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Unicorn

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I didn't understood your point of 7%. Can you explain it in detail??

You can look at many studies done on homosexuality. Statics show that among men nearly 7 percent are born with male body parts but mentaly they feel like a women the figures are the same among women.

One person in 2.1 million will be born as a "hermaphrodite", a person who has male and female body parts.

One in so many birth will be twins of the same sex and one out of so many will be be twins will be one male and one female.

One in so many millions of birth will result in " Siamese twins".

These are the statics readily available and that is the way the nature works.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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it is unnatural in teh context of normal relationships in animals ( including humans).. its an anomaly.... and im suprised even with google available u r asking me for facts abt gay animals... here is teh fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

where as i saw it in a natgeo program.. which was labelled as u thought humans were animals..( referring to pornography and gayism)...
you are contradicting your own statement. first you said its in found in animals and then you say unnatural. If you are saying i am wrong please provide some facts.
 

gorgias

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Aray baba one of my work-colleague told me. He is from Sawabi and yousufzai pathan.. He told me about an event which is used to happen in Afghanistan and some areas of kkp, where they have an auction of young boys...And if i remember, a famous businessman was arrested while tying to marry a young boy in Peshawar...

آپ کے دوست یوسف زئی پٹھان نے بالکل غلط کہا ہے ۔ (میں بھی یوسف زئی پختون ہوں) پختو خوا کے کسی بھی علاقے بشمول قبائلی علاقے میں ایسی کوئی روایت نہیں ہے ۔یہ صریح غلط ہے۔جس بزنس میں کی آپ بات کر رہے ہیں اس کے غالباً کسی خواجہ سرا سے تعلقات تھے۔ اس شخص کو پولیس نے گرفتار کیا تھا اور اس پر مقدمہ تھا۔ لیکن یہ اس کا انفرادی فعل تھا۔اس کو معاشرے کی روایت سے جوڑنا قابل مذمت ہے۔

 

UnitedStand

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
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I don't google for things which other claims, so if one claims something , then its better to provide the resources its a good practice.
it is unnatural in teh context of normal relationships in animals ( including humans).. its an anomaly.... and im suprised even with google available u r asking me for facts abt gay animals... here is teh fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

where as i saw it in a natgeo program.. which was labelled as u thought humans were animals..( referring to pornography and gayism)...
 

UnitedStand

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
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You can look at many studies done on homosexuality. Statics show that among men nearly 7 percent are born with male body parts but mentaly they feel like a women the figures are the same among women. .

Dude who perform this study??
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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khair.. to maan lo ab aur achi aadat hai kisee doosrey ke claim ko khud verify kerna.. ya phir khud kuch claim kerne se pehle thora research kerlyaa jaye....
I don't google for things which other claims, so if one claims something , then its better to provide the resources its a good practice.
 

PAINDO

Siasat.pk - Blogger
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Complete view of homosexuality in the three major religions


Judaism

The Torah is the primary source for Jewish views on homosexuality. It states that: "[A man] shall not lie with another man as [he would] with a woman, it is a to'eva" (Leviticus 18:22).

The term to'eva is usually translated as "abomination". However, because the word is used twice in regards to homosexuality, its second use has been understood by the Talmud to be a contraction of the words to'eh hu va, meaning "He is deviating from what is natural." (literally "He is wandering with it [from the natural way of the world]" since the Hebrew word to'e means "He is wandering", va "with it")

According to the rabbis, the prohibition is a part of the Noachide Laws, and thus applies to Gentiles as well as Jews. In both, very little is said about female homosexuality (known as mesoleloth). {1**

Homosexuality and Orthodox Judaism
Sexual intercourse between two men is forbidden by the Torah, as stated above, and is a capital offense. The Torah prohibition of Lo tikrevu legalot ervah ("You shall not come close to another person for the purpose of committing a sexual crime") forbids all other sexual acts which can lead to intercourse, and prescribes the punishment of lashes.

Homosexual acts between women (lesbianism) were forbidden by the rabbis on the basis of "Do not follow the ways of Egypt where you once lived, nor of Canaan, where I will be bringing you. Do not follow [any] of their customs." (Leviticus 18:3). The oral law (Sifra there, 8:8) explains that what is meant is sexual customs and that one of those was the marriage of women to each other, as well as a man to a woman and her daughter. The Talmud follows this view, forbidding lesbianism. Like all Rabbinical prohibitions, violation can incur lashes. Female homosexuality is regarded as less serious than male homosexuality.

Christanity

The Bible is the Christian sacred text, regarded as the ultimate authority by all denominations. It consists of the Old Testament (roughly equivalent to the Jewish Tanakh) and the New Testament. While the New Testament is the specifically Christian part of the Bible, both parts are regarded as equally authoritative. The following passages are those that are generally considered relavent to the Christian discussion of homosexuality, quoted from the NIV translation in the order they appear in the Bible.

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground. (Genesis 1:28)

The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning." ... Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodomboth young and oldsurrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." .... They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door. But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. ... The two men said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else heresons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." ... By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrahfrom the LORD out of the heavens. (Genesis 19)

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders. (1 Corinthians 6:9)

We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurersand for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine. (1 Timothy 1:9-10)

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 7)


Islam

"We also sent Lut: He said to his people: Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds. And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"" (Qur'an 7:80-82)

"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)! They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings:" "O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" So We delivered him and his family,- all Except an old woman who lingered behind. But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)! Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 26:165-175)

"Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! But his people gave no other answer but this: They said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" But We saved him and his family, except his wife; her We destined to be of those who lagged behind. And We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!" (Qur'an 27:55-58)

"And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway? - and practise wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth." (Qur'an 29:28-29)

"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 4:15-16)

While there is a consensus that same-sex intercourse is in violation of Islamic law, there are differences of opinion within Islamic scholarship about punishment, reformation, and what standards of proof are required before physical punishment becomes lawful.

In Sunni Islam there are eight madhhabs, or legal schools, of which only four still exist: Hanafi, Shafi'i, Hanbali, Maliki. The main Shia school is called Ja'fari, but there are Zaidi and Ismai'ili also. More recently, some groups have rejected this tradition in favor of greater ijtihad, or individual interpretation. Of these schools, according to Michael Mumisa of the Birmingham-based Al Mahdi institute:

The Hanafi school does not consider same-sex intercourse to constitute adultery, and therefore leaves punishment up to the judge's discretion. Most early scholars of this school specifically ruled out the death penalty, others allow it for a second offence.
Imam Shafi'i considers same-sex intercourse as analogous to other zina; thus, a married person found to have done so is punished as an adulterer (by stoning to death), and an unmarried one, as a fornicator, is left to be flogged.
The Maliki school says that anyone (married or unmarried) found to have committed same-sex intercourse should be punished as an adulterer.
Within the Ja'fari schools, Sayyid al-Khoi says that anyone (married or unmarried) found to have committed same-sex intercourse should be punished as an adulterer.
It should also be noted that the punishment for adultery requires four witnesses; by analogy, all schools, require four witnesses to the physical act of penetration for the punishment to be applied.But if otherwise any other proof is found through modern methods such as DNA testing or so the punishment can be implimented.

According to the modern Islamic scholar Yusuf al-Qaradawi's summary:

"The jurists of Islam have held different opinions concerning the punishment for this abominable practice. Should it be the same as the punishment for zina, or should both the active and passive participants be put to death? While such punishments may seem cruel, they have been suggested to maintain the purity of the Islamic society and to keep it clean of perverted elements." [2]

 

biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
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look at this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jun/16/neuroscience.psychology

This is not natural because this trait is not found in any of the animal (Birds/insects/bipedals ,, etc). Not found in human beings too. It is just a side affect of too much pornography. In Western countries this pornography affects are more deep and results not only in gay/lesbianism but also sniff.
 

Faiza

Moderator
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Where are Gay marriages common!! either you are high or influenced by western culture. Secondly this Gay/Lesbian is neither natural nor new. we had examples from Quran about qoumi NooH (AS). May Allah Forgive us..

Just a correction it was Qaum Lut A.S ( لوط)
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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بسم اللہ الرحمٰن الرحیم

ابی سعید خدری رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ بیان کرتے ہیں کہ اللہ کے رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نےارشاد فرمایا تھا

ھ(لَتَتَّبِعُنَّ سَنَنَ مَنْ قَبْلَكُمْ) تم آپنے پہلوں کے نقشے قدم پر چلو گے بلکل ان کے برابر ہوجاؤ گے اگر ان میں سے کوئی کسی سانڈے کے سوراخ میں گیا تو تم بھی ان کے پیچھے جاؤ گے

ھ(قَالُوا اليَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى؟)اللہ کے رسول سے کہا گیا اے اللہ کے نبی کیا آگلے لوگوں سے مراد آپ کی یہودی اور عیسائی ہیں

ھ(قَالَ:فَمَنْ)اللہ کر رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے ارشاد فرمایا کہ اور کون مراد ہو سکتے ہیں
صحیح بخاری و مسلم
 

Desi_Action

Banned
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Some Genius wrote here that, Gays and lesbians are not Natural. How a straight person can be authority on some other kind of sexes? Who will define, what is natural and what is not natural? If animal can be gay or lesbian, what is wrong with Human? Why a human cannot be gay or lesbian? Our society and religions have connotations and prefix of 'Gairat' or 'Tahzieb' furthering with 'Humara Culture' or may be more with 'Bai'izati'....Khandan ki izzat ka mas'sla hai, samjha kero.

According to scientific norms, anything animals or human did or do...is natural. Their behavior, their languages, their experience, and skills etc. If human learnt to make houses of concrete and steel or learnt to reach fossil fuel under earth....as this is done through his experience and knowledge...it is natural. So is human attitude toward sex....all kind of sex constitute to be natural.
 

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