Eid Milaad e Sayyedah Fatima Zehra SA
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im totaly agree with you bro if you agree with me i know every new thing called biddat it means any thing which was not introduce in the life of prophet Mohammad pbuh and sahaba life is called biddath according to one particular school of thought then pls answer me about hanafi,shafi,malaki.hanbali.deobandi,Ahlehadees aur wahabi these all thing come after even sahaba life so pls called them biddath too thank you in advance if you understand me.
The interpretations done by various Imams have been categorized in Fiqas........ if u feel its bidat..... i don’t have a problem with your view......
Lo ji ub mazeed fazool theories aahnay lugeen . . . . Eid kahan sa khushi ka din hota hai , khud he invent kur lia . . . . Eid ka din Allah ki taraf sa tohfa hota hai, or Musalmano ko Allah ka Rasool (SAW) na Eid ul azha or eid ul Fitar ka din tohfay ma dia . . . . Ub is ka baad jo bhi kisi ore eid ka zikar karta hai, Bakwaas karta hai . . . .
Or kia allah ka Rasool (SAW) ya Sahaba (RA) jis ma Hazarat Ali (RA), Hazarat Hasan (RA) or Hazarat Hussain (RA) shamil hain, kia inhoun na upni Bivi/Walida ka liay ya din mananya . . . . Ub ya Irani biddati kia Hazarat Fatimah (RA) sa ziada mohabat kurtay hain . . . . Mazahab ka naam pur is Karobaar ko bund karo or ya topi pehnana bund karo ka Hazarat Ali (RA), Hazarat Fatimah (RA), Hazarat Hasan (RA) or Hazarat Hussain (RA) sa Mohabat kurnay ka liay mujhay Muharram ka topi drama kurnay hongay . . . .
Islam ma sirf Dou Eidain hain or is ka baad sub Bakwaas hai . . . . Or jis din meray walidain meri Birthday (Jo ka wo nahi manatay) ko Mazhab ka hisa banaday, us din tum bhi un ko roke suktay ho . . . . Is thread pur halat ya hai kai koi munafiq, Hazarat Fatimah (RA) ko risalat ma shareek kur raha hai tu koi Allah bun kur Eidain bant raha hai . . . . This is the first time that I ve heard of this Eid, and mark my words as the next yaer, these Irani Biddatees will come forward with another type of Eid . . . . And the traitors of Kufa are doing such things from the last 1400 years . . . .
I am completely shocked to find fuzool comments here. Eid means Khushi and Milad means birthday. Why you celebrate your own children's birthdays and when it is the Prophetpbuh's home, you start giving fatawas.......Yes I am happy because mujhay tau apni women ko jannat main lay kar jana hay agar aap nay nahi lay jana tau chahay naraaz hon ya ghussa kerain kiyun ki Hazrat Bibi Sahiba hi tau jannat ki auroton ki sardar hain.....
'These five are enough for me who are the ridders of difficulty, Mustafa, Murtadha, The Two Sons and Fatimah'.
Dear,
for me, the Ridder of Difficulty is only Allah and his path as told by the Holy Prophet (SAW) . . . . Baqi Deen ma koi Biddat (Chahay Irani ho ya Hindustani) bunao gay tu phir mao tu sunaounga . . . . Baqi meri dua hai ka hum sub rahi raast pur aah jain ore Jaanat mai jain, baqi agar Jannat ka darwazoun ka theka Iranioun na lia hua hai tu phir alug baat hai . . . .
Dousra opper jo aap na surah/hadees bunai hui hai, ya kia Iran pur nazil hui thi . . . .
Lawangeen
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Ok can you explain me that these imams were recomended or mention by prophet pbuh or khulfahr rashedeen pls give me a authentic hadees for my knowldge .
KhanHaripur
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KhanHaripur
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Linguistically Bid'ah (innovation) means 'a newly invented matter'.
The Sharee'ah definition of Bid'ah is: "A newly invented way [beliefs or action] in the religion, in imitation of the Sharee'ah (prescribed Law), by which nearness to Allaah is sought, [but] not being supported by any authentic proof - neither in its foundations, nor in the manner in which it is performed." Al-I'tisaam of ash-Shaatibee (1/37).
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated repeatedly that: "Every newly-invented thing is a bid'ah (innovation), every bid'ah is a going astray, and every going astray will be in the Fire." (Reported by al-Nisaa'i in al-Sunan, Salaat al-'Eedayn, Baab kayfa al-Khutbah). Reports with the same meaning were narrated via Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) by Ahmad, via al-'Irbaad ibn Saariyah by Abu Dawud and via Ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) by Ibn Maajah.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say, when beginning a khutbah (sermon): "... The best of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those which are newly-invented, and every innovation is a going astray..." (reported by Muslim, no. 867)
If every bid'ah is a going astray, how can some people then say that there is such a thing in Islam as "bid'ah hasanah"? By Allaah, this is an obvious contradiction of the statement and warning of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that whoever innovates something new in the deen (religion) will have his deed rejected, and Allaah will not accept it, as is stated in the hadeeth narrated by 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours that is not a part of it will have it rejected.'" (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, no. 2697). How can anybody then say that bid'ah is acceptable and it is permitted to follow it?
When a person innovates something and adds to the deen something that does not belong to it, he is implying a number of bad things, each worse than the last, for example:
That the religion is lacking, that Allaah did not complete and perfect it, and that there is room for improvement. This clearly contradicts the statement in the Qur'aan (interpretation of the meaning): "... This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion..." [al-Maa'idah 5:3]
1. That the religion remained imperfect from the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) until the time when this innovator came along and completed it with his own ideas.
2. That the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was "guilty" of either of two things: either he was ignorant of this "good innovation," or he knew about it but concealed it, thus letting his ummah down by not conveying it. That the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), his Companions and the righteous salaf (early generations) missed out on the reward of this "good innovation" - until this innovator came along and earned it for himself, despite the fact that he should say to himself, "If it was truly good, they would have been the first to do it."
Opening the door to bid'ah leads to changing the deen (religion) and opens the way for personal whims and opinions, because every innovator implies that what he is introducing is something good.
Following bid'ah leads to the cancelling out of sunnah practices and the ways of the first three generations of Islaam in which the Prophet Muhammad (Sallalaahu Alaihi wa Sallam) described as being the best generations of Muslims. The first, the Prophet (Sallalaahu Alaihi wa Sallam) and his Sahaabah (companions). The second, the Taabi'een (the followers of the companions). The third, the Tabaa'at-Taabi'een (the followers of the followers of the companions).
The Sharee'ah definition of Bid'ah is: "A newly invented way [beliefs or action] in the religion, in imitation of the Sharee'ah (prescribed Law), by which nearness to Allaah is sought, [but] not being supported by any authentic proof - neither in its foundations, nor in the manner in which it is performed." Al-I'tisaam of ash-Shaatibee (1/37).
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated repeatedly that: "Every newly-invented thing is a bid'ah (innovation), every bid'ah is a going astray, and every going astray will be in the Fire." (Reported by al-Nisaa'i in al-Sunan, Salaat al-'Eedayn, Baab kayfa al-Khutbah). Reports with the same meaning were narrated via Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) by Ahmad, via al-'Irbaad ibn Saariyah by Abu Dawud and via Ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) by Ibn Maajah.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say, when beginning a khutbah (sermon): "... The best of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those which are newly-invented, and every innovation is a going astray..." (reported by Muslim, no. 867)
If every bid'ah is a going astray, how can some people then say that there is such a thing in Islam as "bid'ah hasanah"? By Allaah, this is an obvious contradiction of the statement and warning of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that whoever innovates something new in the deen (religion) will have his deed rejected, and Allaah will not accept it, as is stated in the hadeeth narrated by 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours that is not a part of it will have it rejected.'" (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, no. 2697). How can anybody then say that bid'ah is acceptable and it is permitted to follow it?
When a person innovates something and adds to the deen something that does not belong to it, he is implying a number of bad things, each worse than the last, for example:
That the religion is lacking, that Allaah did not complete and perfect it, and that there is room for improvement. This clearly contradicts the statement in the Qur'aan (interpretation of the meaning): "... This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion..." [al-Maa'idah 5:3]
1. That the religion remained imperfect from the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) until the time when this innovator came along and completed it with his own ideas.
2. That the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was "guilty" of either of two things: either he was ignorant of this "good innovation," or he knew about it but concealed it, thus letting his ummah down by not conveying it. That the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), his Companions and the righteous salaf (early generations) missed out on the reward of this "good innovation" - until this innovator came along and earned it for himself, despite the fact that he should say to himself, "If it was truly good, they would have been the first to do it."
Opening the door to bid'ah leads to changing the deen (religion) and opens the way for personal whims and opinions, because every innovator implies that what he is introducing is something good.
Following bid'ah leads to the cancelling out of sunnah practices and the ways of the first three generations of Islaam in which the Prophet Muhammad (Sallalaahu Alaihi wa Sallam) described as being the best generations of Muslims. The first, the Prophet (Sallalaahu Alaihi wa Sallam) and his Sahaabah (companions). The second, the Taabi'een (the followers of the companions). The third, the Tabaa'at-Taabi'een (the followers of the followers of the companions).
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MashaAllah buhath khoob aap ka zoore bayan hai buhath kay masaley per kia hii acha ho kay aap mughey bataeen gai kay Taraveeh kabhi rasathe maab hazrath Mohamaad pbuh aur syedena hazrath Sadeeqe Akbar ra nay bhi baajamaath naheen parhai yeh khaleefae doem hazrath umar farooq Allah un per razi hoo nay yeh bidaath shuroo ki aur kia iss bidhath ko khaleefae soem aur chaharam nay bhi bajamath parhai? Iss ka mutafiqa aliah jawab dijey gaa iss refrence kay saath kay rasathemaab hazrath Mohamaad pbuh aur hazrath sadeeqe akbar ra nay bhi bajamaath regular ramadan mai parhai, i always respect u cus ur the one who never participate in sectarian harerd debate so im sure you will remain away from this habit when u reply me shukria.
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Quran is the source........Hadith explain it further........and if there is need for further explanation for understanding of common Muslim....... it has been further explained......... like is there any need for recitation of Surah Fateh while praying after Imam..... it has been explained differently by different Imams....... by the way they gained following latter on and were known as Imams much latter...... at that time they were just working on religion through their hand written publications and speeches......
Ur question gives the impression that Prophet SAW would name the people who would explain hadiths and Quran...Its gona be a long long list.............come on get practical......dont drag it…..u need more than counter questions to convince me on this issue….........
Now u tell me........ where its mentioned in Quran and Hadith or did Sahaba, Tabeen or taba Tabeeen ever celebrated Eid E Milad Unabi?????...........u give me an authentic hadith or verse for these celebrations.........or an event where Khulfa E rashideen cleebrated Prophet (SAW) birthday......
Meray Mola Karam ho karam…….Tujh say faryad kertay hain hum (beautiful Hamad on TV at the moment)
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I used the word "we" for all the Muslims........i don’t practice sectarianism......... and would very humbly request that instead of editing my quote...you should come up with your own statement......cuz I don’t wana give the slightest & untrue impression that I believe in sectarianism ……… Thanx :D
It’s a “We”……..
pls try to understand my point im not trying to influence or try to convince u but i ask u it was diffrent then reply actualy im asking about 4 imams and then other branches of fiqahe hanafia like deoband or bralvi, who gave authority to those ppl to introduce fiqah? and why why it was necessary when sahaba ikram and more then that khulfae rashdeen does not introduce these fiqah? in last if it was necessary on that time it is almost 1200 years now why not any other person can bring a new fiqah? i think if that was necessary on that time then it has mpore onbligation right now and ummah need some thing to adress more correctly cus alot of thing change now, now come to ur question aap jiiss sai mohabbath karthey hain uss ki khushi mananey main koi muziqa naheen like for example if some one dont want to celebrate to is ka koi gunnah naheen hai is tarha agar hum khushi manatey hain to rasalathe maab hazrath Mohammad pbuh kii khushi ko share karthey hain, like jab hazrath abutalib and bibi hazrath khudaija sa kii wafath hoi to aap nai us saal koo AAM ULKHAZAN kay naam sai yani gham ka saal kay toor per manaya, in last nabi paak pbuh kii whole life was spend in to do something for islam so if we are giving him some happiness in shape of celebrating his daighter birthday so yeh koi gunnah naheen jaab kay itni saari cheezen hum nay change keen islam main too yeh to koi aisi baath naheen hai if some one dont want to celebrate is ka koi bura bhi naheen manana chahey and in other hand if some celebrate then there is no need to caal BIDDAH.
I wrote a long reply....but then i deleted it....... since i dont like long posts..........so wont write a long one at this moment.......
it was not the intent of these Ulemas/Imams to create a sect..... but when u refer to specific set of teachings u have to have a name for it…… so it was named so and so……..and it became a sect……..
Further the four imams didnt came exactly at the same time........ there is a difference of decades or some time dozenz of decades in between........ the Bralvi is the most recent off shoot (no insult intended) ....... so the creation of sects or sub sects is going on........ who said it has stopped....... new sect are in generation and u would see new ones with passage of time.......
ur answer to my question that when u love someone then its not wrong to celebrate his/her happiness......... u tell me...... who in the world can claim that they love Prophet (SAW) more than........the Khulafa E Rashdeen.......his beloved duagther and his grandsons.... did they ever celebrate his birthday??? if u have an answer to it I would rest my case.......
And ur point that we have changed so much…why not change a lil more……. Wow….. ur point can make us declare Ribba halal…….. this change would help the economy as well…….(apparently)
and on the last note...... i dont have a problem if u celebrate Eid E Milad, Eid Fatima (RAA), EID E Umer O Abu Baker O Usman O Ali(RAA), Eid Hasnain (RAA), Ghame Hussain (RAA) but u have to accept my right of statement that it were never celebrated by the Prophet and his companions and followers......... and u have to accept my right not to practice it if i dont wish to..... as it has not been ordained........ and u also have to accept my view that if i have never heard of any such eid....... i have the right to utter the statement that i have never heard of it.........over and out......
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Mahdi bhai,
the decisions of the Khulfa e Rashideens come under the Ijmah and any thing, which has not been the part of Quran, Sunnah and the Ijmah, but created later on is a Biddaat . . . . Than you may say that the decisions of Ijtihad are also Biddaat, than still you are wrong as for the decisions of Ijtihad, it is neccessery that they should remain with in the circle of Quran, Sunnah and Ijmah . . . . That is the reason that if some one declare Ribbah as halal under the slogan of Ijtihad, still Ribbah will remain Haram as Quran, Sunnah and Ijmah has declared it so . . . .
Now, what you are trying to do, is to compare the acts of these Sqaundrals of today (Who have made this religion a source of business in the form of Muharram, Rib ul Awal, Giarween sharif/Chehlums, Practices at Mazars), with the decisions of the Sahabas (RA) . . . . By the way, it is these biddatees, who mostly give refrence to this action of Hazarat Umer (RA) of introducing Tarawee with Jamat, to justify their biddats . . . . And my answer to them is always as simple "The Day you become pious to even worth the dirt of the shoes of Hazart Siddiq (RA), Hazarat Umer (RA), Hazarat Usman (RA) and Hazarat Ali (RA), you may introduce what ever you like" . . . .
And every one knows the worth of these filthy animals, whom I call as Biddatees, who have made this pure religion hostage to their business of making money . . . . The same of what the Jews did to the Christanity by introducing the popes and clergy, who made sure that the true saints, the flag bearers of the Message of Hazarat Essa (AS) would be killed to make the way for the Biddatees of that time . . . . And the same is the situation today, as just two days back, another true Aalim, Maulana Shekhupuri was martyred by these Jewish remanents. Even though the Maulana Sahib was disabled from waist to below (due to childhood Polio) and was not a threat to any one, but, was a danger to these Zoinist followers as was speaking the truth . . . .
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