for the tutorial. Never knew that it was so simple. Now it makes sense why Ayesha Siddiqa used 'military inc.' as the title of her book.
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There are various popularity-oriented websites that rank various things related to the popular sentiments like the most popular movie of the year , the most popular Hollywood scandal of the year , the most popular cell phone of the year and so on. Do you people really think that such websites can rank the world's intelligence agencies? If the news is genuine then quote a source from some defense journal or some professional security think-tank.


Don't rain on their parade (pun intended).

I have been saying the same thing every time I saw these stupid top 10's mentioned but you can't convert(make sense to) zealots.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mostly it is Mr. Lal Topi and his minions who create this crap on the net and pollute it.



I was just digging around the various websites that describe ISI as the best security agency. The first website that made this claim had a paragraph about ISI written in daft English and i am sure some Major of Pakistani Army would be behind this poorly written script. This unprofessional website states

1. Inter service intelligence (ISI), Pakistan
This intelligence service is belonging from the Pakistan and there working performance is one of the best performances in all over the world and no doubt that this is one of the best intelligence agencies in all over the world. In the list of top ten world’s best intelligence agencies 2014, this intelligence agency is deserved at 1st number. The main operationally responsible is that to provide the critical national security and intelligence assessment to the Government of Pakistan. The ISI was structured to be manned by officers from the three main military services, and to specialize in the collection, analysis and assessment of external intelligence, either military or non-military. - http://www.onlinenewspoint.com/top-...ncies-in-the-world-2014/#sthash.vEHa4Vme.dpuf

The second website has described ISI as the best intelligence agency with a much more poor English script. However , it has quoted a source for its claim and the source is "American Crime news". After a good amount of search i found out that most of the "patriotic" Pakistanis who have shared this hoax (remember that Agha waqar melodrama?) have unthinkingly copy pasted "American Crime News" as the source. The fact of the matter is that there is no magazine or any online resource titled as "American Crime News". So it is just another "patriotic" hoax.
http://alltoptens.com/top-ten-best-intelligence-agencies-world/
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Every then and now some poor kid would come up with "ISI world's best agency" storyline. The repetition seems a mere reassurance to one's own self as deep down everyone knows that there is something pathologically wrong with this storyline. I have never seen an American campaigning for CIA on social media but unlettered poor bloody civilians of Pakistan have been pushed to such margins of idiocy and mental slavery that they now involuntarily come up with such threads.

"Every time a poor kid comes up with ISI world's best agency" there is a poorer kid who can not refrain from responding to this by trying hard to look superficially for a kiddish remark and then starts to compare it with US or some other country! strange, that temptation to respond is too strong to resist.
Chalo lagay haathoon zara US or West kay media ko bhe compare ker lo! I think you will find yourself looking left or right.
 

Jasmine Esfahani

Councller (250+ posts)
"Every time a poor kid comes up with ISI world's best agency" there is a poorer kid who can not refrain from responding to this by trying hard to look superficially for a kiddish remark and then starts to compare it with US or some other country! strange, that temptation to respond is too strong to resist.
Chalo lagay haathoon zara US or West kay media ko bhe compare ker lo! I think you will find yourself looking left or right.

کذب مقدس کو بچانے کے لیے کیسے کیسے افکار پریشان لوگ گڑ لیتے ہیں. معلوم ہوتا ہے کے اپنے تیے آپ نے دلیل دینے کی کوشش کی ہے ، ذرا وضاحت کریں
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کذب مقدس کو بچانے کے لیے کیسے کیسے افکار پریشان لوگ گڑ لیتے ہیں. معلوم ہوتا ہے کے اپنے تیے آپ نے دلیل دینے کی کوشش کی ہے ، ذرا وضاحت کریں

Samajhna na chahain to hum kiya karain! Bholay mut banain, vaisay to bohat samajh payee hai aap nay bari bari gehree batain aap ko dikh jatee hain.
 

aqibarain

Minister (2k+ posts)
You know what, I think you are on to something here. I see a potential for royalties for you from 'spy agency org. structure defined and its comparison with the corporate world for dummies' ;)

Its become crystal clear how the military works like G4S and ISI being part of the military works just like the corporate world because they have desks/computers/bosses/employees. And, all these years I thought that spy agencies are completely different beasts.

Thanks for the tutorial. Never knew that it was so simple. Now it makes sense why Ayesha Siddiqa used 'military inc.' as the title of her book.

Im glad now u understand
 

Neutral man

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistan k qayam k bad angrez iski bag dorr apne pitho'on k hathon me de gaye the,, jo k hame bureaucrats or establishment ki shakal me nazar a te hn,,, ye wo tabka he jo Pakistan k 95 % wasail pr qabiz hn,,, sirf peso k liye ghero ki jang lele ta hn, Hame war state kaha jane laga he,,, jaha mulk ko provinces ki zaroorat he, chote sobon, jese balochitan or sindh etc ko uske haqooq nahi milte,, hamara asal masla awam ko khush rakhna he na k beroni aaqaon ko,,
or sab se hasne ki bat to ye he jo inke khilaf bolta he wo Ghaddar keh lata he,, Hamari ISI number 1 he lekin hm 2 number kamo men bhi Number 2 hn ye koi nahi bolta,,, hum kaha ja rahe hn or dunya kaha ja rahi he,,
thori si kahani sun len "Fatima Jinnah ko ghaddar keh kr iqtadar me a'te hn, phr bhutto wadere ko istamal kia jata he,,, uska kam pora hota he to Hamare wohi angrez pitho apne mufadat k liye Zia ul Haq ko late hn jis ne klashinkov culture mutaruf krwaya,, mazhab k nam pr Khoon ki holi kheli jati he,,, phir yehi Noora ***** wajood me a ta he jo politician kam business man zada he,,, (Khush na hn Imran khan k bhi army se family relation hn),, Musharraf ne bhi wohi kia jo
Quaid e Azam ne ek azad muslim riyasat ka khuwab dekha tha,,, Magar hm to apno k hi ghulam ho gaye,,
 

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