ConcernedPakistani
MPA (400+ posts)
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Indian Operation Against the Sikhs
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BB Shaheed probably gave the list to Chowdhury Aitezaz Ahsan and who gave it to his dear friend Rajiv Gandhi.
India dismembered Pakistan. Did everything to destroy it. And our great politicians help india to consolidate itself.
Had this Khalistan been established by Bhindranwala, situation would have been quite different for Pakistan.
India dismembered Pakistan. Did everything to destroy it. And our great politicians help india to consolidate itself.
Had this Khalistan been established by Bhindranwala, situation would have been quite different for Pakistan.
Nepali Pandit
MPA (400+ posts)
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abdulhaseeb23
MPA (400+ posts)
Jury said:
ais bande ki khud ki credibility kia hai hai joo khud aik Pakistan ke jhote aur zalim, ayash aur qatil General ka hami hai
abdulhaseeb23
MPA (400+ posts)
yeh Allah ka nizam hai bhaiyon yeh wahi sikh hai jinhoo ne Hindu ko kehne per aur Pakistan ke banne per migrate kerne wale 40 lakh nihate muslim ko Zinda kat dia tha aur ain ki aurton ka rape kiya thaa,, phir yeh bhi ausi hindu ke nainsafiyon per jab uthe tou inhi Hinduoan ne unn per bhi opertion karwa kar sekron Sikhon ko maar dia abh yeh wahi sikh hai jo ajj apni azadi ke liye Pakistan ke aun Muslims se madad mang rahe hain jin ke buzargon ko inho ne maara tha ,,,
Allah Ka nizam hai yeh ""jo jesa kerta hai wesa hi bharta hai""""......
Sikhon ne apni Dariyan aur bal mundwa liye thee ais zulm ki wajah se takke inhe koi pechan na sakee,,, lekin poori dunya mein Muslim wo wahid qoum hai jin per jitne bhi zulm ker dou aur jitna bhi kuch ker loo woh apne mazhab se piche nahi hut tai
ajj bhi Muslims per bohat zulm ho raha hai aun mein sai kuch aun ke apne kartoot ki wajah sai hai aur kuch sazishon ki wajah sai,,,,lekin phir hum bhi hum Muslims apne mazhab per compromise kerne ke liye tayar nahi hai,, aur q karein humare Nabi Akram (SAW) ne humme yeh nahi sikhaya
aur yahi aik wajah hai ke ajj poori dunya muslims ki dushman bani hoi hai q ke Zionist ais dunya mein apna nizam qaim kerna chahte hain aur ain ke raste ka sab se bara kanta Muslim aur Islam hai,,,,, woh ais dunya sai musalmano ko aur Islam ko kabhi nahi mitta sakte,,,,koshish humesha kerte hain aur aisi wajah ajj ais forum per Nepali Pandit aur dosree Indians ais site per Pakistan ka bannana galat sabit kerne per tulle howe hain,,, khair ain sai tou humme koi taklif nahi q ke yeh tou hain hi humare dushman,,,, aur ain se yahi tawaqa ki ja sakta hai,,, masla hum muslim ke sath yeh hai ke humme gaddar aur munafiqeen virasat mein milen hai,,, humare bech har dour mein Meer Jaffar aur Meer Sadiq paida hotte hain,,,, ajj ke Meer Sadiq ko app ain shaklon mein dehk sakte hoo [rehman-malik] [musharaf] [zardari] [fazl] [altaf] aur dosree siyatdaan,,, aur aese bohat se loog har jagah mujood hai jo ya tou Dana Dushman hai ya tou phir Nadan Dost,,,,,
Allah Ka nizam hai yeh ""jo jesa kerta hai wesa hi bharta hai""""......
Sikhon ne apni Dariyan aur bal mundwa liye thee ais zulm ki wajah se takke inhe koi pechan na sakee,,, lekin poori dunya mein Muslim wo wahid qoum hai jin per jitne bhi zulm ker dou aur jitna bhi kuch ker loo woh apne mazhab se piche nahi hut tai
ajj bhi Muslims per bohat zulm ho raha hai aun mein sai kuch aun ke apne kartoot ki wajah sai hai aur kuch sazishon ki wajah sai,,,,lekin phir hum bhi hum Muslims apne mazhab per compromise kerne ke liye tayar nahi hai,, aur q karein humare Nabi Akram (SAW) ne humme yeh nahi sikhaya
aur yahi aik wajah hai ke ajj poori dunya muslims ki dushman bani hoi hai q ke Zionist ais dunya mein apna nizam qaim kerna chahte hain aur ain ke raste ka sab se bara kanta Muslim aur Islam hai,,,,, woh ais dunya sai musalmano ko aur Islam ko kabhi nahi mitta sakte,,,,koshish humesha kerte hain aur aisi wajah ajj ais forum per Nepali Pandit aur dosree Indians ais site per Pakistan ka bannana galat sabit kerne per tulle howe hain,,, khair ain sai tou humme koi taklif nahi q ke yeh tou hain hi humare dushman,,,, aur ain se yahi tawaqa ki ja sakta hai,,, masla hum muslim ke sath yeh hai ke humme gaddar aur munafiqeen virasat mein milen hai,,, humare bech har dour mein Meer Jaffar aur Meer Sadiq paida hotte hain,,,, ajj ke Meer Sadiq ko app ain shaklon mein dehk sakte hoo [rehman-malik] [musharaf] [zardari] [fazl] [altaf] aur dosree siyatdaan,,, aur aese bohat se loog har jagah mujood hai jo ya tou Dana Dushman hai ya tou phir Nadan Dost,,,,,
Nepali Pandit
MPA (400+ posts)
To abdulhaseeb23
yeh Allah ka nizam hai bhaiyon yeh wahi sikh hai jinhoo ne Hindu ko kehne per aur Pakistan ke banne per migrate kerne wale 40 lakh nihate muslim ko Zinda kat dia tha aur ain ki aurton ka rape kiya thaa,,
What about 100's of thousands Hindus/ Sikhs killed during partitionof india by people shouting GOD is great?
Allah Ka nizam hai yeh ""jo jesa kerta hai wesa hi bharta hai""""
So that means God hates Muslims and loves JEWS, CHRISTIANS, BUDDHISTS and now slowly starting to live HINDUS, just look around there is no peace in most Muslim countries. Look at Pakistan and Afghanistan, I thought Pakistan was made in the name of Islam or god? Why didn't God made Pakistan more richer are peaceful than Switzerland?....
Thats only your thinking we (Hindus) don't care about Muslims or Pakistan if you just let us live in peace. You have nothing that we want. Islam for us is some distant thing about which we don't have much knowledge. Sadly we have no Islamic cultural influences (like Hollywood), we don't use much Islamic products (except Petrol). Even thought I have two masters degree form top universities i never had even a single Muslim professor. I studied in Christian missionary school for 12 years. Unlike Muslims, Christians do charity work and invest in education to promote Christianity. Even though 99% of Hindus don't convert they end up cultivating positive feeling towards Christ when they finish school.
I never visited any Pakistani forums before Mumbai attack. I got link to this site from youtube where i was trying to find what was happening in Mumbai.
Most shocking for me was every time these people killed innocent people in any country in the world they shouted god is great. For many people in the west when they think about Muslim first things that come to their mind is a bearded mullah spewing hate against them living in their own country. or some suicide bomber blowing himself up in their gods name.
So Pakistan is not our enemy nor our friend, just a next door neighbor about whom we don't care. Even though we are same people who lived together for thousands of years. In these 64 years we have become two distinct nations with completely different ideologies and vision.
By the way i used to dislike Jinnah before but after reading about India Pakistan including history a lot in last year. I am thankful that he made Pakistan, he saved Hindus by doing that we got our nation back. Now Hindus and other peaceful religions of subcontinent have chance to survive and propagate our religion peacefully.
yeh Allah ka nizam hai bhaiyon yeh wahi sikh hai jinhoo ne Hindu ko kehne per aur Pakistan ke banne per migrate kerne wale 40 lakh nihate muslim ko Zinda kat dia tha aur ain ki aurton ka rape kiya thaa,,
What about 100's of thousands Hindus/ Sikhs killed during partitionof india by people shouting GOD is great?
Allah Ka nizam hai yeh ""jo jesa kerta hai wesa hi bharta hai""""
So that means God hates Muslims and loves JEWS, CHRISTIANS, BUDDHISTS and now slowly starting to live HINDUS, just look around there is no peace in most Muslim countries. Look at Pakistan and Afghanistan, I thought Pakistan was made in the name of Islam or god? Why didn't God made Pakistan more richer are peaceful than Switzerland?....
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Thats only your thinking we (Hindus) don't care about Muslims or Pakistan if you just let us live in peace. You have nothing that we want. Islam for us is some distant thing about which we don't have much knowledge. Sadly we have no Islamic cultural influences (like Hollywood), we don't use much Islamic products (except Petrol). Even thought I have two masters degree form top universities i never had even a single Muslim professor. I studied in Christian missionary school for 12 years. Unlike Muslims, Christians do charity work and invest in education to promote Christianity. Even though 99% of Hindus don't convert they end up cultivating positive feeling towards Christ when they finish school.
I never visited any Pakistani forums before Mumbai attack. I got link to this site from youtube where i was trying to find what was happening in Mumbai.
Most shocking for me was every time these people killed innocent people in any country in the world they shouted god is great. For many people in the west when they think about Muslim first things that come to their mind is a bearded mullah spewing hate against them living in their own country. or some suicide bomber blowing himself up in their gods name.
So Pakistan is not our enemy nor our friend, just a next door neighbor about whom we don't care. Even though we are same people who lived together for thousands of years. In these 64 years we have become two distinct nations with completely different ideologies and vision.
By the way i used to dislike Jinnah before but after reading about India Pakistan including history a lot in last year. I am thankful that he made Pakistan, he saved Hindus by doing that we got our nation back. Now Hindus and other peaceful religions of subcontinent have chance to survive and propagate our religion peacefully.
taul
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Nepali Pandit said:
Thats only your thinking we (Hindus) don't care about Muslims or Pakistan if you just let us live in peace. You have nothing that we want. Islam for us is some distant thing about which we don't have much knowledge. Sadly we have no Islamic cultural influences (like Hollywood), we don't use much Islamic products (except Petrol). Even thought I have two masters degree form top universities i never had even a single Muslim professor. I studied in Christian missionary school for 12 years. Unlike Muslims, Christians do charity work and invest in education to promote Christianity. Even though 99% of Hindus don't convert they end up cultivating positive feeling towards Christ when they finish school.
I never visited any Pakistani forums before Mumbai attack. I got link to this site from youtube where i was trying to find what was happening in Mumbai.
Most shocking for me was every time these people killed innocent people in any country in the world they shouted god is great. For many people in the west when they think about Muslim first things that come to their mind is a bearded mullah spewing hate against them living in their own country. or some suicide bomber blowing himself up in their gods name.
So Pakistan is not our enemy nor our friend, just a next door neighbor about whom we don't care. Even though we are same people who lived together for thousands of years. In these 64 years we have become two distinct nations with completely different ideologies and vision.
By the way i used to dislike Jinnah before but after reading about India Pakistan including history a lot in last year. I am thankful that he made Pakistan, he saved Hindus by doing that we got our nation back. Now Hindus and other peaceful religions of subcontinent have chance to survive and propagate our religion peacefully.[/quote]
---You missed his two key points"Muslims will face hardships beacuse of their own bad deeds along with the conspiracies being strewn against muslims by enemies of Islam" :ugeek:
--You think of Pakistan and Afghanistan to be only 2 muslim countries..brush up your knowledge and look around to your neighbours, in middle-east countries where ya'll fellow indians have sorted out their livelihoods in great numbers,and other gulf states that display the same and are a source of magnet for rest of the world ...Only the meddling of enemies have destabilized these two countries whom you myopically focused.
--You keep mentioning your qualifications but yet to display them and apply em practically that i fail to see :) your further allegation of charity work doesn't seem to hold since Muslims have been very active in it and most charitable but your delusional and prejudiced mind again is blurred :)Your Animosity hinders rational approach to almost everything.
---In the west no one needs more of an evidence that after such a horrific tragedy people would Embrace Islam and thought of it to be the last thing people would ever do,but it turned out to be an entirely opposite and People started learning about it and reverted to Islam willfully in great numbers and the number has been growing ever since and the phenomenon has been catching up well through out the west ..People who unknowingly and ignorantly would try to defame/hate it do exist but once asked to read about Islam,they get to see the true picture of Islam.
--Creation of Pakistan was inevitable since hindus and Muslims are entirely different and hindus do NOT even qualify to be amongst People of book though being an enemy of Islam you'd resort to as such but reality suggests otherwise.
--You didn't shed enough light on the evolution of hinduism :? or is it still in progress?? :shock: in the other post..
Typhoon
Senator (1k+ posts)
Allahs divine laws of evolution is aways in progress. These divine permanent values applies on each individual living on this earth and every nation on this planet.
Anyone, be it a believer or non-believer, their actions give result according to these parameters set by Allah Almighty.
According to the final divine code of life, the holy Quran, no-one is Allahs favourite or chosen nation or people, like the jews believe. The Quran rejects such approach.
Be it muslim or non-muslim he has to face the result of his actions. The law of requital is most just.
The nation, the people or rindividuals who keep themselves on the right path, Sirat-e-mustaqim are only who can say tobe closer to Allah, since they have by there free will chosen to follow the permanent values defined by the frinal revelation Al-Quran. And for being on the sirat-e-mustaqim and act by the permaent values one has to read and undestand the Quran and then believe on Quranic ideology, and a such person is called a muslim.
Non-muslims like Nepali-pandit cannot understand this because they are indoctrinated in their religions which has totally an unscientific and unlogical approach. Their religion bases on cast, creed, salvation and only religious ceremonies. Therefore they see Islam also with their own religious googles. They forget that Islam is not a religion but a "Deen", A complete code of life, on individual plan and on national and universal plan.
Yes, we muslims are facing tough times, but it`s not a warth of God, but our own failures and concpiracies of our enemies. We lost Andalucia (Muslim Spain), because of such problems, the abbasids rather helped the enemies against Umayyads. The Ottoman Caliphate were broken because of lawrence of Arabia made some traitors within arabs like Sharif Hussain to start a mutiny against the caliphate based on arab nationalism.
What happened to us were according to the laws of Allah, but the thing is that we admit that and since we believe on the unchangeable laws of Allah, we therefore are capable to learn from our failures.
We know forexample why capitalism, communism, dynasties, democracy, theocracy etc. have not enough potential to give mankind that right place in this universal system. The only solution for the mankind is in the Quran.
Anyone, be it a believer or non-believer, their actions give result according to these parameters set by Allah Almighty.
According to the final divine code of life, the holy Quran, no-one is Allahs favourite or chosen nation or people, like the jews believe. The Quran rejects such approach.
Be it muslim or non-muslim he has to face the result of his actions. The law of requital is most just.
The nation, the people or rindividuals who keep themselves on the right path, Sirat-e-mustaqim are only who can say tobe closer to Allah, since they have by there free will chosen to follow the permanent values defined by the frinal revelation Al-Quran. And for being on the sirat-e-mustaqim and act by the permaent values one has to read and undestand the Quran and then believe on Quranic ideology, and a such person is called a muslim.
Non-muslims like Nepali-pandit cannot understand this because they are indoctrinated in their religions which has totally an unscientific and unlogical approach. Their religion bases on cast, creed, salvation and only religious ceremonies. Therefore they see Islam also with their own religious googles. They forget that Islam is not a religion but a "Deen", A complete code of life, on individual plan and on national and universal plan.
Yes, we muslims are facing tough times, but it`s not a warth of God, but our own failures and concpiracies of our enemies. We lost Andalucia (Muslim Spain), because of such problems, the abbasids rather helped the enemies against Umayyads. The Ottoman Caliphate were broken because of lawrence of Arabia made some traitors within arabs like Sharif Hussain to start a mutiny against the caliphate based on arab nationalism.
What happened to us were according to the laws of Allah, but the thing is that we admit that and since we believe on the unchangeable laws of Allah, we therefore are capable to learn from our failures.
We know forexample why capitalism, communism, dynasties, democracy, theocracy etc. have not enough potential to give mankind that right place in this universal system. The only solution for the mankind is in the Quran.
PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI
Minister (2k+ posts)
This is why i hate "HINDUS"...
Nepali Pandit
MPA (400+ posts)
PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI said:
this is so typical of you. people like You hate everybody including Muslims such as Shia , ahmedi etc. I for exaple do not hate any ethnic groups. One person could be good or bad but not 1 billion people.[dailymotion:19u6ppxq][/dailymotion:19u6ppxq]
taul
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Nepali Pandit said:
---You are further drifting by having all sorts of illusions and then trying unsuccessfully to make it real :roll: ..FYI "Ahmedis and Qadiyanis" are NOT muslims.. :ugeek: ..Atleast have some,just some facts clear in your trivial head :ugeek: ..We do NOT hate anyone but try our best to spread the True message to all Non-muslims including Qadiyanis :)
--I would assume and perhaps even believe by your explaination that manusmirti is considered holy along with being an integral part of hinduism :|
Nepali Pandit
MPA (400+ posts)
taul said:
taul
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Nepali Pandit said:
--Not all Shia's are Non-Muslims.There are different sects among them too,the reason why Qadiyanis are declared as "Non-muslims" is because of their highly blasphemous innovations and completely upside down and twisted beliefs.
---Quite strange :o :shock: ,you being a hindu do NOT even know of your holy books apart from veda's coz manusmirti is considered holy by many hindus and as per their beliefs dalits deserve to be what they are and the way they are treated :cry:.or is it that you can play around with em ( your books) editing whenever need be :? :roll:
ConcernedPakistani
MPA (400+ posts)
Since Mr. Nepali Pandat is so fond of quoting Gandhi, Here are some of his quotes about the Untouchables,
Gandhi Quotes:
If the Shudras (low castes) leave their ancestral profession and take up others, ambition will rouse in them and their peace of mind will be spoiled. Even their family peace will be disturbed. (Hind Swaraj).
I believe in Varnashrama (caste system) which is the law of life.
The law of Varna (color and/or caste) is
nothing but the law of conservation of energy. Why should my son not be scavenger if I am one? (Harijan,3-6-1947).
He (Shudra, low caste) may not be called a Brahmin (uppermost caste), though he (Shudra) may have all
the qualities of a Brahmin in this birth. And it is a good thing for him (Shudra) not to arrogate a Varna (caste) to which he is not born. It is a sign of true humility. (Young India, 11-24-1927).
According to Hindu belief, he who practices a profession which does not belong to him by birth, does violence to himself and becomes a degraded being by not living up to the Varna (caste) of his birth. (Young India, 11-14-1927).
As years go by, the conviction is daily growing upon me that Varna (caste) is the law of mans being, and
therefore, caste is necessary for Christians and Muslims as it has been necessary for Hinduism, and has been its saving grace. (Speech at Trivandrum, (Collection of Speeches), Ramanath Suman (1932)).
I would resist with my life the separation of Untouchables from the caste Hindus. The problems of the Untouchable community are of comparatively little importance. (London Round Table Conference 1931)
I call myself a Snatana man, one who firmly believes in the caste system. (Dharma Manthan, p 4).
I believe in caste division determined by birth and the very root of caste division lies in birth. (Varna
Vyavastha, p 76-77).
The four castes and the four stages of life are things to be attained by birth alone. (Dharma Manthan, p 5).
Caste means the predetermination of a mans profession. Caste implies that a man must practice only the profession of his ancestors for his livelihood. (Varna Vyavstha, p 28, 56, 68).
Shudra only serves the higher castes as a matter of religious duty and who will never own any property. The gods will shower down flowers on him. (Varna Vyavastha, p 15).
I have noticed that the very basis of our thought have been severely shaken by Western civilization which is the creation of the Satan. (Dharma Manthan, p 65).
How is it possible that the Antyaja (outcastes) should have the right to enter all the existing temples? As long as the law of caste and karma has the chief place in the Hindu religion, to say that every Hindu can enter every temple is a thing that is not possible today. (Gandhi Sikshan, Vol. 11, p 132).
There are I am sorry to say, many Hindu temples in our midst in this country, which are no better than
brothels. The caste system cant be said to be bad because it does not allow inter-dining and inter-marriages in different castes. (Gandhi by Shiru, p129).
The caste system, in my opinion, has a scientific basis. Reason does not revolt against it. It has
disadvantages. Caste creates a social and moral restraint - I can find no reason for their abolition.
To abolish caste is to demolish Hinduism. There is nothing to fight against the Varnasharma (caste system). I dont believe the caste system to be an odious and vicious dogma. It has its limitations and defects, but there is nothing sinful about it. (Harijan, 1933).
Nations are tired of the worship of lifeless machines multiplied ad infinitum. We are destroying the matchless living machines viz., our own bodies by leaving them to rust and trying to substitute lifeless machinery for them. It is a law of God that the body must be fully worked and utilised. We dare not ignore it. The spinning wheel is the auspicious symbol of Sharir Yajna body labour. He who eats his food without offering this sacrifice steals it. By giving up this sacrifice we became traitors to the country, and banged the door in the
face of the Goddess of Fortune. (Gandhis presidential address at the Kathiawad Political Conference held on 8th January 1925).
The booklet is a severe condemnation of modern civilisation. It was written in 1908. My conviction is deeper today than ever. I feel that, if India would discard Modern civilisation she can only gain by doing so. (Mr. Gandhis booklet on Hind Swaraj (Indian Home Rule), 1921)
Gandhis quotes from his own mouth.
collected and compiled by Vivek Nirala.
Gandhi Quotes:
If the Shudras (low castes) leave their ancestral profession and take up others, ambition will rouse in them and their peace of mind will be spoiled. Even their family peace will be disturbed. (Hind Swaraj).
I believe in Varnashrama (caste system) which is the law of life.
The law of Varna (color and/or caste) is
nothing but the law of conservation of energy. Why should my son not be scavenger if I am one? (Harijan,3-6-1947).
He (Shudra, low caste) may not be called a Brahmin (uppermost caste), though he (Shudra) may have all
the qualities of a Brahmin in this birth. And it is a good thing for him (Shudra) not to arrogate a Varna (caste) to which he is not born. It is a sign of true humility. (Young India, 11-24-1927).
According to Hindu belief, he who practices a profession which does not belong to him by birth, does violence to himself and becomes a degraded being by not living up to the Varna (caste) of his birth. (Young India, 11-14-1927).
As years go by, the conviction is daily growing upon me that Varna (caste) is the law of mans being, and
therefore, caste is necessary for Christians and Muslims as it has been necessary for Hinduism, and has been its saving grace. (Speech at Trivandrum, (Collection of Speeches), Ramanath Suman (1932)).
I would resist with my life the separation of Untouchables from the caste Hindus. The problems of the Untouchable community are of comparatively little importance. (London Round Table Conference 1931)
I call myself a Snatana man, one who firmly believes in the caste system. (Dharma Manthan, p 4).
I believe in caste division determined by birth and the very root of caste division lies in birth. (Varna
Vyavastha, p 76-77).
The four castes and the four stages of life are things to be attained by birth alone. (Dharma Manthan, p 5).
Caste means the predetermination of a mans profession. Caste implies that a man must practice only the profession of his ancestors for his livelihood. (Varna Vyavstha, p 28, 56, 68).
Shudra only serves the higher castes as a matter of religious duty and who will never own any property. The gods will shower down flowers on him. (Varna Vyavastha, p 15).
I have noticed that the very basis of our thought have been severely shaken by Western civilization which is the creation of the Satan. (Dharma Manthan, p 65).
How is it possible that the Antyaja (outcastes) should have the right to enter all the existing temples? As long as the law of caste and karma has the chief place in the Hindu religion, to say that every Hindu can enter every temple is a thing that is not possible today. (Gandhi Sikshan, Vol. 11, p 132).
There are I am sorry to say, many Hindu temples in our midst in this country, which are no better than
brothels. The caste system cant be said to be bad because it does not allow inter-dining and inter-marriages in different castes. (Gandhi by Shiru, p129).
The caste system, in my opinion, has a scientific basis. Reason does not revolt against it. It has
disadvantages. Caste creates a social and moral restraint - I can find no reason for their abolition.
To abolish caste is to demolish Hinduism. There is nothing to fight against the Varnasharma (caste system). I dont believe the caste system to be an odious and vicious dogma. It has its limitations and defects, but there is nothing sinful about it. (Harijan, 1933).
Nations are tired of the worship of lifeless machines multiplied ad infinitum. We are destroying the matchless living machines viz., our own bodies by leaving them to rust and trying to substitute lifeless machinery for them. It is a law of God that the body must be fully worked and utilised. We dare not ignore it. The spinning wheel is the auspicious symbol of Sharir Yajna body labour. He who eats his food without offering this sacrifice steals it. By giving up this sacrifice we became traitors to the country, and banged the door in the
face of the Goddess of Fortune. (Gandhis presidential address at the Kathiawad Political Conference held on 8th January 1925).
The booklet is a severe condemnation of modern civilisation. It was written in 1908. My conviction is deeper today than ever. I feel that, if India would discard Modern civilisation she can only gain by doing so. (Mr. Gandhis booklet on Hind Swaraj (Indian Home Rule), 1921)
Gandhis quotes from his own mouth.
collected and compiled by Vivek Nirala.
ConcernedPakistani
MPA (400+ posts)
Quotes of Hindu Ruling Elite about Sikhs
Lies told to the Sikh's before the Partition of the subcontinent in 1947:
"...in the future, the Congress shall accept no constitution which does not meet with the satisfaction of the Sikhs" (The Lahore session of the Congress Party. December 31, 1929)
"...the brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special considerations. I see nothing wrong in an area set up in the North of India wherein, the Sikhs can also experience the glow of freedom." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, Lahore Bulletin, January 9, 1930)
"I ask you to accept my word and the Resolution of the Congress that it will not betray a single individual much less a community. Let God be the witness of the bond that binds me and the Congress with you (the Sikhs). When pressed further Gandhi said that Sikhs would be justified in drawing their swords out of the scabbards as Guru Gobind Singh had asked them to, if Congress would renege on its commitment." (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Young India, March 19, 1931)
Voices trying to warn the Sikhs against siding with the Hindus:
"You have seen the Hindus as co-slaves and you will know when they will be your masters and you (the Sikhs), their slaves"
(Mohammed Ali Jinnah, Quaid-e-Azam, The Founding Father of Pakistan, warning the Sikh Nation not to cast their lot with the treacherous Hindus during partition of the subcontinent in 1947)
"...Master Tara Singh saw me on his return from Delhi, and seemed really concerned at the approaching departure of the British. He demanded Khalistan, with transfer of population, or a new state from Jumna to Chenab, in which the Sikhs would not be oppressed" (Sir E. Jenkins, Governor of the Punjab, 15th April, 1946)
"...the individual known to common Indian masses as chacha (uncle) Nehru, the so-called messiah of peace and secularism, was, in fact, the main architect of anti-Sikh policies and practices, in India and abroad" (Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer)
"It (Hinduism) is like the boa constrictor of the Indian forests. When a petty enemy appears to worry it, it winds round its opponent, crushes it in its folds, and finally causes it to disappear in its capaciousinterior....Hinduism has embraced Sikhism in its folds; the still comparatively young religion is making a vigorous struggle for life, but its ultimate destruction is, it is apprehended, inevitable without State support." (Max Arthur Macauliffe, 1903)
"Hinduism has always been hostile to Sikhism whose Gurus powerfully and successfully attacked the principle of caste which is the foundation on which the whole fabric of Brahminism has been reared. The activities of Hindus have, therefore, been constantly directed to undermining of Sikhism both by preventing the children of Sikh father from taking Pahul and reducing professed Sikhs from their allegiance to their faith. Hinduism has strangled Budhism, once a formidable rival to it and it has already made serious inroads into the domain of Sikhism." (D. Petrie, Assistant Director, Criminal Intelligence, Government of British India, Intelligence Report of 11th August, 1911)
The real face of Hindus regarding the Sikh Nation:
" To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-kror [ 20 millions ] Sikhs, we will do so. (Balram Jhakhar, a colleague of P.V. Narsimharao, the former Indian Prime Minister)
" The Sikhs are a lawless people and a menace to the law abiding Hindus ... The [Government] should take strict measures against them." (Pandit Nehru, Indian Prime Minister, on Sikhs)
"Kya main taqat dushman (the enemy : the Sikhs) ke haath main de dun (How can I entrust power into the hands of the enemies)." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, 1961)
"I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard."
(Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician)
"I don't give a damn if the Golden Temple and whole of Amritsar are destroyed, I want Bhindranwale dead." (Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, communicating with Gen. Vaidya during "Operation Blue Star")
"We have broken the back of the Sikhs and we will get them elsewhere."
(M. M. K. Wali, Indian Foreign Secretary, June 7, 1984, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio 740, As It Happens)
"Let us teach these bastards (the Sikhs) a lesson." (Rajiv Gandhi, October 31, 1984)
"... a threat to the villagers that all males would be killed and their women taken to army camps to breed a new race if there was any militant activity in their village." (Brig. R. P. Sinha, Indian Army, March 8, 1991)
"You do not know the might of our armed forces. We will eliminate 10,000 Sikh youths and the world will know nothing about it." (Chander Shekhar, former Prime Minister of India, CK, 21st October, 1991)
Lies told to the Sikh's before the Partition of the subcontinent in 1947:
"...in the future, the Congress shall accept no constitution which does not meet with the satisfaction of the Sikhs" (The Lahore session of the Congress Party. December 31, 1929)
"...the brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special considerations. I see nothing wrong in an area set up in the North of India wherein, the Sikhs can also experience the glow of freedom." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, Lahore Bulletin, January 9, 1930)
"I ask you to accept my word and the Resolution of the Congress that it will not betray a single individual much less a community. Let God be the witness of the bond that binds me and the Congress with you (the Sikhs). When pressed further Gandhi said that Sikhs would be justified in drawing their swords out of the scabbards as Guru Gobind Singh had asked them to, if Congress would renege on its commitment." (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Young India, March 19, 1931)
Voices trying to warn the Sikhs against siding with the Hindus:
"You have seen the Hindus as co-slaves and you will know when they will be your masters and you (the Sikhs), their slaves"
(Mohammed Ali Jinnah, Quaid-e-Azam, The Founding Father of Pakistan, warning the Sikh Nation not to cast their lot with the treacherous Hindus during partition of the subcontinent in 1947)
"...Master Tara Singh saw me on his return from Delhi, and seemed really concerned at the approaching departure of the British. He demanded Khalistan, with transfer of population, or a new state from Jumna to Chenab, in which the Sikhs would not be oppressed" (Sir E. Jenkins, Governor of the Punjab, 15th April, 1946)
"...the individual known to common Indian masses as chacha (uncle) Nehru, the so-called messiah of peace and secularism, was, in fact, the main architect of anti-Sikh policies and practices, in India and abroad" (Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer)
"It (Hinduism) is like the boa constrictor of the Indian forests. When a petty enemy appears to worry it, it winds round its opponent, crushes it in its folds, and finally causes it to disappear in its capaciousinterior....Hinduism has embraced Sikhism in its folds; the still comparatively young religion is making a vigorous struggle for life, but its ultimate destruction is, it is apprehended, inevitable without State support." (Max Arthur Macauliffe, 1903)
"Hinduism has always been hostile to Sikhism whose Gurus powerfully and successfully attacked the principle of caste which is the foundation on which the whole fabric of Brahminism has been reared. The activities of Hindus have, therefore, been constantly directed to undermining of Sikhism both by preventing the children of Sikh father from taking Pahul and reducing professed Sikhs from their allegiance to their faith. Hinduism has strangled Budhism, once a formidable rival to it and it has already made serious inroads into the domain of Sikhism." (D. Petrie, Assistant Director, Criminal Intelligence, Government of British India, Intelligence Report of 11th August, 1911)
The real face of Hindus regarding the Sikh Nation:
" To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 2-kror [ 20 millions ] Sikhs, we will do so. (Balram Jhakhar, a colleague of P.V. Narsimharao, the former Indian Prime Minister)
" The Sikhs are a lawless people and a menace to the law abiding Hindus ... The [Government] should take strict measures against them." (Pandit Nehru, Indian Prime Minister, on Sikhs)
"Kya main taqat dushman (the enemy : the Sikhs) ke haath main de dun (How can I entrust power into the hands of the enemies)." (Jawahar Lal Nehru, 1961)
"I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard."
(Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician)
"I don't give a damn if the Golden Temple and whole of Amritsar are destroyed, I want Bhindranwale dead." (Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, communicating with Gen. Vaidya during "Operation Blue Star")
"We have broken the back of the Sikhs and we will get them elsewhere."
(M. M. K. Wali, Indian Foreign Secretary, June 7, 1984, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio 740, As It Happens)
"Let us teach these bastards (the Sikhs) a lesson." (Rajiv Gandhi, October 31, 1984)
"... a threat to the villagers that all males would be killed and their women taken to army camps to breed a new race if there was any militant activity in their village." (Brig. R. P. Sinha, Indian Army, March 8, 1991)
"You do not know the might of our armed forces. We will eliminate 10,000 Sikh youths and the world will know nothing about it." (Chander Shekhar, former Prime Minister of India, CK, 21st October, 1991)
PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI
Minister (2k+ posts)
Nepali Pandit said:
this is so typical of you. people like You hate everybody including Muslims such as Shia , ahmedi etc. I for exaple do not hate any ethnic groups. One person could be good or bad but not 1 billion people.[dailymotion:lysvicv8][/dailymotion:lysvicv8][/quote:lysvicv8]
watch this video again, about 20000 sikhs very killed on the streets, another independent souce says this figure as 35000.. One Hindu can not kill 35000 , there must be hundreds of thousands who killed them.... "Ahmadi's and qadiyani's are not muslims their base is completely different. Our constitution declares them non-muslims... But Shia's are a sect in Muslims as any other, we are not body to say them non-muslims.. coz they have same beleifs as we do, bt some fiqa diff"...
And by the way.. what ever your thinkings are doesnt represents... typical hindus thinking , you might be literate & moderate person... whateva happened in Gujraat, wateva happened with cirstians churches or with golden temple or with babari mosqe.... whom are you going to defend.. those were done but hundreds of thousand of hundus.................. nywyz as per request by the admin i dun wana go too ahead in religious discussion..
ConcernedPakistani
MPA (400+ posts)
Hindu ruling elite are not 1 billion
majority of India's population is oppressed
What happens to Christians in India?
What happens to Sikhs in India?
What happens to Dalits in India?
What happens to Shudras in India?
What happens to Muslims in India?
What happens to Maoists in India?
majority of India's population is oppressed
What happens to Christians in India?
What happens to Sikhs in India?
What happens to Dalits in India?
What happens to Shudras in India?
What happens to Muslims in India?
What happens to Maoists in India?
