Evolution, The Muslim theory

[RustamShah]

We have read the Evolution theory and discussed a lot about it other threads. Some of our learned religious scholars were against the theory of evolution for some religious conflicting views. To be fair with all sides I am presenting here the Muslim theory of evolution.

"Sahih Muslim Book 39. Hadith Number 6707 Giving Description Of The Day Judgement, Paradise and Hell




Bismillah-Hir-Rahman-Nir-Raheem


Chapter : The beginning of the creation and the creation of Adam (peace be upon him).

Abu Haraira reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) took hold of my hands and said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday and He created the mountains on Sunday and He created the trees on Monday and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday and created light on Wednesday and lie caused the animals to spread on Thursday and created Adam (peace be upon him) after 'Asr on Friday; the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday, i.e. between afternoon and night."

"بیاء علیہم السلام کا ذکر اور ان کے فضائلباب : آدم علیہ السلام کی پیدائش کی ابتداء کے بارے میں۔

1605 :

سیدنا ابوہریرہ رضی اللہ عنہ کہتے ہیں کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے میرا ہاتھ پکڑا، پھر فرمایا : اللہ تعالیٰ نے مٹی کو ہفتہ کے دن پیدا کیا ( یعنی زمین کو ) اور اتوار کے دن اس میں پہاڑوں کو پیدا کیا اور پیر کے دن درختوں کو پیدا کیا اور کام کاج کی چیزیں ( جیسے لوہا وغیرہ ) منگل کو پیدا کیں اور بدھ کے دن نور کو پیدا کیا اور جمعرات کے دن زمین میں جانور پھیلائے اور سیدنا آدم علیہ السلام کو جمعہ کے دن عصر کے بعد بنایا، سب سے آخر مخلوقات میں اور جمعہ کی سب سے آخر"​

Further details can be found here....

"The Book Pertaining to Paradise, Its Description, Its Bounties and Its Intimates (Kitab Al-Jannat wa Sifat Na'imiha wa Ahliha) Muslim :: Book 40 : Hadith 6809

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adarn, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day."

 

[ualis]

For god sake don't post unauthentic ahadith here.....these ahadith are nothing but conjecture and more like greek methodology

 

[RustamShah]

For god sake don't post unauthentic ahadith here.....these ahadith are nothing but conjecture and more like greek methodology

You should be careful my friend by calling Sahi Muslim Hadith as "unauthentic" ? Is it not easy for you, for some reasons, when you don't like a Hadith, its suddenly becomes unauthentic ?

 

[mehwish_ali]

میں اس میں مزید اضافہ کر دوں:۔

۔ یہودی و نصاری و مسلم صحیفوں کے مطابق آدم علیہ السلام آج سے 6 ہزار سال قبل اس دنیا میں تشریف لائے اور اس سے قبل زمین پر کسی انسان کا وجود موجود نہ تھا۔

۔ دوسرا یہ کہ 6 ہزار سال قبل آدم علیہ السلام وغیرہ کا قد 30 گز کے برابر تھا، مگر بعد میں ارتقاء کے باعث انسان کا قد گھٹ کر 5 اور 6 فٹ کے درمیان رہ گیا۔

۔ تیسرا یہ کہ آدم علیہ السلام اور نوح علیہ السلام کے زمانے کے انسانوں کی عمر ایک ہزار سال تک ہوتی تھی۔ مگر بعد میں ارتقائی تبدیلیوں کے باعث یہ عمر گھٹ کر 100 سال تک پہنچ گئی۔

۔ طوفان نوح کے وقت کشتی میں ہر قسم کے حشرات الارض اور جانوروں اور پرندوں کے جوڑے ایک کشتی/بحری جہاز میں جمع کیے گئے تھے جو اُس زمانے کے کچھ انسانوں نے بغیر کسی ٹیکنالوجی کے بنائی تھی۔
اس حوالے سے بھی بہت سے سوالات تشتہ باقی ہیں۔​

 

[asifukp]

He created the "trees on Monday" created "light on Wednesday" ????? a class 3 student can tell you that plants need light to grow into tree so first tree then light out of question.. How can Allah the creator and his Prophet say this??

 

[RustamShah]

He created the "trees on Monday" created "light on Wednesday" ????? a class 3 student can tell you that plants need light to grow into tree so first tree then light out of question.. How can Allah the creator and his Prophet say this??

Hey don't ask me ... its mentioned in "Sahi Hadith" !

 

[asifukp]

میں اس میں مزید اضافہ کر دوں:۔

۔ یہودی و نصاری و مسلم صحیفوں کے مطابق آدم علیہ السلام آج سے 6 ہزار سال قبل اس دنیا میں تشریف لائے اور اس سے قبل زمین پر کسی انسان کا وجود موجود نہ تھا۔

۔ دوسرا یہ کہ 6 ہزار سال قبل آدم علیہ السلام وغیرہ کا قد 30 گز کے برابر تھا، مگر بعد میں ارتقاء کے باعث انسان کا قد گھٹ کر 5 اور 6 فٹ کے درمیان رہ گیا۔

۔ تیسرا یہ کہ آدم علیہ السلام اور نوح علیہ السلام کے زمانے کے انسانوں کی عمر ایک ہزار سال تک ہوتی تھی۔ مگر بعد میں ارتقائی تبدیلیوں کے باعث یہ عمر گھٹ کر 100 سال تک پہنچ گئی۔

۔ طوفان نوح کے وقت کشتی میں ہر قسم کے حشرات الارض اور جانوروں اور پرندوں کے جوڑے ایک کشتی/بحری جہاز میں جمع کیے گئے تھے جو اُس زمانے کے کچھ انسانوں نے بغیر کسی ٹیکنالوجی کے بنائی تھی۔
اس حوالے سے بھی بہت سے سوالات تشتہ باقی ہیں۔​

so in then light of your given points one can predict the in the next 6000 years humen will be 5 to 6 inches tall and live for about 1 years..

I'm quite sure Tofan-e-Nooh was a Aazab on the people of Prophet Nooh and was not on the world wide.

 

[patriot]

For god sake don't post unauthentic ahadith here.....these ahadith are nothing but conjecture and more like greek methodology

Totally agree with you it is nothing but conjecture or stories borrowed from non muslims.

Creation was in periods, not in weekdays : Saturday , sunday etc.
Light is being created on a Wednesday , fifth day of the week, then where does the first day, Saturday come from?

 

[patriot]

Hey don't ask me ... its mentioned in "Sahi Hadith" !

You said it all by writing "Sahi Hadith" in inverted commas.:)

 

[mediator]

For god sake don't post unauthentic ahadith here.....these ahadith are nothing but conjecture and more like greek methodology

We know it, you do not need to tell us that Shias do not believe in Sahih Muslim.

Now, Please do not start your Taqayiah and say that I am Sunni!

The purpose of other groups is to create doubts about Sunni Books whereas there own books are full of fabricated stories!!!

 

[mediator]

You said it all by writing "Sahi Hadith" in inverted commas.:)

Here is the attack on Sahih Muslim by a Pervaizi!!!

 

[awan4ever]

How about trying to answer the question instead of calling the person names?

 

[ualis]

You should be careful my friend by calling Sahi Muslim Hadith as "unauthentic" ? Is it not easy for you, for some reasons, when you don't like a Hadith, its suddenly becomes unauthentic ?

Hadith does not mean it is authentic....there are lots of hadith which contradict Quran...Only authentic hadith is Quran.....

 

[RustamShah]

Hadith does not mean it is authentic....there are lots of hadith which contradict Quran...Only authentic hadith is Quran.....

Try to tell this to your brothers and sisters who are hell bend to believe just anything mentioned in "Hadith" !! Earlier I had an encounter with them on the theory of evolution, Now I am giving them back their own version according to their "scriptures". And its already started as I expected, oh its not authentic or conjuctures etc.. you guys are too easy to predict (bigsmile)

 

[ualis]

Try to tell this to your brothers and sisters who are hell bend to believe just anything mentioned in "Hadith" !! Earlier I had an encounter with them on the theory of evolution, Now I am giving them back their own version according to their "scriptures". And its already started as I expected, oh its not authentic or conjuctures etc.. you guys are too easy to predict (bigsmile)

so what is your point or what are you trying to prove here?

 

[RustamShah]

so what is your point or what are you trying to prove here?

Lets see they can accept their own version of the story !

 

[patriot]

Here is the attack on Sahih Muslim by a Pervaizi!!!

Yes I'm attacking these kind of stories .

By calling a book SAHI doesn't mean it is authentic also.

I have read many scholars, Moudoodi sb , A.K. Azad sb. , Parvez sb. Dr. Shabbir sb. , Abaid Ullah Sindhi sb. , Sir Syed sb. , Anayat Ullah Mashriqi sb and others ,you may call me what ever you please
but I don't believe in sects because it is against The Qur'an.

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Lets see they can accept their own version of the story !

OK, so if they do accept this version of the story then they get a 1000 $ gift voucher and you get your name endorsed in the highest ranks of the researchers ????? come on man, grow up please. Like this, you are no use to religion as well as science.... however one may develop doubts over your intentions that they are focused to incite hatred amongst people

 

[RustamShah]

OK, so if they do accept this version of the story then they get a 1000 $ gift voucher and you get your name endorsed in the highest ranks of the researchers ????? come on man, grow up please. Like this, you are no use to religion as well as science.... however one may develop doubts over your intentions that they are focused to incite hatred amongst people

Oh yaar kiyun bongian mar raha hai.. apna kaam kar chal (yapping)

 

[Sohail Shuja]

میں اس میں مزید اضافہ کر دوں:۔

۔ یہودی و نصاری و مسلم صحیفوں کے مطابق آدم علیہ السلام آج سے 6 ہزار سال قبل اس دنیا میں تشریف لائے اور اس سے قبل زمین پر کسی انسان کا وجود موجود نہ تھا۔
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G yeh Muslim sahaif k baray main aaj pehli dafa sun raha houn. Zara aik do k naam aur un ki shaan e nazool bhi bayan farma dijye. Dosra yeh k Yahood o Nasara ki kitabon ya sahaif k baray main to Muslim umma main ittefaq e raaye hay k un main cheezian badli ja chuki hain. Phir dosra sawal yeh k yeh jo 6000 saal hain, yeh shamsi saal hain ya qamri saal ? teesra yeh k kya uss waqt tak calendar eijaad ho chuka tha ?

دوسرا یہ کہ 6 ہزار سال قبل آدم علیہ السلام وغیرہ کا قد 30 گز کے برابر تھا​

Matlab k Hazrat Adam (AS) k qad ki paimaish k liye na sirf aik meezan e paimaish (measuring scale system) bhi tha aur aala e paimaish (yaani k gazz) bhi maujood tha.... kya ye qayas sahi ho ga ?

۔ تیسرا یہ کہ آدم علیہ السلام اور نوح علیہ السلام کے زمانے کے انسانوں کی عمر ایک ہزار سال تک ہوتی تھی​

Hazrat Adam (AS) aur Hazrat Nooh (AS) k zamanay main kitna faraq tha ? Yeh faraq daikhnay k baad faisla kijye ga k baaqi anbiya kin adwar main zahoor pazeer huay aur agar sab ki umrain ausatan 500 saal bhi laga lain to kia 6000 saal ka waqt ho jata hay aaj tak ka ?

Aakhir taur pe ye batayein Hazrat Adam (AS) ki baat to chorain jo k 6000 saal ya iss se bhi purani hay, mujhy yeh batayein k kya yeh afsoos ki baat nahi hay k hum aaj tak Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki tareekh e wiladat k ouper bhi muttafiq nahi hain jo k sirf 1400 saal pehlay ki baat hay ? to hum itni asani sey Hazrat Adam (AS) ki paidaish aur un k qadd budd k mutalliq kaisay itnay ittefaq ka shikar ho gaye ???