Do you agree with Hassan Nisar analysis?

zafarbokhari

Senator (1k+ posts)
Imran Khan made a strategic mistake by not challenging PML-N in Punjab. Nawaz Sharif proved to be shrewd politicians visiting IMran in hospital and take his energies to NA 250, Karachi, MQM, & Altaf (One Karachi seat vs 100+ seats in Punjab). At that time I wrote 10 times to PTI with no answer. I supported Imran for many years but his refusal to Tahir Qadri, his focus on Karachi instead of Punjab right after elections, and now he wants us to wait 5 years in toooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhh. Tahir Qadri's change of system is 100% correct. I am sad that why Imran Khan was not helped and challenged within party of his wrong decisions???????????????? To fight Terror and develop economically; he could have implemented "Strong City Governments" by going directly into Baldiati IN KPK within weeks not months as infrastructure is there.
 

Politcs

Minister (2k+ posts)
Peaceful revolution like Egyptian General Sisi revoulution and Syrian army use of chemical weapons on its own people. Hsan Nisar drinks too much and then start support Altaf Hussain and Dr Tahir Padri. NS and IK will die in next few years but the worst thing they can do with Pakistan is to topple governments and bring people like Padri to rule Pakistan with the help of army. Hasan Nisar should do one favour to us is stop drinking at least during the day.

I will not protest if IK wins next election or PMLn but I will be on roads if army or people like Padri got chance to rule Pakistan. No to army and their proxies like Dr Padri.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dr Tahir Ul Qadri is a good person, he speaks of problems relating to Pakistan, whether it be education, eomens rights, political system and so on. However this thing about him being always right is slightly over exaggerrated. Even I use to say that status quo will rigg elections, years ago because I realised after 45% bogus votes declared by CJ, last elections that this system needs to change concerning voting. However the system did bot change because status quo parties do not want to do so, otherwise how will they be able to rigg.

Now coming to IK we insafians have backed him for years because we wanted Change and to get this we have to take down status quo. We thought a Bhutto type of Tsunami may come in Pakistan, but it did not however through rigging we lost maybe at least 40 odd seats.
When we got results of our defeat, PTI was in shock, they just did not understand what hit them, our leader was in hospital and our party was clueless what to do.
It was PTI supporters who hit the streets themselves, even then PTI were clueless in what to do. Then we had Saudi officials going to see IK, then US ambassodor I think, apart from that GK phones IK, and then Nawaz Sharif took a lollipop to hospital and gave it too IK. All of these mentioned had something to do with rigging in elections and even army I think.

I pray that IK popularity dies not go the way our CJ has, these are very tough tines for PTI, us losing in KPK is a wake up call, And if we do not learn then it could be a downhill slope


Is revolution the only way?

Well we tried to change the system through voting but all status quo parties rigged in there respective areas, so change is not possible unless the voting system is changed. However we cannot change the voting system because status quo will not allow it. We tried to go to CJ and look what happened there instead of listening he issued a notice of contempt to IK. So how the heck are we gonna change the voting machinery?

I was hoping that army would at least play it fair however they seem to be influenced by foreign powers as well.

To be honest the only thing we can do is make KPK better and an example of change, however the present circumstances PTI is facing it seems they are gonna get there butts kicked there as well, unless IK completly changes his team including CM of KPK. If they can get KPK better than the other thing they can do is put pressure on government to change voting system, a street movement will be required a year before general elections, so that they can use there whole energy on KPK.

Coming back to revolution, if we decide to hit the streets we will be up against PML N, PPP, MQM, JUI F and other like minded parties. Also I fear thY army could support them as well. Even our beloved CJ will stick by them.
So where will it all end? If US sees that NS time is up then they will give the clearance to army to take over, yes our generals are boot lickers, of them as well, but not as much as NS and Zardari. So end result could be army, then what happens to change?

However ultimately street movement will be required if u want to have a chance of saving Pakistan, there are NO guarantees but what choice do u have ?
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If Dr Tahir Ul Qadri hits the streets a significant amount of PTI supporters may go and support him. This is a reality remember last time there were many of us that wanted to go and join. The situation now is different we thought we could change it by voting, but the electorol system is polluted, CJ we cannot expect anything from him either. As for army they seem to be on the same lines of status quo, maybe they are waiting for there turn.

What choice do u have?
So yes a revolution seems the only way unless army intervenes and calls for a free and fair election. Otherwise street movement seems the way. But even that could end up in a dead end, with nothing coming out of it.
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't think you have have Masters in engineering, I don't think you have masters in anything because if you had, then you would have known that he is not the prime minister of Pakistan, for him to implement the changes that your are talking about, he had to be the PM of this country which he is not, the matter of contempt of court, I don't think you even know about the contempt of court law, read about it first, then determine whether Imran Khan has committed contempt of court and then make a comment. Rigging did take place and on a massive scale that's why ***** is the PM, he cannot keep quite about it.

Oh quit your crying. We've already seen this film before. PTI loses. PTI cries. By Election, PTI Loses. PTI cries. Peshwar Love affair finishes in 2 months. PTI cries.

Rigging happens in ALL Pakistani elections since the dawn of Pakistan. Voter turn out is always very low, again since the dawn of Pakistan. If Imran Khan didn't know about rigging then he is even more naive than I had thought he was. All that talk about Winning games with the Oppositions umpire was just BS then. Was it? What a show.

So, going by the condition of implementing all that talk Imran Khan said he would do; it was ALL conditional on him being a PM? Therefore since he is not; that means all that talk is also down the drain and they are just mere words. Therefore, there is no need for him to push any of his agenda because he is NOT a PM. Perfect excuse.
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What choice do u have?
So yes a revolution seems the only way unless army intervenes and calls for a free and fair election. Otherwise street movement seems the way. But even that could end up in a dead end, with nothing coming out of it.
You have No choice. No shortcuts. Imran Khan is a lame duck leader. Not a single political maneuver that one can consider him as tactful. My suggestion is that you need to grow a leader from scratch. That takes time and a LOT of effort.

As for the revolution idea, I don't think we Pakistanis have the "Jazba" in us to follow through on that. We are shortcut lovers. We pray for some miracle leader to come and save us. We don't want to put in the hard work and time. A Revolution requires both of those and blood. If I read the political scene in Pakistan - a Revolution would also require you co-operation from the Army. Goodluck with that. There is NO choice in the short term. Tahir Ul Qadri will come and leave by handing you a 2 paragraph word document. lol.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@lurker

Yes u do talk a lot of sense, IK seems like a very simple person and he does not have the cleaverness to deal with status quo. As for strategy even if there is one it becomes highlighted on Twitter. As for revolution I do agree with u army needs to be the one to finalise things. However they seem to be a part of the problem as well. Do not know what to do, may Allah show us the right way.
 

kakajee

Minister (2k+ posts)
Peaceful revolution like Egyptian General Sisi revoulution and Syrian army use of chemical weapons on its own people. Hsan Nisar drinks too much and then start support Altaf Hussain and Dr Tahir Padri. NS and IK will die in next few years but the worst thing they can do with Pakistan is to topple governments and bring people like Padri to rule Pakistan with the help of army. Hasan Nisar should do one favour to us is stop drinking at least during the day.

I will not protest if IK wins next election or PMLn but I will be on roads if army or people like Padri got chance to rule Pakistan. No to army and their proxies like Dr Padri.


hahaha :D

Just like you were on he roads when Army kicked Nawaz *** and people were distributing sweets in Andaroon Lahore.

You are a by-product of that slogan.

Qadam barhao nawaz Shareef, hum tumharay saath hain" and when he did move forward, you guys were gone and then he ran away to Jeddah.

The turth is you his supporters are as fake as that bald *******'s fake hair that he has transplanted.All this is historically proven and true. You cant do a sh*t. Tum main itna pani nahin hai so relax:lol::lol:


 

mehar ali

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
You have right to say any thing but you can never deny the work he has done is tremendous...he has worked practically ...must watch ...

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Have listened a lot of times, he does not have a single implementable solution for the real world.
 

Noorinat

MPA (400+ posts)
نواز اور شہباز شریف ایک قاتل انسان ہے اور یہ نواز فیملی ہمیشہ سے غنڈوں اور سٹوڈینٹ لیڈروں کو اس شرط پر استعمال کر کے الیکشن جتیتے ہیں کہ تمہارے تمام کیسیز ختم کر دیے جائیں گے اگرہماری حکومت آ گئی ۔۔ ایک سچا واقعہ ہے کہ نواز شریف جب پہلی مرتبہ الیکشن جیتا تو اس کو گوالمنڈی میں جیتانے والا ''''ایم اے او کالج'''' لاھور کا سٹوڈینٹ لیڈر '''عابد چوھدری''' تھا یہ بہت ہی دلیر ، طاقتور اور خوبصورت نوجوان تھا اور وہ '''مزنگ''' لاھور میں رہتا تھا ۔ الیکشن جیتنے کے بعد جب شریف فیملی نے اس کے کیسیز ختم نہ کیے تو ایک دن اس نے شہباز شریف کے منہ پر اس کو گالیاں دیں تھیں اور دوسرے ہی دن اس کو گاڑی میں آتے ھوے قتل کر دیا گیا تھا ۔ سرفراز نواز کریکٹر کو بھی شہباز شریف کے غنڈوں نے لاھور میں اپنے گھر سے نکلتے ھوے مارا تھا اور شدید زخمی حالت میں چھوڑ کر فرار ھو گیے تھے ۔اس نے بھی شہباز شریف پر الزام لگایا تھا ۔ اب اس الیکشن میں انہوں نے جیتنے کے لیے پنجابی طالبان کو استعمال کیا ھو گا جو اب ان کے گلے پڑ جائیں گے
 

FahadBhatti

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You have right to say any thing but you can never deny the work he has done is tremendous...he has worked practically ...must watch ...

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Imran's work is also practical but they alike do not have the solutions. Thairul Qadri's solution is that comply with everything he says which is against the real world. Real world works in a different manner , imran has known it a hard way and tahirul qadri will know it soon enough.
 

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