Establishments's dirty games have begun!

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Do you know due to devaluation defence budget has been reduced to nearly 16% in 4 months. How much they should wait for incompetencey?
lol...so is that what this is about? All of a sudden, PDM is worried about defence budget?

It sure seems like establishment is bargaining with PTI allies, as well as opposition. AT the very least, this puts to rest the theory that PMIK was brought about by the establishment. These pussy bhuttos and sharifs and chaudhries are born to sell their souls....no match for PMIK.

If theres a hint of forced change, I hope PMIK dissolves the assemblies and calls for elections. The main reason for turmoil right now is that opposition wants to stop electoral reforms, specially overseas voting. Well, if elections are held without overseas voters, then apart from overseas votes, Pakistan will be saying goodbye to one more thing. $30 billion annual remittances. Watch how fast that number crashes.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Sir Will_Bite 30 billion dollar of overseas Pakistani Apni home kay laya deta ha naka government ka tax ya kazna ma jama karana ka layia.

If they do not give than there family will suffer first and i am sure there family is first because Imran Khan will not come and give free food like said on Container and de-choock. Be realistic.

Pakistan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Imran Khan.
Overseas Paksitanis send USD to Pakistan...not to their families. Their families cant use USD to buy aloo piyaz at the market.

overseas Pakistanis send USD to Pak banks...which is converted to PKR at bank rates. ...and GOP gets cheap dollars and give the expat families Rupees. Then that cheap USD is used to pay for import bills etc.

If GoP had to buy the same amount of USD from the international market, they wouldnt be able to, as no country has a need for PKR. And if at all they are able to buy them, it would cost them a massive premium, driving up the cost of USD even further.
Please understand economics before using this argument, as IVe heard it many times.
 

Doom1111

Minister (2k+ posts)
Overseas Paksitanis send USD to Pakistan...not to their families. Their families cant use USD to buy aloo piyaz at the market.

overseas Pakistanis send USD to Pak banks...which is converted to PKR at bank rates. ...and GOP gets cheap dollars and give the expat families Rupees. Then that cheap USD is used to pay for import bills etc.

If GoP had to buy the same amount of USD from the international market, they wouldnt be able to, as no country has a need for PKR. And if at all they are able to buy them, it would cost them a massive premium, driving up the cost of USD even further.
Please understand economics before using this argument, as IVe heard it many times.
I stand correct Remittance.

"A remittance is a payment of money that is transferred to another party. Broadly speaking, any payment of an invoice or a bill can be called a remittance. However, the term is most often used nowadays to describe a sum of money sent by someone working abroad to his or her family back home."



First you need understand the definition of your words than come tell or understand finances. '
 

Wake Up Pakistan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Shaukat Tarin said again today if Car taxes are increase i will resign? Why he giving warning and to who? What is his relationship with cars? He only give bad news and said today that Imran Khan is responsible for messing up IMF program in April. Today he said in Shaukat Khanam Hospital and Youth say it is conspiracry when own Finance minster is saying that my Prime Minister is stupid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1459814006152179716
arifkarim Wake Up Pakistan Wake up Pak
Reference Please

send me Link of his speech.

If he should resign if PM does not want to listen him. Leave with honour.

I dont believe this SHit

PM cant be so naive. something else happening
 

Nauman Ghauri

Councller (250+ posts)
Democracy is not superior than our country, establishment must play its role for the betterment of the country.

if ever again, anyone including the journalists criticise N league again, the people will give a flying fuck to them saying PTIans used to say the same thing, but when it came to implement a solution, they were as dumb as a sitting duck. Come forward and discuss the solution if you have any, or shut the bark up and let us welcome the corrupt N league to bring the dollar back to 120 and the fuel prices and the governance and to keep the sugar mafias in its limits….. and so on.
PTI is a dead meat, best of luck to those still worshipping IK.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Overseas Paksitanis send USD to Pakistan...not to their families. Their families cant use USD to buy aloo piyaz at the market.

overseas Pakistanis send USD to Pak banks...which is converted to PKR at bank rates. ...and GOP gets cheap dollars and give the expat families Rupees. Then that cheap USD is used to pay for import bills etc.

If GoP had to buy the same amount of USD from the international market, they wouldnt be able to, as no country has a need for PKR. And if at all they are able to buy them, it would cost them a massive premium, driving up the cost of USD even further.
Please understand economics before using this argument, as IVe heard it many times.
When was the last time anyone who is living abroad sent USD to Pakistan ? You are really funny person . They send pkrp to their families. There is no USD account sitting in Pakistan getting filled by the overseas Pakistanis. If you are right, then ask the families to get the USD and try to buy staples from the market using USD....
The advantage Government takes is from the conversion. They pay the recipients in Pak Rupees and keep the USD to themselves.
And by the way, the USD is only relevant to those overseas Pakistanis who are living in USA. the rest use their local currency for the exchange rate.
 

Abdullah9

Senator (1k+ posts)
Did establishment told imran khan to hire shukat tarin and delay imf program and hire cm punjab and do nothing in punjab?
wow, two big reasons to show IK the exit gate? Come on man stay on the earth. He is executive if his decisions are not fruitful he will face the music in the next election. it is democracy.
 

Hussain1967

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
A former prime minister tried to do this and then we had an Army rule for about 10 years.
His method of doing that was very bad. He made two mistakes. One, he nominated the one ( Ziauddin Butt) who was from Engineering Corp and had no experience of commanding a fighting Corp. Two, he dismissed Mush when he was onboard a plane from Colombo to Karachi and initially didn’t allow his plane to land at Karachi so that Ziauddin Butt could take charge of Army as COAS.

IK can avoid these mistakes and can nominate the next senior most Corp Commander as COAS. Believe me, no coup will happen. Senior most Corp commanders of fighting Corps ( Artillery, Infantry) do desire to become COAS. However, next senior most is neither General Faiz nor General Ghafoor.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I stand correct Remittance.

"A remittance is a payment of money that is transferred to another party. Broadly speaking, any payment of an invoice or a bill can be called a remittance. However, the term is most often used nowadays to describe a sum of money sent by someone working abroad to his or her family back home."



First you need understand the definition of your words than come tell or understand finances. '
If you insist on cluelessness, i cant help it.

As I said, dollar remittances cant be used by our families to buy groceries.

Similarly, when exporters sell products overseas, they get paid in dollars. But they cant use those dollars to pay their workers salaries.

So no, dollars dont go into our families pockets. The only families that hoard dollars in Pakistan are the Sharif Zardari types...who spend their eids and weddings abroad.

Our families get rupees...not dollars. The dollars go to Pak govt. Take a course in B.Com if needed.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
When was the last time anyone who is living abroad sent USD to Pakistan ? You are really funny person . They send pkrp to their families. There is no USD account sitting in Pakistan getting filled by the overseas Pakistanis. If you are right, then ask the families to get the USD and try to buy staples from the market using USD....
The advantage Government takes is from the conversion. They pay the recipients in Pak Rupees and keep the USD to themselves.
And by the way, the USD is only relevant to those overseas Pakistanis who are living in USA. the rest use their local currency for the exchange rate.
Errr...tell this to Desperado. YOu just said the same thing as I did...apart from a couple of gaffes.
Expats send USD if they are in the US...or if in the middle east. Mideast currencies are pegged to the US, so its virtually the same.
The remitted forex is deposited with their respective bank, and the bank in turn, credits their account with rupees.
In daily forex reports, you must have heard that Pakistan has $X in forex reserves...and this much lies with the state bank, and this much lies with private banks. THAT is where the dollars are.
 

Typhoon

Senator (1k+ posts)
Right now the different party heads are bargaining with the establishment and ready to sell their souls to satan once again. The decision has been made that this government is going down , only terms and conditions are being set behind closed doors.

It is really really sad that in Pakistan Jamhuriat is baandi of establishment , even if the elections are not rigged there are electables who will join any party that the establishment order them to. The courts are used by the establishment to create hurdles for the governments and there are some non-state violent forces which come to roads on command of establishment. Stay orders against mafia and facilitating the influential criminals is the major job of higher courts in pakistan.

The latest and most obvious harkat of courts was to ask PM imran khan about APS incident in courts. The same people who revolt against the establishment become their bunnies on a slightest lure of iqtidar.

Can pakistan afford this merry go round yet again?


Secondly has anyone thought about how detrimental are the 3 months between two governments for the economy of the country. This is extremely silly practice which pushes a country 1 year back in three months. There should be smooth transition between two governments without a need of aboori hakoomat.
Oe bewaquf admi, tu gawah he in sab cheezo ka?
Bakwas phela raha he.
Jhut or fake news ya tere zaati bakwas tajziye, in dogs ko wapis nahi le ke aen ge. Stray dogs ki tarha gallion mein hi bhonkte rahein ge ye.
Pio in sab ka bhagorha khanzeer mota dalal, kab wapis ae ga? Pehle ye bhonk ke bata, shabash.
Qoum in raashi khnazeero ko mustarad kar chuki he. Tujh jaise tattpunjiye abhi bhi establishment ka raag alap rahe hein.
Teri bhi dinosaur mentality he.
 

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