How to handle next Raymond Davis? Should we bring him to Court? Any suggestion?

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What happend with Raymond Davis we have seen it. We were expecting a fair Trial in court. Unfortunitly in this case our courts and Judjes were all sold. For this fair expectation Pakistani nation were even awarded a slap on face from own Military also.

I leave it up to you all to decide what should happen with next Raymond. What responsibility is now on the shoulders of Pakistani Police and Security Men what they should realise it now and make their mind.

Pakistani Nation has decided one thing: Next Raymond should not enter court at any cost.
 
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drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
reymond davis was stupid,that he killed openly in mid of most crowded area in lahore....let me assure you there are many reymond davis among us doing there spying and terrorist activities in pakistan but there will not be any more arrest of them.they will complete there mission till they are successful and our army and politicians will keep getting fat checks and american visas for that.

also not all reymond davis like spies are white,,most are pakistanis hired in america to do spying for them in pakistan,so you cant even differentiate them as being americans
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Raymond Davies was innocent. Two armed men (one of them had criminal record with police) tried to rob him while he was travelling in his car. He shot them in his defence. Pakistanis made drama out of it. It is pitty.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
With current government , you cannot expect different result...
Exactly, nothing will happen if another one is caught. These traitors will sell us out again, so instead of waiting for something like that, we should kick out these traitors.
 

Muhammad Tauseef A. Bajwa

Senator (1k+ posts)
What happend with Raymond Davis we have seen it. We were expecting a fair Trial in court. Unfortunitly in this case our courts and Judjes were all sold. For this fair expectation Pakistani nation were even awarded a slap on face from own Military also.

I leave it up to you all to decide what should happen with next Raymond. What responsibility is now on the shoulders of Pakistani Police and Security Men what they should realise it now and make their mind.
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Pakistani Nation has decided one thing: Next Raymond should not enter the court at any cost.
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Yes! Sharpen your blades and had strong faith in Allah (SWT)! Death can not be 'delayed or altered' then why not opt "Shahadat'?
 

sahiL

Senator (1k+ posts)
We will have to start reforming ourselves first...............................
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
security of state is the responsibility of security agencies whether davis case or any other case. first people to be answerable are security agencies
 

sarmad

Senator (1k+ posts)
What happend with Raymond Davis we have seen it. We were expecting a fair Trial in court. Unfortunitly in this case our courts and Judjes were all sold. For this fair expectation Pakistani nation were even awarded a slap on face from own Military also.

I leave it up to you all to decide what should happen with next Raymond. What responsibility is now on the shoulders of Pakistani Police and Security Men what they should realise it now and make their mind.

Pakistani Nation has decided one thing: Next Raymond should not enter court at any cost.

Very good thread.

If our judiciary and government going to work like that then people must take matters in their own hand. They are forcing us to become QADRI!!!
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
What happend with Raymond Davis we have seen it. We were expecting a fair Trial in court. Unfortunitly in this case our courts and Judjes were all sold. For this fair expectation Pakistani nation were even awarded a slap on face from own Military also.

I leave it up to you all to decide what should happen with next Raymond. What responsibility is now on the shoulders of Pakistani Police and Security Men what they should realise it now and make their mind.

Pakistani Nation has decided one thing: Next Raymond should not enter court at any cost.
public to handle next and he should be killed by public and his body to be dragged on road till the houses of those who get murder.all this to telecast on tv as it was done by Somalians.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
What happend with Raymond Davis we have seen it. We were expecting a fair Trial in court. Unfortunitly in this case our courts and Judjes were all sold. For this fair expectation Pakistani nation were even awarded a slap on face from own Military also.

I leave it up to you all to decide what should happen with next Raymond. What responsibility is now on the shoulders of Pakistani Police and Security Men what they should realise it now and make their mind.

Pakistani Nation has decided one thing: Next Raymond should not enter court at any cost.

Kia khaak revolution lao gey tum:

Raymond Davis Raymond Davis keh k hm apney gunahoon ko kion bhool jatey hain

kia Aymond Davis ne kaha tha zardari Jesa beg.harat apna saddar bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha rehman malik je.sa d.all.a apna interior minister bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha NS jesa be.gharat or m.unafiq leader of opposition bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha aik ghundey ore katil ko qaid e tehreek bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha k mulk to islam k naam pe lia he aap lisani jamaatain bnao ore mulk torney ki batain karo
kia raymond davis ne ISI ko kaha tha 7 lakh fauj k hotey hoey mujahideen bnao jo baad me tumhaien k marein ore awam k saath topey darama ho

Agar is wakey se qaum ko kuch gherat atee he to vo ye honee chahey k ainda begharto ko vote mat do begharto ko support mat karo agar ye kaam krtey ho to revolution aiey ga verna tum raymond davis martey raho tumhareeey begh.arat hukamran or bulatey raheygey
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Kia khaak revolution lao gey tum:

Raymond Davis Raymond Davis keh k hm apney gunahoon ko kion bhool jatey hain

kia Aymond Davis ne kaha tha zardari Jesa beg.harat apna saddar bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha rehman malik je.sa d.all.a apna interior minister bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha NS jesa be.gharat or m.unafiq leader of opposition bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha aik ghundey ore katil ko qaid e tehreek bnao
kia raymond davis ne kaha tha k mulk to islam k naam pe lia he aap lisani jamaatain bnao ore mulk torney ki batain karo
kia raymond davis ne ISI ko kaha tha 7 lakh fauj k hotey hoey mujahideen bnao jo baad me tumhaien k marein ore awam k saath topey darama ho

Agar is wakey se qaum ko kuch gherat atee he to vo ye honee chahey k ainda begharto ko vote mat do begharto ko support mat karo agar ye kaam krtey ho to revolution aiey ga verna tum raymond davis martey raho tumhareeey begh.arat hukamran or bulatey raheygey

Do not make responsible Pakistani nation for selecting these looters. Game running in Pakistan is much more complicated than to put all responsibility on Pakistanis. You should know that almost half of all Votes in election 2008 were faked (45% Votes In Election of 2008 in Pakistan were Fake: Nadra)

 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Do not make responsible Pakistani nation for selecting these looters. Game running in Pakistan is much more complicated than to put all responsibility on Pakistanis. You should know that almost half of all Votes in election 2008 were faked (45% Votes In Election of 2008 in Pakistan were Fake: Nadra)


Saari zindagi doosro ko ilzaam de kr hi guzr gaee agey b yahi kaam krtey raho isi ko kehtey hain khiali polao pakana...........
lagta he planet jupiter pe rehtey ho pakistan me on ground jo logo ka sincerety level he vo nhi daikha.

hawa me baatain krtey raho koi faida nhi jb tk apney aapko theek nhi kro gey nothing can happen.

as a believer of Islam i believe that Allah exists ................kabi socha nhi tm ne k Allah ne hmare ooper isey ghatia log kion hukamraan bnaey hain ???????/
ager khoopri me dimaagh he to zroor sochna bahadri apni ghalti accept krney me he na accept krney valey ko jahil hi kaha ja sakta he.

jin qomoon ne apney aap ko sahih kia vohi aaj sarr utha kr chaltee hain unki izat b he ore hmareee hm to sarkaar ki hr cheez ko chorey krna apna haq samhajtey hain.

raymond davis my foot.apney gareban me hm daikh nhi saktey kionkey hmain khudpasandi ki beemari he.
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Saari zindagi doosro ko ilzaam de kr hi guzr gaee agey b yahi kaam krtey raho isi ko kehtey hain khiali polao pakana...........
lagta he planet jupiter pe rehtey ho pakistan me on ground jo logo ka sincerety level he vo nhi daikha.

hawa me baatain krtey raho koi faida nhi jb tk apney aapko theek nhi kro gey nothing can happen.

as a believer of Islam i believe that Allah exists ................kabi socha nhi tm ne k Allah ne hmare ooper isey ghatia log kion hukamraan bnaey hain ???????/
ager khoopri me dimaagh he to zroor sochna bahadri apni ghalti accept krney me he na accept krney valey ko jahil hi kaha ja sakta he.

jin qomoon ne apney aap ko sahih kia vohi aaj sarr utha kr chaltee hain unki izat b he ore hmareee hm to sarkaar ki hr cheez ko chorey krna apna haq samhajtey hain.

raymond davis my foot.apney gareban me hm daikh nhi saktey kionkey hmain khudpasandi ki beemari he.

I bet you have no better comment left. I am agreed on point that everybody should correct him/herself first. But keeping silent on things which effects the whole nation at worse is also crime.

Next Raymond will be justified on Pakistani Streets by pakistani nation. Fear all spies in Pakistan from that day. This is promissed.

you wrote:

as a believer of Islam i believe that Allah exists ................kabi socha nhi tm ne k Allah ne hmare ooper isey ghatia log kion hukamraan bnaey hain ???????/


The Prophet of Allah Taa'la
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says: Whoever among you witnesses a bad thing, it is necessary for him to bring that to a halt with his hands, and if he does not have the potential for that; then he should stop him through his tongue, And if he does not have the ability to stop that with his tongue, then by his heart; he should think bad of this sin and that is the lowest level of Iman.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
I bet you have no better comment left. I am agreed on point that everybody should correct him/herself first. But keeping silent on things which effects the whole nation at worse is also crime.

Next Raymond will be justified on Pakistani Streets by pakistani nation. Fear all spies in Pakistan from that day. This is promissed.

you wrote:

as a believer of Islam i believe that Allah exists ................kabi socha nhi tm ne k Allah ne hmare ooper isey ghatia log kion hukamraan bnaey hain ???????/


The Prophet of Allah Taa'la
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says: “Whoever among you witnesses a bad thing, it is necessary for him to bring that to a halt with his hands, and if he does not have the potential for that; then he should stop him through his tongue, And if he does not have the ability to stop that with his tongue, then by his heart; he should think bad of this sin and that is the lowest level of Iman.”

I can't see the image but the hadyt you are quoting you never understood it properly everyone is answerable to what he is responsible of or what he has authority of.

Islam does not give me authority to kill anyone bcs i think he is wrong...........courts are there to decide if that was not the case then their would have been no courts in islamic system.
everyone has certain rights and for that rights he has to do certain duties..........a man is only answerable if he does not fulfill his duties.

the hadyt you are misquoting here (as it was used by taliban to kill innocent muslims and target pakistan army ) is applicable inside your authority.In Islam you are not authorized to kill raymond davis this authority lies with government through judiciary.

you have the authority to speek so speek the truth you have the authority to vote so elect those who are best among you.
you have different authority levels inside your home may b you have wife sisters brothers mother for every relation you have rights and duties.If you perform your duties then you are on level one.

similarly in society you have many duies to your fellow beings if you perform them you are at level one.

similarly you have duties towards Allah and your state if you perfom them then you are on level one.

So within your authority (given by islam) if you stop some bad thing then you are at level one, if you cannot stop it wid hand but you try to stop it with tong then you are at level two,and if you cannot do even that then if you think of it as a bad thing in your heart then you are at the weakest level of eman.

and last thing is if you do not even call a bad thing bad in your heart then there is no eman in your heart.
 
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PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I can't see the image but the hadyt you are quoting you never understood it properly everyone is answerable to what he is responsible of or what he has authority of.

Islam does not give me authority to kill anyone bcs i think he is wrong...........courts are there to decide if that was not the case then their would have been no courts in islamic system.
everyone has certain rights and for that rights he has to do certain duties..........a man is only answerable if he does not fulfill his duties.

the hadyt you are misquoting here (as it was used by taliban to kill innocent muslims and target pakistan army ) is applicable inside your authority.In Islam you are not authorized to kill raymond davis this authority lies with government through judiciary.

you have the authority to speek so speek the truth you have the authority to vote so elect those who are best among you.
you have different authority levels inside your home may b you have wife sisters brothers mother for every relation you have rights and duties.If you perform your duties then you are on level one.

similarly in society you have many duies to your fellow beings if you perform them you are at level one.

similarly you have duties towards Allah and your state if you perfom them then you are on level one.

So within your authority (given by islam) if you stop some bad thing then you are at level one, if you cannot stop it wid hand but you try to stop it with tong then you are at level two,and if you cannot do even that then if you think of it as a bad thing in your heart then you are at the weakest level of eman.

and last thing is if you do not even call a bad thing bad in your heart then there is no eman in your heart.


=> Do you think this Gov. is at stand where people should still follow them.
=> Are you telling me what happened to Raymond Davis was correct? We should respect the decision of Court. Whos judges left their seats for American nationality?
=> Judiciary who went to jail 2' Oclock AMto decide there on Raymond Davis
=> Voting where nearly 50% wotes were faked.
=> You are telling me to respect these Baste--ds

No for sure not. Not under this government.

If now a spy is caught shoot him at the place.
This is my message to all police men and Security persons. This is the Best you can do for Pakistan.