@woofer .. you are a disgrace to the MQM party. What sort of a derogatory comment is that !!!
Front Line - 26th June 2010 - Imran Khan (Exclusive Rigging Video Clips By Express TV) MUST SEE!
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@woofer .. you are a disgrace to the MQM party. What sort of a derogatory comment is that !!!
karachi
MPA (400+ posts)
An Imran Khan cameo that wasnt
PTI chief Imran Khan. — Photo by AFP
The scene in Lahore has changed totally from what it was in the run-up to the 2008 general election. The Jamaat-i-Islami and Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf had both boycotted the 2008 polls as was initially the intention of the Pakistan Muslim League-N, which was later on persuaded to join the electoral race. Come June 2010 and these three parties were fiercely fighting it out among themselves for a mere Punjab Assembly seat.
It was widely expected that the PML-N will retain the seat which it had won in 2008, only for its candidate to be disqualified two years later for possessing a fake degree. This is how it has turned out but the fact that it was not exactly a runaway victory for the PML-N and more so the use of force by the Shahbaz Sharif government to ensure a win for the party’s candidate Malik Saif-ul-Mulook Khokhar has led to speculation about the fall in the popularity of PML-N and its leaders.
At the same time there are voices which somehow find the reason and the conviction to hail ‘the rise’ of Imran Khan’s PTI as a political force to reckon with in the country, in Punjab or at least in Lahore where Mr Khan belongs and where he runs his prestigious cancer hospital.
Before Imran Khan’s admirers celebrate the promise signified by the large number of votes secured by PTI’s Zaheer Abbas Khokhar in the by-election held in PP-160 on Thursday, they will do well to have a second look at how the constituency politics works and how it worked in this particular case.
Backed by the mighty Punjab administration, the PML-N’s Saif-ul-Mulook Khokhar got more than 27,000 votes in the by-election. He was followed by PTI’s Zaheer Abbas Khokhar who secured more than 19,000 votes and JI’s Jahangir Bara with more than 7,000 votes in an area which includes JI’s headquarters, Mansoora.
For starters it is quite clear that the PML-N was denied some Jamaat votes this time which it had got in 2008 since there was no JI candidate in the run then. Similarly, it can be said with some confidence that in the contest on Thursday, the PTI man benefited from the absence from the race of the Pakistan People’s Party which didn’t field a candidate to honour a commitment with the PML-N.
So what, the PTI supporters would ask, drawing on the old logic which says that a good showing in any election is the result of right alliances with the right people at the right time. In this instance, however, the analysts have to keep in mind two points; one, the shrinking of the once promising PTI from a party calling for national reforms – sometimes revolution – to an outfit that finds it prudent to indulge in conventional constituency politics, and, two, the presence of a strong Biradari factor.
Let’s first discuss point number two. Despite all the party banners and party rallies that had been on display the fight in the PP-160 was also a clash between two groups of the Khokhar clan which wields considerable influence in the area. PTI’s Zaheer Abbas Khokhar represented the political branch of Khokhars which had been defeated by their rival Khokhars in the 2008 polls. Karamat Khokhar, a PPP candidate, had lost the National Assembly seat from the area to a lesser known Afzal Khokhar of the PML-N in 2008. The margin was big – more than 20,000 votes separated the winner from the losing candidate – but still, Karamat managed to poll some 38,000 votes. The same Zaheer Abbas who had a PTI ticket in 2010 was a PPP nominee in the 2002 general election and won the National Assembly seat in a tight contest. He had the support of Karamat Khokhar, his close relative who was barred from standing in the election because back then he didn’t have a BA degree (Karamat got the degree later on and was eligible to contest in 2008.) Now was it a miracle that the same Karamat Khokhar was spotted on Thursday on television accusing the PML-N of rigging the vote against his candidate, Zaheer Abbas?The PTI’s choice of the candidate for PP-160 brings us to discussing point number two in our list. As mentioned earlier, in 2002, Zaheer Abbas Khokhar was an MNA belonging to the PPP. Not too long after that, he joined the ranks of the PPP-Patriots for a place in the team of General Pervez Musharraf. Much as Imran Khan would lambaste the PML-N leaders for their empty cries of revolution and at the same time of rigging the PP-160 election, his own selection has been reminiscent of a leader desperate for small successes built on big compromises.
And this was not the first time Mr Khan was caught attempting a reverse sweep considering his earlier claims that he was different from the lot of politicians we have been blessed with. A few months ago he had chosen a PML-N reject to fight on a PTI ticket from another provincial constituency in Lahore. A while earlier, in a by-election in Rawalpindi, the PTI could do no better than allow an old Jamaat man to fight as its nominee.
Clearly, the PTI’s experiments in constituency politics have been by design. These corroborate the suspicions the party’s leader has generated with his words and lack of action in the political arena right since the launch of his party in the 1990s. The dirty terrain he had to encounter in the PP-160 leaves him with the same old two options. He should return full time to his social work or go the long haul in building a party which is actually different. Cameos don’t work here, skipper.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/an-imran-khan-cameo-that-wasnt-660
PTI chief Imran Khan. — Photo by AFP
The scene in Lahore has changed totally from what it was in the run-up to the 2008 general election. The Jamaat-i-Islami and Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf had both boycotted the 2008 polls as was initially the intention of the Pakistan Muslim League-N, which was later on persuaded to join the electoral race. Come June 2010 and these three parties were fiercely fighting it out among themselves for a mere Punjab Assembly seat.
It was widely expected that the PML-N will retain the seat which it had won in 2008, only for its candidate to be disqualified two years later for possessing a fake degree. This is how it has turned out but the fact that it was not exactly a runaway victory for the PML-N and more so the use of force by the Shahbaz Sharif government to ensure a win for the party’s candidate Malik Saif-ul-Mulook Khokhar has led to speculation about the fall in the popularity of PML-N and its leaders.
At the same time there are voices which somehow find the reason and the conviction to hail ‘the rise’ of Imran Khan’s PTI as a political force to reckon with in the country, in Punjab or at least in Lahore where Mr Khan belongs and where he runs his prestigious cancer hospital.
Before Imran Khan’s admirers celebrate the promise signified by the large number of votes secured by PTI’s Zaheer Abbas Khokhar in the by-election held in PP-160 on Thursday, they will do well to have a second look at how the constituency politics works and how it worked in this particular case.
Backed by the mighty Punjab administration, the PML-N’s Saif-ul-Mulook Khokhar got more than 27,000 votes in the by-election. He was followed by PTI’s Zaheer Abbas Khokhar who secured more than 19,000 votes and JI’s Jahangir Bara with more than 7,000 votes in an area which includes JI’s headquarters, Mansoora.
For starters it is quite clear that the PML-N was denied some Jamaat votes this time which it had got in 2008 since there was no JI candidate in the run then. Similarly, it can be said with some confidence that in the contest on Thursday, the PTI man benefited from the absence from the race of the Pakistan People’s Party which didn’t field a candidate to honour a commitment with the PML-N.
So what, the PTI supporters would ask, drawing on the old logic which says that a good showing in any election is the result of right alliances with the right people at the right time. In this instance, however, the analysts have to keep in mind two points; one, the shrinking of the once promising PTI from a party calling for national reforms – sometimes revolution – to an outfit that finds it prudent to indulge in conventional constituency politics, and, two, the presence of a strong Biradari factor.
Let’s first discuss point number two. Despite all the party banners and party rallies that had been on display the fight in the PP-160 was also a clash between two groups of the Khokhar clan which wields considerable influence in the area. PTI’s Zaheer Abbas Khokhar represented the political branch of Khokhars which had been defeated by their rival Khokhars in the 2008 polls. Karamat Khokhar, a PPP candidate, had lost the National Assembly seat from the area to a lesser known Afzal Khokhar of the PML-N in 2008. The margin was big – more than 20,000 votes separated the winner from the losing candidate – but still, Karamat managed to poll some 38,000 votes. The same Zaheer Abbas who had a PTI ticket in 2010 was a PPP nominee in the 2002 general election and won the National Assembly seat in a tight contest. He had the support of Karamat Khokhar, his close relative who was barred from standing in the election because back then he didn’t have a BA degree (Karamat got the degree later on and was eligible to contest in 2008.) Now was it a miracle that the same Karamat Khokhar was spotted on Thursday on television accusing the PML-N of rigging the vote against his candidate, Zaheer Abbas?The PTI’s choice of the candidate for PP-160 brings us to discussing point number two in our list. As mentioned earlier, in 2002, Zaheer Abbas Khokhar was an MNA belonging to the PPP. Not too long after that, he joined the ranks of the PPP-Patriots for a place in the team of General Pervez Musharraf. Much as Imran Khan would lambaste the PML-N leaders for their empty cries of revolution and at the same time of rigging the PP-160 election, his own selection has been reminiscent of a leader desperate for small successes built on big compromises.
And this was not the first time Mr Khan was caught attempting a reverse sweep considering his earlier claims that he was different from the lot of politicians we have been blessed with. A few months ago he had chosen a PML-N reject to fight on a PTI ticket from another provincial constituency in Lahore. A while earlier, in a by-election in Rawalpindi, the PTI could do no better than allow an old Jamaat man to fight as its nominee.
Clearly, the PTI’s experiments in constituency politics have been by design. These corroborate the suspicions the party’s leader has generated with his words and lack of action in the political arena right since the launch of his party in the 1990s. The dirty terrain he had to encounter in the PP-160 leaves him with the same old two options. He should return full time to his social work or go the long haul in building a party which is actually different. Cameos don’t work here, skipper.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/an-imran-khan-cameo-that-wasnt-660
dagreat123
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Ii somehow agree with the ARTICLE here,he should build a different team,Malik abbas khokar was a typical politician,But i understand the logic of IK,if he would chosen a doctor or another technocrat he would have won from urban areas but FROM RURAL AREAS THE VOTE PTI GT NOW,THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GOTTEN THAT,BECAUSE OF BRADARI POLITICS!!!
sarmad
Senator (1k+ posts)
آزادی صحافت کے دشمنو جمہوریت کے قاتلو آج سے کامران شاہد کو بھی دشمن کہنا
اور لکھنا شروع کر دو
آخر کب تک سچائی اور حق کو روک سکو گے تمہاری نظر میں کبھی ڈاکٹر شاہد ،کبھی
جاوید چوھدری اور کبھی طلعت حسین کانٹا بن جاتے ہیں اور ان کو روکتے ہو تو پھر
کامران شاہد بول پڑتا ہے کس کس کی زبان روکو گے
نواز شریف تمھارے اور تمھارے دوست زداری کی گندی سیاست سے اب سب پردے
اٹھہ گے ہیں اب تبدیلی کا وقت آ پہنچا ہے انقلاب زندہ باد
اور لکھنا شروع کر دو
آخر کب تک سچائی اور حق کو روک سکو گے تمہاری نظر میں کبھی ڈاکٹر شاہد ،کبھی
جاوید چوھدری اور کبھی طلعت حسین کانٹا بن جاتے ہیں اور ان کو روکتے ہو تو پھر
کامران شاہد بول پڑتا ہے کس کس کی زبان روکو گے
نواز شریف تمھارے اور تمھارے دوست زداری کی گندی سیاست سے اب سب پردے
اٹھہ گے ہیں اب تبدیلی کا وقت آ پہنچا ہے انقلاب زندہ باد
Nawazish
Minister (2k+ posts)
سب چور ہیں ہاں سب چور ہیں میں کہتا ہوں اور مانتا ہوں کہ سب چور ہیں میں بھی چور ہوں اور تم بھی چور ہو
بی بی تو مر گیی پر زرداری کو پیچھے چھوڑر گیی اس سے بڑا چور اور کون ہو گا پر نواز شریف کون سا کم ہے یہ چوری نہیں کرتا کیا ؟؟؟ لیکن یہ تو سیاسی لوگ ہیں .. یہ جرنیل کیا کرتے ہیں جو عسکری تنظیموں میں کمیشن کھاتے ہیں اور میسوں سے آٹا چوری کرنے والے فوجی کیا ہیں .. وہ چور نہیں ہیں ؟؟
سب چور ہیں جو مارشل لا لگاتے ہیں اور وہ جو اس کی حمایت کرتے ہیں وہ چور نہیں ڈاکو ہیں ..
اے این پی والے تو درخت چوری کرتے ہیں لیکن ایم قیو ایم والے تو انسانوں سے زندگیاں چھین لیتےہیں .. تو جمیعت والے کیا کرتے ہیں انہوں نے ہمارے اساتذہ کی عزت اور ہمارے طلبہ سے کتابیں چھین لی ہیں وہ چور نہیں ہیں ؟
پر یہ تو سیاسی لوگ ہیں اور .. ان کے بچے ہیں آپ اور ہم تو عام لوگ ہیں ناں .. عام لوگ کیا کرتے ہیں .. کیا دودھ میں پانی نواز شریف ملاتا ہے .. یا مرچوں میں اینٹیں پیس کر زرداری ڈالتا ہے . جعلی ادویات کون بیچتا ہے .. اور چور سے رشوت کون لیتا ہے کیا یہ آپ اور میں نہیں کیا کہا نہیں..؟؟ اچھا تو یہ بتایں کہ دفتروں میں کام چوری کون کرتا ہے .. کمپیوٹر پر دفتری اوقات میں اخبار کون پڑھتا ہے اور پی کے پولیٹکس پر کومینٹس کون دیتا ہے کیا یہ چوری نہیں کیا دفتر کے سامان کو ذاتی استمال میں لانا چوری نہیں ؟؟؟؟
کیا کہا آپ نے کے یہ چھوٹی چوری ہے اور وہ بڑی چوریاں ہیں .. واہ جی واہ .. آپ کا جتنا ہاتھ پڑتا تھا آپ نے اتنی چوری کر لی ان کا جتنا پڑتا ہے وہ کرتے ہیں .. چور تو چور ہوتا ہے اس کے ہاتھ جو لگتا ہے چرا لیتا ہے .. پر ہم سب بڑے بے ضمیر چور ہیں .. اپنی چوری کی پرواہ ہی نہیں اور دوسروں کی غیبت پر قمر بستہ ہیں
آپ اپنے ایمان سے بتاییں آپ نے جو اتنی جعلی آی ڈیز بنا رکھی ہیں اور لوگوں کو دھوکہ دیتے ہیں .. شریف لوگوں کا دل دکھاتے ہیں اور غلط باتیں پھیلاتے ہیں اچھے خاصے مسلمانوں کو قادیانی کہتے ہیں .. یہ کیا ہے ؟؟؟ چوری نہیں ہے یہ ؟؟ یہ چوری سے تو بڑا ہی گناہ ہے .. تو پھر .. چوروں پر اتنا غصّہ کیوں .. اپنے گریبان میں بھی تو جھانک اے دنیا کے عظیم متقی مسلمان
الله تجھ پر رحیم فرماے پتا نہیں کس بات کی سزا کاٹ رہا ہے تو
بی بی تو مر گیی پر زرداری کو پیچھے چھوڑر گیی اس سے بڑا چور اور کون ہو گا پر نواز شریف کون سا کم ہے یہ چوری نہیں کرتا کیا ؟؟؟ لیکن یہ تو سیاسی لوگ ہیں .. یہ جرنیل کیا کرتے ہیں جو عسکری تنظیموں میں کمیشن کھاتے ہیں اور میسوں سے آٹا چوری کرنے والے فوجی کیا ہیں .. وہ چور نہیں ہیں ؟؟
سب چور ہیں جو مارشل لا لگاتے ہیں اور وہ جو اس کی حمایت کرتے ہیں وہ چور نہیں ڈاکو ہیں ..
اے این پی والے تو درخت چوری کرتے ہیں لیکن ایم قیو ایم والے تو انسانوں سے زندگیاں چھین لیتےہیں .. تو جمیعت والے کیا کرتے ہیں انہوں نے ہمارے اساتذہ کی عزت اور ہمارے طلبہ سے کتابیں چھین لی ہیں وہ چور نہیں ہیں ؟
پر یہ تو سیاسی لوگ ہیں اور .. ان کے بچے ہیں آپ اور ہم تو عام لوگ ہیں ناں .. عام لوگ کیا کرتے ہیں .. کیا دودھ میں پانی نواز شریف ملاتا ہے .. یا مرچوں میں اینٹیں پیس کر زرداری ڈالتا ہے . جعلی ادویات کون بیچتا ہے .. اور چور سے رشوت کون لیتا ہے کیا یہ آپ اور میں نہیں کیا کہا نہیں..؟؟ اچھا تو یہ بتایں کہ دفتروں میں کام چوری کون کرتا ہے .. کمپیوٹر پر دفتری اوقات میں اخبار کون پڑھتا ہے اور پی کے پولیٹکس پر کومینٹس کون دیتا ہے کیا یہ چوری نہیں کیا دفتر کے سامان کو ذاتی استمال میں لانا چوری نہیں ؟؟؟؟
کیا کہا آپ نے کے یہ چھوٹی چوری ہے اور وہ بڑی چوریاں ہیں .. واہ جی واہ .. آپ کا جتنا ہاتھ پڑتا تھا آپ نے اتنی چوری کر لی ان کا جتنا پڑتا ہے وہ کرتے ہیں .. چور تو چور ہوتا ہے اس کے ہاتھ جو لگتا ہے چرا لیتا ہے .. پر ہم سب بڑے بے ضمیر چور ہیں .. اپنی چوری کی پرواہ ہی نہیں اور دوسروں کی غیبت پر قمر بستہ ہیں
آپ اپنے ایمان سے بتاییں آپ نے جو اتنی جعلی آی ڈیز بنا رکھی ہیں اور لوگوں کو دھوکہ دیتے ہیں .. شریف لوگوں کا دل دکھاتے ہیں اور غلط باتیں پھیلاتے ہیں اچھے خاصے مسلمانوں کو قادیانی کہتے ہیں .. یہ کیا ہے ؟؟؟ چوری نہیں ہے یہ ؟؟ یہ چوری سے تو بڑا ہی گناہ ہے .. تو پھر .. چوروں پر اتنا غصّہ کیوں .. اپنے گریبان میں بھی تو جھانک اے دنیا کے عظیم متقی مسلمان
الله تجھ پر رحیم فرماے پتا نہیں کس بات کی سزا کاٹ رہا ہے تو
Great job by media! It was on cards for PTI that it has to face this all one by one to defeat staus quo. We have independent media, independent judiciary and now we will struggle for independent election commission and defeat this undemocratic mindset of so called democratic leaders of family owned political parties.
zardarifan
MPA (400+ posts)
storm in a cup of tea
what a foolish anchor
he was showing his “muthhi” like he was having atomic bomb in there
such stamps you can get from every street of urdu bazar lahore
they are issuing them on daily basis for any purpose
and you cant put this stamp on your cheek or anywhere else
its used only on ballot paper which is issued to each voter individually on election day in the presene of polling agents of both parties
and bear in mind voting boxes are transparent nowadays they cant be pre filled
everyone is in the effort of being hero here
nonsense
kamran shahid you are also behaving like asma ch
no substance for the programme,just shooting in the air
once you wrote in your column that you have been teaching in a college so that was a good profession for you
and IK telling lies infront of camera saying
he lost by 5000-6000 votes
but in real he lost by 8000-9000 votes
and out of 18000 votes actual PTI’s vote is only 3000-4000 like always
other votes contributed by PPP underhand
but he will never admit his wrong doings and shortcomings
rather will do “aain baain shaain”
and all you guys what has happened to you
do you think if that “patwari” was not there
PTI candidate would have won?
don’t be so stupid
IK whenever will get a seat it will be from mianwali not from lahore and larkana
dont forget that the one seat he got in 14 years was a gift from musharaf
and its not gonna happen again in near future
dont live in fool’s paradise
and IK dont cry for justice
first give justice to sita white and tyrian white
“charity begins at home”
character wise you also stand nowhere like other leaders
you have never said apologies to the nation for your past
first admit your fault otherwise you are also another jamshed dasti of this nation
pakistani people are really stupid,jahil and janglee
who are demanding votes for characterless persons
what a foolish anchor
he was showing his “muthhi” like he was having atomic bomb in there
such stamps you can get from every street of urdu bazar lahore
they are issuing them on daily basis for any purpose
and you cant put this stamp on your cheek or anywhere else
its used only on ballot paper which is issued to each voter individually on election day in the presene of polling agents of both parties
and bear in mind voting boxes are transparent nowadays they cant be pre filled
everyone is in the effort of being hero here
nonsense
kamran shahid you are also behaving like asma ch
no substance for the programme,just shooting in the air
once you wrote in your column that you have been teaching in a college so that was a good profession for you
and IK telling lies infront of camera saying
he lost by 5000-6000 votes
but in real he lost by 8000-9000 votes
and out of 18000 votes actual PTI’s vote is only 3000-4000 like always
other votes contributed by PPP underhand
but he will never admit his wrong doings and shortcomings
rather will do “aain baain shaain”
and all you guys what has happened to you
do you think if that “patwari” was not there
PTI candidate would have won?
don’t be so stupid
IK whenever will get a seat it will be from mianwali not from lahore and larkana
dont forget that the one seat he got in 14 years was a gift from musharaf
and its not gonna happen again in near future
dont live in fool’s paradise
and IK dont cry for justice
first give justice to sita white and tyrian white
“charity begins at home”
character wise you also stand nowhere like other leaders
you have never said apologies to the nation for your past
first admit your fault otherwise you are also another jamshed dasti of this nation
pakistani people are really stupid,jahil and janglee
who are demanding votes for characterless persons
GeoG
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ تلوے چاٹنے کا شرف صرف اور صرف تمہیں ہی حاصل رہے گا
پہلے آرمی پھر بی بی پھر نواز پھر آرمی پھر بی بی اور تمہاری للچائی نظر نواز کے تلووں پر
raju
Senator (1k+ posts)
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
lol, C'm on MQM is waiting.. But Plz win a single Seat hahaha
that is why i say, Imran khan is NALAY-eK , he should know reality of election rigging in pakistan ,
so my question always to IK is, what plan or tactic has he got to counter this tand-ali , answer is NIL,
he is waiting for media and supreme court to do the job for him,
so my question always to IK is, what plan or tactic has he got to counter this tand-ali , answer is NIL,
he is waiting for media and supreme court to do the job for him,
imemyself89
MPA (400+ posts)
he is an educated leader with intellectual followers. Unlike some political parties, he cant go out on the street with a gun in his hand. That is against his policy.
hawk eyed
MPA (400+ posts)
yar imran nai jata bhigoron k pas....vo qatil jo mulk chor k bhaga hua hai doob mernay ka mqam hai tum usay support krte ho jo pakistani b nai!mrasi......actor........singer.....hahaha bht talented hai infact INSHALLAH imran will b successful in d long run just wait for a few years...
manahalali
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
so are you saying that his intellect is LTD , he can't work out a formula to over-come this hurdle ?
if he can't than why is he fooling and defrauding young people , talking about inqlab and changing pakistan ?
dagreat123
Siasat.pk - Blogger
@Ahmed problem with people like you is you don't like to go in depth,to stop rigging he is telling the fact that he would go to supreme court plus he is proposing a new system of Electoral polling through Nadra ID CARDS which are computerized and are in records of NADRA,but to implement this system ELECTION COMMISION SHOULD BE FREED,AND BE INDEPENDENT LIKE INDIA,so to acheive that purpose he is in contact with EC and if they don't reply positively would go to SUPREME COURT.
Sir IK kay dusman bhee mantay hain woh jo kehta hai kar kay dikhata hai.!!
Sir IK kay dusman bhee mantay hain woh jo kehta hai kar kay dikhata hai.!!
look at dagreat123's answer. Was that too difficult to understand? Coz IK said the exact same thing in the program.
