blasphemy in dawn newspaper and apathy of present day muslims majority

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


Dawn paper is one of the pakistans largest English newspaper. it is karachi based and it is owned by a party which is presently in government. its head was made pakistans uno ambassador by pak president asif zerdari

Dawn newspaper like other English papers is allergic to islam but other newspapers atleast try most of the times to hide to an extent this anti islam hatred .but dawn newspaper is becoming more and more daring in its secular anti islam views.

A dawn columnist named nadeem farooq paracha regularly writes in dawn.he has uttered his anti islam views on many occasions in past .i wrote against him two years back but no one supported me .i than tried to compaign against this paper but still no one listened.not even big bearded fellows who claim to be great muslims.but trouble with Present day muslims is that they always put their careers and worldly benefits before their religion .and they know that taking such stand for islam will endanger their moderate image in society.

Anyway no one listened to me.now a month back again nadeem paracha spewed out his mental filth in dawn.some parts of his writings are given below



1.
"Because the same survey finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78 per cent favour death for those who leave Islam; 80 per cent favour whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83 per cent favour stoning adulterers to death. Now, if such overwhelming numbers of Pakistanis have such brutal ideas about crime and punishment








Here nadeem paracha uses the word brutal for Islamic hudood punishments which are agreed upon by all sects of islam..so does he mean that allahs hadood in quran are brutal? Is it not blasphemy?


2 "...who are our best bet to implement the brutality based on ancient Bedouin tribal customs..."

Again nadeem paracha is saying that implementing Quranic Ayats and Hadiths means implementing brutality. also he here refers to Islamic laws as Bedouin tribal customs (astaghfirulah).all muslims know that these laws were revealed to our prophet (sallalah u alih e wasallum) via wuhi from allah.

which muslim does not believe this and still claims to be a muslim?


3 he happily quotes another one like him to put his point who says "They pray to a violent deity...... "---

does he want to say here that those muslims who follow quran and sunnah pray to a (nouzbillah) violent one.!


Now what can I write about above


And remember this is only one column.in past he has ridiculed and shown his disgust on those people who fast and pray and who do not drink wine.he regularly utters such a hatred against practicing muslims that rarely even you will see a jew writing with such passionate hatred.
and he is writing nonstop since years in dawn.

Now my question to muslims is

Is there no Muslim left in Pakistan that they are tolerating open blasphemy. When non-Muslims do blasphemy people do make ( though they are ineffective and mild) protests. People ask for the death of blasphemers but when a blasphemer is living among the people they do nothing at all to prosecute him.

For example is our esteemed jamaat dawa.which weekly protests against American blasphemers but fails to even weekly protest against those Pakistani liberals who do open blasphemy against islam
same jamaat dawa has Strange logic!that so called muslims can do any crime against islam and muslims but we cant even touch them





Now the one thing that he says and I agree with is "Either we are one of the most hypocritical nations or certainly the most confused."; why hypocritical because pakistanis want to kill cartoonists, etc. but when this blasphemer is living among them they do not even protest or get him punished by the Courts.

The above blasphemies of his are nothing, to get the full one should read his various vomits (articles).

P.S: The above was printed in Dawn paper

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/19-nadeem-f-paracha-the-punishing-verdict-760-hh-05


 
While I do not agree with the writings of this Paracha, his logic is twisted most of the times, you have to understand that he expresses HIS opinion and he is not forcing any one to adhere to his views.

Secondly the answer to your number 1 point raised, most people will call these punishments "Brutal" even if they are part of Islamic laws. It is not blasphamy to call them brutal. You have proff in the fact that no 1 supported you. Fact is fact. Chopping of the hand IS BRUTAL...CHOPPING off the head IS BRUTAL...I will repeat it 1000 times there is no second opinion about it.

Answer to number 2, there is a difference between rules and customs in Arab culture and Islamic laws, many laws in the so called sharia are in fact based on Arab culture and are not necessarily Islamic.
 

molvirpg

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I have been saying this for years.



Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears, and really no one cares. This paper and its entire staff and ownership do not belong to anything and everything that is central to Pakistanis and pakistaniat. I wonder why no one cares about it.


Dawn represents fringe of the fringe in the main stream ethos of Pakistan. It is almost a fifth column newspaper which caters to the people of deviant and alternate thinking and life style. It is a heaven for a mumbo jumbo of former lefties and despicable type kalay Angrez who blacken its pages with their polluted and corrupted thoughts. It now serves and protects the Anglo American Indo Israeli interests in Pakistan. Its editorial and reporting is in line with CIA and US State departments geo political agenda in the region.



This paper will be a perfect fit in todays Bombay in India.


If MA Jinnah came back today, first thing he will do is close down this paper, and send its entire staff and ownership lock stock and barrel to Bharat, where it truly and really belongs.
 

molvirpg

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
This very ugly looking guy is Salman Rushdi copycat living in Pakistan. Each and every article he writes is about mocking, insulting, denigrating, degrading and viciously humiliating beliefs and thoughts held by mainstream majority Muslims and their strong faith in Islam.


His lifelong goal and ambition seems to be to attack and destroy anything and everything Islamic.

I am certain that he pockets hefty amount of dollars and Euros for his filthy work on a weekly basis

Miserably, no one cares and pays any attention. I mean no one seems to be bothered about this snakes venom spewing against majoritys faith and whatever they hold so dearly.


Its just incredible. I feel ashamed, disgusted, frustrated and helpless.
Surprisingly, he enjoys a following always seconding his dirty thoughts. I have tried many times writing comments against his trashy articles, but Dawns admin instantly removes them. Try writing a comment against the garbage that this guys brain unloads, and find out for yourself the speed at which this paper's admin will strike it down.
 

younus

Senator (1k+ posts)
he spat in his very first sentence... see what he is trying to imply here:

"Hold your horses. Or shall I say camels"

and do i need to recall you guys what does he trying to imply by saying "shall i say camel"...

this is utter nonsense and hate... i condemn him and his filthy writings.
 

molson4u

Senator (1k+ posts)
I just read the article...You need to be pretty good in English to understand what he is saying. Mr.drkjke although i agree with his views but you are not doing justice when u taking sentences out of contest. Don't go close to namaaz... Allah said in Quran... but when you read it in full contest it states "don't go closed to namaaz when you are drunk".

Bible, Taura, Quran all say the same law of God. However, Muslim Christian, Jews and all other people believe, chopping of hand, head or stoning is bruital. In old time people live by the sword and died by the sword... their were no jails or prisons in each city but times have changed. Alternative punishments are avaliable for such crime. Like for example adultry 25 years in jail or life sentence.

In his opinion:

"Now, if such overwhelming numbers of Pakistanis have such brutal ideas about crime and punishment, one wonders exactly what is it about beasts like the Taliban and Al-Qaeda that Pakistanis don’t like. Why would a Pakistani support death (by stoning) of an adulterer and similar punishment for apostates, but dislike the Taliban?

After all, it is the Taliban (and their many hoarse apologists in the media and the religious parties) who are our best bet to implement the brutality based on ancient Bedouin tribal customs that were later added by jurists to Islamic law. Isn’t this what a whooping 70 to 80 per cent Pakistanis want? The truth is, Pakistanis don’t know what they want. Either we are one of the most hypocritical nations or certainly the most confused."


what he is saying here is that if most Pakaistani agree with idea of brutal crime and punishment than why 90% of the people don't like Taliban because this was exectly what Talibans were doing to provide justice or its just we Pakistani's are a confused as a nation.

Again he says:

After all, it is the Taliban (and their many hoarse apologists in the media and the religious parties) who are our best bet to implement the brutality based on ancient Bedouin tribal customs that were later added by jurists to Islamic law.

What he is saying is that if Pakistani as a nation according to sevey thinks...78 per cent favour death for those who leave Islam; 80 per cent favour whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83 per cent favour stoning adulterers to death than isn't it what Taliban are good at doing. People like those punishments but don't like Taliban who enforce them. why? Its also true many of these punishments came as part of culture not as a religion. There is not Ayat in Quran about stroning someone to death for Adultry. It was arabic custom coming for centuries adpoted in Islam.

Last he closes by saying someone elses opinion:

“They don’t pray to the compassionate, benevolent and merciful God of Islam,” Dr Makri replied. “They pray to a violent deity preached to them by the mullahs, generals and inflexible ulema.”

Its true that God has showed us 2 sides of himself, one the most merciful and compassionate and the other side to be just in punishing. He say that the sentence for muder is blood for blood but forgiveness is better by the way of Qasas(money). The write is merely saying why we just show the side that is talking about blood for blood, hand for hand and we hide the side of Allah that talks about love , compassion and forgiveness. Its all because mullah teach us about hell fire, blood for blood , killing of Kafir etc. but don't teach us about the Compassion of Allah and his forgiveness.

All he is saying is that we are a confused as a nation. We want Islamic punishments but when Taliban so the same very thing that we say we like... we don't like Taliban and also that we should not show God as a blood thirsty entity but the most loving and compassionate. If we want those punishments implemented... than we should support Taliban not hate them because they are the enforcers or we are too confused what we want.....

So brother I don't see any blasphemy but you lack of understanding because English is not your first Language. Maybe you need to improbe your English and get out of habit to take things out of contest. May Allah Bless you.
 
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rakeem

Senator (1k+ posts)
Nadeem Farooq Paracha is self-professed left wing radical, even his kind communist leftovers distrust him, people need to understand these writings can and will be used against muslims by our enemies and definitely this Munafiq is in line to be rewarded for his crap, a so-called music critic even musicians dismiss his writings as garbage, Dawn newspaper needs to be held responsible here especially in these trying times when a skinhead in Europe or Rightwinger in US can use this to justify his hate and physically abuse of muslims living there.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Here is a very interesting article about this stupid good for nothing .
















Friday, August 7, 2009

The US Ambassador in Pakisan has a discretionary fund of $5 million. Nadeem Farooq Paracha Conspiracy theorists receiving colossal funding from CIA


The US Ambassador in Pakisan has a discretionary fund of $5 million. Surely that fund is not dedThe US Ambassador in Pakisan has a discretionary fund of $5 million. Surely that fund is not dedicated to assisting the orphans of Edhi or the widows of Ansar Burny. That and other funding is funnelled to propagate the US point of view.
Unearthing the Fifth Column in Pakistan is not hard. Just turn on Dawn.com. Every creep that can spell his name will appear and sing the dance for a few Dollars. Nadeem Farooq Paracha of Dawn News barely finished college. It is amazing that a quasi illiterate man who used to be Anti-American is now more Catholic than the Pope, more loyal to the US, than most Americans.
How does Dawn.com get the funds to hire semi-literates whose English is almost unintelligible. Poor grammar, and an incoherent thought process make him one of the wannabee leaders of the Blame Pakistan First. Mr. Paracha has suddenly become rich. Obviously it is not through his intellect.
Who is Mr. Paracha. He was raised in Kabul and went to the Karachi Grammaer school, and graduated in Commerce. Obviously his grades did not allow him to get into Engineering or Medical school. So he did the next best thing, he went to India for months.
Anyone can make a Faustian deal with the right power and then change their entire philosophy of life. Mr. Paracha does not tell us how inspired him to change his ideas about life. He just calls everything that he has learned a lie. Talk about Conspiracy theories. This has to be the mother of all Conspiracy theories. I did my O Level and certainly the books were not a liejust biased.
He has always been known to be a Marxist and then an anarchist. However, in a recent interview he gave to a cultural website, WeCite.com, he said that he was always, and still is, nothing more than an old fashioned Socialist, even though in an earlier interview he did point out that he had been associated with various Marxist student groups and at least one anarchist concern, as a student in the eighties
Mr. Parach is a recovering drug addict who spent four years of his life in a drug rehab center. He had frequnet mental breakdowns. He had a mental illness and is on anti-depression medication even now.
The majority of the theories about Paracha however revolve around his association with drugs. Throughout the nineties he was accused by some well known but conservative pop stars and their fans for promoting drug use, especially cannabis, through his articles. Paracha was also said to be a heavy user of both hard drugs (heroin) and soft drugs (cannabis).
In one of the most hilarious comments he advised his readers to read Google to get the truth about the so called Conspiracy theorists.
NFP as he is known to his friends is busy spoiling the youth of Pakistan under the banner of the usual culpritsthe Daily Times, Friday Times and of course Dawn.com. All of these have always been accused of receiving colossal funding from the CIA. Dawn.tv was not allowed on the air for a decade because of opposition from various nationalist and intelligence groups. The Haroons finally wrote the Wall Street Journal and his application for a TV station was approved under American pressure.
Mr. Parach is shown up for being utterly ignorant and naive. Barely able to string sentences together and mumbling his words, he tries to offer a counter-analysis to Zaid Hamid while exposing the dangerously limited understanding he has of history and geo-politics. We would honestly advise NFP to stick to his music reviews which no-one reads anywayicated to assisting the orphans of Edhi or the widows of Ansar Burny. That and other funding is funnelled to propagate the US point of view.
Unearthing the Fifth Column in Pakistan is not hard. Just turn on Dawn.com. Every creep that can spell his name will appear and sing the dance for a few Dollars. Nadeem Farooq Paracha of Dawn News barely finished college. It is amazing that a quasi illiterate man who used to be Anti-American is now more Catholic than the Pope, more loyal to the US, than most Americans.
How does Dawn.com get the funds to hire semi-literates whose English is almost unintelligible. Poor grammar, and an incoherent thought process make him one of the wannabee leaders of the Blame Pakistan First. Mr. Paracha has suddenly become rich. Obviously it is not through his intellect.
Who is Mr. Paracha. He was raised in Kabul and went to the Karachi Grammaer school, and graduated in Commerce. Obviously his grades did not allow him to get into Engineering or Medical school. So he did the next best thing, he went to India for months.
Anyone can make a Faustian deal with the right power and then change their entire philosophy of life. Mr. Paracha does not tell us how inspired him to change his ideas about life. He just calls everything that he has learned a lie. Talk about Conspiracy theories. This has to be the mother of all Conspiracy theories. I did my O Level and certainly the books were not a liejust biased.
He has always been known to be a Marxist and then an anarchist. However, in a recent interview he gave to a cultural website, WeCite.com, he said that he was always, and still is, nothing more than an old fashioned Socialist, even though in an earlier interview he did point out that he had been associated with various Marxist student groups and at least one anarchist concern, as a student in the eighties
Mr. Parach is a recovering drug addict who spent four years of his life in a drug rehab center. He had frequnet mental breakdowns. He had a mental illness and is on anti-depression medication even now.
The majority of the theories about Paracha however revolve around his association with drugs. Throughout the nineties he was accused by some well known but conservative pop stars and their fans for promoting drug use, especially cannabis, through his articles. Paracha was also said to be a heavy user of both hard drugs (heroin) and soft drugs (cannabis).
In one of the most hilarious comments he advised his readers to read Google to get the truth about the so called Conspiracy theorists.
NFP as he is known to his friends is busy spoiling the youth of Pakistan under the banner of the usual culpritsthe Daily Times, Friday Times and of course Dawn.com. All of these have always been accused of receiving colossal funding from the CIA. Dawn.tv was not allowed on the air for a decade because of opposition from various nationalist and intelligence groups. The Haroons finally wrote the Wall Street Journal and his application for a TV station was approved under American pressure.
Mr. Parach is shown up for being utterly ignorant and naive. Barely able to string sentences together and mumbling his words, he tries to offer a counter-analysis to Zaid Hamid while exposing the dangerously limited understanding he has of history and geo-politics. We would honestly advise NFP to stick to his music reviews which no-one reads anyway
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
I totally agree with 'rakeem'.

I call Nadeem F Paracha - Nadeem effing parcha.

Our english speaking elite do read DAWN, and many of the young minds can get corrupted the BS this guy writes. MORE AWARENESS NEEDED. Highlight these issues where ever you can - Facebook, Twitter, Blogs. etc.
 

Humble Pakistani

Councller (250+ posts)
I have been saying this for years.



Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears, and really no one cares. This paper and its entire staff and ownership do not belong to anything and everything that is central to Pakistanis and pakistaniat. I wonder why no one cares about it.


Dawn represents fringe of the fringe in the main stream ethos of Pakistan. It is almost a fifth column newspaper which caters to the people of deviant and alternate thinking and life style. It is a heaven for a mumbo jumbo of former lefties and despicable type kalay Angrez who blacken its pages with their polluted and corrupted thoughts. It now serves and protects the Anglo American Indo Israeli interests in Pakistan. Its editorial and reporting is in line with CIA and US State department’s geo political agenda in the region.



This paper will be a perfect fit in today’s Bombay in India.


If MA Jinnah came back today, first thing he will do is close down this paper, and send its entire staff and ownership lock stock and barrel to Bharat, where it truly and really belongs.

What twisted mentality do we all possess. What is wrong with us people? Why are we obsessed with CIA and State Department? It is high time we leave this out! If the Quaid was alive he will also call some of the Quranic punishments brutal! But guess what... they are meant to be “BRUTAL” so people will think twice before the commit a crime against Allah and against humanity. We have ALL missed the point about Allah’s punishments. Allah SWT in his wisdom prescribed punishments for described ‘sins’ but have you noticed that he says if you repent you are forgiven. We all forget that. Do you know that adultery’s punishment is death! But do you also know it is almost impossible to prove the crime of adultery. Allah is trying to tell us that I have set boundaries for you so you do not transgress… And you remember what the punishment is for a crime (so you do not commit it) He is also saying you are not cable of being a JUDGE! So leave the judgment to me. I on the other hand see everyone passing judgment on everyone else. Brutal will be the day of Judgment… That will be the DAY only HE will judge so please brothers and sisters FEAR that day!
 

rakeem

Senator (1k+ posts)
What twisted mentality do we all possess. What is wrong with us people? Why are we obsessed with CIA and State Department? It is high time we leave this out! If the Quaid was alive he will also call some of the Quranic punishments brutal! But guess what... they are meant to be “BRUTAL” so people will think twice before the commit a crime against Allah and against humanity. We have ALL missed the point about Allah’s punishments. Allah SWT in his wisdom prescribed punishments for described ‘sins’ but have you noticed that he says if you repent you are forgiven. We all forget that. Do you know that adultery’s punishment is death! But do you also know it is almost impossible to prove the crime of adultery. Allah is trying to tell us that I have set boundaries for you so you do not transgress… And you remember what the punishment is for a crime (so you do not commit it) He is also saying you are not cable of being a JUDGE! So leave the judgment to me. I on the other hand see everyone passing judgment on everyone else. Brutal will be the day of Judgment… That will be the DAY only HE will judge so please brothers and sisters FEAR that day!

The issue here is will his writings be used for or against muslims living in western nations as propaganda against muslim practicing their faith . DHS [Dept. of homeland Security] own official report was reported by Lou Dobbs of CNN when he was accused of targeting LAtino population thru his program. Majority of hate crimes in US [according to DHS] are committed against muslim americans, and mistakenly who are perceived as muslim like Sikhs. Due to major factors some being media propaganda,xenophobia and Evangelical Churches and [pastors of other christian affialiation providing false info. about muslims and Quran majority of Americans think religion of Islam is responsible. Media focuses majorly to Islam related violence and constant negative media criticism has made most muslim followers to lie or conceal their identity when meeting another American for the first time, most muslims are targeted in around their way to mosques or having an attire. In southern states like Tenessee mosques are needed special permission as most around America have been subjected to vandalism and if local communities have no problem having mosque in their locality[which they do most of the time recent example New York mosque blocks away from Groundzero] a security plan is first drafted to provide them proper security cover.
Humble Pakistani a humble request to you, please understand under these circumstances where all muslim Americans have are just rights as they totally abhorred by the civil society their who just wants to go to a mosque and say his prayers, and a right wing American publishes this poll on his website or newspaper to establish that islam is a violent religion and we should ban mosques and convert them to christianity[as Ann Coulter said] or put them in internment camps.
Muslims have a rich history of discrimination either Russia when Stalin accused them of Nazi collaboration and relocating them to Siberia from Northern Caucasus region [extending to southern part of Ukraine, Europe]where they were in majority, or transferred to Turkey or recent history ethnic cleansing of Bosnians mass murdered more than a million muslims just because they were muslims and these killings are repeated all over the world. Publish the same report about yeshiva school of Judaism and then he'll realize, Jews have coined a phrase NEVER AGAIN after holocaust . Whereas muslims should coin a phrase AGAIN AND AGAIN because it has followers some who are Munafiq and for self-interest can go to any extent not knowing thru his actions that EVERYONE[including someone close to him] will be affected.
 
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rizkhan

Voter (50+ posts)
Salam to all,

I totally agree with the fact that Dawn News is not pro Pakistan or Islam. In several occassions they repeated the same western tone of hatred against Islam and Muslims as western media does. I was surprise to hear that Dawn news questioned Shirin Mazari for reporting an Black water new reportor working against Pakistan in northern areas of Pakistan.

News caster from Dawn news didn't let Shirin Mazari to talk and moreover Shirin was blamed for putting an American life in danger by reporting about his activities in Pakistan.

What a shame. We need to out number such traitors and hang them by the true course of Law and Constitution of Pakistan.

Pakistan Zindabad.
 

Humble Pakistani

Councller (250+ posts)
Salam to all,

I totally agree with the fact that Dawn News is not pro Pakistan or Islam. In several occassions they repeated the same western tone of hatred against Islam and Muslims as western media does. I was surprise to hear that Dawn news questioned Shirin Mazari for reporting an Black water new reportor working against Pakistan in northern areas of Pakistan.

News caster from Dawn news didn't let Shirin Mazari to talk and moreover Shirin was blamed for putting an American life in danger by reporting about his activities in Pakistan.

What a shame. We need to out number such traitors and hang them by the true course of Law and Constitution of Pakistan.

Pakistan Zindabad.

Kahn Saheb... People have their own openion. If you write something without an iota of truth (Ms. Mazari does that all the time - I love reading her writings, let me tell she is not all that kosher though) and you put a human life in danger by doing so - is that a good thing? No it is NOT! Calling Dawn News against Pakistan is a bit crappy. They have been around since Pakistan. It seem like a vey Talabani or Bushi mentality that it is either my way or highway! We all keep doing that and have No torrerance for anyone who is different! Just think about it!