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observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
What is Aqeedah?
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Told ya you're not ready. Go and learn Aqeedah first.

How do you know I'm not ready to accept Islam?
Remember we do dawah, we know when people are ready. Seriously!!

I thought you knew everything about Islam,
I don't think even a Shaikh ul Islam could claim that they know everything about Islam.

but you seem to fail in the initial test of providing the one-liner Shahada from the Quran.
Quran is google for you right, everything has to be in Quran. Get your aqeeda right, Quran is not google search.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Told ya you're not ready. Go and learn Aqeedah first.


Remember we do dawah, we know when people are ready. Seriously!!


I don't think even a Shaikh ul Islam could claim that they know everything about Islam.


Quran is google for you right, everything has to be in Quran. Get your aqeeda right, Quran is not google search.
Oh come on, if you can't provide a simple Shahada from the Quran, how can you provide the details of Namaz or Hajj from the Quran?
Why can't you set aside your flawed ego for a moment and admit that you have failed to answer my simple question?
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Why can't you set aside your flawed ego for a moment and admit that you have failed to answer my simple question?
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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I answered your simple question, you're not ready for Islam.

You believe Allah is not a living God who listens and answers our duas. Get your Aqeedah right about Allah first. All else will fall in place after that.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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I answered your simple question, you're not ready for Islam.

You believe Allah is not a living God who listens and answers our duas. Get your Aqeedah right about Allah first. All else will fall in place after that.
That is not your problem, whether I'm ready or not, all you have to do is provide me with the Shahada from the Quran.
Man up and don't act like a retarded rat.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
That is not your problem, whether I'm ready or not, all you have to do is provide me with the Shahada from the Quran.
Man up and don't act like a retarded rat.
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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That is indeed the problem, your concepts about Allah are problematic.

Do you believe Allah is a Living God الحى? You believe He listens السميع and answers us المجيب?
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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That is indeed the problem, your concepts about Allah are problematic.

Do you believe Allah is a Living God الحى? You believe He listens السميع and answers us المجيب?
Ignorant Mullah, it's my problem, not yours. I am answerable to God; your job is to provide me the Shahada from the Quran.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Ignorant Mullah, it's my problem, not yours. I am answerable to God; your job is to provide me the Shahada from the Quran.
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Its not my job to entertain your orders. We in dawah go on case to case basis just like a doctor does. We look for actual problem in beliefs and try to fix it first. Its not like anyone who's sick just give them a pain killer.

Your problem is that your concept of Allah is not right. Get those concepts right, you'll be fine for rest of the things about Islam.
 
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Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Its not my job to entertain your orders. We in dawah go on case to case basis just like a doctor does. We look for actual problem in beliefs and try to fix it first. Its not like anyone who's sick just give them a pain killer.

Your problem is that your concept of Allah is not right. Get those concepts right, you'll be fine for rest of the things about Islam.
It should be so simple to post the Shahada from the Quran, but you failed again and yet you talk about Dawah crap.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
It should be so simple to post the Shahada from the Quran, but you failed again and yet you talk about Dawah crap.
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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You're not ready for shahada.

Allah we muslims believe in, you don't believe in the same God. Allah has his attributes through which we know Him. You have no idea of the attributes of Allah.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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You're not ready for shahada.

Allah we muslims believe in, you don't believe in the same God. Allah has his attributes through which we know Him. You have no idea of the attributes of Allah.
Ignorant Mullah, it's my problem, not yours. I am answerable to God; your job is to provide me the Shahada from the Quran.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Ignorant Mullah, it's my problem, not yours. I am answerable to God; your job is to provide me the Shahada from the Quran.
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Its not my job to provide you anything, as for shahadah its a gift from Allah. Ask Allah for it he's The Bestower الوهاب
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Again, read the ayah of Quran where Allah orders us to follow them and also said you'll be successful if you do.

وَٱلسَّـٰبِقُونَ ٱلْأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ ٱلْمُهَـٰجِرِينَ وَٱلْأَنصَارِ وَٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّبَعُوهُم بِإِحْسَـٰنٍۢ رَّضِىَ ٱللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا۟ عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّـٰتٍۢ تَجْرِى تَحْتَهَا ٱلْأَنْهَـٰرُ خَـٰلِدِينَ فِيهَآ أَبَدًۭا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ
And the first forerunners [in the faith] among the Muhājireen and the Anṣār and those who followed them with good conduct - - Allāh is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. That is the great attainment. (Quran 9:100)
Again how does this even remotely even hint at following the sahaba. There were sooooooooo many sahabis that were not Muhajrun or Ansar what about them then eh?

Yaar qasam se what all nonsense you try to inject into the deen with your twisted interpretations of the Quran, you are worse than the shia who try to prove their imams from the Quran doing the same.

Thats why you need the crutches of manmade stories because you cannot change the words of Allah so you introduce your garbage books with their "interpretations" of the Quran to mean all this nonsense.

And if you want to follow the sahaba then don't pick and choose this is from Imam Maliks al muwatta whose own grandfather was a Tabi'in and Malik himself lived in the prophets city and got his information from the tabi'ins directly from them

“Yahya related to me from Malik from his paternal uncle Abu Suhayl ibn Malik that his uncle's father said, ‘I recognise nothing nowadays of what I saw the people (i.e. the companions of the Messenger ﷺ) doing except the call to prayer (adhān).’”

So this account shows that the people are not following Islam anything like the sahabis were? So whatever you are practicing is not from the sahabis even your own hadith is saying that.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Its not my job to entertain your orders. We in dawah go on case to case basis just like a doctor does. We look for actual problem in beliefs and try to fix it first. Its not like anyone who's sick just give them a pain killer.

Your problem is that your concept of Allah is not right. Get those concepts right, you'll be fine for rest of the things about Islam.
🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 Wadda tu aya doctor watson da puttar! What kind of F.UP delusion world you live in.

This just proves you don't even know your own hadith just know how to yap yap yap, Jahil if you are dawah bro gang regardless of what anyone says you have to provide and accept anyones shahada
Narrated by Usāmah ibn Zayd (رضي الله عنه):

The Prophet ﷺ sent us on an expedition. We fought and overcame the enemy. I chased one of the disbelievers and when I caught up with him, he said: “Lā ilāha illā Allāh”. But I killed him.
When we returned, the Prophet ﷺ was informed and said to me:
"Did you kill him after he said Lā ilāha illā Allāh?"
I said: “O Messenger of Allah, he only said it to save himself.”
The Prophet ﷺ responded:
“Did you split open his heart to know whether he was truthful or not?”
And he kept repeating, “What will you do on the Day of Judgment when Lā ilāha illā Allāh comes against you?” — until I wished I had never accepted Islam before that day.
and notice even in your hadith the shahada is Lā ilāha illā Allāh, there is no Muhammad is your messenger here
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Again how does this even remotely even hint at following the sahaba. There were sooooooooo many sahabis that were not Muhajrun or Ansar what about them then eh?
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Perfect, sooooooooooo many sahaba are like soooooooooo many stars, per this hadith, sooooooooooo many sahaba are all role models for success:

أصحابي كالنجوم بأيهم اقتديتم اهتديتم
My Companions are like the stars, whichever of them you follow you will be rightly guided

Yaar qasam se what all nonsense you try to inject into the deen with your twisted interpretations of the Quran, you are worse than the shia who try to prove their imams from the Quran doing the same.

Thats why you need the crutches of manmade stories because you cannot change the words of Allah so you introduce your garbage books with their "interpretations" of the Quran to mean all this nonsense.
bla bla bla bla....
And if you want to follow the sahaba then don't pick and choose this is from Imam Maliks al muwatta whose own grandfather was a Tabi'in and Malik himself lived in the prophets city and got his information from the tabi'ins directly from them

“Yahya related to me from Malik from his paternal uncle Abu Suhayl ibn Malik that his uncle's father said, ‘I recognise nothing nowadays of what I saw the people (i.e. the companions of the Messenger ﷺ) doing except the call to prayer (adhān).’”

So this account shows that the people are not following Islam anything like the sahabis were? So whatever you are practicing is not from the sahabis even your own hadith is saying that.
And what about hundreds of thousands of all other ahadith about sahaba? You love to cherry pick right.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 Wadda tu aya doctor watson da puttar! What kind of F.UP delusion world you live in.
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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I know it hurts. Keep burning rejectors.

This just proves you don't even know your own hadith just know how to yap yap yap, Jahil if you are dawah bro gang regardless of what anyone says you have to provide and accept anyones shahada
Narrated by Usāmah ibn Zayd (رضي الله عنه):

The Prophet ﷺ sent us on an expedition. We fought and overcame the enemy. I chased one of the disbelievers and when I caught up with him, he said: “Lā ilāha illā Allāh”. But I killed him.
When we returned, the Prophet ﷺ was informed and said to me:
"Did you kill him after he said Lā ilāha illā Allāh?"
I said: “O Messenger of Allah, he only said it to save himself.”
The Prophet ﷺ responded:
“Did you split open his heart to know whether he was truthful or not?”
And he kept repeating, “What will you do on the Day of Judgment when Lā ilāha illā Allāh comes against you?” — until I wished I had never accepted Islam before that day.
and notice even in your hadith the shahada is Lā ilāha illā Allāh, there is no Muhammad is your messenger here
May the love of quoting ahadith bring you back to deen of Allah.

Your other hackel and jackel did not say shahadah, I asked for it. But he refused. If he say it today I'll accept it.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Perfect, sooooooooooo many sahaba are like soooooooooo many stars, per this hadith, sooooooooooo many sahaba are all role models for success:

أصحابي كالنجوم بأيهم اقتديتم اهتديتم
My Companions are like the stars, whichever of them you follow you will be rightly guided


bla bla bla bla....

And what about hundreds of thousands of all other ahadith about sahaba? You love to cherry pick right.
1. So all the sahabis who were not ansar and muhajirs like Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, Ikrimah ibn Abi Jahl, 100s if not 1000sof people who came in delegations from places like Yemen, Oman, Bahrain and accepted Islam on behest of the prophet etc etc don't go to heaven and Allah is not pleased with them! How unfair!
2.Obviously has no refutation so this is all you can do is buk buk buk
3.Thats the point, Allah set the criterion and said if it was not from him there would be many contradictions in it. Your chappu storybooks are dripping with contradiction at every corner.
And this was also to illuminate how you people dismiss what could possibly be the only actual book of hadith because Malik relied more on the tradition of people of medina, lived closer to his time and dismissed singular anecdotal reports on which 99.9% of your religion is based on. Why is it not included in your sahih sitta, eh? If I was a hadith believer that would be the only book I would believe in.

As I always simple litmus test for hadith. The farther you go away from medina and the more time passes from the death of the prophet more the number of hadith increases as well as strictness on following them, the closer you get to the Prophets city and closet in time you get to his death. the lesser the number of hadith and almost no value given to hadith as part of deen.
No matter what argument you bring, you cannot prove and justify your hadith from the Quran.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
1. So all the sahabis who were not ansar and muhajirs like Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, Ikrimah ibn Abi Jahl, 100s if not 1000sof people who came in delegations from places like Yemen, Oman, Bahrain and accepted Islam on behest of the prophet etc etc don't go to heaven and Allah is not pleased with them! How unfair!
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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If you want to go mere logic here, then read the rest of ayah. It says whoever follows ansar and muhajirun. All the others who have followed them in any way would be successful.

2.Obviously has no refutation so this is all you can do is buk buk buk
Don't rush, you got the answer slapped to your face.

3.Thats the point,
What point? Just bragging with no meat, stupid.

If I was a hadith believer that would be the only book I would believe in.
You're just a rejector, you just reject, reject reject...
As I always simple litmus test for hadith. The farther you go away from medina and the more time passes from the death of the prophet more the number of hadith increases as well as strictness on following them, the closer you get to the Prophets city and closet in time you get to his death. the lesser the number of hadith and almost no value given to hadith as part of deen.

No matter what argument you bring, you cannot prove and justify your hadith from the Quran.
Your illogical/ ignorant argument has just been shut down.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Your illogical/ ignorant argument has just been shut down.
Source?
Trust me bro! 😂

Not a single argument or point has ever been shut down by you on this forum on any thread because you haven't been able provide a single refutation or counter argument to anything, all you have done is your nagin dance! 😂😂

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And there are 4 more pages of this nagin dance! 😂😂😂
Wadda aya shut down da mama!
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Source?
Trust me bro! 😂
رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِنْ لِسَانِي يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
My Lord, expand for me my chest [with assurance] and ease for me my task and untie the knot from my tongue that they may understand my speech.

اللهم ارنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا اتباعه وارنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
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Hahaha, who runs away when questions start raining at you??

You're only a bhagora. You leave all the discussions in the middle and run for your life when you realize you're trapped. You did this all the time.

Wadda aya shut down da mama!
You're not only slapped but punched !! That's when you resort to your stupid punjabi filth.
 

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