Hazrat Umer (R.A.) Ka Nizam e Hakumat

[atensari]

Is it not fact that 3 out of 4 Khalifas were assasinated.?Was that an ideal situation of law and order?And your favorite Khliafat remained only for few years?After that what happened?If it was such a strong system of governess,why Hazrat Ali and Amir Muaviya were in conflict with each other?Why Jang e jamal and Jang e Siffen took place?And there are countless "Whys" which cannot be answered.
Mere mazi ko andheron mein daba rehney do
Mera mazi meri zillat k siva kuch bhi nahin

What did your favorite system gave to world:

• Is it able to control political assassinations
• Drug Trafficking, Arms Black Marketing, Human Smuggling
• Was it able to Politically defeat Communism will it able to politically control China
• Demolition of Babri Masjid and attack on Golden Temple

Muslims:

• Whats wrong with Secular Turkey it is not welcomed in EU
• Christens of East Tamour and Sudan got their homeland, whats wrong with Palestinians and Kashmeries
• Why champions of Democracy and Human Rights always support Dictators and Kings, until international situation changes or inner revolts followed by UN and NATO expedition
• Will B52 bombers bring Democracy in Muslim country

Pakistan:

• PPP, ANP and MQM are accusing each other for murder of their worker and politicians are enjoying Ministries and Governorship
• 4 years back we used to say worst democracy is better then Dictator, now it's proved Democracy can be worst then Dictatorship
• How Raymond Davis able to get justice in 30 days due to Islamic Law, is similar rule applied over other similar cases
• Interior Minister keep eye on 11 guys, although he do not know how many Raymond Davis exist in country and why

 

[mrbaig]

Our Prophet SallAllaho Alaihi wa Sallam told us to love death as much as non muslims love life. All Four Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu loved to live life like ordinary persons and they loved Shadat more than you love life and if 3 of them were martryed in the way of Allah then why are u amazed on their martyrdom? Those Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu received what they pursued always. All Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu lived life on the principles of Allah.
And principles of Allah are always RIGHT. But science could be wrong. So system of Allah is always Right but capitalism,communism and all other isms could be wrong.

Jang e jamal and Jang e Siffen are the consequences of misunderstandings created by Jews among Muslims. These conflicts were already foretold by Prophet SallAllaho Alaihi wa Sallam. There is nothing new in it!!!

Trying to prove white to the black. Do not forget,these Khalifas were murdered by their own people not in any war against kuffars.Hense their wish(as you said) of Shahadat was
not fulfilled.
Ha Ha Ha.......we muslims always believe in conspiracy.All bad is always done by non-muslims perticularly Jews.Of what mindset you people are?Its mean you are admitting that muslims are so innocent(fool rather)since beginning that every one can make us fool.We do not find any fault inside ourselves.And the same menatality is dominating today.
Jang e Siffen and Jamal are not the only examples.Go through the history and have a neutral and honest look.No cure of stubborn minds.

 

[truthseeker1]

Trying to prove white to the black. Do not forget,these Khalifas were murdered by their own people not in any war against kuffars.Hense their wish(as you said) of Shahadat was
not fulfilled.
Ha Ha Ha.......we muslims always believe in conspiracy.All bad is always done by non-muslims perticularly Jews.Of what mindset you people are?Its mean you are admitting that muslims are so innocent(fool rather)since beginning that every one can make us fool.We do not find any fault inside ourselves.And the same menatality is dominating today.
Jang e Siffen and Jamal are not the only examples.Go through the history and have a neutral and honest look.No cure of stubborn minds.

Those Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu were living so simple life that they never hired even one guard to protect them. They were martyred by hypocrites and jews claiming to be Muslims. Some true muslims were also confused by those hypocrites. Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu never took any necessary step against those hypocrites because Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu were so pious that they don't want to spill blood of any person who claims to be a Muslim. It was their own choice!
But that choice was finished with Sahaba Radi Allahu Anhu. Now we take a good care of the likes of you!!!
Why don't you try to preach your "Neutral" ideas infront of public, just like Salman Taseer!!! Then you'll see how we take care of the likes of you!

 

[Truth_Hurts]

I have a question: if everything was so rosy and flourishing then why three khalifas died unnatural death. I wonder if Abu Baker's khalifat would have extended more than mere 2 years, how he would have died. Further a quick point for the khalifat preachers - who assert and pretend that it was best time humanity ever had. Then what is best explanation of battle of Jamal (5000+5000 soldiers from both sides were killed) and Battle of Siffin (45000 soldiers of Muawiyah and 25000 soldiers of Ali were killed, all of them were Sahaba: the person who saw of visited Prophet of Islam and accepted Islam as religion), surely the battles of Jamal and Siffin divided Muslim in Sunni and Shia blocks forever and never ending rift started, which still prevails in contemporary Islam of 21th century (i.e. Arab vs. Iran). Muslim simply followed the superior rulings of Byzantine Empire; as they had already all kind of set rules for armies, jails, and courts, post offices, Trade rules, Taxation system, freeing slaves, new calendar, and new churches and finally building new cities. If someone remembered the short time of Alexander, 60 new cities were built with the name of ''Alexandria''. It was approximately 900 years before the arrival of Islam.There was nothing new, all these things were already happening in Byzantine Empire. Lets see how a Muslim historian, Masudi, praised the Sassanian administration of Persia: "excellent administration of the Sassanid kings, their well-ordered policy, their care for their subjects, and the prosperity of their domains." All agricultural reforms in Arabia were brought from Persia. This was old stuff for world.
But yes ...all these things were very new for Arabs, and arrival of Islam brought all those changes in the life of nomad Arabs of Arab peninsula.
Khalifat: First 30 years of rule, after the death of prophet of Islam.

You clearly have not read the history of islam.. The reason why the khulfa were martyred was because they were following the true teachigns of islam and the fitna from people like YOU were developing inside it who wanted to take over the leadership from the khalifa..... The khalifa is a blessing from Allah and hazoor pbuh has prophecized that khalifat will once again come.. khilfat ila minhajin nabuwat .. meaning another khilfat will come after nabuwat.. so therefore you can keep your worldy ameer ul momeneen in nawaz sharif and zia ul huq, but we will follow what our prophet has told us..

What i do not agree is that when people say lets choose a khalifa or anything.. khalifat is from Allah and people cannot choose the khalifa, it has to be chosen by Allah and hazoor pbuh said that it will be after nabuwat so .. khlifat aila minhajin nabuwat is what we all want.

 

[mrbaig]

You clearly have not read the history of islam.. The reason why the khulfa were martyred was because they were following the true teachigns of islam and the fitna from people like YOU were developing inside it who wanted to take over the leadership from the khalifa..... The khalifa is a blessing from Allah and hazoor pbuh has prophecized that khalifat will once again come.. khilfat ila minhajin nabuwat .. meaning another khilfat will come after nabuwat.. so therefore you can keep your worldy ameer ul momeneen in nawaz sharif and zia ul huq, but we will follow what our prophet has told us..

What i do not agree is that when people say lets choose a khalifa or anything.. khalifat is from Allah and people cannot choose the khalifa, it has to be chosen by Allah and hazoor pbuh said that it will be after nabuwat so .. khlifat aila minhajin nabuwat is what we all want.

Sweet Dreams:)
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[Mughal1]

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