For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing By Adnan Khalid Rasool

Qureshi1975

Banned
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If you are using any social media platform, you have probably come across the PTI troll.


In most cases they make emotional arguments, repeating the same things posted on the PTI website or (worse still) basing arguments on the statements of their great leader.

Frankly, I am quite tired of listening to the same arguments over and over again. So to escape the same buzzwords, I decided to help them out by writing a playbook for those senselessly bashing the Sharifs.
I am laying out three good arguments that can be made by anyone who hates PML-N and not look like a fool while doing so.


1. The laptop issue

When PTI supporters argue this, they start by quoting random figures they pull out of thin air. When they are asked to substantiate them, they start finding sources and often end up finding them from Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s own website. Attacking someone (like the PML-N) who has the facts and figures on their website makes one look like a fool.
The next mistake is arguing about the state of education in Punjab in general. This is a bad path to go down and a pointless one too because it’s not related to laptops and every major international institution heaps praises on Punjab.


The correct way of arguing this is to raise the following questions:
What should be done with the laptop?

Is it for typing only?

What about internet access? Will the government provide Wi-Fi to the whole of Punjab?

If the government is not providing a free internet connection, what is the purpose of the laptop scheme? Also, how are people going to print stuff if the need arises? Does the Punjab government plan to give printers soon? In essence, giving someone a laptop is like giving them a car engine; it’s crucial but it requires other things to allow proper usage.

2. The health care issue


Most PTI supporters do not know how to go about arguing this.
They normally watch a few clips of Dunya or Express TV and start acting as if they know everything. In addition to this, they would also simply repeat their great leader’s words and refer to Shahbaz Sharif and Nawaz Sharif as the “dengue brothers”.

Calling them names is childish and immature. This is something the Khan supporters and their leader do not understand. What is worse is that using names like this in arguments makes the whole argument weak.

The correct way of doing this is by raising questions like:
Why does all health care attention only focus on central Punjab?

How come the state of the health care institutions in northern Punjab is so bad? What about southern Punjab?

Why does the government keep giving in to doctors and their demands when everyone knows that they are not right? If there is good governance, why isn’t there a proper website or a public platform that lists all the medicines that are available through the government? Why is the Punjab government randomly approving more medical colleges in the province when they could easily be expanding the existing ones? Why is money being wasted on projects that cannot be replicated across Punjab?
Each one of these questions is a strong one, it requires a detailed answer and in most cases that answer does not exist. If these were being used in an argument, it would genuinely make sense and create impact.


3. The infrastructure projects


Again in this regard, PTI supporters really do not know what to say. They just attack the costs of the projects – which is good to make a splash – but is quite pointless.


Attacks on cost of a certain project or the idea that it is for personal benefit are unintelligent. So instead of doing that, here are questions that would genuinely have an impact and create a solid argument:

How come most of the budget for Punjab’s development gets spent in Lahore?

Is it the government of Punjab or government of central Punjab? Because the way things are it looks like the latter.

Why do all infrastructure projects in the province keep getting tendered to the NLC without any open tenders?

Why is that a year before the elections, the PML N government has dug up nearly all major cities of Punjab? Were they sleeping for four years that they did not realise that development projects had to be done?
Why did the Punjab government cancel the Lahore Mass Transit System that was being initiated by the previous government, even though it was a great system and could have changed Lahore forever?

Why is the new bus service that is supposed to run on Ferozepur road, Lahore, being based out of Thokar Niaz Beg? How come development in Punjab happens in concentric circles ie anything closer to Lahore gets more developed while the further away the area is, the more ignored it is?
The three points that I have elaborated on could make for a healthy discussion.

The point is, if you are going to attack someone and bash them, at least does it properly. Do not come up with uninformed arguments as they hurt you more than help you.

Source http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/10733/for-pti-trolls-a-lesson-on-bashing/
 
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ustadjejanab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

آج پتا چلا بندہ انگریزی میں بھی چولیں مار سکتا ھے..ویسے انگریزی میں چول مارنے کو کیا کہتے ہیں
 

shah3145

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

آج پتا چلا بندہ انگریزی میں بھی چولیں مار سکتا ھے..ویسے انگریزی میں چول مارنے کو کیا کہتے ہیں
angraizi mai chawal marnay walay ko chu-tia kehthay hain:)
 

ustadjejanab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

مجھے کوڑا لیگ پر حیرت تب ہوتی ھے جب یہ دلیل سے بات کرنے کو کہتے ہیں ..خود بتاؤ ایک ذلیل سے دلیل سے بات کیسے کی جا سکتی ھے.
 

Qureshi1975

Banned
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

مجھے کوڑا لیگ پر حیرت تب ہوتی ھے جب یہ دلیل سے بات کرنے کو کہتے ہیں ..خود بتاؤ ایک ذلیل سے دلیل سے بات کیسے کی جا سکتی ھے.

Thats called educated class who wants to bring change. (thumbsdown)
 

ustadjejanab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

Thats called educated class who wants to bring change. (thumbsdown)


بزرگ کہتے ہیں جیسا منہ ویسی چپیڑ...جو لوگ اس دور میں بھی نواز شریف کی منافقت کو نہیں سمجھ سکے ان کو کون سی دلیل سے قائل کیا جا سکتا ہے .
 

Qureshi1975

Banned
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

And what you think where this educated class is can you explain little bit Thnaks.

Educated people argue with facts without draging families and women in discusion. Only thing PTI supporter can do jump on seat while writting and abusing anyone who does not support IK.
 

ahmad12

Citizen
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

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If you are using any social media platform, you have probably come across the PTI troll.

In most cases they make emotional arguments, repeating the same things posted on the PTI website or (worse still) basing arguments on the statements of their great leader.
Frankly, I am quite tired of listening to the same arguments over and over again. So to escape the same buzzwords, I decided to help them out by writing a playbook for those senselessly bashing the Sharifs.
I am laying out three good arguments that can be made by anyone who hates PML-N and not look like a fool while doing so.
1. The laptop issue
When PTI supporters argue this, they start by quoting random figures they pull out of thin air. When they are asked to substantiate them, they start finding sources and often end up finding them from Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s own website. Attacking someone (like the PML-N) who has the facts and figures on their website makes one look like a fool.
The next mistake is arguing about the state of education in Punjab in general. This is a bad path to go down and a pointless one too because it’s not related to laptops and every major international institution heaps praises on Punjab.
The correct way of arguing this is to raise the following questions:
What should be done with the laptop?
Is it for typing only?
What about internet access? Will the government provide Wi-Fi to the whole of Punjab?
If the government is not providing a free internet connection, what is the purpose of the laptop scheme? Also, how are people going to print stuff if the need arises? Does the Punjab government plan to give printers soon? In essence, giving someone a laptop is like giving them a car engine; it’s crucial but it requires other things to allow proper usage.
2. The health care issue
Most PTI supporters do not know how to go about arguing this.
They normally watch a few clips of Dunya or Express TV and start acting as if they know everything. In addition to this, they would also simply repeat their great leader’s words and refer to Shahbaz Sharif and Nawaz Sharif as the “dengue brothers”.
Calling them names is childish and immature. This is something the Khan supporters and their leader do not understand. What is worse is that using names like this in arguments makes the whole argument weak.
The correct way of doing this is by raising questions like:
Why does all health care attention only focus on central Punjab?
How come the state of the health care institutions in northern Punjab is so bad? What about southern Punjab?
Why does the government keep giving in to doctors and their demands when everyone knows that they are not right? If there is good governance, why isn’t there a proper website or a public platform that lists all the medicines that are available through the government? Why is the Punjab government randomly approving more medical colleges in the province when they could easily be expanding the existing ones? Why is money being wasted on projects that cannot be replicated across Punjab?
Each one of these questions is a strong one, it requires a detailed answer and in most cases that answer does not exist. If these were being used in an argument, it would genuinely make sense and create impact.
3. The infrastructure projects
Again in this regard, PTI supporters really do not know what to say. They just attack the costs of the projects – which is good to make a splash – but is quite pointless.
Attacks on cost of a certain project or the idea that it is for personal benefit are unintelligent. So instead of doing that, here are questions that would genuinely have an impact and create a solid argument:
How come most of the budget for Punjab’s development gets spent in Lahore?
Is it the government of Punjab or government of central Punjab? Because the way things are it looks like the latter.
Why do all infrastructure projects in the province keep getting tendered to the NLC without any open tenders?
Why is that a year before the elections, the PML N government has dug up nearly all major cities of Punjab? Were they sleeping for four years that they did not realise that development projects had to be done?
Why did the Punjab government cancel the Lahore Mass Transit System that was being initiated by the previous government, even though it was a great system and could have changed Lahore forever?
Why is the new bus service that is supposed to run on Ferozepur road, Lahore, being based out of Thokar Niaz Beg? How come development in Punjab happens in concentric circles ie anything closer to Lahore gets more developed while the further away the area is, the more ignored it is?
The three points that I have elaborated on could make for a healthy discussion.
The point is, if you are going to attack someone and bash them, at least does it properly. Do not come up with uninformed arguments as they hurt you more than help you.

Source http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/10733/for-pti-trolls-a-lesson-on-bashing/

I appreciate your effort, but i just want to ask you a couple of simple questions, ARE YOU IN ANYWAY answerable for what PTI supporters do???? Its a free world let them do what they want. And secondly why do people judge ideologies or leaders by their supporters??? i believe we should judge ideology by what it has to offer, and leaders by their vision and capabilities. So rather then whining about Pti supporters if you really want to make a neutral choice go read or listen to what imran khan or what PTI as a party has to offer, not by what PTI followers have to say, it is immaterial. At the end for which party you chose, you are only answerable to your conscience
 

huda627

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

Thats called educated class who wants to bring change. (thumbsdown)
I would like to share one thing here . Most of these PTI kids have not registered their votes yet . I don't know how They are going to bring a change with out voting .
Barking dogs seldom bites :)
 

jangjoo786

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

Munafiq Khan kehty hein ju na sub sey bara ZAAAAAaaaaAAAAAAnnnnNNNNNnnnNNNNNiIIiIiiiiIIIIIIIiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIII




اچھے بچے گھر والوں کے ساتھ تلخ واقعات کو نہیں ظاہر کرتے۔
ویسے اب کیا کیا جایے۔
عمران خان تھا ہی ایسا خوبصورت نوجوان
کہ اس پر تو تیرے گھر والوں کے ساتھ ساتھ دنیا کی ساری لڑکیاں مرتی تھی۔
لیکن ان باتوں اب کویی فایدہ؟
کیوں اپنی بوڑھیوں کی بد دعاییں لینا چاہتے ہو؟

 

Farooq Khan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

Educated people argue with facts without draging families and women in discusion. Only thing PTI supporter can do jump on seat while writting and abusing anyone who does not support IK.
True but are you sure in your case that only PTI supporters are to blame?
 

jagga9

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

I would like to share one thing here . Most of these PTI kids have not registered their votes yet . I don't know how They are going to bring a change with out voting .
Barking dogs seldom bites :)

if they have not registered their voted then why are you and your leadership bothered? Then stay happy and focus on your politics.
But if you are getting paid for this then Nooras are afraid of PTI
 

Qureshi1975

Banned
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

اچھے بچے گھر والوں کے ساتھ تلخ واقعات کو نہیں ظاہر کرتے۔
ویسے اب کیا کیا جایے۔
عمران خان تھا ہی ایسا خوبصورت نوجوان
کہ اس پر تو تیرے گھر والوں کے ساتھ ساتھ دنیا کی ساری لڑکیاں مرتی تھی۔
لیکن ان باتوں اب کویی فایدہ؟
کیوں اپنی بوڑھیوں کی بد دعاییں لینا چاہتے ہو؟


Logon ki ghar wali merti thi tu app kai ghar walian :13:
 

ustadjejanab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

I would like to share one thing here . Most of these PTI kids have not registered their votes yet . I don't know how They are going to bring a change with out voting .
Barking dogs seldom bites :)
پکی بات ھے نا...یہ نا ھو کاٹنا شروع کر دو. انگریزی محاوروں پر کیا اعتبار


 

GraanG2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

Educated people argue with facts without draging families and women in discusion. Only thing PTI supporter can do jump on seat while writting and abusing anyone who does not support IK.

The following is the first abusive post in this thread and that is from Noora.You think you will get flowers in reply? If you do ,then I don't blame you.


Munafiq Khan kehty hein ju na sub sey bara ZAAAAAaaaaAAAAAAnnnnNNNNNnnnNNNNNiIIiIiiiiIIIIIIIiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIII
 

jagga9

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For PTI trolls: A lesson on bashing Adnan Khalid Rasool

Try to post something against PTI or in favour of other party and you will have your answer:)

oh . afsos .. chalo is ki shikayat apny uncle ahsan iqbal ko lagao k paid touts cannot win this war.