In Session - 19th February 2012 - Gen Hameed Gul & Hassan Nisar - Is Pakistan's Defence solution of

[mrcritic]

Hassan Nisar is a pessimist, BUT he does speak the harsh truth at times that no one wants to accept. Also, the DPC as per Gen Sahab is a pressure group which he has created in collaboration. My understanding is that DPC is to pressure our "LEADERSHIP both civilian and top brass " on never opening NATO supply line.

 

[Queue Farms]

Did I blame west ? I am not blaming I am just saying that stop picturing them like gods. Ethics of people is as a whole corrupt and tilted towards bad these days. Secondly if west is making innovation they are not giving it for the love to humanity but for ROI.

Every year tons of food is wasted with deliberateness to stabalize the food prices. Wars are waged and conflict are not being resolved so that people can sell arms. So stop praising people of west blindly.

That was my point.

Ive been in USA for last one year. By the way yes most of the west is monotheist. The things you watch on movies or media about their culture is far from reality.
They work hard they respect each other and they have humanity of islamic principles.
The corporate world just like in Pakistan is corrupt. The sugar mills in Pakistan are selling toxic sugar. Go and check chemical reports of them.
Let us stop blaming west for our failures. We have to put our heads in books and logics to see what hasan nisar is saying. Just for a reference there is a book by Allama Iqbal. The reconstruction of religious thoughts in Islam. His lectures on modern world and what Muslim generation should do about that.
Lets us stop judging people and listen to what they are saying.

Regards.

We have our ADVANCED VERSIONS OF HASSAN NISAR. They are called RON PAUL!!

Sadly, the public doesnt get it.

So you see, the problem is the stupidity of the masses. Everyone votes for a living. No old person will vote for Ron Paul because they may "loose their social security benefits".

 

[Seemab Alvi]

I have also noticed and now i believe that Hassan Nisar spread hatred, hopless, and portray entire Islamic History as nothing but killings. what a sick man he is.
& Brothers who are supporting Hassan Nisar please think for a moment that what he is doing.

 

[freshnkool]

@freshnkool @moazzamniaz​

اگر پاکِستان کا دِفاع اِن مؤنث بکروں نے کرنا ہے تو خاکی سانڈ صرف اپنی رعایا کو لتاڑنے کیلئے پال رکھے ہیں؟​

kis ny such kaha yee defe pakistan nahi balky tabah-e-pakistan council hai. mery ek dost ny ek bar ek baat kahi thi mulla militry allince k bary main but kahi esy andazy main thi k joo itna munsib nahi try karta hoon munasib banany ki :P

jab bhee khaki sandh ki awam ki leny ko dill karta hai tu woo mullan koo eshara karty hain mullah islam k naam per awam ki tangeen or bazoo bandh dety hain orr pher ek khaki sandh pechy say bhaag kar atta hai or awam per char jata hai orr agly 10-11 sall uttarny kaa naam nahi leta. es doran mullah khoob kahky lagta hai or daad deta hai khaki sandh koo or jab awam chilati hai k bus karoo sandh sahib jaan choro haiii mar gy. tu mullah pass khara foran kahta hai awam koo hashhhhhh nadan chup kar islam khatry main hai. tu pagal tu nahi hoo gia?

yee story itni bar dohrai gai k awam koo bhee adat par gai hai k khuch sall sandh k bagair guzareen tu awam pher ari terchi nazron say GHQ ki traf dekhny lagti hai. but lata hai awam ki bhee yee gandi adad abb choot jai gi

 

[BuTurabi]

kis ny such kaha yee defe pakistan nahi balky tabah-e-pakistan council hai. mery ek dost ny ek bar ek baat kahi thi mulla militry allince k bary main but kahi esy andazy main thi k joo itna munsib nahi try karta hoon munasib banany ki :P

jab bhee khaki sandh ki [HI]awam ki leny ko dill karta hai tu woo mullan koo eshara karty hain[/HI] mullah islam k naam per awam ki tangeen or bazoo bandh dety hain orr pher ek khaki sandh pechy say bhaag kar atta hai or awam per char jata hai orr agly 10-11 sall uttarny kaa naam nahi leta. es doran mullah khoob kahky lagta hai or daad deta hai khaki sandh koo or jab awam chilati hai k bus karoo sandh sahib jaan choro haiii mar gy. tu mullah pass khara foran kahta hai awam koo hashhhhhh nadan chup kar islam khatry main hai. tu pagal tu nahi hoo gia?

yee story itni bar dohrai gai k awam koo bhee adat par gai hai k khuch sall sandh k bagair guzareen tu awam pher ari terchi nazron say GHQ ki traf dekhny lagti hai. but lata hai awam ki bhee yee gandi adad abb choot jai gi

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:​

 

[nasirk]

Did I blame west ? I am not blaming I am just saying that stop picturing them like gods. Ethics of people is as a whole corrupt and tilted towards bad these days. Secondly if west is making innovation they are not giving it for the love to humanity but for ROI.

Every year tons of food is wasted with deliberateness to stabalize the food prices. Wars are waged and conflict are not being resolved so that people can sell arms. So stop praising people of west blindly.

That was my point.

Its not praising brother. Its just to learn from their success. Once muslims ruled the world due our education military and technology advancements. We forgot that to succeed, learn from past and present. West is not God but still controlling everything. Because they worked hard. We have to stop cursing them and work on our shortfalls. So that we may rise once again. Malaysia did. Turkey did. West is also west for them but they worked hard. hasan nisar speaks in negative tone but instead of listening to tone, listen to what he is saying. He is right in his thoughts. Just a thought, if bin qasim can wage war on sindh just due to a letter of muslim woman, because we were super power then, west can wage war too because they are powerful. to stop powerful, be powerful nd to achieve that, work hard, listen to critique and be a change.

 

[aamir_blues]

Feet-e-Moon aisy PROGRAM ka . na hi DEFA-E-PAKISTAN ka maoqaf clear howa. aur na hi ANGREZON ki Tarraqi Clear hoi. weisy Hassan Nisaar sab. ENGRAZON ki taraqi ka TAANA aap detey hain. darusst. aap STRONGLY kahein. k AYE MERI QUAM ( RUSSH , JAMGHATO ) ILM HASSIL KARO.......... LAIKIN ILM kesy hassil karein 70-90% awam itna parh sakti hai k wo 20-10% AFSARON k liye clerki kakaam karein. ....... HAY........... HAY AFSOS.

 

[Farhan82]

what a comment hahahaaaaaaaaa [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

 

[saifsaif]

itni MASRUF quam hai Pakistani que koi Pakistan bacha raha hai,koi Swiss account bacha raha hai,koi SHAHEED bacha raha hai,Koi Sadar and PM bacha rqha hai,koi AURTEIN bacha raha hai(MQM) etc, O ALLAH humain bhi kio bachai ga in 190 millions LEADERS main se ?

 

[saifsaif]

I think its good to make presherise groups otherwise this govt would have sold us yet.I think its in favour of AWAM these groupes because govt and US are under presher.

 

[Queue Farms]

I suggest u to listen his blabbering , cursing and hatrad towards nation , thn read my comments again

Ive been in USA for last one year. By the way yes most of the west is monotheist. The things you watch on movies or media about their culture is far from reality.
They work hard they respect each other and they have humanity of islamic principles.
The corporate world just like in Pakistan is corrupt. The sugar mills in Pakistan are selling toxic sugar. Go and check chemical reports of them.
Let us stop blaming west for our failures. We have to put our heads in books and logics to see what hasan nisar is saying. Just for a reference there is a book by Allama Iqbal. The reconstruction of religious thoughts in Islam. His lectures on modern world and what Muslim generation should do about that.
Lets us stop judging people and listen to what they are saying.

Regards.

We have our ADVANCED VERSIONS OF HASSAN NISAR. They are called RON PAUL!!

Sadly, the public doesnt get it.

So you see, the problem is the stupidity of the masses. Everyone votes for a living. No old person will vote for Ron Paul because they may "loose their social security benefits".

Its not praising brother. Its just to learn from their success. Once muslims ruled the world due our education military and technology advancements. We forgot that to succeed, learn from past and present. West is not God but still controlling everything. Because they worked hard. We have to stop cursing them and work on our shortfalls. So that we may rise once again. Malaysia did. Turkey did. West is also west for them but they worked hard. hasan nisar speaks in negative tone but instead of listening to tone, listen to what he is saying. He is right in his thoughts. Just a thought, if bin qasim can wage war on sindh just due to a letter of muslim woman, because we were super power then, west can wage war too because they are powerful. to stop powerful, be powerful nd to achieve that, work hard, listen to critique and be a change.

 

[nasirk]

I suggest u to listen his blabbering , cursing and hatrad towards nation , thn read my comments again

His cursing and hatred towards the nation is justified due our own actions and state of affairs. A country where mother selling her children, a nation where graves are not safe a nation where people like us can talk on internet and not dare to come on roads. I accept his hatred towards me as a part of this nation.

 

[khan27]

mere khyal mein log yahan andhay nahi hein par sakte hein is liye guzarish hai caps on kar ke na likha kare...:P

 

[Queue Farms]

Is he not part of the nation ? What is his contribution of change ?

His cursing and hatred towards the nation is justified due our own actions and state of affairs. A country where mother selling her children, a nation where graves are not safe a nation where people like us can talk on internet and not dare to come on roads. I accept his hatred towards me as a part of this nation.

 

[nasirk]

Is he not part of the nation ? What is his contribution of change ?

The contribution of change is according to profession. Scholars, writers, journalists contribute by showing mirror to the nation and they are part of nation but due their active brains.. they can show our faces in plain words. e.g. saadat hasan, habib jalib, ahmed faraz. im not comparing hasan with them but just showing this is their job to talk people and show them mirrors.
its not an argument with you. Im just saying instead of judging hasan nisar, why not we accept what he is saying and be change ourselves. Teach poor children around us, go to madrassas weekly and talk to those students. Write and search for the solutions of our city streets or just family. Hope so you understand what i am saying. I am with you for the change but ive stopped judging people and listen to what can really show me my true face so that i can feel ashamed and work harder to do a little bit better than what i did in past. a struggle for what u believe in.
Regards.

 

[Queue Farms]

Please show me his scholarly work if any and no Newspaper articles are not scholarly work

The contribution of change is according to profession. Scholars, writers, journalists contribute by showing mirror to the nation and they are part of nation but due their active brains.. they can show our faces in plain words. e.g. saadat hasan, habib jalib, ahmed faraz. im not comparing hasan with them but just showing this is their job to talk people and show them mirrors.
its not an argument with you. Im just saying instead of judging hasan nisar, why not we accept what he is saying and be change ourselves. Teach poor children around us, go to madrassas weekly and talk to those students. Write and search for the solutions of our city streets or just family. Hope so you understand what i am saying. I am with you for the change but ive stopped judging people and listen to what can really show me my true face so that i can feel ashamed and work harder to do a little bit better than what i did in past. a struggle for what u believe in.
Regards.

 

[nasirk]

Please show me his scholarly work if any and no Newspaper articles are not scholarly work

so for you journalism is not scholarly? Do search for him on google, on his personal website. You will find your answer. Secondly my argument is stop judging people and you are so stuck in that you are not moving on. Stop judging people. its 21st century world.

 

[Queue Farms]

I scholar should have some hypothesis , some theories some original thoughts , I guess hasan nisar missed all. He just blindly praise the west no matter what.He has flawed view of history. The problem is he is doing monologues or dialogue with people don't have any view point. So they cant argue about validity and challenge him

so for you journalism is not scholarly? Do search for him on google, on his personal website. You will find your answer. Secondly my argument is stop judging people and you are so stuck in that you are not moving on. Stop judging people. its 21st century world.

 

[nasirk]

I scholar should have some hypothesis , some theories some original thoughts , I guess hasan nisar missed all. He just blindly praise the west no matter what.He has flawed view of history. The problem is he is doing monologues or dialogue with people don't have any view point. So they cant argue about validity and challenge him

what if you stop judging hasan nisar nd his personality and think on what he is saying...... every society has flaws. But rite now west is ruling us because they are better. once we were super powers. So to again rise above, accept our weaknesses nd work on logic. that is all what hasan nisar is saying in his tone. which u cn hate bt u cnt defy his message.

 

[Queue Farms]

Why on Earth should not I. On every they this bully came on tv and start spreading hateful speeches against Pakistan without giving me a solution. and I am F%%%%%G defying what he is saying. Read all my previous comments on how shallow his views are and u come to know I strongly disagree what he said

what if you stop judging hasan nisar nd his personality and think on what he is saying...... every society has flaws. But rite now west is ruling us because they are better. once we were super powers. So to again rise above, accept our weaknesses nd work on logic. that is all what hasan nisar is saying in his tone. which u cn hate bt u cnt defy his message.