For Those who say Qaud-e-Azam was Secular

jimz84 · Sep 4, 2011

qasi · Sep 4, 2011

Allah apko Jaza Dee Bhai bohat bohat bohat zaida sukereyaa yee share kerney k liyee

jimz84 · Sep 4, 2011

qasi said:
Allah apko Jaza Dee Bhai bohat bohat bohat zaida sukereyaa yee share kerney k liyee

thnx brother....hope people will learn something out of it...

hans · Sep 4, 2011

Can any one provide any original documentation link to what is been publish in the original post. For example trying to connect Jinnah Grand father accepting Islam... on the hand of One Mr. Hazrat Abdul Razak Gilani.

Gilani are Sunni, while Jinnah and his father were Shia, Jinnah him self was a Shia...where is the connection?

Ok here is a clue for you ..... Do you know Full name of Jinnah Parents....?
Jinnah was the first child born to Mithibai and Jinnahbhai Poonja. Jinnah's family belonged to the Ismaili Khoja branch of Shi'a Islam,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_Jinnah#cite_note-secularm-0

The Post contain no solid reference, putting in a few photos and a few vague reference does not make a post authentic Historical reference.

Other reference that need to establish is how good was Jinnah Shahib able to Read Arabic. Now this is an eye opener.

[FONT=&quot]Jinnah definitely was a secularist who viewed Islam as an instrument of identity formation and political mobilization for the Muslims of South Asia. Whenever he talked of Islam, he also talked about the modern notion of the state, constitutionalism, civil and political rights and equal citizenship irrespective of religion or any other consideration. This means that he was neither for a religious or orthodox Islamic state nor for a secular system in the classical Marxist terms. His view was that Pakistan would be a modern, democratic state which derives its ethical formation from Islam.[/FONT]

mrbaig · Sep 4, 2011

اس سے پہلے میں نے کبھی اتنی جھوٹی اور بکواس پوسٹ نہیں دیکھی۔بے غیرتی کی انتہا ہے کہ ایک ایسے شخص کو جو پیشاب کرکے استنجا بھی نہ کرتا ہو،رحمت الللہ الیہ لکھا جارہا ہے۔تاریخ کی ایسی تیسی کرنا کوئی ہم سے سیکھے کہ ہم کہانیاں گھڑنے میں اپنا ثانی نہیں رکھتے

samar · Sep 4, 2011

mrbaig said:
اس سے پہلے میں نے کبھی اتنی جھوٹی اور بکواس پوسٹ نہیں دیکھی۔بے غیرتی کی انتہا ہے کہ ایک ایسے شخص کو جو پیشاب کرکے استنجا بھی نہ کرتا ہو،رحمت الللہ الیہ لکھا جارہا ہے۔تاریخ کی ایسی تیسی کرنا کوئی ہم سے سیکھے کہ ہم کہانیاں گھڑنے میں اپنا ثانی نہیں رکھتے

aap to isterha keh rahey hoo jesey aap Qaid e Azam k underwear me rehaish pazeer they.

Ridda · Sep 4, 2011

tnx 4 sharing

samar · Sep 4, 2011

hans said:
Can any one provide any original documentation link to what is been publish in the original post. For example trying to connect Jinnah Grand father accepting Islam... on the hand of One Mr. Hazrat Abdul Razak Gilani.

Gilani are Sunni, while Jinnah and his father were Shia, Jinnah him self was a Shia...where is the connection?

Ok here is a clue for you ..... Do you know Full name of Jinnah Parents....?
Jinnah was the first child born to Mithibai and Jinnahbhai Poonja. Jinnah's family belonged to the Ismaili Khoja branch of Shi'a Islam,

The Post contain no solid reference, putting in a few photos and a few vague reference does not make a post authentic Historical reference.

Other reference that need to establish is how good was Jinnah Shahib able to Read Arabic. Now this is an eye opener.

[FONT=&amp]Jinnah definitely was a secularist who viewed Islam as an instrument of identity formation and political mobilization for the Muslims of South Asia. Whenever he talked of Islam, he also talked about the modern notion of the state, constitutionalism, civil and political rights and equal citizenship irrespective of religion or any other consideration. This means that he was neither for a religious or orthodox Islamic state nor for a secular system in the classical Marxist terms. His view was that Pakistan would be a modern, democratic state which derives its ethical formation from Islam.[/FONT]

Listen to it clearly and stop spreading evil propaganda.....................

Its clearly written in the thread that he acquired translations of Quran in English................read before commenting.

References are mentioned ..............

Mughal1 · Sep 4, 2011

Mughal1 · Sep 4, 2011

If you must debate about jinnah, two nation theory, pakistan, islam, quran, deen, mazhab, secularism etc please first learn about these thing in their context. Otherwise no point in wasting time in fighting over bits that make no sense at all on their own because there is no context or perspective there to see things in their full picture.

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