Captz Magnem: A Hardcore Zaid Hamid Finds The Reality About Yusuf Kazab (Alhamdolilla

ProudPakistani

Voter (50+ posts)
@ rajakhanmb,
Brother I totally agree with you and I also have read about the hadith you mentioned. We definitely don't know about one's heart if he is good or bad. But problem with Zaid Hamid is that he is not hiding his relationship with Yousaf Kazzab. He said in his video very clearly that Yousaf Ali (Kazzab) was a Sufi and Scholar which is against the unanimous agreement by all the Muslim Scholars from all sects. Problem is why he can't say clearly that Yousaf Ali was Kazzab and that he was misled by him in the past and close this issue once and for all.

Brother, if there was a Khilafat system, then declaring anyone as Kazzab was the sole responsibility of the Sate and Sharia Court. But as there is no Khilafat system in place in Pakistan yet, it is the responsibility of the Ulema to decide about such issues and to protect the Deen which they have been doing for so many years. Why we accept the Ulema's decision about Qadyanis and not their decision about Yousaf KAZZAB. And when all the prominent Ulema from all sects have mutually declared Yousaf Ali as KAZZAB, then we Muslims should accept their decision as we did in case of Qadyanis.

Zaid Hamid openly declares his believes about Khatme Nabuwat, but at the same time, he decides to go against all the Ulema (Scholars) about a matter that has been clearly and mutually decided by Ulema of all Muslim sects in Pakistan.

I admire Zaid Hamid ability to give enthusiastic speeches and I really hope that he stops fighting with the Ulemas and openly declares Yousaf Ali as Kazzab and condemns his past relationship with him.

This is a very clear matter and Zaid Hamid response should be very clear:

1- Openly declare Yousaf Ali as Kazzab
2- Condemns his past relationship with Yousaf Kazzab


Apologies if anything I said seems offensive.
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
@ rajakhanmb,
1- Openly declare Yousaf Ali as Kazzab
2- Condemns his past relationship with Yousaf Kazzab


Apologies if anything I said seems offensive.

Thank you for your nice reply. Nah, nothing offensive. Jazak-Allah khair.

One of the prominent scholars in our history was of the opinion that if someone claims to be a Prophet and just for the sake of argument you ask him to give the reason, logic etc for his prophethood, your Emaan becomes Mushkook. Therefore, there is no ambiguity in my mind on this issue.

I fully agree with what you wrote. Its a clear matter and if he still has not taken steps 1 and 2, he should do it at once.
 
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UKspec786

Councller (250+ posts)
Br Karachiwala

On defending Yousaf Ali.
ZH new Yousaf Ali before ZH moved to Rawalpindi. Until then Yousaf Ali had not ever claimed to be a prophet. Nor after ZH move to Rawalpindi did ZH hear a speach, see a video or read anything Yousaf Ali had wrote, that refered to Yousaf Ali claiming to be a prophet.
So just because a jounalist (most god fearing of our society) claimed Yousaf commited blasphomy, does it make him a blasphomer?

If i was to say Michael Jackson was a woman, would you believe me?? i doubt it some how. So why jump on the bandwagon calling Yousaf a kassab.. Use your own brain, if you have one..
no disrespect meant....
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Br Karachiwala

On defending Yousaf Ali.
ZH new Yousaf Ali before ZH moved to Rawalpindi. Until then Yousaf Ali had not ever claimed to be a prophet. Nor after ZH move to Rawalpindi did ZH hear a speach, see a video or read anything Yousaf Ali had wrote, that refered to Yousaf Ali claiming to be a prophet.
So just because a jounalist (most god fearing of our society) claimed Yousaf commited blasphomy, does it make him a blasphomer?

If i was to say Michael Jackson was a woman, would you believe me?? i doubt it some how. So why jump on the bandwagon calling Yousaf a kassab.. Use your own brain, if you have one..
no disrespect meant....

UKspec786 I see what you are saying but you must understand the youtube where ZH is being proclaimed a siddique was much after ZH had returned from Rawalpindi. Also ZH went to Rawalpindi on kazzab's command. Thirdly it is not just one journalist or two or three or even 3 dozen journalists who said this yousuf ali was kazzab it was an IJMAA of ulema of that time this included Deobandi, Barelvi (for all those who think this is a Deoband conspiracy should look at the fatawa of Barelvi Ulema as well), Ahle Hadith and even Shia Ulema. So either the whole Pakistan was made fool of by just just one journalist?? Please read the detailed response to ZH every questions raised by him answered by the person who brought the case against kazzab.

http://khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/Mojooda%...elease/P/1.htm

I am evry happy that we are discussing this in most civilized way. Jazakallah to all of you.
 

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