Hindus protest Muslim prayers at public school 283

aftab ahmed

Voter (50+ posts)
Hindus protest Muslim prayers at public school 283
BY TOM GODFREY ,TORONTO SUN
FIRST POSTED: MONDAY, JULY 4, 2011 4:32:04 EDT PM

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TORONTO - Hindus from across Toronto plan to protest outside a North York middle school until a controversial Friday prayer session for 400 Muslim students is stopped.

The Canadian Hindu Advocacy is one of a number of Toronto-area groups who are opposed to the 30- to 40-minute services that occurred in the cafeteria of Valley Park Middle School on Overlea Blvd. from November to March.

An imam from a local mosque is brought to school to head the service, officials said. During the service male students are made to sit in front of the girls.

This is alarming and unacceptable, said Advocacy director Ron Banerjee. We respect the separation of church and state.

He said his group will be sending letters of protest to the Toronto District School Board in the next few days and calling for an end of the noon-time services. That will be followed by protests in November, when the services resume, if the prayers are to continue next school year.

Theres not supposed to be any religious classes taking place in public schools, Banerjee said. We will be asking the board to stop the practice.

He said school officials stopped students from reciting the Lords Prayers years ago and his group will picket the Muslim classes if the practice isnt stopped.

Our organization has received many complaints from Hindu students and parents in the Valley Park Middle School region, Banerjee said.

He said his group would like to begin a discussion with TDSB authorities aimed at restoring secular education within the school system.

We would also like to discuss the serving of halal meat within TDSB schools, he said. Our organization is determined to ensure all Hindu students are provided non-halal meat alternatives.

Area resident Khalid Sheikh, who claims to be president of Parents For School Not for Political Parties, said local school councils have been hijacked and controlled by Muslim groups and political parties.

Neutral parents who do not like this political stuff in our schools are neglected, Sheikh said. For Gods sake, stop this nonsense in our schools.

Area trustee Gerri Gershon said there are many tensions within the community.

The school should not be focused on these tensions and politics but have a wide representation of young people, Gershon said.

She said the program began after discussions with parents, community leaders and the school administration.

Malcolm Buchanan, of Civil Rights in Public Education, said he has no problems with the Muslim prayer service as long as it doesnt take place while classes are in session.

Schools are for learning and not religious ideology, said Buchanan. We have no problems as long as it doesnt take place during school time or the kids are not forced to take part.

TDSB officials said on Monday the prayer sessions have been taking place for three years and are designed to help with the safety of students, who do not have to leave school to attend mosque.

The officials said the prayer sessions are working well and they havent been approached about making changes.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/04/hindus-protest-muslim-prayers-at-public-school
 

shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Alarming situation for muslims they should unite and fight for their rights

Everything in todays world is alarming for mulims. They should first try to implement Islam in their own country before standing up and fighting for their rights. The issue with muslims is they are not safe in their own countries and they want to practice their religion in non muslims countries. The problem in the west is Religion by law cannot be practiced in Public School. In the past there were Morning Prayers for Christians but they were abolished due to seperation of church and the state.

In our own countries we do not let people practice their faith. We go to a next level we isolate them, boy cott them and some extremists even kill them, even if some of them call them selves muslims but follow a different set of beliefs.

Before standing up for our rights we need to set an example and give others their rights. We need to implement Islam in its true soul in our own countries so that muslims or non muslims who want to practice their faith can live peacefully together like they used to live in Madina and later in Makkah. We are responsible for this situation of muslims and it is not going to change untill we change our selves, implement islam in our life and in our country and let other live and understand our faith.
 

Zionist Hindu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Unless this school is islamic school, religion should be kept out of public school. Its good that hindus and liberal minded people have started complaining about this. Muslims or any religious group shouldn't be given any preferential treatment in any civilized nation. If this situtation is tolerated Canada is doomed.
 

Zindabad4u

Senator (1k+ posts)
Well first of most of students are Muslim what about their rights and they are praying once in week for 45 mins which is not big deal. Many of the school, colleges, Universities in UK have separate rooms or some time they used sport hall. This is very small thing but its big thing for Muslims I know it’s to hard for non-Muslim to understand that feelings.
 

Zionist Hindu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Well first of most of students are Muslim what about their rights and they are praying once in week for 45 mins which is not big deal. Many of the school, colleges, Universities in UK have separate rooms or some time they used sport hall. This is very small thing but its big thing for Muslims I know it’s to hard for non-Muslim to understand that feelings.

Well if its legal then, then i have no issues. There are hundreads of religions in this world. If all of them start praying each and everyday. Some of them may not just pray but sing and dance and light candles and so on. SOme of them might start meditationg on the canteen floor. Will that not disrupt others. 2 or 3 different religions might want to pray in the same time, thus needing a bigger hall, one might disturb the other by there style of prayer. Some faiths might want toshower and change cloths before and after payer. It will become a circus. However i am not apposed to having a room (away from sight of young children) meant for prayers for all religion just like smokers room on big organization. Most of big offices have them and thats fine. I would not want even a pennyof taxpayer money wasted to propogate any religion. In civilized nations anyone is free to practice their faith. Hoever I personally believe public places such as schools where these young boys and girls don't even know whats right or wrong, religion should be kept seperate.
 

modern fakir

MPA (400+ posts)
Nothing better can be expected from you.. On one hand you people claim the two nation theory doesn't work and you want to live with Muslims side by side..But the moment a problem props up ..you people are the first to piggy back the WEST to support your cause !..cuz you and your entire farce country doesnt have the balls to confront us face to face ...so you play protege and take the back route.. But still once a loser is always a loser !

Have you read the article properly ?..Why doesnt the Chinese or Buddhist council object to this practice ??..Why only the Hindu Council ?..The hypocrisy is evident !

Its not that a bunch of Muslims got together and started this Good Practice ON Their OWN ..it was sanctioned by the concerned Authorities ! Here read the truth in these lines "


Malcolm Buchanan, of Civil Rights in Public Education, said he has no problems with the Muslim prayer service as long as it doesn’t take place while classes are in session.

SO NO ONE HAS AN ISSUE ..BUT YOU!


“Schools are for learning and not religious ideology,” said Buchanan. “We have no problems as long as it doesn’t take place during school time or the kids are not forced to take part.”

TDSB officials said on Monday the prayer sessions have been taking place for three years and are designed to help with the safety of students, who do not have to leave school to attend mosque.

THIS IS THE TRUTH

The kids would be walking to different mosques during their lunch break to Attend Friday Prayers which is a BIG TIME SAFETY HAZARD FOR THESE CANADIAN KIDS.. Just like the christians attend prayers on Sunday and the Jews on Saturday..us Muslims have it on a friday ! So to safeguard KIDS SAFETY this program was put in place which is completely in Line with the CONSTITUTION OF CANADA AND DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS !

A SAFETY OF A CANADIAN AND THAT OF A CANADIAN CHILD IS PARAMOUNT - This is for all those religiously jealous zealots who see through their rear holes as opposed to their EYES !

The only thing which will be doomed by doing this is some medival cow cola drinking jealousy ..who are apprehensive of their FORMER and FUTURE Masters !

We will Inshallah Implement this Service All over India as well in the Future ! - AGAIN

Unless this school is islamic school, religion should be kept out of public school. Its good that hindus and liberal minded people have started complaining about this. Muslims or any religious group shouldn't be given any preferential treatment in any civilized nation. If this situtation is tolerated Canada is doomed.
 

modern fakir

MPA (400+ posts)
NO One is asking for your dumb opinion..If you people truly had Good Logic and Sound religious theory ..Your ideology would have spread worldwide ..Which obviosly HASNT..So you Can definitely not be a Judge of what is right for the kids and at what age


Why dont u first figure out what you need to do with the Dalits and the Shudrs ..before talking about Canadian Kids !


Well if its legal then, then i have no issues. There are hundreads of religions in this world. If all of them start praying each and everyday. Some of them may not just pray but sing and dance and light candles and so on. SOme of them might start meditationg on the canteen floor. Will that not disrupt others. 2 or 3 different religions might want to pray in the same time, thus needing a bigger hall, one might disturb the other by there style of prayer. Some faiths might want toshower and change cloths before and after payer. It will become a circus. However i am not apposed to having a room (away from sight of young children) meant for prayers for all religion just like smokers room on big organization. Most of big offices have them and thats fine. I would not want even a pennyof taxpayer money wasted to propogate any religion. In civilized nations anyone is free to practice their faith. Hoever I personally believe public places such as schools where these young boys and girls don't even know whats right or wrong, religion should be kept seperate.
 

dil-se-desi

MPA (400+ posts)
NO One is asking for your dumb opinion..If you people truly had Good Logic and Sound religious theory ..Your ideology would have spread worldwide ..Which obviosly HASNT..So you Can definitely not be a Judge of what is right for the kids and at what age


Why dont u first figure out what you need to do with the Dalits and the Shudrs ..before talking about Canadian Kids !

One thing is sure if they don't organize prayer
At school hardly 5% of them will go out for that.
It is deliberate attempt to create religious divide
Among kids...in liberal,secular and multiethinic society.

Why don't u ppl treat religion a personal affair
And keep practice at home ,mosque or private places
And avoid public show .do u have anything more than
That all non Muslims are kafirs and will go to HELL.
And it is ur religious duty to convert them into Muslims
By any mean forcefully or by jihad.

Ur cricket players were doing same public show of prayer
Were proved ultimately match fixers and thugs.

Religion has only one aspect,.....connection to spirit
And disconnect to material world ,whose attachment
Creates all sorrows and pains.
It is my strong beliefs that Islam as religion is hijacked
By criminal and power hungry ppl.who use religion
As tool and keep common ppl hostage of ideology of hate,revenge,
Insecurity ...thats why majority of ppl on this forum have
Only these subjects to discuss.
One more favourite subject is abuse Hinduism
And other religions.that only proves that more dark
Down the road.
 

butt47jk

Banned
ur reply speaks volumes. u are absolutely right we muslims are messing things up.it is our own actions that is causing islamaphobia and rightly so , we have never heard of the word compromise.we treat christians in pakistan with contempt infact i will go one stage further they r there to clean our faeces.it is our own actions that has made european governments cut down on pakistani visas.what have we become , i think that if Jinnah was alive today there would be so many fatwas on him . there would be a million qadris(son of a *****) wanting to assasinate him.
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
One thing is sure if they don't organize prayer
At school hardly 5% of them will go out for that.
It is deliberate attempt to create religious divide
Among kids...in liberal,secular and multiethinic society.

Why don't u ppl treat religion a personal affair
And keep practice at home ,mosque or private places
And avoid public show .do u have anything more than
That all non Muslims are kafirs and will go to HELL.
And it is ur religious duty to convert them into Muslims
By any mean forcefully or by jihad.

Ur cricket players were doing same public show of prayer
Were proved ultimately match fixers and thugs.

Religion has only one aspect,.....connection to spirit
And disconnect to material world ,whose attachment
Creates all sorrows and pains.
It is my strong beliefs that Islam as religion is hijacked
By criminal and power hungry ppl.who use religion
As tool and keep common ppl hostage of ideology of hate,revenge,
Insecurity ...thats why majority of ppl on this forum have
Only these subjects to discuss.
One more favourite subject is abuse Hinduism
And other religions.that only proves that more dark
Down the road.
What is religious divide? muslim,christians,jew kids have have full religious rights in canada,and you stupid hindus you even dont have any religion,you guys worship anything but God,Islam is not an Ideology its a way of life prayer is obligatory ,who will stop us from praying ?you ? go and try i challenge you ,you will fall on your faces and will lick dust.
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
y criminal and power hungry ppl.who use religion
As tool and keep common ppl hostage of ideology of hate,revenge,
Insecurity ...thats why majority of ppl on this forum have
Only these subjects to discuss.
One more favourite subject is abuse Hinduism
And other religions.that only proves that more dark
Down the road.
Its you full of hatred and protesting against muslims ,muslims will never do such a rubbish and not acceptable act.
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
NO One is asking for your dumb opinion..If you people truly had Good Logic and Sound religious theory ..Your ideology would have spread worldwide ..Which obviosly HASNT..So you Can definitely not be a Judge of what is right for the kids and at what age


Why dont u first figure out what you need to do with the Dalits and the Shudrs ..before talking about Canadian Kids !

Hindu religion does not believe in conversion. People who want to practice Hindu religion can do so without changing religion. That is why you have ISKCON etc., There are many all over the world who are Christians, Jews etc., but practice some aspects of Hindu religion like YOGA or "OM" mediating.

As for Dalits or shudras, these were not Hindu ideology but practiced by people in certain times to suit their ego and Hindu religion changes itself according to yuga and generation.. In modern India, Dalits and shudras rule most of Indian states and part of coalition Govt. at Centre. So, Dalit is only a political term now rather than a religious.

Keep believing in you want to believe will get you nowhere.
 
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AhmedTauseef

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Unless this school is islamic school, religion should be kept out of public school. Its good that hindus and liberal minded people have started complaining about this. Muslims or any religious group shouldn't be given any preferential treatment in any civilized nation. If this situtation is tolerated Canada is doomed.
friday prayer is important and cant be missed .... its not like ur religion where u have to hide some where to drink cow piss and worship cow ****
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
Unless this school is islamic school, religion should be kept out of public school. Its good that hindus and liberal minded people have started complaining about this. Muslims or any religious group shouldn't be given any preferential treatment in any civilized nation. If this situtation is tolerated Canada is doomed.

These hindu only need some publicity and maybe some money from their zionist masters. That's all. Otherwise nobody should have any objection if Muslims pray in spare time.

Tum jaisay se aur kia expect kia ja sakta hay?
 
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QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The opposition of Hindus can be understood as they have to go against Muslims what ever issues may be.
But the most strange is some of the groups, who call themselves Muslim and their names are like Muslims, are opposing this issue.
A small group, "Muslim Canadian Congress" announce that they will be protesting against Muslims praying at school premises along with Hindus.
Another Muslim Khalid Shaikh called it a stupidity and non-sense.
We always have Mir Jaafer and Mir Sadiqs in our files.
Why to blame others.