Four Questions For Our Shia Friends By A Sunni

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Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There are the 4 questions, which bother me about Shia and I am unable to find the answers.

I would like any Shia to respond to these 4 questions.


Responding to questions with questions will not help. Also responding with abuse would mean Shia’s don’t have the answer, because when one resort to abuse, it means one doesn’t have the answer.



Here are my 4 questions :

Every Shia believes that When Prophet Muhammad PBUH went to Miraj and spoke to Allah , he heard Hazrat Ali voice .

Watch this video here




Question 1: Is this not Shirk to say Allah speaks in Hazrat Ali voice?



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Most of the Sunni will want to use either Allah or Muhammad PBUH as their portfolio on social media. A small minority may use Sahaba names. BUT

Most of the Shia use Hazrat Ali or Imam Hussain name for their portfolio, only a minority may use Allah or prophet Muhammad PBUH.


Question 2: Is Hazrat Ali or Hazrat Imam Hussain more respectable than Allah and Prophet Muhammad, if not then why ignoring them , and preferring Hazrat Ali name . Why not Allah or Prophet Muhammad name in the portfolio used by the majority?




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We seek help from Allah who doesn’t need help. He is all-powerful . In every rakaat of namaaz we recite surah Fatiha in which Allah taught us to ask only from him.

But Shia seek help from Hazrat Ali by saying Yah-Ali, who was NOT ALL powerful like Allah, I will show you here.

Hazrat Ali was martyred by Abd al-Rahman. Hazrat Ali died two days later on 21 Ramadan .

He was in deep agony for two days because of the wounds before he passed away. Surrounded by his closest family members Hazrat Ali (a.s) in one of his last wills said; “Until yesterday I was your Ameer (leader), today I am only an object from whom you can take lessons and warnings, and tomorrow I shall part company with you”.

He could not help himself when he was in deep pain, so how could he help anyone today ? Also Shias believe (It is a Shia belief not mine) that when Hazrat Fatima was attacked by Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Ali could not help her because Hazrat Abu bakar was in power , he was a Khalifa. So Hazrat Ali was helpless when Hazrat Fatima was martyred by Hazrat Umar (Shia belief not mine) . Don’t you think he should have saved her? He could not save her.


Question 3: Why do Shias seek help from someone who could not help his wife from being martyred and could not help himself when he was attacked ? How can he help them today ? Isn’t it better to instead ask help from Allah only who is present everywhere and who is ALL POWERFUL.



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Shias believe Prophet Muhammad demise was not natural but he was martyred . surprisingly they do not mourn prophet Muhammad martyrdom, but they mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom .

Question 4: If Prophet Muhammad PBUH is more respected and more important than Hazrat Imam Hussain for every Muslim then why Shia mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom but ignore Prophet Muhamad martyrdom, doesn’t that prove Shias love Hazrat Imam Hussain more than Prophet Muhammad PBUH ?




I asked Shias these 4 questions because it looks as if Shias's worship Hazrat Ali not Almighty Allah. respond to my above 4 questions and prove me wrong.
 

sequencers

MPA (400+ posts)
There are the 4 questions, which bother me about Shia and I am unable to find the answers.

I would like any Shia to respond to these 4 questions.


Responding to questions with questions will not help. Also responding with abuse would mean Shia’s don’t have the answer, because when one resort to abuse, it means one doesn’t have the answer.



Here are my 4 questions :

Every Shia believes that When Prophet Muhammad PBUH went to Miraj and spoke to Allah , he heard Hazrat Ali voice .

Watch this video here




Question 1: Is this not Shirk to say Allah speaks in Hazrat Ali voice?



NEXT



Most of the Sunni will want to use either Allah or Muhammad PBUH as their portfolio on social media. A small minority may use Sahaba names. BUT

Most of the Shia use Hazrat Ali or Imam Hussain name for their portfolio, only a minority may use Allah or prophet Muhammad PBUH.


Question 2: Is Hazrat Ali or Hazrat Imam Hussain more respectable than Allah and Prophet Muhammad, if not then why ignoring them , and preferring Hazrat Ali name . Why not Allah or Prophet Muhammad name in the portfolio used by the majority?




NEXT


We seek help from Allah who doesn’t need help. He is all-powerful . In every rakaat of namaaz we recite surah Fatiha in which Allah taught us to ask only from him.

But Shia seek help from Hazrat Ali by saying Yah-Ali, who was NOT ALL powerful like Allah, I will show you here.

Hazrat Ali was martyred by Abd al-Rahman. Hazrat Ali died two days later on 21 Ramadan .

He was in deep agony for two days because of the wounds before he passed away. Surrounded by his closest family members Hazrat Ali (a.s) in one of his last wills said; “Until yesterday I was your Ameer (leader), today I am only an object from whom you can take lessons and warnings, and tomorrow I shall part company with you”.

He could not help himself when he was in deep pain, so how could he help anyone today ? Also Shias believe (It is a Shia belief not mine) that when Hazrat Fatima was attacked by Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Ali could not help her because Hazrat Abu bakar was in power , he was a Khalifa. So Hazrat Ali was helpless when Hazrat Fatima was martyred by Hazrat Umar (Shia belief not mine) . Don’t you think he should have saved her? He could not save her.


Question 3: Why do Shias seek help from someone who could not help his wife from being martyred and could not help himself when he was attacked ? How can he help them today ? Isn’t it better to instead ask help from Allah only who is present everywhere and who is ALL POWERFUL.



NEXT


Shias believe Prophet Muhammad demise was not natural but he was martyred . surprisingly they do not mourn prophet Muhammad martyrdom, but they mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom .

Question 4: If Prophet Muhammad PBUH is more respected and more important than Hazrat Imam Hussain for every Muslim then why Shia mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom but ignore Prophet Muhamad martyrdom, doesn’t that prove Shias love Hazrat Imam Hussain more than Prophet Muhammad PBUH ?




I asked Shias these 4 questions because it looks as if Shias's worship Hazrat Ali not Almighty Allah. respond to my above 4 questions and prove me wrong.
If you want the companions and the wives of the Prophet to be cursed and sworn at by them then carry on with this thread. There's no use to engage in a discussion with them. You will be disappointed. It's better to let them believe whatever they like. Those who want the truth will find it if Allah is on their side.
 

sequencers

MPA (400+ posts)
I asked Shias these 4 questions because it looks as if Shias's worship Hazrat Ali not Almighty Allah. respond to my above 4 questions and prove me wrong.
I don't think all shias are alike, not all sunis are alike too. There are sane and insane people in all groups. So don't generalise that all shias are like that.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If you want the companions and the wives of the Prophet to be cursed and sworn at by them then carry on with this thread. There's no use to engage in a discussion with them. You will be disappointed. It's better to let them believe whatever they like. Those who want the truth will find it if Allah is on their side.
If I ask them questions about their faith and they abuse Sahaba then how am I a sinner?
whoever abuses such personalities will be punished by Allah. you could have blamed me if I had abused someone they admire.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't think all shias are alike, not all sunis are alike too. There are sane and insane people in all groups. So don't generalise that all shias are like that.
Then they could say that the questions I posed are nor believed by all Shias. By the way the questions I posed are believed by almost all the SHIA community.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why not ask your RSS Bhagwan Surrender Feku Modi..."Why Dalits can not enter in an ordinary Temple...Why they can not drink from the same water well"
You fuckin "GoMutra- Gobar" addict...hindu stani
troll ?
These questions are posed only for Shias not to Hindus, so stay away from this thread. Everyone knows RATAN is a Hindu name. you yourself is a Hindu, . otherwise why would you use a Hindu name ?
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There are the 4 questions, which bother me about Shia and I am unable to find the answers.

I would like any Shia to respond to these 4 questions.


Responding to questions with questions will not help. Also responding with abuse would mean Shia’s don’t have the answer, because when one resort to abuse, it means one doesn’t have the answer.



Here are my 4 questions :

Every Shia believes that When Prophet Muhammad PBUH went to Miraj and spoke to Allah , he heard Hazrat Ali voice .

Watch this video here




Question 1: Is this not Shirk to say Allah speaks in Hazrat Ali voice?



NEXT



Most of the Sunni will want to use either Allah or Muhammad PBUH as their portfolio on social media. A small minority may use Sahaba names. BUT

Most of the Shia use Hazrat Ali or Imam Hussain name for their portfolio, only a minority may use Allah or prophet Muhammad PBUH.


Question 2: Is Hazrat Ali or Hazrat Imam Hussain more respectable than Allah and Prophet Muhammad, if not then why ignoring them , and preferring Hazrat Ali name . Why not Allah or Prophet Muhammad name in the portfolio used by the majority?




NEXT


We seek help from Allah who doesn’t need help. He is all-powerful . In every rakaat of namaaz we recite surah Fatiha in which Allah taught us to ask only from him.

But Shia seek help from Hazrat Ali by saying Yah-Ali, who was NOT ALL powerful like Allah, I will show you here.

Hazrat Ali was martyred by Abd al-Rahman. Hazrat Ali died two days later on 21 Ramadan .

He was in deep agony for two days because of the wounds before he passed away. Surrounded by his closest family members Hazrat Ali (a.s) in one of his last wills said; “Until yesterday I was your Ameer (leader), today I am only an object from whom you can take lessons and warnings, and tomorrow I shall part company with you”.

He could not help himself when he was in deep pain, so how could he help anyone today ? Also Shias believe (It is a Shia belief not mine) that when Hazrat Fatima was attacked by Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Ali could not help her because Hazrat Abu bakar was in power , he was a Khalifa. So Hazrat Ali was helpless when Hazrat Fatima was martyred by Hazrat Umar (Shia belief not mine) . Don’t you think he should have saved her? He could not save her.


Question 3: Why do Shias seek help from someone who could not help his wife from being martyred and could not help himself when he was attacked ? How can he help them today ? Isn’t it better to instead ask help from Allah only who is present everywhere and who is ALL POWERFUL.



NEXT


Shias believe Prophet Muhammad demise was not natural but he was martyred . surprisingly they do not mourn prophet Muhammad martyrdom, but they mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom .

Question 4: If Prophet Muhammad PBUH is more respected and more important than Hazrat Imam Hussain for every Muslim then why Shia mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom but ignore Prophet Muhamad martyrdom, doesn’t that prove Shias love Hazrat Imam Hussain more than Prophet Muhammad PBUH ?




I asked Shias these 4 questions because it looks as if Shias's worship Hazrat Ali not Almighty Allah. respond to my above 4 questions and prove me wrong.
As a sunni,I find your obsession with Shias unhealthy. Either you are a troll from India creating trouble as part of your desperate attempt to destabilise PK or your an arse hole that enjoys conflict
 

sequencers

MPA (400+ posts)
If I ask them questions about their faith and they abuse Sahaba then how am I a sinner?
whoever abuses such personalities will be punished by Allah. you could have blamed me if I had abused someone they admire.
Well, they have been cursing the companions and Aisha r.a for centuries, and you can't stop them. It's wise to put them on ignore. Let them do whatever they like. Allah will decide their matter.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You did not get me. I was saying that this 'Ratan Bai' is a Charsi. He/she always talks nonsense. Typical youtia.
So Sorry. Please accept my apology. I deleted the comment. I feel so embarrassed, you are a person of high calibre who did not get offended by my comments and corrected me.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
As a sunni,I find your obsession with Shias unhealthy. Either you are a troll from India creating trouble as part of your desperate attempt to destabilise PK or your an arse hole that enjoys conflict
where were you when Haideriam was abusing my Sahabas a while ago on this siasat.pk. Now you came worried about Imran Khan's government. I would not have started this questions if he had not abused my Sahabas on this website. Stay away from my thread.
 
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sequencers

MPA (400+ posts)
where were you when Haidree was abusing my Sahabas a while ago on this siasat.pk. Now you came worried about Imran Khan's government. I would not have started this questions if he had not abused my Sahabas on this website. Stay away from my thread.
That's why its better not to talk to them on religion. You won't have peace if you do it. You may request them not to hurt your religious sentiments also. It's wise not ask them such questions which will make them angry and they will do what they do.

One of them will criticise companions, or your scholars and you will get angry too.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That's why its better not to talk to them on religion. You won't have peace if you do it. You may request them not to hurt your religious sentiments also. It's wise not ask them such questions which will make them angry and they will do what they do.

One of them will criticise companions, or your scholars and you will get angry too.
They asked me questions first .
I only responded. Add here my own Sunni have come to abuse me. You will not see Shia doing to other Shias. I did not abuse anyone. I asked valid questions. . .
 

RealPeople

Minister (2k+ posts)
There are the 4 questions, which bother me about Shia and I am unable to find the answers.

I would like any Shia to respond to these 4 questions.


Responding to questions with questions will not help. Also responding with abuse would mean Shia’s don’t have the answer, because when one resort to abuse, it means one doesn’t have the answer.



Here are my 4 questions :

Every Shia believes that When Prophet Muhammad PBUH went to Miraj and spoke to Allah , he heard Hazrat Ali voice .

Watch this video here




Question 1: Is this not Shirk to say Allah speaks in Hazrat Ali voice?



NEXT



Most of the Sunni will want to use either Allah or Muhammad PBUH as their portfolio on social media. A small minority may use Sahaba names. BUT

Most of the Shia use Hazrat Ali or Imam Hussain name for their portfolio, only a minority may use Allah or prophet Muhammad PBUH.


Question 2: Is Hazrat Ali or Hazrat Imam Hussain more respectable than Allah and Prophet Muhammad, if not then why ignoring them , and preferring Hazrat Ali name . Why not Allah or Prophet Muhammad name in the portfolio used by the majority?




NEXT


We seek help from Allah who doesn’t need help. He is all-powerful . In every rakaat of namaaz we recite surah Fatiha in which Allah taught us to ask only from him.

But Shia seek help from Hazrat Ali by saying Yah-Ali, who was NOT ALL powerful like Allah, I will show you here.

Hazrat Ali was martyred by Abd al-Rahman. Hazrat Ali died two days later on 21 Ramadan .

He was in deep agony for two days because of the wounds before he passed away. Surrounded by his closest family members Hazrat Ali (a.s) in one of his last wills said; “Until yesterday I was your Ameer (leader), today I am only an object from whom you can take lessons and warnings, and tomorrow I shall part company with you”.

He could not help himself when he was in deep pain, so how could he help anyone today ? Also Shias believe (It is a Shia belief not mine) that when Hazrat Fatima was attacked by Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Ali could not help her because Hazrat Abu bakar was in power , he was a Khalifa. So Hazrat Ali was helpless when Hazrat Fatima was martyred by Hazrat Umar (Shia belief not mine) . Don’t you think he should have saved her? He could not save her.


Question 3: Why do Shias seek help from someone who could not help his wife from being martyred and could not help himself when he was attacked ? How can he help them today ? Isn’t it better to instead ask help from Allah only who is present everywhere and who is ALL POWERFUL.



NEXT


Shias believe Prophet Muhammad demise was not natural but he was martyred . surprisingly they do not mourn prophet Muhammad martyrdom, but they mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom .

Question 4: If Prophet Muhammad PBUH is more respected and more important than Hazrat Imam Hussain for every Muslim then why Shia mourn Hazrat Imam Hussain martyrdom but ignore Prophet Muhamad martyrdom, doesn’t that prove Shias love Hazrat Imam Hussain more than Prophet Muhammad PBUH ?




I asked Shias these 4 questions because it looks as if Shias's worship Hazrat Ali not Almighty Allah. respond to my above 4 questions and prove me wrong.

SMART ASS, i am a Shia. None of what you claim to be beliefs of shia are true or factual!
You definitely have an agenda otherwise you would NOT be raising shia- related posts every day
I have reported you to admin before and will do it again today.

You are raising questions based on limited knowledge. You are immature and will NOT be able to understand philosophy of meesgae or context of what you believe are genuine questions.

SHIAS and i respect all humans, prophets, and message of peace. I do not condone or accept any radical beliefs or comments.

NOW GET A LIFE!
 

sequencers

MPA (400+ posts)
They asked me questions first .
I only responded. Add here my own Sunni have come to abuse me. You will not see Shia doing to other Shias. I did not abuse anyone. I asked valid questions. . .
They are not sunnis, there are many of them atheists, mirzais who support shias against you.

And let me tell you that there are many sunnis too who hold deviant ideas. So are you going to argue with them also? Leave people alone, don't discuss religion with them.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
SMART ASS, i am a Shia. None of what you claim to be beliefs of shia are true or factual!
You definitely have an agenda otherwise you would NOT be raising shia- related posts every day
I have reported you to admin before and will do it again today.

You are raising questions based on limited knowledge. You are immature and will NOT be able to understand philosophy of meesgae or context of what you believe are genuine questions.

SHIAS and i respect all humans, prophets, and message of peace. I do not condone or accept any radical beliefs or comments.

NOW GET A LIFE!
This is the first Shia response. I think last time I told you that you don't even know about your faith. By the way did you report to Admin when one of your buddies "
Haideriam "was abusing my sahabas a while ago here. Can't handle the response then don't start.
 
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