Copying goes hi-tech in MBBS exams in Bangalore - More Munnabhai's :)

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Copying goes hi-tech in MBBS exams

SEETHALAKSHMI S, TNNJan 2, 2013, 05.10AM IST


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BANGALORE: Paper chits are passe.
Munnabhais are going hi-tech when it comes to copying. Invigilators of the Rajiv Gandhi University of Health Sciences (RGUHS) were recently flummoxed by the innovative cheating manner of an MBBS student. The student had worn a custom-made shirt fitted with devices like a lapel mike and an electric circuit inside the collar. And his answers were being transmitted from Hyderabad.

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Last week, the University nabbed another student, in his final year MBBS, who had a similar hi-tech copying device fitted into his vest.

Custom-made shirts fitted with button scanners and lapel mikes, mobile phones without the outer shell and a scanner in the finger ring are some of the devices used
for cheating during MBBS exams in the state. And
how much do these students spend on the equipment? Nearly Rs 1.9 lakh.[hilar]

"During investigation we found that the shirts/vests are shared by students for a price. The answers are transmitted from hostels and sometimes from other cities. Often if there is a problem during transmission, the students get nervous. Their body language gives them away," the officials said. [hilar]

What has shocked the officials is the painstaking planning that goes before execution. "Students told us they rehearsed the entire process for more than a month before the examinations to ensure nothing goes wrong," RGUHS registrar N S Ashok Kumar told TOI.
For the students, the investment on the costly equipment is worth it until they are caught and banned for six months, he said. "The shirt/vest is stitched with a radio frequency transmitter which is the size of a small matchbox, the collar of the shirt has a lapel mike as small as the finger nail. The answers are transmitted via bluetooth earphone. The battery lasts for four hours," he said.
Some students told the investigating officials that they indulged in copying because they were forced by their parents to study medicine. RGUHS vice-chancellor K S Sriprakash has ordered a probe into the incidents. "We have to initiate several urgent measures to ensure this dangerous trend does not continue or escalate," he said.

'We cheat because parents want us to study medicine'

Candidates have started using hi-tech equipment to clear MBBS examinations in the state.

"The shirt/vest is stitched with a radio frequency transmitter which is the size of a small matchbox, the collar of the shirt has a lapel mike as small as the fingernail. The answers are transmitted via Bluetooth earphone. The battery lasts for four hours," said N S Ashok Kumar, registrar of Rajiv Gandhi University of Health Sciences (RGUHS).

Some students told the investigating officials that they indulged in copying because they were forced by their parents to study medicine. RGUHS vicechancellor K S Sriprakash has ordered a probe into the incidents. "We have to initiate several urgent measures to ensure this dangerous trend does not continue or escalate," he said.


http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...6111036_1_mbbs-exams-mbbs-student-rguhs-plans
 
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modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Whats amazing is ...the answers to the tests were still coming from Hyderabad ..a center of former Muslim Mughal Excellence ...SubhanAllah (bigsmile) ...Even today the bharatis are benefitting from our ancestors :lol:
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We also have a munna joghini [MENTION=13871]Unicorn[/MENTION] here ...I would love to hear his dumb comments on this ....Congrats on getting a reputed degree joghnii ..from the nursing school that is [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]
 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
well to be very honest ,education system in india is much better then pakistan. if you come across the world, you will see indian professionals everywhere, UK's software houses are full of indian programmers, gulf countries are full of indian engineers and managers,
a very simple example of indian education and pakistani education is our head of states, Indians have chosen PHD dr Manmohan singh as PM and we have chosen zardari as karta dharta of everything.. bitter truth....(serious)
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sorry brother but i do not agree with you. The reality is the Indian education system is on Par with the rest of the asian countries in the region.

Most of the graduates in international countries go through local education in that foreign country before being employed, and that is the same case with Pakistanis and any other nationality.

You'll be surprised to know that less than 10 % of the engineering and less that 15% of the business graduates are actually employable and these are not my words here read Indian media saying this :

[h=1]'85 percent graduates in India not employable'[/h]
http://www.rediff.com/getahead/slid...raduates-in-india-not-employable/20110829.htm

[h=2]Study: Less Than 10% of Indian MBA Graduates Are ‘Employable’[/h]
http://www.anirudhsethireport.com/study-less-than-10-of-indian-mba-graduates-are-employable/

And about the medical graduates ...you can read up there as to what they are upto :lol:

In the gulf countries indian graduates have just flooded the market and Muslim hospitality is such that we like to help the poor. Although even the dubai authorities are sick of the labor market saturation as the Indians work for extremely low wages making it difficult for both them and others to make a decent living !

[h=1]New visa rules may deter Indians seeking jobs in Dubai[/h]
http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...visa-rules-conference-visas-visa-requirements



Have you ever dealt with a software house in India ?? (bigsmile) ...Barring a few top companies like Wipro and Info sys their are major issues with software outsourcing and international countries are now moving to other destinations. the cost advantage is also diminishing and the call center industry is moving to the Phillipines or Central USA !

[h=1]Outsourcing: A Passage Out of India[/h]
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-15/outsourcing-a-passage-out-of-india

[h=2]India Losing its Status as Call Center Capital of the World[/h]http://call-center-services.tmcnet.com/topics/call-center-services/articles/230417-india-losing-its-status-as-call-center-capital.htm


Now the example of the leader you gave me is more reminiscent to what our RELIGIOUS education says (bigsmile) . That the nations deeds will be our leaders. So right now our deeds are not the best and hence you have zardari. When we improve our deeds the qualifications of our president will also increase.

Having a realistic look at everything. India is in the same boat as the rest of us and being a bigger country it has more resources and hence more exploitation. But to say they are better is a far stretch. Keep in mind i have posted all articles from indian sources ...just to be bipartisan (bigsmile)

well to be very honest ,education system in india is much better then pakistan. if you come across the world, you will see indian professionals everywhere, UK's software houses are full of indian programmers, gulf countries are full of indian engineers and managers,
a very simple example of indian education and pakistani education is our head of states, Indians have chosen PHD dr Manmohan singh as PM and we have chosen zardari as karta dharta of everything.. bitter truth....(serious)
 

haidhu80

MPA (400+ posts)
Sorry brother but i do not agree with you. The reality is the Indian education system is on Par with the rest of the asian countries in the region.

Most of the graduates in international countries go through local education in that foreign country before being employed, and that is the same case with Pakistanis and any other nationality.

You'll be surprised to know that less than 10 % of the engineering and less that 15% of the business graduates are actually employable and these are not my words here read Indian media saying this :

'85 percent graduates in India not employable'


http://www.rediff.com/getahead/slid...raduates-in-india-not-employable/20110829.htm

Study: Less Than 10% of Indian MBA Graduates Are ‘Employable’


http://www.anirudhsethireport.com/study-less-than-10-of-indian-mba-graduates-are-employable/

And about the medical graduates ...you can read up there as to what they are upto :lol:

In the gulf countries indian graduates have just flooded the market and Muslim hospitality is such that we like to help the poor. Although even the dubai authorities are sick of the labor market saturation as the Indians work for extremely low wages making it difficult for both them and others to make a decent living !

New visa rules may deter Indians seeking jobs in Dubai


http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...visa-rules-conference-visas-visa-requirements



Have you ever dealt with a software house in India ?? (bigsmile) ...Barring a few top companies like Wipro and Info sys their are major issues with software outsourcing and international countries are now moving to other destinations. the cost advantage is also diminishing and the call center industry is moving to the Phillipines or Central USA !

Outsourcing: A Passage Out of India


http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-15/outsourcing-a-passage-out-of-india

India Losing its Status as Call Center Capital of the World

http://call-center-services.tmcnet....-losing-its-status-as-call-center-capital.htm


Now the example of the leader you gave me is more reminiscent to what our RELIGIOUS education says (bigsmile) . That the nations deeds will be our leaders. So right now our deeds are not the best and hence you have zardari. When we improve our deeds the qualifications of our president will also increase.

Having a realistic look at everything. India is in the same boat as the rest of us and being a bigger country it has more resources and hence more exploitation. But to say they are better is a far stretch. Keep in mind i have posted all articles from indian sources ...just to be bipartisan (bigsmile)


PERFECT ANSWER... I wanted to reply like this but I have to admit that I wouldn't have replied the way you replied.... One small addition to your comments is that when we look at the population ratio, they should have many times more professionals than Pakistanis abroad.... Alhamdulillah we are everywhere and still we not only compete with Indians but also with rest of the world. Once again I have to dear that PERFECT ANSWER.....:biggthumpup:
 

Unicorn

Banned
Ahh joghini ...just because we caught you redhanded doesnt mean you start hurling accusations at us ....dont be a spoil sport ! [hilar][hilar]

I admit right now your education system is far better. Last year we had Aqua Waqaar, a product of Pakistani education system, who INVENTED ground baking science and you had a high school kid who got the highest marks in " Oracle " and is among top ten working on windows os programming. He discovered that the viruses are result of cracked copies of Microsoft software.[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]
 

guest

Councller (250+ posts)
when it says large number are not employable, it doesnt mean they are not educated in their designated fields well. it just means that the education curriculum is not geared towards industry, i.e. they are not ready for joining industry and being productive first day on the job. the reason for this is in india, while people are getting degrees, there is not as much opportunity to get internships etc. you either do not read things carefully, or are too happy when you read news which you think is anti-india to bother beyond reading a few lines. anyways i dont expect you to behave any other way.

as far as software/hardware/engineering is concerned, go to any top ivy league univeristy or the top 100 univs in US/UK etc etc, it is packed with indian students. if you go to google, intel, IBM or any other big tech company and randomly shout an indian name (say raj to be cliched) there will be 5 people who turn their heads. i know you do not like that, and also it doesnt have anything to do with how well the education system in india works, but it is the honest truth.

this has become such a cliche that in soaps in american tv, (like Big Bang theory) or Asok in Dilbert comics are all indian characters who play the role of nerdy scientists or physicists etc.


Sorry brother but i do not agree with you. The reality is the Indian education system is on Par with the rest of the asian countries in the region.

Most of the graduates in international countries go through local education in that foreign country before being employed, and that is the same case with Pakistanis and any other nationality.

You'll be surprised to know that less than 10 % of the engineering and less that 15% of the business graduates are actually employable and these are not my words here read Indian media saying this :

'85 percent graduates in India not employable'


http://www.rediff.com/getahead/slid...raduates-in-india-not-employable/20110829.htm

Study: Less Than 10% of Indian MBA Graduates Are Employable


http://www.anirudhsethireport.com/study-less-than-10-of-indian-mba-graduates-are-employable/

And about the medical graduates ...you can read up there as to what they are upto :lol:

In the gulf countries indian graduates have just flooded the market and Muslim hospitality is such that we like to help the poor. Although even the dubai authorities are sick of the labor market saturation as the Indians work for extremely low wages making it difficult for both them and others to make a decent living !

New visa rules may deter Indians seeking jobs in Dubai


http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...visa-rules-conference-visas-visa-requirements



Have you ever dealt with a software house in India ?? (bigsmile) ...Barring a few top companies like Wipro and Info sys their are major issues with software outsourcing and international countries are now moving to other destinations. the cost advantage is also diminishing and the call center industry is moving to the Phillipines or Central USA !

Outsourcing: A Passage Out of India


http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-15/outsourcing-a-passage-out-of-india

India Losing its Status as Call Center Capital of the World

http://call-center-services.tmcnet....-losing-its-status-as-call-center-capital.htm


Now the example of the leader you gave me is more reminiscent to what our RELIGIOUS education says (bigsmile) . That the nations deeds will be our leaders. So right now our deeds are not the best and hence you have zardari. When we improve our deeds the qualifications of our president will also increase.

Having a realistic look at everything. India is in the same boat as the rest of us and being a bigger country it has more resources and hence more exploitation. But to say they are better is a far stretch. Keep in mind i have posted all articles from indian sources ...just to be bipartisan (bigsmile)
 
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Unicorn

Banned
when it says large number are not employable, it doesnt mean they are not educated in their designated fields well. it just means that the education curriculum is not geared towards industry, i.e. they are not ready for joining industry and being productive first day on the job. the reason for this is in india, while people are getting degrees, there is not as much opportunity to get internships etc. you either do not read things carefully, or are too happy when you read news which you think is anti-india to bother beyond reading a few lines. anyways i dont expect you to behave any other way.

as far as software/hardware/engineering is concerned, go to any top ivy league univeristy or the top 100 univs in US/UK etc etc, it is packed with indian students. if you go to google, intel, IBM or any other big tech company and randomly shout an indian name (say raj to be cliched) there will be 5 people who turn their heads. i know you do not like that, and also it doesnt have anything to do with how well the education system in india works, but it is the honest truth.

this has become such a cliche that in soaps in american tv, (like Big Bang theory) or Asok in Dilbert comics are all indian characters who play the role of nerdy scientists or physicists etc.

Modern Fakir have his own statics he goes by them, whick includes articles that are published in Indian news papers that are self critical. Lot of the statics he cooks up when he takes a few puffers of Zaid Hamid brand of Hash.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Modern Fakir have his own statics he goes by them, whick includes articles that are published in Indian news papers that are self critical. Lot of the statics he cooks up when he takes a few puffers of Zaid Hamid brand of Hash.

Come on Uni!...............
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[MENTION=23843]alimohsan52[/MENTION]
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Guest, I find it highly amusing to listen to the ranting of indians like you who are quick to accuse others of "Anti-Indianism" when in reality all we are doing on this forum is discussing point of views :)..But i dont blame you for this either, as denial of self criticism is rooted very deeply in products such as you of the gaurav gatha education system of india.

The whole point of this thread is to discuss the inefficiencies within an education system in order to improve from that point. But since you are on a Pakistani forum and I have posted this article then we can very well see how well you respect other nationalities when i have posted an article discussing the truth from your own media.

Now getting back to the topic. you mentioned :

it just means that the education curriculum is not geared towards industry, i.e.



And who is supposed to gear the curriculum towards industry ?? ...Naturally it is a failure of the education boards in India who havent lived up to this job. This is the MAJOR point. Even in several advanced countries internships dont come easy BUT because of vocational inductions in curriculum the students coming from such colleges and universities fair far better than others. This means the EDUCATION BOARDS of those nations have built curriculums to suit the needs of the industry !...PLain and simple.

And this has simply not happened in India and quite frankly neither in any other south asian country.

as far as software/hardware/engineering is concerned, go to any top ivy league univeristy or the top 100 univs in US/UK etc etc, it is packed with indian students.

Secondly i have already stated that indians who are mostly successfull in foreign countries are those who have gone through LOCAL education in those countries and this is no different than any other nationality !!...Their are also a lot of chinese, malaysians, singaporeans, turkish, brazlian and even Pakistani students in IVY leagues !!...But yes the sheer numbers of INdia and China are always more because of the representative populations of those countries ..

Now does me not mentioning Chinese students make me anti-chinese for some reason ?(bigsmile) ...snap out of it !

Every country produces bright students and india is no exception to this but using character depictions of a particular race does not have anything to do with the education system of those countries !....That is usually a tool of foreign western policy to promote a particular culture until the long term policy for that nation changes and so do the role depictions!...Clearly, a nations education prowess cannot be judged by the characters its citizen portray in foreign media soaps !:lol:

SO what do you mean to say Indian are only good an number crunching or scientific work and not GOOD to be leaders that run a country ??...why pigeon-hole yourself when you can be that much more ...(bigsmile)



when it says large number are not employable, it doesnt mean they are not educated in their designated fields well. it just means that the education curriculum is not geared towards industry, i.e. they are not ready for joining industry and being productive first day on the job. the reason for this is in india, while people are getting degrees, there is not as much opportunity to get internships etc. you either do not read things carefully, or are too happy when you read news which you think is anti-india to bother beyond reading a few lines. anyways i dont expect you to behave any other way.

as far as software/hardware/engineering is concerned, go to any top ivy league univeristy or the top 100 univs in US/UK etc etc, it is packed with indian students. if you go to google, intel, IBM or any other big tech company and randomly shout an indian name (say raj to be cliched) there will be 5 people who turn their heads. i know you do not like that, and also it doesnt have anything to do with how well the education system in india works, but it is the honest truth.

this has become such a cliche that in soaps in american tv, (like Big Bang theory) or Asok in Dilbert comics are all indian characters who play the role of nerdy scientists or physicists etc.
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Well i think my statistics are great since your media outlets are accepting them left right and center. I think this Zaid Hamid Hash works better than your expired Ball Thackeray crap you take ...[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

Modern Fakir have his own statics he goes by them, whick includes articles that are published in Indian news papers that are self critical. Lot of the statics he cooks up when he takes a few puffers of Zaid Hamid brand of Hash.
 

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