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LeftBrain

MPA (400+ posts)
OK, lets start with the basic idea of this proposition, STRONG AREA and VOTE BANK................ where is PTI strong and where does they have any vote bank? Why anybody support a failure party anyways? and what is the guarantee that IK wont make a u-turn this time again as he did on every single occassion on every single issue?

and first of all, who from PTI gave you this authority to propose this deal and what is your own credibility?
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

OOPPPPSSS!!! Ayub Khans soul in GeoG
the same line/Word he used to say when karachites supported Fatimah jinaah

General Tum Ko Bohat Yad Rehtay Hain
Kabi Zia Ul Haq, Tumhara Jad e Amjad
Kabi Musharraf, Tumharay Baray Abu
Kabi Naseer Ullah Babar Ko Bi Yad Kar Liya Karo
Apni Family Planning Kay Liyay
 

dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
OK, lets start with the basic idea of this proposition, STRONG AREA and VOTE BANK................ where is PTI strong and where does they have any vote bank? Why anybody support a failure party anyways? and what is the guarantee that IK wont make a u-turn this time again as he did on every single occassion on every single issue?

and first of all, who from PTI gave you this authority to propose this deal and what is your own credibility?



@Left Brain first o0f use ur right side of Brain and life would be easier wfor you as your LEFT SIDE of brain isn't working as it seems,you want vote bank answers take this for an answer.

Look ! you know that in areas having rejuvenated support of PTI in Punjab, there is another heavyweight group and that is PML-N. Do not underestimate the potential of PML-N. Gone are the days when Nawaz Sharif used establishment's support as the only tool to gain power. Last elections gave him a first-time genuine mandate. If we consider the factor of declining popularity of Nawaz Sharif in mind, then one must be realistic to think that his vote bank may reduce upto 30 % (maximum). Now this is very small window of opportunity or a vacuum which will be filled by PML-Q or PTI with PML-N still managing to bag ample votes. This division of right-wing votes will again benefit PPP whose static vote bank will always prevail ( labor class / workers, lower class / illiterate Pakistanis, leftist intellectuals, liberals, communists, atheists, Shiites, Qadiyanis and other minorities ). So a miracle would be to bag ten to twelve seats in Punjab unless and until the present government commits major politico-economic blunders in the ensuing months.

However corrupt NWFP regime, bitter experiences of MMA, and PTI's undinted stance on drone attacks / war on terror, are favorable signs for PTI's performance in next elections. With these ground realities in mind, we can foresee that number of seats gained by this party in North would be less than sufficient to form any sort of government. Thus PTI should never-ever think of giving free hand to other parties in Sindh and Balochistan. Balochistan's northern Pakhtun areas may show support for Imran Khan, but Baloch areas will remain pro-feudal. Imran and his PTI have chance in urban Sindh with educated and politically aware class. Areas, like Sukkur, Nawabshah, Mirpur Khas, Hyderabad and some parts of Karachi may show orientation towards PTI, after proper campaign. This is where PTI can snatch votes from MQM. The probability is there and that is why possible loss of votes in said areas will be a nightmare for MQM. MQM's real time rival is PTI with politically mature, educated and motivated voters. MQM is aware of that and you can see heated exchanges between MQM and PTI on media and on internet forums. The only problem is terrorist advantage of MQM, which may stop PTI from proliferating. Rural Sindh will overwhelmingly remain pro-PPP.

So to sum it up we can say that after grabbing a handful of seats in Punjab, moderate number slots from NWFP, few seats from northern Balochistan (including Quetta with possible alliance of PKMAP) and some 'miracle seats' from urban Sindh, PTI will be in better position to be called a national party and may possibly be in position to form an alliance with like-minded group in the future government.

secondly if not satisfied with this answer tell me i would give you clippings of where PTI is growing of AKHBARAY JAHAN,supporter of MQM see nothing beyond karachi and plus people like you who are the main reason of the DEBACLE OF THIS GREAT NATION who just take the easy way out and just criticize on every single issue.

2ndly i am a nor,al citizen like you who wants betterment in this country,and i found a solution we could implement on individual basis,and please refrain form confortation,as i have sincerely made this forum CONFRONTATION FREE,or otherwise i could give you LOGICAL answer,2 ur DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM,if our intrested in the proposal more then welcome otherwise,you are free 2 go!!
 

dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@Armani seriously people like you are needed in this society and check the attitude of people here that they welcome negative mindedness and DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM of any sort that STUPID POST OF @LEFT BRAIN,got critical acclaim and was rated by two members as a high

@Gazoo bhai lol that is good but that is IMPRACTICAL,I don't know why i feel you like the easy way out and just pointing fingers at others of blames like SUB IN COMPETENT HAIN,you want run away from duties as a citizen,then if you want to carry this attitude i suggest stop worryng about PAKITSAN SITTING INCANADA,and have your GLASS OF JUICE and curse these politicians but while doing that have this IMPRACTICAL APPROACH and do nothing CONSTUTIVE OR THINK POSTIVE ATLEAST FOR PAKISTAN

Go on have your glass of juice and have the best LIFE THERE,this attitude of PATRIOTIC PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN LIKE YOU ARE ONE OF THE MANY REASON PAKISTAN IS IN THIS SITUATION.

Why BLAME ONLY POLITICANS,we are bigger sinners then our politicians doing nothing 4 our society and poor people and just CRICIZE CRITICIZE FIGHT HERE ON FORUMS and then have a nice day,without realizing poiltics is a serious work!!!
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@Armani seriously people like you are needed in this society and check the attitude of people here that they welcome negative mindedness and DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM of any sort that STUPID POST OF @LEFT BRAIN,got critical acclaim and was rated by two members as a high

@Gazoo bhai lol that is good but that is IMPRACTICAL,I don't know why i feel you like the easy way out and just pointing fingers at others of blames like SUB IN COMPETENT HAIN,you want run away from duties as a citizen,then if you want to carry this attitude i suggest stop worryng about PAKITSAN SITTING INCANADA,and have your GLASS OF JUICE and curse these politicians but while doing that have this IMPRACTICAL APPROACH and do nothing CONSTUTIVE OR THINK POSTIVE ATLEAST FOR PAKISTAN

Go on have your glass of juice and have the best LIFE THERE,this attitude of PATRIOTIC PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN LIKE YOU ARE ONE OF THE MANY REASON PAKISTAN IS IN THIS SITUATION.

Why BLAME ONLY POLITICANS,we are bigger sinners then our politicians doing nothing 4 our society and poor people and just CRICIZE CRITICIZE FIGHT HERE ON FORUMS and then have a nice day,without realizing poiltics is a serious work!!!

You show them little weakness
and they will straight go for your throat
This is a Fasciest Tolla not a Political Party
Hope you learned your lesson
 

dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@GEOG certainly have EXAMPLE LEFT BRAIN AND THAT ahmed GUY,i was being so lenient and i wanted solution anyways next time they criticize i have 2 be my self typical i guess!!!
 

LeftBrain

MPA (400+ posts)
@Left Brain first o0f use ur right side of Brain and life would be easier wfor you as your LEFT SIDE of brain isn't working as it seems,you want vote bank answers take this for an answer.

Look ! you know that in areas having rejuvenated support of PTI in Punjab, there is another heavyweight group and that is PML-N. Do not underestimate the potential of PML-N. Gone are the days when Nawaz Sharif used establishment's support as the only tool to gain power. Last elections gave him a first-time genuine mandate. If we consider the factor of declining popularity of Nawaz Sharif in mind, then one must be realistic to think that his vote bank may reduce upto 30 % (maximum). Now this is very small window of opportunity or a vacuum which will be filled by PML-Q or PTI with PML-N still managing to bag ample votes. This division of right-wing votes will again benefit PPP whose static vote bank will always prevail ( labor class / workers, lower class / illiterate Pakistanis, leftist intellectuals, liberals, communists, atheists, Shiites, Qadiyanis and other minorities ). So a miracle would be to bag ten to twelve seats in Punjab unless and until the present government commits major politico-economic blunders in the ensuing months.

However corrupt NWFP regime, bitter experiences of MMA, and PTI's undinted stance on drone attacks / war on terror, are favorable signs for PTI's performance in next elections. With these ground realities in mind, we can foresee that number of seats gained by this party in North would be less than sufficient to form any sort of government. Thus PTI should never-ever think of giving free hand to other parties in Sindh and Balochistan. Balochistan's northern Pakhtun areas may show support for Imran Khan, but Baloch areas will remain pro-feudal. Imran and his PTI have chance in urban Sindh with educated and politically aware class. Areas, like Sukkur, Nawabshah, Mirpur Khas, Hyderabad and some parts of Karachi may show orientation towards PTI, after proper campaign. This is where PTI can snatch votes from MQM. The probability is there and that is why possible loss of votes in said areas will be a nightmare for MQM. MQM's real time rival is PTI with politically mature, educated and motivated voters. MQM is aware of that and you can see heated exchanges between MQM and PTI on media and on internet forums. The only problem is terrorist advantage of MQM, which may stop PTI from proliferating. Rural Sindh will overwhelmingly remain pro-PPP.

So to sum it up we can say that after grabbing a handful of seats in Punjab, moderate number slots from NWFP, few seats from northern Balochistan (including Quetta with possible alliance of PKMAP) and some 'miracle seats' from urban Sindh, PTI will be in better position to be called a national party and may possibly be in position to form an alliance with like-minded group in the future government.

secondly if not satisfied with this answer tell me i would give you clippings of where PTI is growing of AKHBARAY JAHAN,supporter of MQM see nothing beyond karachi and plus people like you who are the main reason of the DEBACLE OF THIS GREAT NATION who just take the easy way out and just criticize on every single issue.

2ndly i am a nor,al citizen like you who wants betterment in this country,and i found a solution we could implement on individual basis,and please refrain form confortation,as i have sincerely made this forum CONFRONTATION FREE,or otherwise i could give you LOGICAL answer,2 ur DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM,if our intrested in the proposal more then welcome otherwise,you are free 2 go!!
OK, so where is the answer about vote bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

hans

Banned
pti and MQM

Give me a clue,

if you do Google.. for PTI... nothing show's up

While when you do a Google search for MQM.. respective info pops up.
My query would be, is PTI a political party sustain enough popularity compared to MQM?

Or its just one local and regional party representing one's personal approach.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Give me a clue,

if you do Google.. for PTI... nothing show's up

While when you do a Google search for MQM.. respective info pops up.
My query would be, is PTI a political party sustain enough popularity compared to MQM?

Or its just one local and regional party representing one's personal approach.

Here is your answer
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Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
@GEOG certainly have EXAMPLE LEFT BRAIN AND THAT ahmed GUY,i was being so lenient and i wanted solution anyways next time they criticize i have 2 be my self typical i guess!!!
Mr. dagreat123:
Sorry to say, you are being personal now. I am the only Ahmed here and you are saying you will teach me the lesson. Please read my only one post in this thread and let me know any objectionable remarks there. I gave you Dua at the end and appreciated your kindness and sincerity , Yes I raised some issues that I want you to adress before proceed. But unfortunately, you emerge like others now who just love those sentences "Jo keh tumhare KanoN MeiN rus GholeiN.
Let's see what I wrote in my last post here and this very post made you to come out with your inner hatered for other people of Pakistan.

Not only me, many other MQM supporters already have thought on this idea. But just let me know, what will be your starting point? Can ego of Imran Khan will allow him to go to Nine Zero? Will he take back all the blames what he has been putting on MQM? I am asking you this because IK started that confrontation, and he has to come forward to resolve it. After that, I think MQM will happily shake hands with him. Believe me, if this begining hurdle has been crossed successfully, then the rest will be a smooth sailing.
Secondly, how these parties will face the immense criticism of media and other parties? How they will satisfy their voters on this marriage? Do you have any mechnism to deal these issues?
Your sincerity is no doubt very appreciable. Any effort that brings a decency in the lives of Pakistanis, should be addressed on it's due merit.
God bless you.

That's how PTI is training their workers and supporters? Is this your sincerity and positive efforts towards the betterment of Pakistan? You only like those who are MR. YES to you?
You might not care, but I should take back my remarks about you.
You want to be typical, please go ahead and take a nice breath and distribute sweets in your fellows and tell them you have abused and have taught a lesson to an MQM worker. I don't care, I am already facing in this forum many Amitabh Bachans from his two great movies "LAWARIS" and "SHARABI."
Anyways
God bless you.
aijazAHMED
 
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dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Mr. dagreat123:
Sorry to say, you are being personal now. I am the only Ahmed here and you are saying you will teach me the lesson. Please read my only one post in this thread and let me know any objectionable remarks there. I gave you Dua at the end and appreciated your kindness and sincerity , Yes I raised some issues that I want you to adress before proceed. But unfortunately, you emerge like others now who just love those sentences "Jo keh tumhare KanoN MeiN rus GholeiN.
Let's see what I wrote in my last post here and this very post made you to come out with your inner hatered for other people of Pakistan.

Aijaz Ahmed BHai with all due respect and apologies ,i wasn't talking abt you there is another guy with the ID AHMED 107 who was talking like this,and my post which you are indictaing is due to the fact that i gt dissapointed that i want reconciliation and still MQM supporters like 2 people are criticzing PTI without any facts , I am srry if you thought of getting personal ,my apologies seriously i am feeling really bad now!!!

That's how PTI is training their workers and supporters? Is this your sincerity and positive efforts towards the betterment of Pakistan? You only like those who are MR. YES to you?
You might not care, but I should take back my remarks about you.
You want to be typical, please go ahead and take a nice breath and distribute sweets in your fellows and tell them you have abused and have taught a lesson to an MQM worker. I don't care, I am already facing in this forum many Amitabh Bachans from his two great movies "LAWARIS" and "SHARABI."
Anyways
God bless you.
aijazAHMED

@Aijaz Ahmed BHai with all due respect and apologies ,i wasn't talking abt you there is another guy with the ID AHMED 107 who was talking like this,and my post which you are indictaing is due to the fact that i gt dissapointed that i want reconciliation and still MQM supporters like 2 people are criticzing PTI without any facts , I am srry if you thought of getting personal ,my apologies seriously i am feeling really bad now!!!

And i replied to your post previously
 

dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@Aijaz ahmed that was my reply 2 ur previous post I am really sorry if you took other meaning from it!!


@Aijaz Ahmed That wasn't My point i am proposing the fact on individual Level,Suppose let me Explain this to ALL of you I am a PTI supporter RIGHT and i am Living in Sindh Right,It's obvious that MQM is strong in SINDH and PTI isn't strong in SINDH and doesn't possess voters in SINDH,so what we should do is ask people to vote 4 MQM and tell the SUPPORTERS of PTI it is 4 a better cause,Similarly 4 IK in KPK and PUNJAB!!!
 

dagreat123

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@Aijaz bhai there isn't any kind of hatred for people of pakisatn,as i am already living in pakistan ,not an overseas GEEK,and am well aware of people!!
 

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