Do Indian men lack respect for women? : CNN

[modern.fakir]

[h=2]Do Indian men lack respect for women?[/h]

It has been reported that India is unsafe for women.

I am not Indian but Ive had read about female infanticide, dowry demands, high-profile rape cases and other forms of violence and abuse against women in India. As of lately, media reports said that violence is not limited to Indian women but also to other foreign nationals who travelled to India. In fact, an American woman was gang-raped by three men in India in June 2013.

Since it sees no color, race and religion, violence against women is not only happening in India but also in other countries as well.

Growing up with many women in the family, it hurt me to know such abuse in Indian women. My heart goes to the victims who suffer tremendously and I know the horrors they go through are unspeakable.

But why is this happening to India? Didnt India have a female Prime Minister like Indira Gandhi?
Do Indian men lack respect for women?

I do believe that India is rich in traditions, values and morals. They have gender laws but are hardly enforced. If the people will not change their mindset that all human beings have equal rights to live safely and independently with dignity, then the lives of Indian women remain dangerous.

Perhaps, these sacred quotes from Hinduism on women can provide an answer:

Ansuya (Rishi Atri's wife) said to Sita:
"A woman is impure by her very birth; but she attains a happy state by serving her lord (husband)". Tulasi Ramayana Aranya Kanda, 5 A-B

A wife, obedient to her husband, renowned, light-footed, eloquent in speech, sympathetic to the patients, attains to happiness when she lives peacefully with her husband, and nicely cooks the food highly efficacious, and grown through rain, conducive to our physical growth, brought daily in use, and relished by our ancestors. Yajur Veda Chapter XXXIII, Verse 59

Rama (addressing Bharata) said: "Do you keep your womenfolk pacified? Are they duly protected by you? I hope you do not repose excessive faith in them and do not confide your secrets to them." Valmiki Ramayana Ayodhya Kanda, 100.49

Krishna said: "For, taking refuge in Me, they also who, O Arjuna, may be of sinful birth--women, vaisyas as well as sudras--attain the Supreme Goal." Bhagavad Gita, Ch.9, Verse 32

[Commentary by Swami Shivananda, Rishikesh:
"........Women and Sudras are debarred by social rules from the study of the Vedas. ...."]


Men must make their women dependent day and night, and keep under their own control those who are attached to sensory objects. Her father guards her in childhood, her husband guards her in youth, and her sons guard her in old age. A woman is not fit for independence. Manusmriti 9.2-3


They (women) make a lie appear as truth, and a truth appear as a lie. The Mahabharata Anusasana Parva, Section XXXIX


Addressing Shakuntala, Dushmanta said:
"Women generally speak untruth" The Mahabharata Adi Parva, Section LXXIV


Yudhishthira (addressing Bhishma) said:
Women in particular, the Rishis have said, are false in behaviour. Women in particular have been declared in the ordinances to be false. In the very Vedas one may read that women are false. The Mahabharata Anusasana Parva, Section XIX


Women do not care for beauty, nor is their attention fixed on age; (thinking), '(It is enough that) he is a man,' they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however carefully they may be guarded in this (world). Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct. For women no (sacramental) rite (is performed) with sacred texts, thus the law is settled; women (who are) destitute of strength and destitute of (the knowledge of) Vedic texts, (are as impure as) falsehood (itself), that is a fixed rule. Manusmriti 9.14-18


For women there is no ornament more valuable than their husbands. Valmiki Ramayana Sunder Kanda, 16-26


A damsel whose menses begin to appear (while she is living) at her father's house, before she has been betrothed to a man, has to be considered as a degraded woman: by taking her (without the consent of her kinsmen) a man commits no wrong. Vishnusmriti 24.41


"Lord Indra himself has said, 'The mind of woman cannot be disciplined; she has very little intelligence.' " Rig Veda 8.33.17

Sage Ashtavakra said:
Women can never be their own mistresses. This is the opinion of the Creator himself, viz., that a woman never deserves to be independent. There is not a single woman in the three worlds that deserves to be regarded as the mistress of her own self. The father protects her while she is a maiden. The husband protects her while she is in youth. Sons protect her when she is aged. Women can never be independent as long as they live. The Mahabharata Anusasana Parva, Section XX

Even if destitute of virtue, or seeking pleasure (elsewhere), or devoid of good qualities, a husband must be constantly worshipped as a god by a faithful wife. Manusmriti 5.154

Arjuna said:
When irreligion is prominent in the family, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupt, and from the degradation of womanhood, O descendant of Vrishni, comes unwanted progeny. Bhagavad Gita, Ch.1, Verse 40

Women are powerless, have no inheritance, and speak more humbly than even a bad man. Krishna Yajur Veda Taittiriya Samhita 6.5.8.2

Addressing sage Ashtavakra, the old Lady said:
The very deities of wind and fire and water, or the other celestials, O regenerate one, are not so agreeable to women as the deity of desire. Verily, women are exceedingly fond of sexual congress. Among a thousand women, or perhaps, among hundreds of thousands, sometimes only one may be found that is devoted to her husband. When under the influence of desire, they care not for family or father or mother or brother or husband or sons or husband's brother, but pursue the way that desire points out. ...Verily, in pursuit of what they consider happiness, they destroy the family to which they belong by birth or marriage, even as many queenly rivers eat away the banks that contain them. Even women that are aged are tortured by the desire of sexual union. The Creator himself had said this, quickly marking the faults of women. The Mahabharata Anusasana Parva, Section XIX & XXI

Lakshmana (addressing Sita) said:
It is the nature of women all over the world to be vicious, fickle, and sharp-tongued and to sow seeds of dissension. Valmiki Ramayana Aranya Kanda, 45.29

A discarded wife is one who has no son. ... For a wife that is without a son, is possessed with Nirriti (destruction, calamity). Shatapatha Brahmana 5.3.1.13

It is the nature of women to seduce men in this (world); for that reason the wise are never unguarded in (the company of) females. For women are able to lead astray in (this) world not only a fool, but even a learned man, and (to make) him a slave of desire and anger. One should not sit in a lonely place with one's mother, sister, or daughter; for the senses are powerful, and master even a learned man. Manusmriti 2.213-215

Bhishma said:
Women have one eternal duty in this world, viz., dependence upon and obedient service to their husbands, and as such, this one duty constitutes their only end. The Mahabharata Anusasana Parva, Section LIX

End violence against women and children now!!!

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[modern.fakir]

Some members of the forum think that Pakistanis accuse India of the rape crisis and toilet mess because of lack in our own country. My question to them is, why is CNN which is an american paper crying about there men ??...Is america also jealous of the rape rates in India ??:)

 

[NasNY]

[h=1]Man held for gunning down his wife for not bearing him a son[/h] Last Updated: Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 22:14


Chhattarpur: A man allegedly shot dead his wife at Chapra village on Tuesday, about 80km away from the district headquarters, as he was upset over the fact that he has three daughters and no son, the police said.

Identified as Ramsharan Rajput, the accused fled the spot after the crime, the police said, adding that he was, however, arrested later.

 

[NasNY]

The Excellence of bringing up Girls

By Yoosuf ibn 'Abdullaah Al-'Areefee

The encouragement to seek children covers both sons and daughters, and along with this general encouragement Islam has given special merits to seeking and bringing up girls - contrary to the thinking of the people of ignorance (age of 'Jaahiliyyah') of the past and present, since the people of ignorance - wherever and whenever found - hated (some of them 'still do') to have daughters and were grieved and angered by their births!

"And when the news of (the birth of) a female (child) is brought to any of them, his face becomes dark, and he is filled with inward grief! He hides himself from the people because of the evil of that whereof he has been informed. Shall he keep her with dishonor or bury her in the earth? Certainly, evil is their decision." (An-Nahl 16:58-59)

But the Messenger of Islam, Muhammad(saw), came elevating the status of this gift given by Allah(swt), welcoming the daughters, and raising high the importance of their upbringing with words to delight the hearts of the believing fathers and bring joy to their souls:

"Whoever takes care of two girls until they reach adulthood - he and I will come (together) on the Day of Resurrection - and he interlaced his fingers (meaning in Paradise)." (Reported by Muslim)

So can there be any greater honor given to daughter!? And for those who wish to have them and bring them up properly!? And he said in another Hadith:

"Whoever has three daughters or sisters, or two daughters of two sisters, and lives along with them in a good manner, and has patience with them, and fears Allah with regard to them will enter Paradise." (Reported by Abu Dawud, Al-Tirmidhee and others)

And in another Hadith:

"They will be a shield for him from the Fire." (Reported by Ahmad and Ibn Maajah) And along with the Messenger’s(saw) honoring the daughters with his words, we find that he also gave us a living example in his own actions and behavior - for example,

"One day he(saw) led his Companions in Prayer whilst carrying Umaamah bint Zaynab(ra) when he made rukoo’ he would put her down, then when he stood, he would pick her up." (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

So the position of daughters in Islam is very clear and the encouragement that it gives for them, and also the hatred it has for those who hate them or are grieved at their births! We know from this that hatred in some souls toward something - if found - is not a true judgement upon that thing and this is explained in the Qurn, as Allah(swt) says:

"…If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good." (An-Nisa’ 4:19)

So how many righteous women have brought happiness and well-being upon their families and their Ummah!? And how many corrupt young men have brought every form of misfortune and trial upon this Ummah!?

Therefore, it is upon the parents who have intellect to accept whatever Allah’s(swt) gift is with full joy and happiness, whether the gift is male or a female. Since its being a male or being a female is due only to Allah’s(swt) order alone - He, the One free from all imperfections - and Most High says:

"To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female (offspring) upon whom He wills, and bestows male (offspring) upon whom He wills. Or He bestows both males and females, and He renders barren who He wills. Verily, He is the All-Knower and is Able to do all things." (Ash-Shura 42:49-50)

And finally, a stern warning of the 'Day of Judgment' is given to all those people who went (still go) to the extremes of killing their (infant) daughters (or these days knowingly go for an abortion after finding out the gender of the fetus) out of fear of poverty or shying away from responsibility, superstitions or ignorant customs etc;

When the sun (with its spacious light) is folded up; When the stars fall, losing their lustre; When the mountains vanish (like a mirage); When the she-camels, ten months with young, are left untended; When the wild beasts are herded together (in the human habitations); When the oceans boil over with a swell; When the souls are sorted out, (being joined, like with like); When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned - For what crime she was killed; When the scrolls are laid open; When the world on High is unveiled; When the Blazing Fire is kindled to fierce heat; And when the Garden is brought near; (Then) shall each soul know what it has put forward."
(Qur'an 81:1-14)

The Value of Daughters in Islam



There are many hadeeths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him) which tell of the value of daughters in Islam. Here are some of them:

1. “If someone has three daughters and is patient with them and clothes them from his wealth, they will be a shield against the Fire for him.”
2. “There is no Muslim who has two daughters and takes good care of them but that he will enter the Garden.”
3. “Anyone who has three daughters and provides for them, clothes them and shows mercy to them will definitely enter the Garden.” A man from the people said, “And two daughters, Messenger of Allah?” He said, “And two.”
4. “No one has three daughters or three sisters and is good to them but that he will enter the Garden.”
5. “Shall I show you the greatest sadaqa (or one of the greatest forms of sadaqa)?” He replied, “Yes, indeed, Messenger of Allah!” He went on, “To provide for your daughter when she is returned to you and you are her sole source of provision.”

All of these sayings are authentic and have been collected by the great scholar, Imam al-Bukhari, in his book Al-Adab Al-Mufrad. Contrary to popular belief, Islam does not lessen the status of women - mothers, wives, or daughters. They are - in fact - of great value, as we learn from Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

 

[modern.fakir]

Very beautiful revision indeed !:)

The Excellence of bringing up Girls

By Yoosuf ibn 'Abdullaah Al-'Areefee

The encouragement to seek children covers both sons and daughters, and along with this general encouragement Islam has given special merits to seeking and bringing up girls - contrary to the thinking of the people of ignorance (age of 'Jaahiliyyah') of the past and present, since the people of ignorance - wherever and whenever found - hated (some of them 'still do') to have daughters and were grieved and angered by their births!

"And when the news of (the birth of) a female (child) is brought to any of them, his face becomes dark, and he is filled with inward grief! He hides himself from the people because of the evil of that whereof he has been informed. Shall he keep her with dishonor or bury her in the earth? Certainly, evil is their decision." (An-Nahl 16:58-59)

But the Messenger of Islam, Muhammad(saw), came elevating the status of this gift given by Allah(swt), welcoming the daughters, and raising high the importance of their upbringing with words to delight the hearts of the believing fathers and bring joy to their souls:

"Whoever takes care of two girls until they reach adulthood - he and I will come (together) on the Day of Resurrection - and he interlaced his fingers (meaning in Paradise)." (Reported by Muslim)

So can there be any greater honor given to daughter!? And for those who wish to have them and bring them up properly!? And he said in another Hadith:

"Whoever has three daughters or sisters, or two daughters of two sisters, and lives along with them in a good manner, and has patience with them, and fears Allah with regard to them will enter Paradise." (Reported by Abu Dawud, Al-Tirmidhee and others)

And in another Hadith:

"They will be a shield for him from the Fire." (Reported by Ahmad and Ibn Maajah) And along with the Messenger’s(saw) honoring the daughters with his words, we find that he also gave us a living example in his own actions and behavior - for example,

"One day he(saw) led his Companions in Prayer whilst carrying Umaamah bint Zaynab(ra) when he made rukoo’ he would put her down, then when he stood, he would pick her up." (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

So the position of daughters in Islam is very clear and the encouragement that it gives for them, and also the hatred it has for those who hate them or are grieved at their births! We know from this that hatred in some souls toward something - if found - is not a true judgement upon that thing and this is explained in the Qurn, as Allah(swt) says:

"…If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good." (An-Nisa’ 4:19)

So how many righteous women have brought happiness and well-being upon their families and their Ummah!? And how many corrupt young men have brought every form of misfortune and trial upon this Ummah!?

Therefore, it is upon the parents who have intellect to accept whatever Allah’s(swt) gift is with full joy and happiness, whether the gift is male or a female. Since its being a male or being a female is due only to Allah’s(swt) order alone - He, the One free from all imperfections - and Most High says:

"To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female (offspring) upon whom He wills, and bestows male (offspring) upon whom He wills. Or He bestows both males and females, and He renders barren who He wills. Verily, He is the All-Knower and is Able to do all things." (Ash-Shura 42:49-50)

And finally, a stern warning of the 'Day of Judgment' is given to all those people who went (still go) to the extremes of killing their (infant) daughters (or these days knowingly go for an abortion after finding out the gender of the fetus) out of fear of poverty or shying away from responsibility, superstitions or ignorant customs etc;

When the sun (with its spacious light) is folded up; When the stars fall, losing their lustre; When the mountains vanish (like a mirage); When the she-camels, ten months with young, are left untended; When the wild beasts are herded together (in the human habitations); When the oceans boil over with a swell; When the souls are sorted out, (being joined, like with like); When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned - For what crime she was killed; When the scrolls are laid open; When the world on High is unveiled; When the Blazing Fire is kindled to fierce heat; And when the Garden is brought near; (Then) shall each soul know what it has put forward."
(Qur'an 81:1-14)

The Value of Daughters in Islam



There are many hadeeths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him) which tell of the value of daughters in Islam. Here are some of them:

1. “If someone has three daughters and is patient with them and clothes them from his wealth, they will be a shield against the Fire for him.”
2. “There is no Muslim who has two daughters and takes good care of them but that he will enter the Garden.”
3. “Anyone who has three daughters and provides for them, clothes them and shows mercy to them will definitely enter the Garden.” A man from the people said, “And two daughters, Messenger of Allah?” He said, “And two.”
4. “No one has three daughters or three sisters and is good to them but that he will enter the Garden.”
5. “Shall I show you the greatest sadaqa (or one of the greatest forms of sadaqa)?” He replied, “Yes, indeed, Messenger of Allah!” He went on, “To provide for your daughter when she is returned to you and you are her sole source of provision.”

All of these sayings are authentic and have been collected by the great scholar, Imam al-Bukhari, in his book Al-Adab Al-Mufrad. Contrary to popular belief, Islam does not lessen the status of women - mothers, wives, or daughters. They are - in fact - of great value, as we learn from Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

 

[iron-man]

problem is Hinduism, nothing else ,real face of Hindu ,
biggest terrorist state

 

[Wadaich]

The Excellence of bringing up Girls

By Yoosuf ibn 'Abdullaah Al-'Areefee

The encouragement to seek children covers both sons and daughters, and along with this general encouragement Islam has given special merits to seeking and bringing up girls - contrary to the thinking of the people of ignorance (age of 'Jaahiliyyah') of the past and present, since the people of ignorance - wherever and whenever found - hated (some of them 'still do') to have daughters and were grieved and angered by their births!

"And when the news of (the birth of) a female (child) is brought to any of them, his face becomes dark, and he is filled with inward grief! He hides himself from the people because of the evil of that whereof he has been informed. Shall he keep her with dishonor or bury her in the earth? Certainly, evil is their decision." (An-Nahl 16:58-59)

But the Messenger of Islam, Muhammad(saw), came elevating the status of this gift given by Allah(swt), welcoming the daughters, and raising high the importance of their upbringing with words to delight the hearts of the believing fathers and bring joy to their souls:

"Whoever takes care of two girls until they reach adulthood - he and I will come (together) on the Day of Resurrection - and he interlaced his fingers (meaning in Paradise)." (Reported by Muslim)

So can there be any greater honor given to daughter!? And for those who wish to have them and bring them up properly!? And he said in another Hadith:

"Whoever has three daughters or sisters, or two daughters of two sisters, and lives along with them in a good manner, and has patience with them, and fears Allah with regard to them will enter Paradise." (Reported by Abu Dawud, Al-Tirmidhee and others)

And in another Hadith:

"They will be a shield for him from the Fire." (Reported by Ahmad and Ibn Maajah) And along with the Messenger’s(saw) honoring the daughters with his words, we find that he also gave us a living example in his own actions and behavior - for example,

"One day he(saw) led his Companions in Prayer whilst carrying Umaamah bint Zaynab(ra) when he made rukoo’ he would put her down, then when he stood, he would pick her up." (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

So the position of daughters in Islam is very clear and the encouragement that it gives for them, and also the hatred it has for those who hate them or are grieved at their births! We know from this that hatred in some souls toward something - if found - is not a true judgement upon that thing and this is explained in the Qurn, as Allah(swt) says:

"…If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good." (An-Nisa’ 4:19)

So how many righteous women have brought happiness and well-being upon their families and their Ummah!? And how many corrupt young men have brought every form of misfortune and trial upon this Ummah!?

Therefore, it is upon the parents who have intellect to accept whatever Allah’s(swt) gift is with full joy and happiness, whether the gift is male or a female. Since its being a male or being a female is due only to Allah’s(swt) order alone - He, the One free from all imperfections - and Most High says:

"To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female (offspring) upon whom He wills, and bestows male (offspring) upon whom He wills. Or He bestows both males and females, and He renders barren who He wills. Verily, He is the All-Knower and is Able to do all things." (Ash-Shura 42:49-50)

And finally, a stern warning of the 'Day of Judgment' is given to all those people who went (still go) to the extremes of killing their (infant) daughters (or these days knowingly go for an abortion after finding out the gender of the fetus) out of fear of poverty or shying away from responsibility, superstitions or ignorant customs etc;

When the sun (with its spacious light) is folded up; When the stars fall, losing their lustre; When the mountains vanish (like a mirage); When the she-camels, ten months with young, are left untended; When the wild beasts are herded together (in the human habitations); When the oceans boil over with a swell; When the souls are sorted out, (being joined, like with like); When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned - For what crime she was killed; When the scrolls are laid open; When the world on High is unveiled; When the Blazing Fire is kindled to fierce heat; And when the Garden is brought near; (Then) shall each soul know what it has put forward."
(Qur'an 81:1-14)

The Value of Daughters in Islam



There are many hadeeths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him) which tell of the value of daughters in Islam. Here are some of them:

1. “If someone has three daughters and is patient with them and clothes them from his wealth, they will be a shield against the Fire for him.”
2. “There is no Muslim who has two daughters and takes good care of them but that he will enter the Garden.”
3. “Anyone who has three daughters and provides for them, clothes them and shows mercy to them will definitely enter the Garden.” A man from the people said, “And two daughters, Messenger of Allah?” He said, “And two.”
4. “No one has three daughters or three sisters and is good to them but that he will enter the Garden.”
5. “Shall I show you the greatest sadaqa (or one of the greatest forms of sadaqa)?” He replied, “Yes, indeed, Messenger of Allah!” He went on, “To provide for your daughter when she is returned to you and you are her sole source of provision.”

All of these sayings are authentic and have been collected by the great scholar, Imam al-Bukhari, in his book Al-Adab Al-Mufrad. Contrary to popular belief, Islam does not lessen the status of women - mothers, wives, or daughters. They are - in fact - of great value, as we learn from Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

May Allah :subhanahu: bless U and your family. (Ameen)

 

[Pukaar]

Women lack self-respect. If we respect ourselves, it will reflect in our personality and attitude and then no man would dare to lay his hands on us. It is the mothers' responsibility to shape the society. When the mothers are good, the whole society is good. India should educate its mothers.

 

[Unicorn]

Some members of the forum think that Pakistanis accuse India of the rape crisis and toilet mess because of lack in our own country. My question to them is, why is CNN which is an american paper crying about there men ??...Is america also jealous of the rape rates in India ??:)

There is one big difference America and the West can point fingers at India because there societies and laws treat women with many folds better than India. Pakistanis can't when they themselves treat women much worse than Indians.(yapping)

 

[Imranpak]

Bharati men are simply frustrated. They lack self respect more then anything else.

 

[NasNY]

1. This is very nice on paper just like riba but Riba is is practiced right up to their eyeballs by Pakistanis.
2. OK Indian lead the world in female infanticide. Can you kindly explain why the Muslim world is close second to India in female infanticide statically. It reminds me a Shair by a wise man: Pad pad darog khushi hoi, bekhabar baad Bakhi,
3. they(people of books) find happiness in reading verses but than actions are full of ignorance.

1. Riba Yes it is practiced by the government of Pakistan. and the elite 1% . But many like myself don't, i don't have any statistics but i think majority do not.

2. 'Muslim word' is very broad and generalized terms, can you post the link to your statistics.

I can only speak for myself, i have a large circle of friends and family, and at least 7 doctors in my extended family. and many more friends related to healthcare.

I have on occasion raised the topic, with them, and they all came to a conclusion that they can't definitely say they have heard of a case, but it does exist mostly

in the poverty stricken areas. of Sindh and Punjab. I cant base my experience on all the population of Pakistan. But waiting for your statistics post.

3. we don't find happiness, we find wisdom In the Quran and Hadith. We continue to read and post for others to take advantage of the wisdom in order to make

ourselves a better human being. As we continue to read, understand and enlighten ourselves, we as humans hope our actions will improve.

 

[modern.fakir]

Your a liar !! Pakistanis treat women much better than indians as we are NOT the Rape capital of the world, our female infanticide ratio is way better and we dont ban mannequins [hilar][hilar][hilar]

There is one big difference America and the West can point fingers at India because there societies and laws treat women with many folds better than India. Pakistanis can't when they themselves treat women much worse than Indians.(yapping)

 

[jaanmark]

India is unsafe for all Indian too , that why they try theirs best to stilled in UK/ USA/ and their countries see the international papers.
What a shame for them .

 

[Mehrushka]

Women lack self-respect. If we respect ourselves, it will reflect in our personality and attitude and then no man would dare to lay his hands on us. It is the mothers' responsibility to shape the society. When the mothers are good, the whole society is good. India should educate its mothers.

excuse me,what are you trying to say!

 

[VoteME]

This is very nice on paper just like riba but Riba is is practiced right up to their eyeballs by Pakistanis.

OK Indian lead the world in female infanticide. Can you kindly explain why the Muslim world is close second to India in female infanticide statically.

It reminds me a Shair by a wise man:

Pad pad darog khushi hoi, bekhabar baad Bakhi,

they(people of books) find happiness in reading verses but than actions are full of ignorance.

At-least, we have something nice on paper, from which in the extreme cases at-least 1 person will be following it. But can you say the same about yourself? We need answer, why are Indians na-mard? why, you would know the answer. Why, Indians are barbaric and choose that way of life of barbarism? Hmmm.. may be that is the reason you left India, I can understand, you also think that India is a barbaric country, hmmm....

 

[Unicorn]

1. Riba Yes it is practiced by the government of Pakistan. and the elite 1% . But many like myself don't, i don't have any statistics but i think majority do not.

2. 'Muslim word' is very broad and generalized terms, can you post the link to your statistics.

I can only speak for myself, i have a large circle of friends and family, and at least 7 doctors in my extended family. and many more friends related to healthcare.

I have on occasion raised the topic, with them, and they all came to a conclusion that they can't definitely say they have heard of a case, but it does exist mostly

in the poverty stricken areas. of Sindh and Punjab. I cant base my experience on all the population of Pakistan. But waiting for your statistics post.

3. we don't find happiness, we find wisdom In the Quran and Hadith. We continue to read and post for others to take advantage of the wisdom in order to make

ourselves a better human being. As we continue to read, understand and enlighten ourselves, we as humans hope our actions will improve.

I can say the same thing about myself and my family we don't know anyone who is involved in female infanticide.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/07/20/pakistan.infanticide/index.html

 

[Unicorn]

At-least, we have something nice on paper, from which in the extreme cases at-least 1 person will be following it. But can you say the same about yourself? We need answer, why are Indians na-mard? why, you would know the answer. Why, Indians are barbaric and choose that way of life of barbarism? Hmmm.. may be that is the reason you left India, I can understand, you also think that India is a barbaric country, hmmm....

Since Pakistan is worse than India with regards to the treatment of women therefore you should explain as to why Pakistanis are so barbaric to women. Here is the list of best/worst countries for women. India at 141 Pakistan 158

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-worst-nations-for-women/20110929.htm#5

 

[VoteME]

Since Pakistan is worse than India with regards to the treatment of women therefore you should explain as to why Pakistanis are so barbaric to women. Here is the list of best/worst countries for women. India at 141 Pakistan 158

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-worst-nations-for-women/20110929.htm#5

(clap) Leave it upto Unicorn to defend his a$$wipe country. You are quoting me from an Indian news source, they can be right about India but 100% sure they will put Pakistan below them just to feel a bit relieved or superior. Just admit the fact that your country is sh!t and that's why you left it. You see, I'll give you a proof how many Pakistani women are on this forum? You see any 1 abusing them on this forum? How many Indian women are on this forum? None(Dont give me that its a Pakistani forum, why are Indian men here then?). May be they all are busy worshiping their husbands or getting beaten up or rapped[hilar]

 

[desicad]

(clap) Leave it upto Unicorn to defend his a$$wipe country. You are quoting me from an Indian news source, they can be right about India but 100% sure they will put Pakistan below them just to feel a bit relieved or superior. -------------------------------------

original newsweek report.........pakistan is one of the worst place for women, almost at the bottom of the table.........
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-worst-countries-for-women-the-full-list.html

 

[Dhiraj Kumar]

South asia is bad for women. Indians have been flooded by theatric commercialization, commodification of women. Every movie says same story: Woman in alone, she needs a man/brother, she is helpless. Lately the religious values is on decline. Pakistan is lucky to be a religious islamic state and I genuinely find pakistanis more trustworthy . Religious ethics frame one's personality!!