===> Castle Of Altaf Hussain <===

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hnuter555 said:
i must admit MQM is only proper organsied political party and only thing i hate about them is they talk about sindh this karchi that and mahjar this urdu speaking that punjabi this anp that if they ever leave that crap and instead talk about pakistan and come in to main domain of pakistan politics i have no doubt they can change the poltical landscape of pakistan. i like thier culture and modesty i dont agree with their poliltics of intemdiation and i dont like their lassaaniet line .
and they always side with goverment for some reason if they develop how to do opposition as well then they can rock pakistan
i have my doubts about altaf hussain he might be double agent but their party structure and lots of things r really good as a strong imran khan supporter i have to admit they r far better organized and managed then PTI and PML and PPP
i hope they talk and work for pakistan rather then karachi only
JAI lol altaf lol first time in my life i said that just a gesture of good will political differences are orite but no one have right to abuse each other

It all depends on opportunity dear.
The constituency which has been given opportunity to MQM.
MQM is working over there. As far as other parts of Pakistan concern,it is impossible unless you don't have mandate.
But, in catastrophic situation like earth quake. MQM has worked in other parts of Pakistan.
 
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abbasiali

Guest
Jury said:

Dear Jury,

In my opinion, you have best available encyclopedia for MQM. But it is baseless to reply, and definitely useless to loose your patience, You have your affiliation, and you are proud of it, so keep it up, and ignore retaliation and aggression.

Regards
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
abbasiali said:
Dear Jury,
In my opinion, you have best available encyclopedia for MQM. But it is baseless to reply, and definitely useless to loose your patience, You have your affiliation, and you are proud of it, so keep it up, and ignore retaliation and aggression.
Regards

May be you're feeling tied.
But, I hope you'll give me a hatred reply soon.
 
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abbasiali

Guest
Jury said:
abbasiali said:
May be you're feeling tied.
But, I hope you'll give me a hatred reply soon.
O Dear Jury,

Why you feel like this, I always appreciate your efforts, your loyalty, and this is the main strength you have,

The only issue I am trying to convey you,

Do not retaliate HATRED with Hatred.

Show best of your self and ignore if you have been provoked. Bring your community achievements as your own post, don't bring them in reply.

You are a sweet person, Allah bless you.

Regards
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
abbasiali said:
Why you feel like this, I always appreciate your efforts, your loyalty, and this is the main strength you have,
The only issue I am trying to convey you,
Do not retaliate HATRED with Hatred.
Show best of your self and ignore if you have been provoked. Bring your community achievements as your own post, don't bring them in reply.
You are a sweet person, Allah bless you.
Regards

I don't like it at all.
God Bless you too and you family, friends, neighbors.
God Bless Pakistan.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
abbasiali said:
Bring your community achievements as your own post, don't bring them in reply.

I don't like to post same reply again and again.
But, when can I do, if someone is posting same thing again and again.
Then, I've to reply the same stuff, again and again.
 

syed_nd

MPA (400+ posts)
but u hvnt prove mk world no 1 yet and y point out others english mistakes but u have done a lot in this same page english is not at least my language my father was not (gorra) i never feel ambarres or sorry but i dnt know about u who was anyway its still on u world no 1
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
syed_nd said:
(1) but u hvnt prove mk world no 1 yet (2) and y point out others english mistakes but u have done a lot in this same page (3) english is not at least my language my father was not (gorra) i never feel ambarres or sorry but i dnt know about u who was anyway its still on u world no 1

(1)


[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuC1viy9OQM[/video]

(2)

When did I point out English mistakes?


(3)


Was Muhammad Ali Jinnah father A Gora?
Was Imran Khan Father A Gora?
Is that the reason of one speaks English because his Father A Gora?

Readers of daily Dawn, The News, etc all are those, whose father is/was a Gora.
Don't be in inferiority complex, if you feel difficulty in expressing yourself in English.
We even don't speak URDU properly, but, we feel comfortable.
As it is said, Language rules, grammar doesn't.
 

syed_nd

MPA (400+ posts)
mk phir jhoot bol gatakehta hai ubhoo nay( likha these r the three best world mayors at the moment) jhoot jhoot safaid jhoot wahan aisa kuch nahi likha gaya )to world no 1 saabit karna aik baar phir tum par udhaar or doosri baat mk kehta hai wasail or masahil kay aitbaar say main no 1 to bhai is tarha to phir somalia or ethopia kay mayaro ka bheee to khayal karo doosri baat english ki ghalyee waali ab shayad tujhay yaad nahi khair yeh koi itni baree baat nahi or teesri baat munnay yeh hai kay gorra wali baat kehnay ka maqsad yeh nahi tha kay main tuj par choot karna chah raha tha balkay mainay apnay baray main likha tha kay agar main ghaltee karo to mujhay is kay liye koi sharmindgee nahi ho gee kion kay main kisi goray ki aulad nahisharmindgee to mujhay jab ho jab main urdu main ghalti karoo or yeh kay i can express all my feelings and emotions in english but being on pk pilitics where we discuss the pk politics i feel to express my view point in urdu i mean to say in roman urdu any way jury im looking for spatacus all ovver hes no where may allah be his hafeez
 

MHASHMI

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I think, you are so blind and are not able to see or visualize the truth or facts. that approch has given roots to the corrupt and privllaged clases to rule the country and all the ladership of MQM is the is playing the role as the agents to continue the existing system. MQM was created by the miliitary dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peopes of karachi who support MQM.


Do not live in the dreams and open your minds and eyes and play the due role for the safeguard of the poor peoples instead of following the MQM (agent of the privilliged clases).


In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organise a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centres particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centres and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. they financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organise to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centres. They worked on different peoples to creates that group and many seasonal and patriotic urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic urdu speaking party. The first training of these group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organisation. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in karachi and hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.

- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "BHatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collobration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.

- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.

- as far the murders of the peoples in the operation 1992 against MQM is concerned, it is noted that they never launched any FIR or conducted any enquiry for that while they were and are in the government all the times. It is enough to establish that the operation 1992 was carried out by the establishment and ALtaf together.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
syed_nd said:
mk phir jhoot bol gatakehta hai ubhoo nay( likha these r the three best world mayors at the moment) jhoot jhoot safaid jhoot wahan aisa kuch nahi likha gaya )to world no 1 saabit karna aik baar phir tum par udhaar or doosri baat mk kehta hai wasail or masahil kay aitbaar say main no 1 to bhai is tarha to phir somalia or ethopia kay mayaro ka bheee to khayal karo doosri baat english ki ghalyee waali ab shayad tujhay yaad nahi khair yeh koi itni baree baat nahi or teesri baat munnay yeh hai kay gorra wali baat kehnay ka maqsad yeh nahi tha kay main tuj par choot karna chah raha tha balkay mainay apnay baray main likha tha kay agar main ghaltee karo to mujhay is kay liye koi sharmindgee nahi ho gee kion kay main kisi goray ki aulad nahisharmindgee to mujhay jab ho jab main urdu main ghalti karoo or yeh kay i can express all my feelings and emotions in english but being on pk pilitics where we discuss the pk politics i feel to express my view point in urdu i mean to say in roman urdu any way jury im looking for spatacus all ovver hes no where may allah be his hafeez

1) Watch the video again. But before that, you should drink a chilled glass of water.

2) Regarding Somalia and Ethiopia mayor, ask this question to Foreign Policy Magazine. Here MK was comparing himself with the three mayor of the movement, which was selected by the Foreign Policy Magazine. . And certainly MK has less resources than them.

3) You should have pointed where I pointed out mistakes, only then, I take this accusation seriously.

4) To do mistake even in URDU, even I don't consider it embarrassment.

5) If you're missing SPARTICUS, you should watch the FILM Spartacus,
It is very nice and entertaining. End part of the film is awesome.
spartacus_the_film.jpg

 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
MHASHMI said:
In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:
- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organise a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centres particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).
- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centres and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.
- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. they financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.
- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organise to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centres. They worked on different peoples to creates that group and many seasonal and patriotic urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic urdu speaking party. The first training of these group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning pakistan flag.
- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organisation. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.
_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in karachi and hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.
- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "BHatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collobration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.
- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.
- as far the murders of the peoples in the operation 1992 against MQM is concerned, it is noted that they never launched any FIR or conducted any enquiry for that while they were and are in the government all the times. It is enough to establish that the operation 1992 was carried out by the establishment and ALtaf together to get
Hashmi


http://www.lib.virginia.edu/area-studie ... 0Ap95.html

ISLAMABAD, April 17: Supreme Court on Monday gave two more months to
Attorney General of Pakistan to file a reply in the petition of Mohajir
Qaumi Movement (MQM) against the Federation of Pakistan and Provincial
Government of Sindh.

The Court fixed June 6, 1995, as the next date of hearing, acceding to
the request of the Attorney General who had prayed for grant of at least
a period of two months for filing reply of the federation and the
government of Sindh.

He informed the court that two people had been working in Karachi and
two in Islamabad to draft the Government's response in the case. The
petition was filed by MQM on January 17, 1995.


Dr Farooq Hassan, who appeared before the court on behalf of the
petitioner, Senator Ishtiaq Azhar, said that the court in its order of
January 17, 1995, had observed that matter should be taken up for
hearing in a period of two months on mutually agreeable date.


Mr Hassan said that after expiry of two months period a letter was sent
to Attorney General reminding him of the order of the court. He said
there was no response from the Attorney General to the letter after
which another letter was written to the Registrar of the Supreme Court
describing the situation and requested for the fixation of the case even
if the Government did not file its response.


On an inquiry from the Chief Justice why there was urgency in this
matter,
the petitioner's counsel said that the MQM was an important
political party. He said respondents had restricted functioning of MQM,
which had resulted in violation of several fundamental rights of the
petitioner specially under Article 17 of the Constitution.

The MQM petition which was spread over hundred of pages had also
contained the details of atrocities and genocide committed by the
respondents making it liable before the law of the land and
international laws as well. The petition has evoked international
interest and Harvard Law School has included the petition as course
material in the human rights courses.

 

PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
@ Syed_nd:

Look at this link and shut your mouth. But, unfortunately I know what your filthy mind will say after that. I will reply once you comment on it.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms. ... 509&page=3

Karachi was ranked by the magazine as 57th in the world but Mustafa Kamal is among the world's top three mayors.

This is what Foreign Policy Magazine saying in the above link. Read the first paragraph (I have hilighted it as blue) with open eyes and mind:

The Mayors of the Moment

No city globalizes on its own. But with shrewd investments and smart urban planning, a mayor can help turn a regional player into a global powerhouse. Heres how three of the worlds top mayors are climbing the ladder:



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Klaus Wowereit Mayor of Berlin (#17)

The concept of the global city isnt lost on Klaus Wowereit. Since taking office in 2001, the popular, 55-year-old mayor of Berlin has tied his fate to rebranding the city as a glamorous, artistic model of urban renewal. And Berlins reputation has thrived as a vibrant, tolerant, creative metropolis under his watch. Wowereit cites the construction of a gigantic international airport, the successful 2006 World Cup, and a cultural festival called Asia-Pacific Weeks as landmark accomplishments. His critics claim that he focuses more on the citys image than its crumbling infrastructure or budget shortfalls. We are poor but sexy, admits Wowereit. A fun fantasy it may be, but Berliners will probably only be willing to play the starving artist for so long.


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Syed Mustafa Kamal Mayor of Karachi (#57)

The new mayor of Karachi is an unlikely poster child for innovative urban planning. The 36-year-old Syed Mustafa Kamal governs a city thats more often in the news for religious violence than cosmopolitan ways. But the hard-charging Kamal is looking to change all that. Hes courting foreign investment, encouraging international ties, and boosting the citys tourism. Kamal isnt shy about his goals: He has said he wants to turn Karachi into the next Dubai. His Green Karachi project aims to plant thousands of trees in the city. No stranger to Karachis bare-knuckled politics, Kamal isnt letting anything stand in the way of his grand plans: He has threatened to arrest anyone who tries to cut down the new saplings.


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Wang Hongju Mayor of Chongqing (#59)

Think Michael Bloomberg has his hands full? Wang Hongju is mayor of the fastest-growing city on the planet, one whose metropolitan area is already bursting at 32 millionmore than the population of Iraq. But Wang isnt letting Chinas urban revolution happen under his feet. He has been known to collect advice from citizens (for cash rewards), from mayors of sister cities such as Toronto, and even from the works of Thomas Friedman. Wang has sought heavy foreign investment, which his administration says has topped a whopping $3 billion in the past five years. In 2005, he claimed his antipoverty programs had helped 3 million Chongqing residents rise out of poverty in the previous eight years. Wang rarely shies from reporters questions, even about hot-button topics such as Tibet or SARS. His approach, a stark departure from Communist Chinese officials of old, has made the 63-year-old Wang the face of a new breed of Chinese mayors.


Thanks
 

love Pak

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
PakPatriot1 said:
love Pak said:
If [altaf] is born from one father, he should come back to Pakistan immediately. CAN he??

So that all the haters and NAJAIZ SONS BORNED WITH MANY FATHERS can kill him, right? Is that you want?
Keep dreaming to kill him. he is out of your reach.
But if you want to satisfy your lust to invade Karachi, Altaf Hussain has left 12 millions like him there, kill them and grab Karachi.

What do you mean he left 12 million "PHATOOS" like him in karachi.

[altaf] Phatoo
[altaf] Phatoo
[altaf] Phatoo
 

PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
love Pak said:
PakPatriot1 said:
[quote="love Pak":w2lezv59]If [altaf] is born from one father, he should come back to Pakistan immediately. CAN he??

So that all the haters and NAJAIZ SONS BORNED WITH MANY FATHERS can kill him, right? Is that you want?
Keep dreaming to kill him. he is out of your reach.
But if you want to satisfy your lust to invade Karachi, Altaf Hussain has left 12 millions like him there, kill them and grab Karachi.

What do you mean he left 12 million "PHATOOS" like him in karachi.

[/quote:w2lezv59]
You want to try them in Karachi? Come and catch them. It's a challenge to all of you haters.
 

MYCOUNTRY

Minister (2k+ posts)
In Pakistan he was living in 90 which is a small house but how and from where he built a house in London ????
while as mostly MQM say Altaf was riding on a Honda50 .............so from he get such a big amount to having a business and a house in UK ? The dresses he using is too expensive , all the expensis Bhatta from Karachi so called donation from his follower and also I think some from his Masters USA and UK.
Altaf must be happy now his ex boss Musharaf also bought a Castle in London ,,,,,,,,,,,,,so both should stay there and must live Pakistan and Pakistanis in peace...................
 

syed_nd

MPA (400+ posts)
bhaee logo not every body in khi is a mohajir and in even mohajirs like me there is too mich hatered in mohajirs about altaf so never say 12 millions altafs in khi secondly he can not come to pk becoz he have security issues yes off course( bakra jo maray ga bakri ko seengh to bakri bhee maray gee bakray ko seengh )and if he cnt come khi in even waseem akhtar interior ministry and ishrats governorship then they better get out of the goverment becoz if they r not able to provide security to their quaid then they have no right to stay in such important positions and how come they gonna provide security to a common person but who give a ff.................k
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
Actually Altaf is residing there to implement the agenda of foreign powers and privileged classes of Pakistan. Each and every MQM leader or even small unit office holder are now millionaires. Before holding present position in MQM, all of them were living in a normal middle class status. Can they explain from where they got these assets?

Naturally they got by their criminal activities and "BHATTA" from all the peoples in Karachi. The peoples live like slaves under MQM. Every drama they staged is the proof of using fascist tactics.

But now peoples have seen their real faces and surely they will defeat MQM / Altaf in near future and the peoples of Karachi will get freedom from these terrorists.
 

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