Does the Quran Need Hadith to Teach Salah

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[Wake up Pak]

This question should have been posed to the followers of Hadith.

 

[A.G.Uddin]

With more and more people questioning Hadith Corpus , my humble recommendation would be to use your own intellect without acting like a sheeple. I watch Quranists, Modernists and mainstream Muftis....and note down valid points about Akhlaq etc...regardless of who is the speaker.

Regarding Salah , it's something beyond traditional prayers. It's a way of life and system. The Holy Qur'an speaks about Dhikr and remembrance of Allah SWT apart from prostration and purity. I have stayed with (Sunni) sets of Rakats/Rakahs, HOWEVER I don't do complete Tashahud as you're calling out Prophet Mohammed SAW apart from Allah despite The Holy Qur'an clearly saying that he is/was a mortal human being. Moreover why all these Duroods ? If Prophet Mohammed SAW continued with Salahs of previous Prophets and Messengers then how come they never recited Durood-e-Sharif or Durood-e-Ibrahim?

No need to invent any new system of Rakahs or being super creative, there could an element of truth somewhere. But always question/check whatever you're supposed to recite especially if it goes against basic concept of monotheism

 

[Citizen X]

Lets see what does their own shiekh and scholar says

 

[Citizen X]

No need to invent any new system of Rakahs or being super creative, there could an element of truth somewhere. But always question/check whatever you're supposed to recite especially if it goes against basic concept of monotheism

You are right there could be an element of truth somewhere in there because its basically tradition but how do we know which elements? If it really was that important wouldn't Allah would have told us? Alos traditions change and evolve slowly overtime and sometime people just make up their own tradition out of the blue.

Anecdotal funny story
Once, a young woman was preparing a roast for dinner. Before putting it into the oven, she cut off the ends of the roast.

Her husband watched and asked, "Why do you cut off the ends?"

She said, "That’s how my mother always did it."

Curious, the husband later asked her mother, "Why do you cut off the ends of the roast?"

The mother said, "That’s how my mother did it."

So they went to the grandmother and asked her, "Why did you cut the ends off the roast?"

The grandmother laughed and said,"Oh, that’s because my oven was too small! The roast wouldn’t fit otherwise!"

So tradition is not always right.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Lets see what does their own shiekh and scholar says

A.G.Uddin

 

[A.G.Uddin]

You are right there could be an element of truth somewhere in there because its basically tradition but how do we know which elements? If it really was that important wouldn't Allah would have told us? Alos traditions change and evolve slowly overtime and sometime people just make up their own tradition out of the blue.

That's the same thing that I tried to say. Read once again what I said about Tashahud and Durood earlier . Prostration and Dhikr are mentioned in The Holy Qur'an that's why I am optimistic about them.

 

[Citizen X]

That's the same thing that I tried to say. Read once again what I said about Tashahud and Durood earlier . Prostration and Dhikr are mentioned in The Holy Qur'an that's why I am optimistic about them.

What I am trying to say is how do you know the modified sunni system you are following even existed?

 

[A.G.Uddin]

What I am trying to say is how do you know the modified sunni system you are following even existed?

HHMMMMM, just being skeptical or optimistic . Moreover if many amongst us see any similarities with Jewish, Christian or Hindu methods of worship then feel that perhaps there's some divine connection . Just my guess

 

[Citizen X]

HHMMMMM, just being skeptical or optimistic . Moreover if many amongst us see any similarities with Jewish, Christian or Hindu methods of worship then feel that perhaps there's some divine connection . Just my guess

Or perhaps people have tainted Islam with their rituals? Even the Quran warns us that the people of the book will try to persuade you towards them.

 

[Not_Guilty]

 

[observer-x]

This question should have been posed to the followers of Hadith.

No the real question is why do you deny last rites to your OWN dead family members?

 

[observer-x]

Or perhaps people have tainted Islam with their rituals?

Ok that is why you denied last rites to your dead ones?

 

[Wake up Pak]

No the real question is why do you deny last rites to your OWN dead family members?

Oh! The filthy cult following rat came out of the gutter again.

 

[observer-x]

Oh! The filthy cult following rat came out of the gutter again.

You're making your own dead family members in your house rotting like rats by denying their salat ul janazah and ghusl.

 

[observer-x]

Wake up Pak Why do you do that to your own parents? Don't they deserve a ritual dua from you for all they did for you throughout their lives?

 

[Wake up Pak]

Wake up Pak Why do you do that to your own parents? Don't they deserve a ritual dua from you for all they did for you throughout their lives?

Worry about your parents, I feel sorry for them that they bore a cult following son. observer-x

 

[observer-x]

Worry about your parents, I feel sorry for them that they bore a cult following son. observer-x

Do some charity (sadqa jaria) on behalf of your parents. Make dua for them. Read Quran and send its reward to them.

Is this how you pay back, you Pervaizi hackel and jackels by denying their last rites?

 

[observer-x]

And worse, you did not even bury them since you don't believe in ritual burial? They're still in your houses?

 

[observer-x]

So tradition is not always right.

Its a ritual tradition to bury the dead and you're telling everybody Pervaizis don't bury their dead ones?