India summons Iranian ambassador, demands 'unconditional' release of oil tanker
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Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It was your media saying how certain Pak cities will be captured within a time period. Remember those "ten steps" you were supposed to take after the 26/11 false flag??:lol::lol:.
Dhiraj Kumar
Banned
They were not false flag.
You are too naive to understand. USA govt had found an ISI colonel involvement in chicago tribunal.
Follow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Headley
1 Person comments cant be taken seriously. By the way there is a tug of war between agencies in India. You wont understand vote bank politics. You have to spend many hours to understand what is truth behind 26/11.
Lastly remember that, if any govt does false flag ; opposition wont leave any chance to topple.
There is no truth in 1 person's prejudiced statement, which you are taking as the justification.
if there were no involvement of jud, hafeez saeed then Zaki-ur-Rahman Lakhvi wont be languishing in jails of pakistan. Now you will say, Dawood is not living in karachi!!
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modern.fakir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yeah so whats different in this statement I've been saying all along that it was carrying oil ...you were the one being ardous about their being no oil in the tanker
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modern.fakir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You can take this whine and cry somewhere else :lol::lol:...You've been exposed one too many times with your false flags. Hafiz Saeed is not in any jail and any other Pakistani criminal is their because of local charges not any other reason.
Dawood is an INdian citizen so should know where he is NOT US (bigsmile)...Rest off your Deputy Minister who was also the investigating chief of the mumbai attacks has admitted that mumbai and parliament attacks were "staged", so now their is NO denying this. Rest off you can cry as much as you like BuT nothing is going to change !!
RAW left with egg on its face as terror plot unravels
Men intelligence service said were terrorists who infiltrated India turn out to be Lahore businessmen
The Research and Analysis Wing, India's external intelligence service, is facing allegations of incompetence after three Lashkar-e-Taiba operatives who, it claimed, were about to conduct a suicide-squad operation in western India turned out to be living at their homes in Lahore — and to be businessmen, not terrorists.
The Mumbai police issued warnings earlier this week after receiving information on what they said was an imminent plot to target two of India's largest oil refineries: Reliance Industries' plant at Jamnagar in Gujarat and Mittal Energy's unit at Bhatinda, Punjab.
Five Pakistani Lashkar-e-Taiba operatives, the police alleged in briefings for the media on Wednesday, had infiltrated India to execute the operation.
Though periodic warnings have been issued on the threats to the plant — the last by the Intelligence Bureau in May — this warning was unusually specific, and accompanied by photographs of the Lashkar team.
Late on Wednesday evening though, a Pakistani television show host revealed that the men were living in Lahore: two running shops at the Hafeez shopping complex in Lahore's Gulberg district, and the third a guard employed on the premises.
The revelations led shopkeepers in Lahore to stage demonstrations in support of the two men, while the Jamaat-ud-Dawa said this showed that India falsified information on Pakistani involvement in terrorist strikes, including 26/11. Both men also moved the Lahore High Court on Thursday, seeking protection against any possible action by India, and have told The Hindu that they intended to petition the Indian High Commission in Islamabad to be formally exonerated.
No official explanation has been offered by New Delhi for the apparent debacle. A fresh alert was issued in Pune after local intelligence officials warned that the suicide squad could strike the city. The RAW officer with supervisory responsibility for issuing the alerts did not respond to a query from The Hindu.
Elusive answers
The testimony from the two men who spoke to The Hindu from Lahore threw up as many questions as it answered. Late on Wednesday, shopkeeper Mahtab Butt said he had on a whim used Google to search for the word ‘India.' The search led him to an India Today group site. There, he discovered a photo of himself, fellow storeowner Atif Butt and night guard Muhammad Babar, illustrating a story on the alleged Mumbai terror plot.
Mr. Butt said he immediately called Pakistani television show host Mubashir Lucman — a controversial figure known for his dogged support of the religious right — with the news.
Three separate Google searches conducted by The Hindu did not lead to results with India Today on the first page, raising questions about this account —though, in all fairness, results using the site often vary by region.
Later that evening though, both Mr. Butt and Mr. Atif Butt provided The Hindu with a quite different version of events. The two men said they had learned of the report from a common friend, whom they identified as Khubaab.
Neither man could explain where the photographs of them — clearly personal in nature, rather than the kinds typically used in passport or driving-licence applications — were taken. Nor did they have any explanation for what led them, or their friend, to search for information on India late in the evening.
Duped by ISI?
Highly placed intelligence sources in New Delhi said the photographs had been obtained from an individual they described as a “trans-border source — a euphemism for smugglers who often conduct espionage in return for some degree of impunity from law-enforcement agencies.
The sources noted that the first photographs of the suspects had been released on the Internet at 8.21 p.m., while Mr. Lucman revealed their true identities less than an hour later — fuelling suspicion that the photographs might have been planted by Pakistan's own intelligence services to discredit the RAW.
The New Delhi-based intelligence officials said the affair pointed to underlying problems in India's post-26/11 intelligence reforms — key among them, pressure to circulate information before it could be thoroughly corroborated. The intelligence was passed on to the Mumbai police through the Intelligence Bureau-run Multi-Agency Centre — the core of the proposed National Counter-Terrorism Centre — but its credibility does not appear to have been questioned by other agencies.
The intelligence debacle, the RAW's worst fiasco in years, is the latest in a series of embarrassing intelligence failures, among them the listing of individuals held in Indian prisons in a government dossier on the alleged fugitives in Pakistan.
Though there was no corroboration of the threat from other agencies or communications intelligence, the Mumbai Police decided to make the information public. “The consensus,” an officer present at the meetings told The Hindu, “was that it was best to get the information we had out there, in the hope of at least embarrassing the ISI into calling off the operation. No one wanted to be accused of withholding information, in case something happened.”
“I guess it was a bad call,” he said.
Dawood is an INdian citizen so should know where he is NOT US (bigsmile)...Rest off your Deputy Minister who was also the investigating chief of the mumbai attacks has admitted that mumbai and parliament attacks were "staged", so now their is NO denying this. Rest off you can cry as much as you like BuT nothing is going to change !!
RAW left with egg on its face as terror plot unravels
- PRAVEEN SWAMI
- MOHAMMAD ALI
Men intelligence service said were terrorists who infiltrated India turn out to be Lahore businessmen
The Research and Analysis Wing, India's external intelligence service, is facing allegations of incompetence after three Lashkar-e-Taiba operatives who, it claimed, were about to conduct a suicide-squad operation in western India turned out to be living at their homes in Lahore — and to be businessmen, not terrorists.
The Mumbai police issued warnings earlier this week after receiving information on what they said was an imminent plot to target two of India's largest oil refineries: Reliance Industries' plant at Jamnagar in Gujarat and Mittal Energy's unit at Bhatinda, Punjab.
Five Pakistani Lashkar-e-Taiba operatives, the police alleged in briefings for the media on Wednesday, had infiltrated India to execute the operation.
Though periodic warnings have been issued on the threats to the plant — the last by the Intelligence Bureau in May — this warning was unusually specific, and accompanied by photographs of the Lashkar team.
Late on Wednesday evening though, a Pakistani television show host revealed that the men were living in Lahore: two running shops at the Hafeez shopping complex in Lahore's Gulberg district, and the third a guard employed on the premises.
The revelations led shopkeepers in Lahore to stage demonstrations in support of the two men, while the Jamaat-ud-Dawa said this showed that India falsified information on Pakistani involvement in terrorist strikes, including 26/11. Both men also moved the Lahore High Court on Thursday, seeking protection against any possible action by India, and have told The Hindu that they intended to petition the Indian High Commission in Islamabad to be formally exonerated.
No official explanation has been offered by New Delhi for the apparent debacle. A fresh alert was issued in Pune after local intelligence officials warned that the suicide squad could strike the city. The RAW officer with supervisory responsibility for issuing the alerts did not respond to a query from The Hindu.
Elusive answers
The testimony from the two men who spoke to The Hindu from Lahore threw up as many questions as it answered. Late on Wednesday, shopkeeper Mahtab Butt said he had on a whim used Google to search for the word ‘India.' The search led him to an India Today group site. There, he discovered a photo of himself, fellow storeowner Atif Butt and night guard Muhammad Babar, illustrating a story on the alleged Mumbai terror plot.
Mr. Butt said he immediately called Pakistani television show host Mubashir Lucman — a controversial figure known for his dogged support of the religious right — with the news.
Three separate Google searches conducted by The Hindu did not lead to results with India Today on the first page, raising questions about this account —though, in all fairness, results using the site often vary by region.
Later that evening though, both Mr. Butt and Mr. Atif Butt provided The Hindu with a quite different version of events. The two men said they had learned of the report from a common friend, whom they identified as Khubaab.
Neither man could explain where the photographs of them — clearly personal in nature, rather than the kinds typically used in passport or driving-licence applications — were taken. Nor did they have any explanation for what led them, or their friend, to search for information on India late in the evening.
Duped by ISI?
Highly placed intelligence sources in New Delhi said the photographs had been obtained from an individual they described as a “trans-border source — a euphemism for smugglers who often conduct espionage in return for some degree of impunity from law-enforcement agencies.
The sources noted that the first photographs of the suspects had been released on the Internet at 8.21 p.m., while Mr. Lucman revealed their true identities less than an hour later — fuelling suspicion that the photographs might have been planted by Pakistan's own intelligence services to discredit the RAW.
The New Delhi-based intelligence officials said the affair pointed to underlying problems in India's post-26/11 intelligence reforms — key among them, pressure to circulate information before it could be thoroughly corroborated. The intelligence was passed on to the Mumbai police through the Intelligence Bureau-run Multi-Agency Centre — the core of the proposed National Counter-Terrorism Centre — but its credibility does not appear to have been questioned by other agencies.
The intelligence debacle, the RAW's worst fiasco in years, is the latest in a series of embarrassing intelligence failures, among them the listing of individuals held in Indian prisons in a government dossier on the alleged fugitives in Pakistan.
Though there was no corroboration of the threat from other agencies or communications intelligence, the Mumbai Police decided to make the information public. “The consensus,” an officer present at the meetings told The Hindu, “was that it was best to get the information we had out there, in the hope of at least embarrassing the ISI into calling off the operation. No one wanted to be accused of withholding information, in case something happened.”
“I guess it was a bad call,” he said.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Rather you are to biased to see that Bharat is not the angel you think it is! As if the USA government has never lied before about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction or burying Osama at sea never showing his body to anyone, this very bogey who has been killed many times prior to that. I know far more about the truth and the current world situation then then you ever will in the light of Islamic prophecy and current political scenario. You are not half as smart as you think you are. Being imprisoned does not mean the person was guilty of attacking Bharat....Sanjay Dutt must also be there due to attacking his own country then.
Fact is saffron/Hindu terrorism is much responsible for the chaos in Bharat. With IOK on fire it's natural for Bharat to blame everything on Pakistan...we are not giving you Hafiz who has been found innocent in our courts moreover what have you done about the Samjhauta Express carnage and why don't you tell the world who killed Hemant Karkare?? We insist that Bharat is trying to destabilise Pak through sponsoring terrorists in Balochistan through Afghanistan and have plenty of evidence as well. If you don't listen to us then we won't do so either.
My source of information are independent sites like http://rense.com/ , http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/ , http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ , http://www.frequencyclear.tv/ , http://www.againstbombing.org/ and http://whatreallyhappened.com/ that you will call conspiracy theories as they don't fit your agenda. Yours are Zee TV, NDTV FOX news, CNN and BBC because you get to see people talking on TV so they must be righteous!!! Wikipedia tells an equal number of lies as any mainstream channel. You don't have a clue of what you are talking about!
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Dhiraj Kumar
Banned
Name the person, tell his credential, Show the source and show the context.
Show what his position is ? Show why and when he said it.
Read this full article. Ishrat jehan encounter is being used as vote bank politics by congress. So confusion helps them increase their votes amongst muslims.
Moreover the article just cites his name. There is no concrete evidence. If he accepts ,all these were orchestrated, why dont he come in media and disclose.
Is the opposition in India so weak? Will they pardon govt for such conspiracy!!
To me, the article is out of context and the only motivation is to gain votes from Ishrat jehan encounter!!
http://tribune.com.pk/story/577017/startling-revelations-mumbai-parliament-attacks-orchestrated/
Show what his position is ? Show why and when he said it.
Read this full article. Ishrat jehan encounter is being used as vote bank politics by congress. So confusion helps them increase their votes amongst muslims.
Moreover the article just cites his name. There is no concrete evidence. If he accepts ,all these were orchestrated, why dont he come in media and disclose.
Is the opposition in India so weak? Will they pardon govt for such conspiracy!!
To me, the article is out of context and the only motivation is to gain votes from Ishrat jehan encounter!!
http://tribune.com.pk/story/577017/startling-revelations-mumbai-parliament-attacks-orchestrated/
Dhiraj Kumar
Banned
On February 12, 2009 Rehman Malik, adviser to the prime minister on the interior, stated that Lakhvi was still in custody and under investigation as the foremost mastermind behind the attacks.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP]
On 25 November 2009, a Pakistani anti-terrorism court formally charged seven suspects, including LeT commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, with planning and helping execute the Mumbai attacks, an action that came a day before the first anniversary of the brazen assault.[SUP][14]
[/SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaki_ur_Rehman_Lakhvi
Well its immaterial that wikipedia is not 100% correct as long as the articles are cited by famous pakistani and other western newspapers.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How do you know the articles were written by famous Pakistanis as if you saw them!!! Even if your own country charges you it can be under false pretentions or political pressure, has that ever occurred to you?? Anyway if you don't punish anti-Pakistani forces in your country then we ain't gonna do nothing to your enemies either.
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Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I couldn't care less about your internal politics. Unlike you I am wise enough to realise that Pak does misreport to satisfy it's own agenda, it contradicts itself which is why I don't listen to mainstream media. You on the other hand depend on mainstream media Bharati channels thinking they know it all. Ishrat was probably innocent moreover they men with her at the time were not Pakistanis whatsoever! She was indeed a victim of most likely the BJP.
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Dhiraj Kumar
Banned
Citation 12,13 ko dekho.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Kuch dekhnay ki zaroorat nehin. First tell the world who killed Hemant Karkare and do justice to Samjhauta Express victim families that are equally important issues. Hafiz Saeed ko bhool jayo, who kehin nehin jaayenge even if he is guilty Pak will punish him unless you hand us the people responsible for the Samjhauta Express carnage.
Dhiraj Kumar
Banned
Samjhauta express blast occurred in India. The perpetrators are in the jail! Unlike pakistan there is some law & order in india.
