I ask Shah Mehmood Qureshi to not to negotiate with Govt as they have unlawfully arrested our worker

[United4Pak]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

now every tv channel which sometimes gives opinion in favor of PTI or TUQ is biased now? PTV attack is controversial now due to so many credible people doubting it however what you linked just now happened actually in open area infront of everyone and if this is true for a few PTI workers then they should be kicked out at any cost and action should be taken against them and IK has again seriously condemned it :)

I said on both sides so please don't twist words. What is the credibility of an anchor or journalist who is associated with any channel. Either you accept every news from that channel as word of god else you yourself are biased as you accept it when it suits you and don't when it doesn't.

 

[khawaja07]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

I said on both sides so please don't twist words. What is the credibility of an anchor or journalist who is associated with any channel. Either you accept every news from that channel as word of god else you yourself are biased as you accept it when it suits you and don't when it doesn't.

Mere bhai Ja ke dekho Dunya ya SAMAA news wahaan app ko dono janib ki khabar milay gi..ager app word of GOD ki baat kartay hai then neither we can trust the words of PTV themselves they can twist the truth in any way they want and the govt. can easily use other people to defame PTI, PAT using such means..even your PM lies infront of the whole parliament, under his govt. how would you trust any state institution whether its the parliament or PTV themselves?

 

[United4Pak]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

Mere bhai Ja ke dekho Dunya ya SAMAA news wahaan app ko dono janib ki khabar milay gi..ager app word of GOD ki baat kartay hai then neither we can trust the words of PTV themselves they can twist the truth in any way they want and the govt. can easily use other people to defame PTI, PAT using such means..even your PM lies infront of the whole parliament, under his govt. how would you trust any state institution whether its the parliament or PTV themselves?

Oh bhai jaan, mein samaa dekhta hon lekin dunya nahi dekh sakta lekin what proof you have that they are not biased. I don't accept what Ptv says since I was a kid because it have seen exActly opposite what Ptv showed. Nawaz Sharif is my prime minister whether I voted or not for him. I guess it is true for you as well :) as much as government can defame opposition, same can be said about the PTI as I feel that they are not telling the whole truth which is not lying. I hope u understand the difference.

 

[khawaja07]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

Oh bhai jaan, mein samaa dekhta hon lekin dunya nahi dekh sakta lekin what proof you have that they are not biased. I don't accept what Ptv says since I was a kid because it have seen exActly opposite what Ptv showed. Nawaz Sharif is my prime minister whether I voted or not for him. I guess it is true for you as well :) as much as government can defame opposition, same can be said about the PTI as I feel that they are not telling the whole truth which is not lying. I hope u understand the difference.

Iam sorry buddy but iam an eye witness myself and with others also who saw what sort of rigging happened at my Halqa(NA-125), my friend saw saad rafique talking to his pmln people who came with him in the other voting booth saying that "PTI key vote mat parnay dena, zyada seh zyada vote zaya karo PTI keh" he also said that when he saw the lines of people voting for PTI hi was literally shaking in his boots wearing a hat hiding his tind :P... you wont believe at a place like DHA this kind of thing can be done easily..shortly after alot of reports of rigging were coming through different news portals around the country biggest outcry came from Sindh when MQM openly used people to vote from them at Gunpoint...and finally at night the counting stopped when nawaz sharif did his premature speech, saad rafique himself stopped voting of NA-125, i've had solid reports of that..so it was too little too late when the crime had been fully committed..so it was a sad night all around..i felt that my vote got stolen along with my fellow PTI members..so yea i dont accept nawaz sharif as my PM when he openly rigged the election... But yes you're right parties like PAT and PTI can also hide some truth as well which we still have to see however so far what PTI said about the govt. is being shown by the govt.'s actions like just how they implemented section 144 by arresting more than 3000 plus PTI workers from anywhere they could find and even innocent people...when the people who attacked PTV were only about 100-150..so for now PAT and PTI's demands are legit we need to fix this electoral system at any damn cost and it cannot be done under a lying prime minister whether IK will become the PM or not, thats none of my concern as a PTI supporter...that'll be decided only through vote.

 

[United4Pak]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

Iam sorry buddy but iam an eye witness myself and with others also who saw what sort of rigging happened at my Halqa(NA-125), my friend saw saad rafique talking to his pmln people who came with him in the other voting booth saying that "PTI key vote mat parnay dena, zyada seh zyada vote zaya karo PTI keh" he also said that when he saw the lines of people voting for PTI hi was literally shaking in his boots wearing a hat hiding his tind :P... you wont believe at a place like DHA this kind of thing can be done easily..shortly after alot of reports of rigging were coming through different news portals around the country biggest outcry came from Sindh when MQM openly used people to vote from them at Gunpoint...and finally at night the counting stopped when nawaz sharif did his premature speech, saad rafique himself stopped voting of NA-125, i've had solid reports of that..so it was too little too late when the crime had been fully committed..so it was a sad night all around..i felt that my vote got stolen along with my fellow PTI members..so yea i dont accept nawaz sharif as my PM when he openly rigged the election... But yes you're right parties like PAT and PTI can also hide some truth as well which we still have to see however so far what PTI said about the govt. is being shown by the govt.'s actions like just how they implemented section 144 by arresting more than 3000 plus PTI workers from anywhere they could find and even innocent people...when the people who attacked PTV were only about 100-150..so for now PAT and PTI's demands are legit we need to fix this electoral system at any damn cost and it cannot be done under a lying prime minister whether IK will become the PM or not, thats none of my concern as a PTI supporter...that'll be decided only through vote.

Dear, this thing has been happening after 1971 and not a single election has been fair so don't inform me what I know already. To prove it is a bit difficult task. Everyone was with IK after the election but he wasted a lot of time. I supported him with my family voting for him but don't think the way he took people to parliament is right. A lot has been said about the election so please don't go there. He should reform the party because it sounds like Musharraf's B team. Now, don't say because Nawaz Sharif did it so we have to do it, we need to win seats etc. ****** aisi siasat pe jo ke phir wohi purani biradri or electables ki siasat kar ke ho. I still feel IK is the best person to lead the country but not the tactics and people he is using. I hope you understand. The system is rotten and I agree but not with the tactics. If it was such a wrong system then why got involved in the system by taking KPK government. THings are not rosy there so now start pointing fingers at others is not right either. I agree that system needs reform and rather an overhaul but not at any cost because cost can be too heavy if we are not careful. I am happy that at least you have the guts to argue rather than start abusing like others without knowing which side I support.

 

[khawaja07]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

Dear, this thing has been happening after 1971 and not a single election has been fair so don't inform me what I know already. To prove it is a bit difficult task. Everyone was with IK after the election but he wasted a lot of time. I supported him with my family voting for him but don't think the way he took people to parliament is right. A lot has been said about the election so please don't go there. He should reform the party because it sounds like Musharraf's B team. Now, don't say because Nawaz Sharif did it so we have to do it, we need to win seats etc. ****** aisi siasat pe jo ke phir wohi purani biradri or electables ki siasat kar ke ho. I still feel IK is the best person to lead the country but not the tactics and people he is using. I hope you understand. The system is rotten and I agree but not with the tactics. If it was such a wrong system then why got involved in the system by taking KPK government. THings are not rosy there so now start pointing fingers at others is not right either. I agree that system needs reform and rather an overhaul but not at any cost because cost can be too heavy if we are not careful. I am happy that at least you have the guts to argue rather than start abusing like others without knowing which side I support.

To bro ap is electoral system ko change kese karo gay? even if IK has some musharraf B-TEAM members its a bitter truth that he needs seats and you cannot win seats everywhere solely on putting a new naujawan candidate..our country's people dont know their rights, they will still vote nawaz, zardar, due to electables.. rinse and repeat also half if its done by rigging half through electables.. even IK tried to field some naujawan but most of them lost except for a few including Murad saeed, etc.. it doesn't matter if there are some electables in your part what really matters is who is leading them however there should be no charges of corruption over them....Imran khan is still control of the party, he is the one who makes decisions and has genuine people like Asad umar, Arif Alvi, Shafqat Mehmood in it, at the top. What is really the need of the time is to first fix this electoral system once and for all through any means necessary but remaining under constitution..if you dont know, outside in foreign countries, if such evidence is found about rigging against a govt. then its PM gives resignation until a proper investigation is completed.. but see here the problem is that the state institutions under Nawaz sharif cannot be trusted at any cost he can abuse them in any way he wants, so he must go away temporarily first..the parliament cannot be trusted 100% on this as you can yourself see the kind of statements coming out of it during these last 5-6 days..on one hand they all accept that elections were rigged but on the other hand say that we will support the current pm at no cost while the same opposition did the same violent things in the lawyer's movement aka beating policeman taking over buildings etc.. so my point is you have to change the electoral system and its rules..through any constitutional means..govt. isn't even accepting PTI's 5 demands that it was ready to accept before why dont you see that? if you let this go on then it will destroy pakistan in the end...what good has come out of the previous 2 'democratic' governments?

 

[khawaja07]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

Need of the time is Honesty and Patriotism, these are the basic fundamental needs we lack how can we set of being a proper democracy without it? ager apnay is democracy ko kisi bhi vaja seh isi tarhaan chalnay diya then no one, no way will be able to change the fate of pakistan, all parties, PML-N, PPP, MQM, JUI-F, AWTP, ANP, etc except for PTI and Jamaat-e-Islami are corrupt to the core they will take sides and will always use govt. machinery to abuse it and rig elections why not set a historic precedent and fix the electoral system? Imran khan is the only hope and When is the need of moment and not How. I want to see my country back to the top no matter what the friggin cost, hell i dont even care it seems undemocratic for some reason, it needs to be done, iam sick of this same situation in our country for countless generations..only in Bhutto's era Pak saw some progress otherwise its all been 'teri bari phir meri bari'...

 

[United4Pak]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

Need of the time is Honesty and Patriotism, these are the basic fundamental needs we lack how can we set of being a proper democracy without it? ager apnay is democracy ko kisi bhi vaja seh isi tarhaan chalnay diya then no one, no way will be able to change the fate of pakistan, all parties, PML-N, PPP, MQM, JUI-F, AWTP, ANP, etc except for PTI and Jamaat-e-Islami are corrupt to the core they will take sides and will always use govt. machinery to abuse it and rig elections why not set a historic precedent and fix the electoral system? Imran khan is the only hope and When is the need of moment and not How. I want to see my country back to the top no matter what the friggin cost, hell i dont even care it seems undemocratic for some reason, it needs to be done, iam sick of this same situation in our country for countless generations..only in Bhutto's era Pak saw some progress otherwise its all been 'teri bari phir meri bari'...

lets agree to disagree as I don't believe imran khan is our last hope and I don't for a second believe that getting rid of this system will help anyone. I would like to see PAK at the top but not sure if it is the right way. Other parties have corrupt people but I think problem is beyond that.

 

[khawaja07]

Re: Shah Mehmood Qureshi, I ask you not to negotiate as they have unlawfully arrested our workers :- Imran Khan

lets agree to disagree as I don't believe imran khan is our last hope and I don't for a second believe that getting rid of this system will help anyone. I would like to see PAK at the top but not sure if it is the right way. Other parties have corrupt people but I think problem is beyond that.

as you please... lets see if its the country's last chance to progress or if its got more chances..