Brigadier detained for having links to banned organization - Infiltration of extremists in the Arm

crowbar

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

Army detains officer over links with banned outfit

Updated at: 1607 PST, Tuesday, June 21, 2011
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RAWALPINDI: A senior Pakistan Army official has been arrested due to his links with a banned outfit, DG ISPR confirmed to Geo News.

According DG ISPR, Major-General Athar Abbas, Brigadier Ali Khan who was on a routine GHQ posting is being probed and any further information would hamper the probe.

He added that the Army had a strict system of internal security and no one was allowed to violate Army discipline. No further details were provided about the Brigadier.

According to sources, the detained brigadier was in contact with the Hizb-ul-Tehrir.

Hizb-ul-Tehrir was banned during the tenure of President Musharraf in 2004. It is active in Britain and other western countries.


http://geo.tv/6-21-2011/82771.htm

The picture shown is an old file picture. now he was keeping beard .Brig.Ali Khan Malik ,known as MALIK SAHIB was a very talented and upright officer who passed out second best cadet of his course from PMA.Was about to retire in 2-3 months.
 

Mullah Omar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Infiltration of extremists in the Army...at the highest level.

THats the most sick thing we could ever hear. There should be no one to infiltrate our army no matter if they are religeous psycho or americans or indians.

The detained brigadier is a patriot who happens to be linked with an islamist political party. There is a difference between being infiltrated by an islamist party and infidels who are bent on destroying Pakistan. I think it's disgusting that ISLAMIST party is banned in MUSLIM dominated Pakistan.
 

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistan's army ridiculed after Bin Laden raid -BBC News

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Few people are surprised Bin Laden was found in a military cantonment
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Bin Laden killed

How raid happened
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What videos show
At al-Qaeda's helm?
A text message doing the rounds in Pakistan reads: "For Sale: Obsolete Pakistan army radar; can't detect US 'copters but can receive Star Plus; only 999 rupees."

Star Plus is a popular television channel from India.

Another message says: "What a country! Even Osama is not safe here."

These messages are a reflection of the growing frustration among Pakistanis over Monday's raid in which a team of US Navy Seals flew by helicopter from Afghanistan to a compound in the northern town of Abbottabad, killed Osama Bin Laden and then whisked away his body.

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This is what they are paid for, to defend the borders, not to run bakeries and banks and real estate empires

Nasir Khan
Swat resident
For the first time in decades, the powerful Pakistani military establishment has failed to find an excuse to pin the blame on the "bloody civilians" who now control political power.

The army is not only suspected of having sheltered Bin Laden, it is also under fire for having failed to detect the raid.

So while few people in Pakistan are really in love with the civilian government, everybody knows that this time an explanation must come from the military.

Media 'complicity'
The military took three days to issue a response, and the most prominent part of its statement from the Pakistani point of view is the admission that it did not know about the raid.

There are few takers for its contention that it also did not know about Bin Laden's presence in Abbottabad.

The raid, and the army's admission, have given rise to a flurry of questions.

"Why do we spend more than $6bn (3.65bn) annually on the army when it can't do its job," says Mohammad Ruum, a resident of Swat.


The army says it was informed about the raid after it took place
Mr Ruum's view reflects comments normally not heard on Pakistani television channels.

Pakistani media, though extremely critical of the civilian government, have traditionally steered clear of controversies surrounding the powerful security establishment.

Many even blame them of complicity with the military to destabilise the country's nascent democracy.

The military's role was first questioned in March in the aftermath of the release of Raymond Davis.

A CIA contractor, Mr Davis was acquitted by a Pakistani court after paying blood money to the relatives of two men he had killed in the city of Lahore.

While the civilian government made a few meek noises that Mr Davis enjoyed diplomatic immunity, the general impression was that his continued detention was due to the army's intervention.

To many, his release came as a shock, and as evidence that even the military had bowed to American wishes.

Bin Laden's death has put the icing on the cake.

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People used to say, where there is army, there would be Taliban

Abdur Rab
Swat resident
I spoke to a number of people to find out who they blamed for the security lapse on Monday, and why.

One ex-army officer in Islamabad said the fault lay with the civilian authorities.

"They are the ones who issue orders; the army only obeys. They are the ones who were caught sleeping," he said.

Military-militant link?
Others, while equally disillusioned with the civilian government, said detecting the raid and countering it was the military's job.

"This is what they are paid for, to defend the borders, not to run bakeries and banks and real-estate empires," says Nasir Khan, a resident of the north-western town of Nowshera.


Few people in Pakistan support Osama Bin Laden
Many people in Pakistan suspect a link between the military and the Islamist militant groups operating in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Those who live in areas overrun by Taliban militants over the last few years are sure there is such a link, though they may not have a tangible proof.

"In Swat, there was a time when we saw the army and the Taliban running their respective checkpoints literally yards away from each other," says Abdur Rab, a resident of Mingora. "People used to say, where there is army, there would be Taliban."

In the north-western tribal region, people have seen Taliban militants setting up bases close to military installations.

n 2005, when I was working for a local monthly magazine, Herald, we sent a reporter from Peshawar to cover a drone strike on a militant training camp in North Waziristan - a rare occurrence back then.

He came back with a picture that showed the destroyed camp at the foot of a small hill. At the top of the hill was an outpost of the paramilitary Frontier Corps.

Humiliation
Last year, local people in the Kurram tribal region led me to the remains of the Taliban's main command-and-control centre at a village called Bugzai, which tribesmen had overrun and destroyed.

For years prior to its destruction, Bugzai served as the permanent base of militant leader, Hakimullah Mehsud. It was from there that he ordered the continuing blockade of the main Kurram road.

Bugzai was barely 1km (0.62 miles) down the hill from the main Frontier Corps base, inside a British-era fort, which was responsible for security in the lower Kurram valley.

Few of these people are surprised that Bin Laden was found in a military cantonment, not far from Pakistan's top military academy, in Abbottabad.

These feelings are now gaining currency in other segments of the population, who are equally shocked that the Americans had found Bin Laden right under the nose of the military and defied Pakistan's seemingly impregnable defences to whisk him away.

There is no sense of loss or bereavement - few among the teeming Pakistani masses loved Bin Laden. The feeling is one of humiliation.

Most people dislike the US, and they feel their own army has let them down.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13311257
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Infiltration of extremists in the Army...at the highest level.

As long as our army is not infiltrated by Americans than all is good.

Brother, our army should be infiltrated by no one, except Pakistani patriots who are willing to give their lives to uphold our constitutuion.
 

Mullah Omar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Infiltration of extremists in the Army...at the highest level.

Brother, our army should be infiltrated by no one, except Pakistani patriots who are willing to give their lives to uphold our constitutuion.
"The officer is known to have a "brilliant" service record and comes from a family with three generations of military service."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13853942

This guy IS a Pakistani patriot. At least he wasn't sold out like that Major who was a CIA informant.
 

crowbar

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Infiltration of extremists in the Army...at the highest level.

Brother, our army should be infiltrated by no one, except Pakistani patriots who are willing to give their lives to uphold our constitutuion.

Brig.Ali khan Malik has strong faith on Allah and great follower of Pakistan army moto ,"IMAN TAQWA JIHAD FI SABILELLAH".His family been very loyal to this country ,much loyal then those selling own people to americans for couple of dollars.He is a very brilliant officer , could have make for higher ranks but on one occasion when he asked general Musharaf questions about the practice of selling pakistani nationals on a whole sale price to american , he was declared unfit for further promotions.Basically , he is from a poor family , his father was a junior commissioned officer(subedar) so he is taken to task.Had he been from elite class family ,he would have been a lieutenant general today and a fit case to be cheif of army staff in future.
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

i Agree with u
Glad to see koe tou apna Ahtisaab khud bhe ker raha hai... Saleem Shahzad pin pointed this matter and army is seriously addressing it and add to that making is public which is a healthy sign... May Saleem Shahzad soul rest in peace... ameen
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Infiltration of extremists in the Army...at the highest level.

Brig.Ali khan Malik has strong faith on Allah and great follower of Pakistan army moto ,"IMAN TAQWA JIHAD FI SABILELLAH".His family been very loyal to this country ,much loyal then those selling own people to americans for couple of dollars.He is a very brilliant officer , could have make for higher ranks but on one occasion when he asked general Musharaf questions about the practice of selling pakistani nationals on a whole sale price to american , he was declared unfit for further promotions.Basically , he is from a poor family , his father was a junior commissioned officer(subedar) so he is taken to task.Had he been from elite class family ,he would have been a lieutenant general today and a fit case to be cheif of army staff in future.

I am not questioning anybody's faith and loyalty. All I am saying is that the only agenda military personnel should have is to protect and uphold Pakistan's constitution.
 

noman3000

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

Pakistan Army, ISI infected with cancer: MQM

Islamabad, May 28 (IANS) The Pakistan Army and the countrys Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) spy agency were partially infected with cancer, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) has said.
MQM chief Altaf Hussain said in an address to party workers Friday that the government has not guided the nation correctly, Geo News reported.
MQM is considered the largest liberal and secular political party of Pakistan and holds immense mobilizing potential in Sindh province.
The Pakistani nation is being fooled that the nuclear assets are safeguarded. This national security agency (ISI) should answer the nation in this regard, Hussain said.
Speaking about the criticism being directed towards the army and ISI over the killing of Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden May 2, Hussain said it would be unjust to blame army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani or ISI head Lt. Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha for the failure, the Pakistan Observer reported.
It was the institution that had failed and not the individual. The institution did not discharge its responsibility with honesty, integrity and a sense of duty, Hussain said.
He said that despite everything, Pakistan continues to blame the US for every action.
We have to decide whether we want US aid or we are prepared to go without US aid? The time for the decision is now, Hussain was quoted as saying.
The army and the ISI as a whole were not bad as institutions, he said.
It was the top of the structure that was affected by gangrene. The gangrenous part should be surgically removed in order to save the entire institution, he said.

RAWALPINDI: A senior Pakistan Army official has been arrested due to his links with a banned outfit, DG ISPR confirmed to Geo News.

According DG ISPR, Major-General Athar Abbas, Brigadier Ali Khan who was on a routine GHQ posting is being probed and any further information would hamper the probe.

He added that the Army had a strict system of internal security and no one was allowed to violate Army discipline. No further details were provided about the Brigadier.

According to sources, the detained brigadier was in contact with the Hizb-ul-Tehrir.

Hizb-ul-Tehrir was banned during the tenure of President Musharraf in 2004. It is active in Britain and other western countries.


http://geo.tv/6-21-2011/82771.htm


Kya baat hai Altaf bhai ki (clap) His statement again got proved!
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

What a joke ... Hang all army mullahs and give freedom to corrupt and let them rule on you..these army mullahs are main hurdle in way of ahmadi staff...
hang all mullahs in pak-army. Make them worst example for the other traitors.
 

Ehraz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

What a joke ... Hang all army mullahs and give freedom to corrupt and let them rule on you..these army mullahs are main hurdle in way of ahmadi staff...
No one of them is any hurdle in the way of Allah. Don't fear Ahmadis, fear Allah.
 

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organization - Infiltration of extremists in the Army...at the highest le

Awan I find your headline above REPREHENSIBLE TO SAY THE LEAST.Your lack of intellectual depth in understanding the nature of American satanic empire is obvious.Saying NAMAZ AND STUDYING QURAN IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE PAK ARMY?By the Qadiani generals?

The american dalalls generals, (not the regular jawans) must be stopped for association with american terrorist nation of demons.Read the article I have posted above atleast ten times, clear your eyes of satanic deceptions.The tip was given to the brown slaves by the CIA, ****** on this
coward slaves of the jew led christian west.The americans have been deciding who becomes our pimp general for a long time, ask Gul.

Think before you write any thing..Ok..
 

Ehraz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

Your are presenting your RIDICULE VISION ... why to bracket Mullahs or anybody for that matter... All jihad is not bad nor all jihadies are carrying beards.
Another jehadist... If my version was ridiclue, then you should have provided better one. Like others nothing but hot air. " All jehad is not bad" :-) killing own people own brothers and sisters is your JEHADE AKBAR... foolish one
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

you need some correction in your comments.....

i didn't mentioned they are hurdle in way of Allah.
i mentioned that they are hurdle in way of Ahmadis staff.


by your comments you are saying ( Naouz Billah) they are Allah or way of Allah.


we as a Muslim ( not a Ahmadi) not fear from anyone. only fear from Allah.

No one of them is any hurdle in the way of Allah. Don't fear Ahmadis, fear Allah.
 

Ehraz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

Also hang all Ahmadies in paak army who are agents of Israel.
My gooodness ... Each Ahmadi is loyal to his nation - no matter where he lives. Please don't compare us with you. We played major role in making of Pakistan. Its not your fault. As usual you are misguided one. read unbiased history of making Pakistan, and you will understand the subject. Don't hate me for what I am, hate me for what I am not! And I don't like the company of liar and traitors. Stay away from me. ;-)
 

Ehraz

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

we as a Muslim ( not a Ahmadi) not fear from anyone. only fear from Allah.
You even don't fear Allah... In pakistan people who were on their back "NO FEAR" and eliminate the Kalima from the Mosque shows that they don't fear Allah. You are about to implode.
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

how dare you point me that i dont (:astagh: ) fear Allah . my Islamic teaching not allowing me to dig your lies.

i will say only these words to you.....


I will never ever forgive you for this mistake



You even don't fear Allah... In pakistan people who were on their back "NO FEAR" and eliminate the Kalima from the Mosque shows that they don't fear Allah. You are about to implode.
 

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Brigadier detained for having links to banned organisation: Report

Another jehadist... If my version was ridiclue, then you should have provided better one. Like others nothing but hot air. " All jehad is not bad" :-) killing own people own brothers and sisters is your JEHADE AKBAR... foolish one

Your are putting on the question and then you are only replying ...I proud to be a jehaist...next time mind your language before calling foolish or any low word...
Yeah what Americans are doing in Iraq in Somalia in Libya in Afghanistan that is all fine with you... what mush did in his 9 years is ok with you... you tell when you came to know about the first mujahid ??? only after russia attacked Afghanistan... so if an action has an equal and opposite reaction then who did the action and who forced whom ro react...???
but when i said all jehadies are not bad then I took jehad in the meaning of striving... and jihad is the essential part of any Muslims emaan. if few people are miss using the term of jihad dosen't allow you to call jihad a wrong thing,,, if few muslims are in terror activities then bracketing all the Muslims as terrorist is the mistake west is doing for last few decades now...
 
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