Dear all participating members of religion threads.

[faqira786]

Finally, we come to this conclusion, I told the moderate moths before. I have told personally many people that this website is SIASAT.pk. This website is not for islamic discussion, Educated People should understand and decide what they want to do today? either siasat or religion and then logon to those website, There are many religiosu website where people can give their important input.

1- Personally, you can give islamic reference related to pakistan politics because islam and Pakistan go together. however this website is specialize on siasat.pk so its main mission is siasat and people should come to this website for siasat. so for that reason, People should not start religious thread.
2- SIASAT.PK team build a new website for islam.pk where people can freely talk on religion.
3- They team of the website, redesign a website and ask a user where forum do you want to logon either religiosu or siasat

 

[abbasiali]

I am really very thankful to all members who have so contributed overwhelmingly, and definitely looking for more feed back in this regard.

Looking forward to hear more in this regard.

 

[atensari]

Dear Ali Abbasi:

I would like to highlight few of your comments:

1.“Since siasat.pk is a siasat base website, we are not suppose to permit religious thread in our forum”
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What is the connection between Siasat and posts related to Veena Malik, Muni Badnam and Sheela ki Jawani in particular and other filmi, music, weather and sport related threads in general.

2.“but on the contrary despite our several reminders our friends stubbornly keep posted religion base threads, which further converts into sectarian debate”
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• • Are posts related to politics not converts in to Linguistic, Regional and Provincial debates?
  • Did members follow code of forum while discussing entertainment world’s scandals, match and spot fixing?

In the light of first rule, all entertainment and sports related threads must be closed immediately. All political thread should be checked and closes incase material posted do not follow the code of conduct.

Essence of the discussion is that few members’ deliberately targeting religious thread with the intention to close and most probably ban them, whereas defined rules and code of conduct equally applies on non-religious threads as well.

 

[famamdani]

good say bro Atensari...............................................

 

[abbasiali]

Dear Ali Abbasi:

I would like to highlight few of your comments:

1.“Since siasat.pk is a siasat base website, we are not suppose to permit religious thread in our forum”
​

What is the connection between Siasat and posts related to Veena Malik, Muni Badnam and Sheela ki Jawani in particular and other filmi, music, weather and sport related threads in general.

2.“but on the contrary despite our several reminders our friends stubbornly keep posted religion base threads, which further converts into sectarian debate”
​

• • Are posts related to politics not converts in to Linguistic, Regional and Provincial debates?
  • Did members follow code of forum while discussing entertainment world’s scandals, match and spot fixing?

In the light of first rule, all entertainment and sports related threads must be closed immediately. All political thread should be checked and closes incase material posted do not follow the code of conduct.

Essence of the discussion is that few members’ deliberately targeting religious thread with the intention to close and most probably ban them, whereas defined rules and code of conduct equally applies on non-religious threads as well.

Dear Atensari,

Do you have any contribution for this thread? I will request you to concentrate on this thread, think and do let us know, if you have to contribute any value able suggestions.

Regards

 

[Logical]

i can debate my wahabi brothers but shia shoud be kicked out if religious duscussions they are a fitna and a jewish creation

Abbasi sahib

Your response to this 'nasir ahmed' speaks volumes about your biased attitude! sorry Sir, but he is outright abusing 15-20% of Pakistanis, and you don't have the guts to delete his post and ban him.

Please give me permission to respond to this clown in the same tone that he used, or delete his mental diarrhea..

 

[Cheeko]

A long awaited thread from Abbasi brother. I dont think any one would mind debating on religion and the more the discussion the more all sides come to know about one anothers views. Discussion brings every one closer but only a positive one. Targetting some sect deliberately for the purpose of maligning and imposing one views should be taken into account. No one likes that their religious elders be maligned and abused just because some one doesnt agrees with his views. I will also take care about it in future. Debates should be held with respect and it should not be done for the mere purpose of winning and losing rather for learning and exchanging. No one should be allowed to bully the other person. Difference of opinion isnt a new issue in religious circles and thus every one should be free to present their views. I would go a step ahead and say that even Qadianis who every Muslim including me says r non muslims should be allowed to participate in the debates. Even Christians and Hindus because as I know that Islam is right so I should have no fear in arguing with those on the incorrect path.

 

[Veila Mast]

A long awaited thread from Abbasi brother. I dont think any one would mind debating on religion and the more the discussion the more all sides come to know about one anothers views. Discussion brings every one closer but only a positive one. Targetting some sect deliberately for the purpose of maligning and imposing one views should be taken into account. No one likes that their religious elders be maligned and abused just because some one doesnt agrees with his views. I will also take care about it in future. Debates should be held with respect and it should not be done for the mere purpose of winning and losing rather for learning and exchanging. No one should be allowed to bully the other person. Difference of opinion isnt a new issue in religious circles and thus every one should be free to present their views. I would go a step ahead and say that even Qadianis who every Muslim including me says r non muslims should be allowed to participate in the debates. Even Christians and Hindus because as I know that Islam is right so I should have no fear in arguing with those on the incorrect path.

Cheeko Bhai, I got a feeling:

Probably Mr. Pakistan and Babadeena are not feeling comfortable since you joined in, so they are trying to take umberalla of MODERATORS in order to restrict "SOME" people posting their arguments.

I have not seen such "HIGH" concerns ever before.

Lol!!!!!

 

[Cheeko]

Cheeko Bhai, I got a feeling:

Probably Mr. Pakistan and Babadeena are not feeling comfortable since you joined in, so they are trying to take umberalla of MODERATORS in order to restrict "SOME" people posting their arguments.

I have not seen such "HIGH" concerns ever before.

Lol!!!!!

You joined in January Veilo bhai whereas I am here since November '10 and so it looks that you r the target. Lol!!!!

 

[babadeena]

Cheeko Bhai, I got a feeling:

Probably Mr. Pakistan and Babadeena are not feeling comfortable since you joined in, so they are trying to take umberalla of MODERATORS in order to restrict "SOME" people posting their arguments.
I have not seen such "HIGH" concerns ever before.
Lol!!!!!

Allah does not like Takbar and I am very humble in my posture, let us see
once mode decide about their option, "Gora bee hazar tay meedan vee hazar"
grid u up, man.

 

[babadeena]

You joined in January Veilo bhai whereas I am here since November '10 and so it looks that you r the target. Lol!!!!

It is what you or he think that he joined in January,
LOL!!!!

 

[abbasiali]

Abbasi sahib

Your response to this 'nasir ahmed' speaks volumes about your biased attitude! sorry Sir, but he is outright abusing 15-20% of Pakistanis, and you don't have the guts to delete his post and ban him.

Please give me permission to respond to this clown in the same tone that he used, or delete his mental diarrhea..

My Dear, may I ask you the topic of this thread, forget, who is saying what......I need some serious response in this regard.

 

[maliksum]

Insha Allah no one in exclusion list, however one reservation is there, but I am hopeful, with this ongoing discussion, we will find out the solution....Insha Allah...

NO qadiyani propaganda and propagation PLEASE.

 

[Cheeko]

Abbasi bhai I also want to make a request that no member should be allowed to say to a Muslim that he is an unbeliever or out of Islam because of certain reasons below:

Narrated Usama bin Zaid: Allah's Apostle sent us towards Al-Huruqa, and in the morning we attacked them and defeated them. I and an Ansari man followed a man from among them and when we took him over, he said, "La ilaha illal-Lah." On hearing that, the Ansari man stopped, but I killed him by stabbing him with my spear. When we returned, the Prophet came to know about that and he said, "O Usama! Did you kill him after he had said "La ilaha ilal-Lah?" I said, "But he said so only to save himself." The Prophet kept on repeating that so often that I wished I had not embraced Islam before that day.
Chapter 59, Number 568: (Sahih Bukhari)




[FONT=verdana,geneva][/FONT][FONT=verdana,geneva]Anas bin Malik (ra) narrates from the Prophet (Peace be upon him) who said: Three things are the roots of faith (1) To refrain from (killing) a person who says “La ILaha IL Allah” (2) Not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits (3) and also not to declare him out of Islam due to any of his deed. Jihad continues from the day I was sent as Prophet to the day that last member of my community fight with the Dajjal. The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine Decree.[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,geneva][Sunnan Abu Dawud, Volume No. 2, Hadith # 2170]


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[Cheeko]

NO qadiyani propaganda and propagation PLEASE.

I will leave it to the mods to decide but both of us know that qadianis dont have any logical explanations for their beliefs so let them participate and who knows some of them might realise the truth and convert to Islam.

 

[Raaz]

Very good, Abbasi bhai,

But is difficult to do. The reason is our Temprament .

Some people start a thread , not for information , but to discuss the already unsolved , and disputed topics.

Some wants to disgrace Pakistan, and they have religious points underneath.

Some wants to disgrace even Our Prophet ( PBUH)


and everyone is doing Coppy- paste. Specially such people. Always coppy- paste.

Better to express their views. in their own words.

This is better friendship level, and understanding.

It is hard for u to check and block every thread.

It is our duty , no make the space friendly. and considerable good for everyone.

Like Allah Said in Quran , O Muhammad (pbuh) , it is your softness , if u would be a little harsh on them. they would not come to u. ( something like that, but meaning is same)

So I will request people to discuss in a gentle and soft way, after all we r all brothers, except non- muslims, and we are brothers with them too being a human.

Please do not start a war on religious topics. Guidance is from Allah Tala only.

Regards, Ma-Aslaam.

 

[atensari]

Dear Atensari,
Do you have any contribution for this thread? I will request you to concentrate on this thread, think and do let us know, if you have to contribute any value able suggestions.
Regards

I believe your team is already doing and done best by creating “Islamic Corner”, deleting and closing threads those cross threshold limits. Members need periodical warnings which are being issued time to time. What else can you do?

“This website is not for islamic discussion, Educated People should understand and decide what they want to do today?”.
I will not repeat my earlier comments.

Banning religious threads will be a disappointing decision.

 

[abbasiali]

I believe your team is already doing and done best by creating “Islamic Corner”, deleting and closing threads those cross threshold limits. Members need periodical warnings which are being issued time to time. What else can you do?

“This website is not for islamic discussion, Educated People should understand and decide what they want to do today?”.
I will not repeat my earlier comments.

Banning religious threads will be a disappointing decision.

Brother would you be able to show me where have you seen, Islamic or religious threads have been banned. I have close few existing threads, which will be reopen with new format........but still would like to see my quotes as mentioned by you above.....regards....

 

[Doorandesh]

Good luck with making rules. I do not think that anything will work. All moderaters need is to look for offensive posts, bad language, and promotion of illegal activities. Other than that limiting discussion will be censorship, bias and a lot more work for moderaters.

 

[atensari]

Brother would you be able to show me where have you seen, Islamic or religious threads have been banned. I have close few existing threads, which will be reopen with new format........but still would like to see my quotes as mentioned by you above.....regards....

Brother, I did not said "Religious threads are being banned" what is said is "Banning religious threads will be a disappointing decision."