How many people want to have Sharia Law and Khilafat Style of Govt in Pakistan?

[spitfire]

What type of Sharia?

There are so many versions of sharia now, I am so confused which sharia to follow. sometimes i even begin to doubt whether i am even a muslim, based on current sharia versions. So yeah we need to clarify which version is meant here in the thread. I definitely don't want Taliban version.

 

[Pak1stani]

And that one is which one? the one in Saudi or Iran or Afghanistan or of Sufi Mohammad or something else?

same sharia which was applied by pbuh

 

[Wadaich]

شرعی قانون کے نافذ ہونے یہ نہ ہونے سے پاکستان میں کچھ خاص فرق نہیں پڑے گا. اصل بات یہ ہے کہ ہم سب لوگ خود شرعی احکامات کے مطابق اپنی زندگی گزاریں. عمل میں ہم لوگ شیطان ہیں تو کیا خاک فائدہ ہونا ہے شرعی قوانین کے نفاذ کا. اگر رسول اکرم pbuh کے دور میں یہ قانون نافذ تھا تو صحابہ کرام :razi: بھی اپنے ایمان اور عمل میں بے مثال تھے. پہلے اپنے آپ کو صحیح کرو. قانون بھی اسکے بعد نافذ ہو جائے گا

It is sharia law which gets everybody in discipline. And without full power sharia law cannot be implemented. There is no concept of Islamic society without Government.

 

[sarbakaf]

And that one is which one? the one in Saudi or Iran or Afghanistan or of Sufi Mohammad or something else?

what a stupid question
Answer is sharia to Mohammed pbuh

if you do not know sharia of Quran o Sunnah then go and learn about it first before posting fazool comments

 

[Proudmuslim]

Humari qoum sirf shariya law se hee sahi hoo sakti hai simple

 

[Pak1stani]

Do all our Ulema Knows about it? If yes then why there are so many different school of thought?

what a stupid question
Answer is sharia to Mohammed pbuh

if you do not know sharia of Quran o Sunnah then go and learn about it first before posting fazool comments

 

[Ghareeb ul watan]

Taliban wali Bhaiii- Jo DIKhan say woman police wali ko bhi "maal e ghanimat" kay taur par utha lay gaiy hain
Taliban wali Bhaiii-Jo har jumay Muselmanoo ki Juma namaz kay dauran ya nikaltay hovay qurbani daitaay hain
Taliban wali Bhaiii-Jo qabroan say murday nikal kar bijly kay khambaon par latka daitay hain
Taliban wali Bhaiii-Jin kay "murabi @murabay wala halwa" Fazlo-akora walay Huqo samee aur jamat e izlami kay munafqeen" hain
Taliban wali Bhaiii-Jo US drone ka badla Pakistani bachaon aur aurtoan aur ghareebaon say laitay hain
Taliban wali Bhaiii-Jin ki tamam alamtain "Kharjion" say more than 100% milti hain

What type of Sharia?

 

[Naamdar]

میرا سوال یہ ہے کہ کیا خلیجی عرب، ٹوبہ ٹیک سنگھ کے الله دتہ چودھری کو خلیفہ تسلیم کر لینگے ؟

 

[TONIC]

میرا سوال یہ ہے کہ کیا خلیجی عرب، ٹوبہ ٹیک سنگھ کے الله دتہ چودھری کو خلیفہ تسلیم کر لینگے ؟

No they won't but we will not be accountable for what they do or what they won't do they have not created their countries for Sharia/Khilafat but we have created our country for that, if we will do it then in short time they will also demand it. I hope you will agree with me.

 

[Naamdar]

No they won't but we will not be accountable for what they do or what they won't do they have not created their countries for Sharia/Khilafat but we have created our country for that, if we will do it then in short time they will also demand it. I hope you will agree with me.

Its more complicated than that. Ideologies require expansion to survive. Once you have established Khilafah in one country, the Shariah demands to expand it to bring other Muslims into its hold. You can't just assume that the expansion would be peaceful.

When the Taliban established their government in Afghanistan and Mullah Omar was given the title of "Amir Ul Mominin", representatives of Hizb at Tahrir went to ask Mullah Omar if what he has established is a Khilafah? Mullah Omar replied, "its not Khilafat, its Emarat". A claim of Khilafat would have turned his already few friends against him which they did anyways after a while. Remember that by claiming that you established a Khilafah, you are also giving an ultimatum to the world,that sooner or later you are going to invade everyone.

 

[TONIC]

Its more complicated than that. Ideologies require expansion to survive. Once you have established Khilafah in one country, the Shariah demands to expand it to bring other Muslims into its hold. You can't just assume that the expansion would be peaceful.

When the Taliban established their government in Afghanistan and Mullah Omar was given the title of "Amir Ul Mominin", representatives of Hizb at Tahrir went to ask Mullah Omar if what he has established is a Khilafah? Mullah Omar replied, "its not Khilafat, its Emarat". A claim of Khilafat would have turned his already few friends against him which they did anyways after a while. Remember that by claiming that you established a Khilafah, you are also giving an ultimatum to the world,that sooner or later you are going to invade everyone.

Expansion is dependent if you are stable if you are not then no need for expansion.

 

[Naamdar]

Expansion is dependent if you are stable if you are not then no need for expansion.

Well our extreme poverty and instability in Pakistan has never stopped us from interfering in other countries with expansionist intentions. The Taliban expanded from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Central Asia. Al-Qaeda is present everywhere from Bangladesh to Somalia. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are following expansionist designs in the Middle East. Iran is doing the same. What are you talking about?

Once you have totalitarian state, It WILL try to expand, no matter what .

 

[TONIC]

Well our extreme poverty and instability in Pakistan has never stopped us from interfering in other countries with expansionist intentions. The Taliban expanded from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Central Asia. Al-Qaeda is present everywhere from Bangladesh to Somalia. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are following expansionist designs in the Middle East. Iran is doing the same. What are you talking about?

Once you have totalitarian state, It WILL try to expand, no matter what .

Don't worry about Saudi Arabia/Qatar/UAE they will die their death very soon. Once again I will say that we have to see our own home and what we are doing and weather we are doing anything for implementing Sharia Law/Khilafat style of Govt or not.

You can rename Khilafat as Emarat or President name is not important, important thing is the essence of Dean (Socio, Political & Economic System).

 

[Naamdar]

Don't worry about Saudi Arabia/Qatar/UAE they will die their death very soon. Once again I will say that we have to see our own home and what we are doing and weather we are doing anything for implementing Sharia Law/Khilafat style of Govt or not.

You can rename Khilafat as Emarat or President name is not important, important thing is the essence of Dean (Socio, Political & Economic System).

Well I live in a real world. I can not just assume that these countries will go away. Like I said, you are not talking about a political system limited to one country, you are talking about an ideology here. Ideology is never limited to a country's borders.

 

[TONIC]

Well I live in a real world. I can not just assume that these countries will go away. Like I said, you are not talking about a political system limited to one country, you are talking about an ideology here. Ideology is never limited to a country's borders.

We live in real world and so did all the messengers who came, Quran is also found in the real world, Allah has asked us to implement his Dean (Socio, Economic & Political systems) in the real world. If we will implement Allah's system it will be difficult and extremely unpopular but eventually people will see benefit from it and exporting Ideology is extremely easy if you can show the benefits of the system in one place other people will incorporate it in their countries. To start a journey you have to take the first step otherwise neither journey will start and neither you will reach your destination.

 

[Liberal Fascist]

کتنے افسوس اور منافقت کی بات ہے کہ جو لوگ اسلامی نظام میں کیڑے نکالتے ہیں اور یہ بے بنیاد اعتراض اٹھاتے ہیں کہ کونسا اسلامی نظام ، سنی ، شیعہ ، دیوبندی ، بریلوی ، اہل حدیث ، وہابی وغیرہ وغیرہ

کیا جمہوریت کیلئے اپنے گلے پھاڑتے وقت بھی وہ یہ خیال کرتے اور سوچ رہے ہوتے ہیں کونسی جمہوریت ، شریف جمہوریت ، زرداری جمہوریت ، اوبامہ جمہوریت ، کیمرون جمہوریت ، جرنیلی جمہوریت ، ٹینکوں والی جمہوریت ، بندوق کی نالی والی جمہوریت ، مرسی والی جمہوریت ، اردوگان والی جمہوریت ، ایرانی جمہوریت ، پیوٹن والی جمہوریت ، بند بوری والی جمہوریت ، بھتہ خوری والی جمہوریت ، چینی جمہوریت ، ذات پات والی جمہوریت ، ماضی میں پھنسی ہوئی انتقامی جمہوریت ، مک مکا والی جمہوریت ، وڈیروں جاگیرداروں اور سرداروں والی جمہوریت ، ممنون کرنے والی جمہوریت ، شاہی خاندانوں والی جمہوریت ، وغیرہ وغیرہ ،

پہلے تمام لوگوں کا ان میں سے کسی ایک جمہوریت پر اکٹھے ہونے کا بتا دو تو پھر میں تمھیں یہ بتا دوں گا کہ
کونسی شریعہ اور کونسا اسلامی نظام نافذ ہوگا

ف ج

پھِر جیسی جمہوریت چل رہی ہے شریعہ بھی ویسے ہی چلے گی​

 

[sarbakaf]

Do all our Ulema Knows about it? If yes then why there are so many different school of thought?

why are there so many tafseers of one quran ? or books of hadiths ????

why do so many roads lead to same destination

Simple answer is if you are confused do not confused let it be with ur self do not try to confuse others.

Different opinions are different schools of thoughts and that is the beauty of islam . Go and see what Abdullah Ibn E umer R.A said about these opinions and how he proclaimed it to be a blessing for ummah.

any way....you also need alot of learning to do so do not be your own teachers let some scholar teach you.

 

[Pak1stani]

Problem is even if all roads lead to same destination our Ulema objects on other. People are not allowed to pray in some mosques because of different school of thought.

why are there so many tafseers of one quran ? or books of hadiths ????

why do so many roads lead to same destination

Simple answer is if you are confused do not confused let it be with ur self do not try to confuse others.

Different opinions are different schools of thoughts and that is the beauty of islam . Go and see what Abdullah Ibn E umer R.A said about these opinions and how he proclaimed it to be a blessing for ummah.

any way....you also need alot of learning to do so do not be your own teachers let some scholar teach you.

 

[atensari]

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[jazz1108]

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