Hassan Nisar Ka "Dunya TV" Per Hijaab Aur Islam Ka Mazaaq Aur Tauheen Amaiz Guftago,
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indigo
Siasat.pk - Blogger
from the day one, I was against journalists (Lukaman, Nisar, Rasheed and others) involving with PTI a political party.. It is against political and media ethics to involve with each other...
If PTI claim to be different than other parties, then they must prove it...
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alimohsan52
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI even without the support of Hasan Nisar will become a huge force, they do not need his support.
indigo
Siasat.pk - Blogger
They don't need support of any other journalist too... And we should condemn thoes who involve in party's practices... If he still wants to support PTI, then he must leave his first profession and join PTI..
alimohsan52
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think Haroon Rasheed has been consistent in his support for PTI for the past 16 years. He backed PTI right from the start and he supports PTI ideology. I really like Haroon.
However, I am against Hasan Nisar and Lulman, because these two have trend in their record which makes it suspicious:
1. Initially they supported Musharraf
2. Then they supported MQM
3. In the case of Hasan Nisar he backed the Call of Altaf Hussain for patriotic generals to come and take over the country (when history has shown Military rule is not beneficial for Pakistan in the long term)
4. Then they supported PTI (Hasan Nisar was original member before he ditched the party)
So I am not convinced that Hasan Nisar or Lulman supports PTI genuinely
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Hasan nisar always does which he doesn't say. Saudi arab se fanoos chori ker ke pese bananay se le ker aaj tak usne eik accha kaam bhi kia hai?
I think PTI supporters like Indigo and Ali Mohsin are on the right track. One should criticize party, its decision and even the leaders for their own good so they know that they are not omnipotent and people have an eye on what they are doing. Bravo!
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I think PTI supporters like Indigo and Ali Mohsin are on the right track. One should criticize party, its decision and even the leaders for their own good so they know that they are not omnipotent and people have an eye on what they are doing. Bravo!
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alimohsan52
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why Hijab is Necessary (Dr Zakir Naik)
The question asked is, that when Islam believes in Womens Rights, that men and women should be equal then why does Islam believe in Pardah- and why should there be segregation of sexes, like the one we are having just now? As I mentioned earlier, Islam does not believe in intermingling of the sexes. Why Islam specifies Pardah? I will answer in a short time. And I would like to thank the sister, because I did not have time to speak on the Hijab of the women.
If you read the Quran - before the mentioning of the Hijab for the women, the Quran mentioned the Hijab, for the man. It is mentioned in Surah Nur, Ch. No. 24, Verse No. 30, it says to the believing man, that He should lower his gaze and guard his modesty. The next Verse Surah Nur, Ch. 24, Verse No. 31, says...Say to the believing woman, that she should lower her gaze and guard her modesty and display not her beauty, except what is that necessary of, and to draw a head covering over her bosom, except in front of her father, her son, her husband, and a big list of Na-Mahram, the close relatives which she can marry is given, and but natural, in front of the chaste women - Besides these, she should maintain the Hijab.
The criteria for Hijab in Islam, can be found in the Quran, and the Sahih Hadith. There are six criteria -
1st is extent, which is the only difference between a man and a woman. For the man, he has to be covered from the naval to the knee. For the woman, her complete body should be covered - the only part that can be seen, should not be seen, is the face and the hands up to the wrist. If she wishes to cover them, she is most welcome, but it is not compulsory that she should cover it - Otherwise the full body should be covered. The only part that can been seen not should not be seen, is the wrist, face and the hands, up to the wrist. This is the only criteria which differs, between the man and the woman.
The second criteria is that, the clothes she wears, should not be so tight, that it reveals the figure. The clothes she wears
third point - it should not be so transparent, so that you can see through.
And the fourth point - she should not wear glamorous clothes, or he should not wear glamorous clothes, which attracts the opposite sex.
The fifth point is that a person should not wear cloth, which resembles that of the opposite sex - like you find men wearing earnings. If you wear one earring, it signifies something else - if you wear two earrings, it signifies something else. It is prohibited in Islam.
And the last criteria is, you should not wear clothes which that resemble of an unbeliever.
These are the six basic criteria of Hijab, in Islam. Now coming to the question - why then Islam believe in Pardah, and why are there segregation of sexes? If let us analyse the society in which there is Pardah , and society in which there is, No Pardah . The maximum number of crime that takes place in any country it is in America. According to a report by the FBI in 1990, in the year 1990 One thousand, two hundred & fifty five women were raped. These are only the reported cases - And the report says Only 16% of the cases were reported. If you want those exact figure, multiply 1,02,555 with 6.25, and you get the answer - more than 6,40,000 ladies were raped in America only in 1990. And if you divide this by the number of days, divide by 365, you get a figure of One thousand, seven hundred and fifty six women are raped every day, in America, in the year 1990. And the report says... Every day One thousand, nine hundred ladies are raped - May be it is the report of 1991 the Americans got more bold. And the last report which came in Autumn, in 1993, it says... Every 1.3 minute, one woman is raped - you know why? America has given the women, more rights, and more women are being raped. Only 10 were arrested, 16% are reported - Only 10% are arrested - means only 1.6% of the cases, are arrested. Out of that, 50% are let free before the trial Means, only 0.8% of the rape cases, are held. Means, if a man rapes One hundred & twenty five ladies, the chances of his being caught, is one. Who would not like to try - One hundred & twenty five ladies you rape, and you get caught only once. Out of that, 50% time you get a punishment of less than 1 year though the USA law tells you that For rape, you have got a punishment of life imprisonment. But they say It is happened only the first time he is caught the first time - Let him give him a chance, and a punishment of less than 1year. Even in India, according to the National Crime Bureau report, which was which had come in the papers, in the 1 of December 1992, it said that Every 54 minutes, one case of rape is reported in India reported ha. Every 26 minutes, one case of molestation - every 1 hour 43 minutes, one case of dowry death. If you analyse the total number of cases of rape that are taking in our country, it will be every couple of minutes, one case of rape. I am asking a simple question - if you ask every lady to do Hijab, will the rape case in USA remain the same, will it decrease, or will it increase?. If you apply the Hijab for every lady in India, will the rate of rape decrease, will it remain the same, or will it increase? You should understand Islam, as a whole. Even suppose, after that even, after a lady does Hijab, irrespective a lady does Hijab, or not, a man is commanded He should lower his gaze - and if suppose after that, if a man commits rape in Islam, he receives capital punishment - you call it a barbaric law? I have asked this question to several people Suppose I have asked this question to many of the gents. Suppose your sister is raped, and if you are made the judge - leave aside what Islam tells you, leave aside what Indian law tells you, leave aside what American law tells you - If you are made the judge, what punishment will you give to the rapist of your sister? And all have said Death sentence - Few went to the extreme of saying I will torture him to death. Want to ask you a question If you apply the Islamic Shariah law in America, will the rape case decrease, will it remain the same, or will it in*crease? If you apply the Shariah law in India, will the rape case decrease, will it remain the same, or will it increase? So but natural, let us analyse practically. You say you have given women rights theoretically but practically, you are degrading her to a status of a concubine and a mistress. I would like to I mean only speak*ing on Pardah you can talk for days - Just I would like to and my answer, by giving a small example. Suppose two ladies two twin sisters were equally beautiful - if they are walking down the street, and if round the corner there is a hooligan, who is waiting for a catch who is waiting to tease a girl. Both twin sisters are walking, both are equally beautiful - one is in the Hijab Islamic Hijab - one is wearing a mini or a skirt. Which girl will that hooligan tease? Which girl will he tease? But natural, the one in the short or the mini girl. If a girl is wearing a normal salwar kameez, with her head open may be the salwar kameez tight, and the other girl is wearing a Islamic Hijab - Which girl will he tease? But natural, the girl who is not in Hijab. It is practical proof, that Hijab is been ordained in Islam not to degrade the woman, but to protect her modesty.
If you read the Quran - before the mentioning of the Hijab for the women, the Quran mentioned the Hijab, for the man. It is mentioned in Surah Nur, Ch. No. 24, Verse No. 30, it says to the believing man, that He should lower his gaze and guard his modesty. The next Verse Surah Nur, Ch. 24, Verse No. 31, says...Say to the believing woman, that she should lower her gaze and guard her modesty and display not her beauty, except what is that necessary of, and to draw a head covering over her bosom, except in front of her father, her son, her husband, and a big list of Na-Mahram, the close relatives which she can marry is given, and but natural, in front of the chaste women - Besides these, she should maintain the Hijab.
The criteria for Hijab in Islam, can be found in the Quran, and the Sahih Hadith. There are six criteria -
1st is extent, which is the only difference between a man and a woman. For the man, he has to be covered from the naval to the knee. For the woman, her complete body should be covered - the only part that can be seen, should not be seen, is the face and the hands up to the wrist. If she wishes to cover them, she is most welcome, but it is not compulsory that she should cover it - Otherwise the full body should be covered. The only part that can been seen not should not be seen, is the wrist, face and the hands, up to the wrist. This is the only criteria which differs, between the man and the woman.
The second criteria is that, the clothes she wears, should not be so tight, that it reveals the figure. The clothes she wears
third point - it should not be so transparent, so that you can see through.
And the fourth point - she should not wear glamorous clothes, or he should not wear glamorous clothes, which attracts the opposite sex.
The fifth point is that a person should not wear cloth, which resembles that of the opposite sex - like you find men wearing earnings. If you wear one earring, it signifies something else - if you wear two earrings, it signifies something else. It is prohibited in Islam.
And the last criteria is, you should not wear clothes which that resemble of an unbeliever.
These are the six basic criteria of Hijab, in Islam. Now coming to the question - why then Islam believe in Pardah, and why are there segregation of sexes? If let us analyse the society in which there is Pardah , and society in which there is, No Pardah . The maximum number of crime that takes place in any country it is in America. According to a report by the FBI in 1990, in the year 1990 One thousand, two hundred & fifty five women were raped. These are only the reported cases - And the report says Only 16% of the cases were reported. If you want those exact figure, multiply 1,02,555 with 6.25, and you get the answer - more than 6,40,000 ladies were raped in America only in 1990. And if you divide this by the number of days, divide by 365, you get a figure of One thousand, seven hundred and fifty six women are raped every day, in America, in the year 1990. And the report says... Every day One thousand, nine hundred ladies are raped - May be it is the report of 1991 the Americans got more bold. And the last report which came in Autumn, in 1993, it says... Every 1.3 minute, one woman is raped - you know why? America has given the women, more rights, and more women are being raped. Only 10 were arrested, 16% are reported - Only 10% are arrested - means only 1.6% of the cases, are arrested. Out of that, 50% are let free before the trial Means, only 0.8% of the rape cases, are held. Means, if a man rapes One hundred & twenty five ladies, the chances of his being caught, is one. Who would not like to try - One hundred & twenty five ladies you rape, and you get caught only once. Out of that, 50% time you get a punishment of less than 1 year though the USA law tells you that For rape, you have got a punishment of life imprisonment. But they say It is happened only the first time he is caught the first time - Let him give him a chance, and a punishment of less than 1year. Even in India, according to the National Crime Bureau report, which was which had come in the papers, in the 1 of December 1992, it said that Every 54 minutes, one case of rape is reported in India reported ha. Every 26 minutes, one case of molestation - every 1 hour 43 minutes, one case of dowry death. If you analyse the total number of cases of rape that are taking in our country, it will be every couple of minutes, one case of rape. I am asking a simple question - if you ask every lady to do Hijab, will the rape case in USA remain the same, will it decrease, or will it increase?. If you apply the Hijab for every lady in India, will the rate of rape decrease, will it remain the same, or will it increase? You should understand Islam, as a whole. Even suppose, after that even, after a lady does Hijab, irrespective a lady does Hijab, or not, a man is commanded He should lower his gaze - and if suppose after that, if a man commits rape in Islam, he receives capital punishment - you call it a barbaric law? I have asked this question to several people Suppose I have asked this question to many of the gents. Suppose your sister is raped, and if you are made the judge - leave aside what Islam tells you, leave aside what Indian law tells you, leave aside what American law tells you - If you are made the judge, what punishment will you give to the rapist of your sister? And all have said Death sentence - Few went to the extreme of saying I will torture him to death. Want to ask you a question If you apply the Islamic Shariah law in America, will the rape case decrease, will it remain the same, or will it in*crease? If you apply the Shariah law in India, will the rape case decrease, will it remain the same, or will it increase? So but natural, let us analyse practically. You say you have given women rights theoretically but practically, you are degrading her to a status of a concubine and a mistress. I would like to I mean only speak*ing on Pardah you can talk for days - Just I would like to and my answer, by giving a small example. Suppose two ladies two twin sisters were equally beautiful - if they are walking down the street, and if round the corner there is a hooligan, who is waiting for a catch who is waiting to tease a girl. Both twin sisters are walking, both are equally beautiful - one is in the Hijab Islamic Hijab - one is wearing a mini or a skirt. Which girl will that hooligan tease? Which girl will he tease? But natural, the one in the short or the mini girl. If a girl is wearing a normal salwar kameez, with her head open may be the salwar kameez tight, and the other girl is wearing a Islamic Hijab - Which girl will he tease? But natural, the girl who is not in Hijab. It is practical proof, that Hijab is been ordained in Islam not to degrade the woman, but to protect her modesty.
BanneD
MPA (400+ posts)
Hasan Nisar is an intellectual who mirror the reality of today's Pakistan.. I think it is better to change our thoughts and grow up.. We are having some living assets and he is one of them.. Accept him or reject him, donot abuse him as you only can generate your feeling and thought which cannot be same as of others..!
And yet he says that he is not a religious scholar or he rejects to answer if any question arises from the field which is not of his concern!
And yet he says that he is not a religious scholar or he rejects to answer if any question arises from the field which is not of his concern!
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BanneD
MPA (400+ posts)
Jaanu we had liked that page as we support him.. We can't like more then a time.. xD
Noora League at their best. I don't agree with most of his thoughts but here I can smell some sort of propaganda against Hassan nisar because he openly supports IK and PTI. Na Na yun baat nahi banai gi.
He is rightly complaining about muslim Countries in central asia because it is fact that there is no liberty of doing according to your own belief and religion.
He did not say this right that the muslim in france should not protest against hijab. Mr Hassan nisar should know that there are not only immigrant muslims but there are other muslims as well who are native and born there. where should they go then ??? so this argument of Hassan nisar is very week.
He said right that we see women in pakistan and sometimes we harass them even if they are covered and in hijab but in these countries nobody say them anything because it is so common. But it doesn't mean that our women should become nude or naked. we should not hesitate to accept the reality. we should also not hesitate to accept that even being a muslim we don't try to follow fundamentals of Islam.
We always get ourselves involved in these matters of "parda" and "Daari" which has secondary importance. where are followings:
Toheed Namaz, Rooza, Hajj zakat
jahad-bin-nafs
haqooq-alabad
sach bolna dhooka na daina
waada poora krna
gheebat na krna,
naap tool mein kami na krna,
imaanaton ki hifazat krna,
mazloom ko zulm se bachana,
zulm k khilaf awaz uthana,
insaaf qayem krna.
First we should concentrate on these and then we should come on these matter of secondary importance. I strongly believe that if we implement above mentioned things then rest of the things will get better automatically.
He is rightly complaining about muslim Countries in central asia because it is fact that there is no liberty of doing according to your own belief and religion.
He did not say this right that the muslim in france should not protest against hijab. Mr Hassan nisar should know that there are not only immigrant muslims but there are other muslims as well who are native and born there. where should they go then ??? so this argument of Hassan nisar is very week.
He said right that we see women in pakistan and sometimes we harass them even if they are covered and in hijab but in these countries nobody say them anything because it is so common. But it doesn't mean that our women should become nude or naked. we should not hesitate to accept the reality. we should also not hesitate to accept that even being a muslim we don't try to follow fundamentals of Islam.
We always get ourselves involved in these matters of "parda" and "Daari" which has secondary importance. where are followings:
Toheed Namaz, Rooza, Hajj zakat
jahad-bin-nafs
haqooq-alabad
sach bolna dhooka na daina
waada poora krna
gheebat na krna,
naap tool mein kami na krna,
imaanaton ki hifazat krna,
mazloom ko zulm se bachana,
zulm k khilaf awaz uthana,
insaaf qayem krna.
First we should concentrate on these and then we should come on these matter of secondary importance. I strongly believe that if we implement above mentioned things then rest of the things will get better automatically.
waseemshahzada
Councller (250+ posts)
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Saadbaloch
Senator (1k+ posts)
Yeh Banda kissi time apney aap ko bilkul ko scholor samajhney lagta hai.....
topnotcher
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Islami Ahkaam Parda Darhi Ke Bare Me Hassan Nisar Ke Gustakhana Khayalaat
littlemaster
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Islami Ahkaam Parda Darhi Ke Bare Me Hassan Nisar Ke Gustakhana Khayalaat
who listens to this fake.
who listens to this fake.
Lawangeen
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Islami Ahkaam Parda Darhi Ke Bare Me Hassan Nisar Ke Gustakhana Khayalaat
i haven't watched the show but if its true, he lost his respect atleast in my eyes... aur aurat agar barhana ghoomain ge to aankho mai haya kaha sai ayee gee.??? agar arab culture hai aur aab-o-hawa ki wajah sai zroori hai to abh kyon zyada tar loog nahi pehantai??? is ko koi khajoor ki fazelatain bhi bata dai takai is ko pata chalai kai kyoon sunat hai...
i haven't watched the show but if its true, he lost his respect atleast in my eyes... aur aurat agar barhana ghoomain ge to aankho mai haya kaha sai ayee gee.??? agar arab culture hai aur aab-o-hawa ki wajah sai zroori hai to abh kyon zyada tar loog nahi pehantai??? is ko koi khajoor ki fazelatain bhi bata dai takai is ko pata chalai kai kyoon sunat hai...
modern.fakir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Islami Ahkaam Parda Darhi Ke Bare Me Hassan Nisar Ke Gustakhana Khayalaat
Hes one of the biggest idiots in the world ...an absolute nobody !
Hes one of the biggest idiots in the world ...an absolute nobody !
Pakistani92
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Islami Ahkaam Parda Darhi Ke Bare Me Hassan Nisar Ke Gustakhana Khayalaat
Hassan sahab ka kabhi kabhar dimagh bilkul kharab ho jata hai...
Hassan sahab ka kabhi kabhar dimagh bilkul kharab ho jata hai...
