Analysis on recent Talat Hussain show with Imran Khan (please read and comment)

[Nabeel Khan]

kiyani sab ap ne bohat acha anlysis kiya talat ki guftagu ka...main is main kuch add karna chahta hun agar ap agree karain tu reply kijiay ga.......main talat ko bht dair se observe kar rha hun.....jis tarha aap uski fair criticism ki or her aspect cover karnay ki bay inteha daad day rahay hain...wahan mujhay ap se thoda ikhtilaf hai.......talat ka sab se plus point yeh hai k wo normal anchors se zara hat k format rakhta hai or thoda facts k kareeb baat karta hai......dats it....ab jo mujhay mehsoos hua hai is ki sahafat main wo b dekhain......or yeh IK se us k ikhtilaf ki wajah se nahi keh rha.......aik tu iski body language se saaf lagta hai k he thinks himself something....specialy in case of PTI...yeh PTI or IK ko aisay treat karta hai jaisay kisi ordinary worker se baat kar rha ho.....taunting way main baat karta hai...jaisa k (choti moti tsunamiyan mil k change lain gi),u can observe him even in his previous interviews wid Ik,,,,,he tries to b dominent.....kal walay interview main tu bilkul koi solid arguments nahi thay talat k pas.....hypothetical interview or uski achi tashreeh ap ne kar di.....

talat ka aik problem hai.....is k sath ordinary banda baat karta rahay tu khush rehta hai....jab koi banda thodi logic lay aay argument main or logic b talat ki logic se achi ho ya usay chellage karay tu yeh race ho jata hai or us guest k sath personal ho jata hai.....i mean is k interviews qamar zaman qaira k sath dekh lain.....wo isay logic pe bolnay nahi deta.......trust me qaira mujhay PPP ki wajah se zehr lagta hai...but wo argumen aisi logic pe built karta hai k talat jaisa self centerd sahafi b usko kaboo nahi kar sakta....or wo bilkul sahi kar rha hota hai.....

isi tarha asad umer k interview main dekh lain....wo b logicaly bht strong speaker hai...us main b is ne aisay hi us k sath personal honay ki koshish ki.......us k sath b race hai...isi liay usko apnay show main nahi bulata....bulay na PTI ki fiscal policy pe asad umer ko....imran khan ki logics us e b ziada clear hain or righly clear hain....us k sath b iski lagti hai.......IK ko sirf speaking pe utni fluency nahi hai...warna IK jitni logics kisi politician ki clear nahi hain pakistani political issues per..........

talat k programs itnay confused hotay hain k end pe pata hi nahi chalta k yeh kehna kya chahta hai.......uski wajah yeh hai k yeh minor details main itna ziada chala jata hai k major problem ko ignore kar daita hai.....apnay aap ko samjhta hai k her problem ka solution is k pass hai....expert har kaam ka banta hai.....but agar koi is pe tanqeed kar day tu or ziada race ho jata hai....baki phir sahi.....do u agree wid me or not?

 

[k.a.kiani]

kiyani sab ap ne bohat acha anlysis kiya talat ki guftagu ka...main is main kuch add karna chahta hun agar ap agree karain tu reply kijiay ga.......main talat ko bht dair se observe kar rha hun.....jis tarha aap uski fair criticism ki or her aspect cover karnay ki bay inteha daad day rahay hain...wahan mujhay ap se thoda ikhtilaf hai.......talat ka sab se plus point yeh hai k wo normal anchors se zara hat k format rakhta hai or thoda facts k kareeb baat karta hai......dats it....ab jo mujhay mehsoos hua hai is ki sahafat main wo b dekhain......or yeh IK se us k ikhtilaf ki wajah se nahi keh rha.......aik tu iski body language se saaf lagta hai k he thinks himself something....specialy in case of PTI...yeh PTI or IK ko aisay treat karta hai jaisay kisi ordinary worker se baat kar rha ho.....taunting way main baat karta hai...jaisa k (choti moti tsunamiyan mil k change lain gi),u can observe him even in his previous interviews wid Ik,,,,,he tries to b dominent.....kal walay interview main tu bilkul koi solid arguments nahi thay talat k pas.....hypothetical interview or uski achi tashreeh ap ne kar di.....

talat ka aik problem hai.....is k sath ordinary banda baat karta rahay tu khush rehta hai....jab koi banda thodi logic lay aay argument main or logic b talat ki logic se achi ho ya usay chellage karay tu yeh race ho jata hai or us guest k sath personal ho jata hai.....i mean is k interviews qamar zaman qaira k sath dekh lain.....wo isay logic pe bolnay nahi deta.......trust me qaira mujhay PPP ki wajah se zehr lagta hai...but wo argumen aisi logic pe built karta hai k talat jaisa self centerd sahafi b usko kaboo nahi kar sakta....or wo bilkul sahi kar rha hota hai.....

isi tarha asad umer k interview main dekh lain....wo b logicaly bht strong speaker hai...us main b is ne aisay hi us k sath personal honay ki koshish ki.......us k sath b race hai...isi liay usko apnay show main nahi bulata....bulay na PTI ki fiscal policy pe asad umer ko....imran khan ki logics us e b ziada clear hain or righly clear hain....us k sath b iski lagti hai.......IK ko sirf speaking pe utni fluency nahi hai...warna IK jitni logics kisi politician ki clear nahi hain pakistani political issues per..........

talat k programs itnay confused hotay hain k end pe pata hi nahi chalta k yeh kehna kya chahta hai.......uski wajah yeh hai k yeh minor details main itna ziada chala jata hai k major problem ko ignore kar daita hai.....apnay aap ko samjhta hai k her problem ka solution is k pass hai....expert har kaam ka banta hai.....but agar koi is pe tanqeed kar day tu or ziada race ho jata hai....baki phir sahi.....do u agree wid me or not?

I agree with you up to some extent but one thing you should remember that nobody is perfect in this world neither Imran nor talat and nor you and me. In this program, Talat's arguments were very weak but this time I was bit disappointed with Imran as well. Imran should have kept him quite. I think either Imran's media team is not smart enough or Imran doesn't listen to them. You can't blame anchors or jounalist because this is their job but leader should be clear and firm on their stance and policy. Watch this program again and you will see, talat jumped on IK where he looked weak. You must have remembered that we criticized on Yousaf Raza gailani when a english or american said to him that "Mr Prime minister look into my eyes and answer " because we knew that it was gailani's fault because he should have said something so that she would have thought that she said something wrong. Same rule implies on IK, he will have to prove himself with his responses that he is leader and anchor should show him some respect rather than we expect from anchors.

at last I think if PTI media team use the same strategy as it is used in cricket to find the weak points good batsman and bowlers, they can find political and ideological tilt of all anchors by watching their programs, writing their most asked questions and know their opinion about PTI; Imran and all spokes men and women can handle them better. But I don't think this kind of work is being done.

 

[Nabeel Khan]

I agree with you up to some extent but one thing you should remember that nobody is perfect in this world neither Imran nor talat and nor you and me. In this program, Talat's arguments were very weak but this time I was bit disappointed with Imran as well. Imran should have kept him quite. I think either Imran's media team is not smart enough or Imran doesn't listen to them. You can't blame anchors or jounalist because this is their job but leader should be clear and firm on their stance and policy. Watch this program again and you will see, talat jumped on IK where he looked weak. You must have remembered that we criticized on Yousaf Raza gailani when a english or american said to him that "Mr Prime minister look into my eyes and answer " because we knew that it was gailani's fault because he should have said something so that she would have thought that she said something wrong. Same rule implies on IK, he will have to prove himself with his responses that he is leader and anchor should show him some respect rather than we expect from anchors.

at last I think if PTI media team use the same strategy as it is used in cricket to find the weak points good batsman and bowlers, they can find political and ideological tilt of all anchors by watching their programs, writing their most asked questions and know their opinion about PTI; Imran and all spokes men and women can handle them better. But I don't think this kind of work is being done.

bro here i slightly disagree wid u...as u told,IK shud have grip on his stance or something like dat......luk Nauzbillah,i dont worship IK......he is a normal humen being,,,,even more dan a normal person...but as far as his clarity n firm stand on his stance is concern,i think no political figure matches his this ablity....yes where IK n whole PTI lacks is thier media management/presentation......IK is always come up wid clarity on his stnce,but he is not a gud speaker,niether a gud presenter,which i 100% agreed wid u to b iimproved......but it doesnt mean dat he doesnt know any thing about his subject......this thread was not here to support or bash IK......actualy it was there o know about talat....as i told u earlier talat is not at all an exceptional anchor...but he is a gud presenter...dats it.....if u wanna c a gud journalistic piece of work....watch Fahad hussain.....luk at his approach to the program/subject/conclusion/content.....he does the programs in a very smoothy way....step by step...give more clarity..keepin in view the bigger scanario n understanding of aam awam...

where as talat always jumps to the conclusion....i m not just mentioning u his this last interview wid IK,but even in past.....he used to do an event based analysis,which is not gud/enough for a seasoned journalist like him......as i told u earlier,he kept his viewrs in niti grities(androoni details),while missing the bigger picture....which makes him a very short sighted journalist/intelectual.....unlike haroon rasheed.......

i can give u examples.....talat was of view dat chief justice is doing it very right n he was fighting wid sethi on dis for a quite while....but he didint c da second aspect of da picture,where chief justice was realy controversial....whch is a fact,,,either it is da matter of arslan iftikhar or in da case of asghar khan case or in da case of PPP.....i mean abidi is raising very valid points about chief justice...although he is doing it on somebudy else's behalf,but points r valid....so where goes talat's far sightedness.....simlarly,he treated IK as an ordinary person,before his peak,where as haroon rasheed perdicted dat IK is gonna b the top leader of pakistan,which time proved.....so where is talat's far sightedness.....he is just an event based analysier...n even in tjoese analysis,he kept himself very limited....this is his manufacturing fault......n i m mentioning IK's scanario again n again,because he has some personal grudges wid him.....

rahi baat IK n PTI ki media handeling....tu wo wakai itni patahtic hai k koi hisab nahi.....hum log geniune stance pe b aisay defensive pe hotay hain jaisay anchor n other party spoke man is on right.......dis is just lack of preparation/lack of exp in hadeling da media//lack of homework////....very pooor media handeling...i m 101% wid u....agar nooon league yeh IRI surve hum se lay gai hai tu hamari poor media managment ki wajha se......they r masters in handeling da media...PTI n IK ab tak media ki ahmiat ko nhi smjh sakay or pmln or anchors ko in logo ne khud moka diya hai in per chadhai karnay ka.....

 

[k.a.kiani]

bro here i slightly disagree wid u...as u told,IK shud have grip on his stance or something like dat......luk Nauzbillah,i dont worship IK......he is a normal humen being,,,,even more dan a normal person...but as far as his clarity n firm stand on his stance is concern,i think no political figure matches his this ablity....yes where IK n whole PTI lacks is thier media management/presentation......IK is always come up wid clarity on his stnce,but he is not a gud speaker,niether a gud presenter,which i 100% agreed wid u to b iimproved......but it doesnt mean dat he doesnt know any thing about his subject......this thread was not here to support or bash IK......actualy it was there o know about talat....as i told u earlier talat is not at all an exceptional anchor...but he is a gud presenter...dats it.....if u wanna c a gud journalistic piece of work....watch Fahad hussain.....luk at his approach to the program/subject/conclusion/content.....he does the programs in a very smoothy way....step by step...give more clarity..keepin in view the bigger scanario n understanding of aam awam...

where as talat always jumps to the conclusion....i m not just mentioning u his this last interview wid IK,but even in past.....he used to do an event based analysis,which is not gud/enough for a seasoned journalist like him......as i told u earlier,he kept his viewrs in niti grities(androoni details),while missing the bigger picture....which makes him a very short sighted journalist/intelectual.....unlike haroon rasheed.......

i can give u examples.....talat was of view dat chief justice is doing it very right n he was fighting wid sethi on dis for a quite while....but he didint c da second aspect of da picture,where chief justice was realy controversial....whch is a fact,,,either it is da matter of arslan iftikhar or in da case of asghar khan case or in da case of PPP.....i mean abidi is raising very valid points about chief justice...although he is doing it on somebudy else's behalf,but points r valid....so where goes talat's far sightedness.....simlarly,he treated IK as an ordinary person,before his peak,where as haroon rasheed perdicted dat IK is gonna b the top leader of pakistan,which time proved.....so where is talat's far sightedness.....he is just an event based analysier...n even in tjoese analysis,he kept himself very limited....this is his manufacturing fault......n i m mentioning IK's scanario again n again,because he has some personal grudges wid him.....

rahi baat IK n PTI ki media handeling....tu wo wakai itni patahtic hai k koi hisab nahi.....hum log geniune stance pe b aisay defensive pe hotay hain jaisay anchor n other party spoke man is on right.......dis is just lack of preparation/lack of exp in hadeling da media//lack of homework////....very pooor media handeling...i m 101% wid u....agar nooon league yeh IRI surve hum se lay gai hai tu hamari poor media managment ki wajha se......they r masters in handeling da media...PTI n IK ab tak media ki ahmiat ko nhi smjh sakay or pmln or anchors ko in logo ne khud moka diya hai in per chadhai karnay ka.....

First of all, thanks brother to respond my post and sharing your good thoughts with me. I always like brothers who speak with little logic instead of "jumping up to the conclusion :-)" by saying that you are wrong.

secondly, I would like you to pay attention on starter of this thread. It was me who started this thread. I started this because I really felt this time that Talat is going little above from his status. He should not take advantage of Imran's humbleness. He should know that Imran is the only daring leader, who doesn't get shy to come in live interview and give them chance to ask any question. Imran doesn't bring tout like ahsan Iqbal to tell him that what question is fair to ask from Noora and what is not (if you don't know what I am referring to then watch video below, you will know). So Talat should admire his this action.

thirdly, whatever you said against Talat, it might be right in your opinion but I really appreciate and fan of Talat's journalistic abilities. I said that nobody is perfect so Talat might also have deficiencies but he always struggle to give good analysis on different events. since he does critical analysis so you can't expect him to tell you all good things so we might feel sometimes that he is trying to bash IK or PTI. I don't agree with you comaring Talat with Fahad. Fahad is good anchor but he doesn't even come in tier where Talat exist. I can give you lot of reasons why I said so but it is not the time to talk about it. So spare it for some other time.

Fourthly, I completely disagree with you that IK is not good speaker. I can give you the links of hundreds of his programs with anchors of national and international TV, in which he outclass the anchor or moderator. He reached at this position after defeating best bad or good spokes men of other parties. I think he might be the one and only one leader in the world who did so many live shows and competed with all spokes men of all parties.

Finally, I don't agree with you about your opinion on Chief Justice. Faisal Raza abdi shouldn't have raised these points in front of media but he should have passed the reference against cheif justice. Since it was part of conspiracy to let cheif justice down so he didn't. It was political trick to bash Cheif Justice through one of the dirty dog of PPP. At first he was asked to resign and then gave him free hand. Once they knew that they will have to write a letter so he stopped coming on TV. You think that Talat kind of anchor should always have become part of this comapaign. I don't think so. It was very good of Talat that when our 75 % media was speaking against cheif justic in one way or other he took side of CJ. You should remember when arsalan Iftikhar case was launched and rise of Malik. It was really nasty but Talat and his kind of media persons really balanced things up.

finally, thanks again to give me opportunity to clear me thoughts. I hope this clear yours. God bless

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[Nabeel Khan]

First of all, thanks brother to respond my post and sharing your good thoughts with me. I always like brothers who speak with little logic instead of "jumping up to the conclusion :-)" by saying that you are wrong.

secondly, I would like you to pay attention on starter of this thread. It was me who started this thread. I started this because I really felt this time that Talat is going little above from his status. He should not take advantage of Imran's humbleness. He should know that Imran is the only daring leader, who doesn't get shy to come in live interview and give them chance to ask any question. Imran doesn't bring tout like ahsan Iqbal to tell him that what question is fair to ask from Noora and what is not (if you don't know what I am referring to then watch video below, you will know). So Talat should admire his this action.

thirdly, whatever you said against Talat, it might be right in your opinion but I really appreciate and fan of Talat's journalistic abilities. I said that nobody is perfect so Talat might also have deficiencies but he always struggle to give good analysis on different events. since he does critical analysis so you can't expect him to tell you all good things so we might feel sometimes that he is trying to bash IK or PTI. I don't agree with you comaring Talat with Fahad. Fahad is good anchor but he doesn't even come in tier where Talat exist. I can give you lot of reasons why I said so but it is not the time to talk about it. So spare it for some other time.

Fourthly, I completely disagree with you that IK is not good speaker. I can give you the links of hundreds of his programs with anchors of national and international TV, in which he outclass the anchor or moderator. He reached at this position after defeating best bad or good spokes men of other parties. I think he might be the one and only one leader in the world who did so many live shows and competed with all spokes men of all parties.

Finally, I don't agree with you about your opinion on Chief Justice. Faisal Raza abdi shouldn't have raised these points in front of media but he should have passed the reference against cheif justice. Since it was part of conspiracy to let cheif justice down so he didn't. It was political trick to bash Cheif Justice through one of the dirty dog of PPP. At first he was asked to resign and then gave him free hand. Once they knew that they will have to write a letter so he stopped coming on TV. You think that Talat kind of anchor should always have become part of this comapaign. I don't think so. It was very good of Talat that when our 75 % media was speaking against cheif justic in one way or other he took side of CJ. You should remember when arsalan Iftikhar case was launched and rise of Malik. It was really nasty but Talat and his kind of media persons really balanced things up.

finally, thanks again to give me opportunity to clear me thoughts. I hope this clear yours. God bless

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i typed a very detailed reply,but as i pressed da post quickly button,my system got restarted.......i cant type dat long answer again....so i simply quit...may b some other time...but it was a healthy talking to u....although i have a diff view on talat....strongly opposite to u...n i hav reffernces for dat....but again it will take too much time me to collect all in my head n put it on dis forum...so...u win so far...haha

 

[k.a.kiani]

i typed a very detailed reply,but as i pressed da post quickly button,my system got restarted.......i cant type dat long answer again....so i simply quit...may b some other time...but it was a healthy talking to u....although i have a diff view on talat....strongly opposite to u...n i hav reffernces for dat....but again it will take too much time me to collect all in my head n put it on dis forum...so...u win so far...haha

we are not here to win or loose brother. at least not me. I am here to learn things. I have to confess that I have learnt a lot from other brothers and when I feel that I am in wrong something I admit. I just want to talk with people who go with logic but not with those who come up with rhetoric again and again. So if you will have some solid evidences and references against Talat then please do tell me. I don't know everything about everybody so I might be wrong about Talat. But so far I really like him.

 

[Nabeel Khan]

we are not here to win or loose brother. at least not me. I am here to learn things. I have to confess that I have learnt a lot from other brothers and when I feel that I am in wrong something I admit. I just want to talk with people who go with logic but not with those who come up with rhetoric again and again. So if you will have some solid evidences and references against Talat then please do tell me. I don't know everything about everybody so I might be wrong about Talat. But so far I really like him.

dis is not at all a matter of win or loose....if sum1 is weak in logics and other's argument have worth understanding,den dere is no harm to accept his point of view...criticism for da sake of criticism or argument for da sake of argument is da best time pas for those who just wanna fight....dont wory abt me,i m of ur view in dis scanario......bro talat ko lay k behs karnay ka maqsad usko ya apko neechay dikhana nahi hai....i m just concerned,wid da journalism he is doing....he claims and admirer like u take him as a different sort of journalist........let me built my argument in dis way.........wat does journalism means?.....it means impartialy bring the facts in front of da viewrs/listners/readers..?do u agree wid me?......and if we further go in talk shows,where an anchor has to conduct a program and leave the nation wid an idea about that topic/party/issue......do u agree?...bro impartialism is one part of the journalism......u can say,there was a fight on the road,between two guys n i just saw,but wuold not help the poor guy,as i m impartial.........no way...dis is not da way......agar ap ne sirf impartial rehna hai or us k badlay main sach ko discuss nahi karna ya avoid karna hai tu yeh b ziadti hai journalism k sath or awam ko mis lead karnay ka aik moasaar zariya hai....for example....aaj kal tv pe n social media pe CM punjab ki beti ki video bohat aam hai....talat k anylytical skills kahan chalay jatay hain jab koi b aisa wakiya hota hai punjab govt k hawalay se.......is k analytical skills sirf PPP ya PTI k liay hi kyun jaag jatay hain...

abhi jab is issue k baray main programs honay chahiay...yeh sahab sindh ki taqseem lay k betay huay hain ya aisa hi koi ghair zaroori topic...jis se awam main bilkul b awareness nahi aani.....bhai aap awam ko aware karnay k liay bethay ho....apna keemti air time aisay topics pe mat zaya karain jin se awam ko yeh nahi pata chalna k ainda election main unhan kisay choose karna hai....agar aik admi padha likha hai or usay siasi talk shows kartay huay aik arsa guzar chuka hai tu awam ko kyun nahi bata rha khul k bhai mulk ko is haal tak pohnchanay main opposition ka ziada bada hath hai........konsi aisi maslihat hai bhai jo ap ko punjab hakoomat ki short sightedness tu nazar nahi aa rahi(sasti roti/aashiyana/taxi/laptops/etc) but PTI jo abhi kisi tarha b power ka hisa nahi bani,usay itni kadi tanqeed ka nishana kyun bana rahay ho bhai?.....

bhai aaj kal talk shows ya politics bohat wazeh issues pe ho rahi hai or honi b chahiay,becoz it all stuck to country's political/financial/geoghraphical situation.....agar sara muddah yehi hai or ap is se itefaq kartay hain,tu hamain awam ko clearly message nahi dena chahiay k bhai ye options is time use main hain.....yeh aik option abhi use nhi hui,or jab k us option ne ,itnay baday/bold or honest/commited steps liay hain...jo abhi govt main nahi hai but saray issues pe wazeh moakaf rakhti hai unlike pmln jo hakoomat main ho k b kisi issue pe wazeh stance nahi rakhti.....or talat janta b hai unki past perfpormances ko.....current limitations ko b.....but kyun awam ko confuse kiya hua hai is shaks ne?

bhai jab ap k telant ki zaroorat ho or ap usay kisi or kaam k liay bacha k rakhain tu ap ki intentions pe b shak hota hai....talat has never bashed pmln for any political stance even in opposition or in punjab govt........so his intentions r clear.....i m sory main yeh batain na hi IK k pyar main na hi PTI k bukhaar main keh rha hun......main tu keh rha hun bhai sach sirf aik side ka tu mat bolo na.....iska sach sirf PPP ya PTI pe tanqeed k liay hi niklta hai?....y?...very big question mark?.....i m sory bro....dis is not argument for da sake of argument

 

[k.a.kiani]

dis is not at all a matter of win or loose....if sum1 is weak in logics and other's argument have worth understanding,den dere is no harm to accept his point of view...criticism for da sake of criticism or argument for da sake of argument is da best time pas for those who just wanna fight....dont wory abt me,i m of ur view in dis scanario......bro talat ko lay k behs karnay ka maqsad usko ya apko neechay dikhana nahi hai....i m just concerned,wid da journalism he is doing....he claims and admirer like u take him as a different sort of journalist........let me built my argument in dis way.........wat does journalism means?.....it means impartialy bring the facts in front of da viewrs/listners/readers..?do u agree wid me?......and if we further go in talk shows,where an anchor has to conduct a program and leave the nation wid an idea about that topic/party/issue......do u agree?...bro impartialism is one part of the journalism......u can say,there was a fight on the road,between two guys n i just saw,but wuold not help the poor guy,as i m impartial.........no way...dis is not da way......agar ap ne sirf impartial rehna hai or us k badlay main sach ko discuss nahi karna ya avoid karna hai tu yeh b ziadti hai journalism k sath or awam ko mis lead karnay ka aik moasaar zariya hai....for example....aaj kal tv pe n social media pe CM punjab ki beti ki video bohat aam hai....talat k anylytical skills kahan chalay jatay hain jab koi b aisa wakiya hota hai punjab govt k hawalay se.......is k analytical skills sirf PPP ya PTI k liay hi kyun jaag jatay hain...

abhi jab is issue k baray main programs honay chahiay...yeh sahab sindh ki taqseem lay k betay huay hain ya aisa hi koi ghair zaroori topic...jis se awam main bilkul b awareness nahi aani.....bhai aap awam ko aware karnay k liay bethay ho....apna keemti air time aisay topics pe mat zaya karain jin se awam ko yeh nahi pata chalna k ainda election main unhan kisay choose karna hai....agar aik admi padha likha hai or usay siasi talk shows kartay huay aik arsa guzar chuka hai tu awam ko kyun nahi bata rha khul k bhai mulk ko is haal tak pohnchanay main opposition ka ziada bada hath hai........konsi aisi maslihat hai bhai jo ap ko punjab hakoomat ki short sightedness tu nazar nahi aa rahi(sasti roti/aashiyana/taxi/laptops/etc) but PTI jo abhi kisi tarha b power ka hisa nahi bani,usay itni kadi tanqeed ka nishana kyun bana rahay ho bhai?.....

bhai aaj kal talk shows ya politics bohat wazeh issues pe ho rahi hai or honi b chahiay,becoz it all stuck to country's political/financial/geoghraphical situation.....agar sara muddah yehi hai or ap is se itefaq kartay hain,tu hamain awam ko clearly message nahi dena chahiay k bhai ye options is time use main hain.....yeh aik option abhi use nhi hui,or jab k us option ne ,itnay baday/bold or honest/commited steps liay hain...jo abhi govt main nahi hai but saray issues pe wazeh moakaf rakhti hai unlike pmln jo hakoomat main ho k b kisi issue pe wazeh stance nahi rakhti.....or talat janta b hai unki past perfpormances ko.....current limitations ko b.....but kyun awam ko confuse kiya hua hai is shaks ne?

bhai jab ap k telant ki zaroorat ho or ap usay kisi or kaam k liay bacha k rakhain tu ap ki intentions pe b shak hota hai....talat has never bashed pmln for any political stance even in opposition or in punjab govt........so his intentions r clear.....i m sory main yeh batain na hi IK k pyar main na hi PTI k bukhaar main keh rha hun......main tu keh rha hun bhai sach sirf aik side ka tu mat bolo na.....iska sach sirf PPP ya PTI pe tanqeed k liay hi niklta hai?....y?...very big question mark?.....i m sory bro....dis is not argument for da sake of argument

Before I start to counter your arguments, I want to tell you that I am not here to defend Talat. I launched whole thread against his last interview, which was unfair to IK. He has full right to ask hard questions from the leader but he should give incentive of appreciation to Imran by mentioning his boldness and daring character over other leaders like nawaz and zardari. He didn't and you rightly said that this time he tried , deliberately or unknowingly, to confuse the viewers about IK. It is IK who really tackled his questions beautifully but he didn't leave any room for him. I don't want to go through all of those points again.

You said journalism mean is impartiality about the fact and then in the following sentence that if one want to remain impartial and doesn't want to tell truth then it is unfair and journalism will become source of misleading people rather than telling them right thing. If you see there are contradiction in your statement. In journalism, you will have to be impartial as far as reporting is concerned but don't need to be impartial if you are analyzing some incident. There is a difference in reporting and analysis. when you are reporting something you will have to tell exactly what happened and, as being good reporter, you should not add even bit into it. For example, According to you example if two guy are fighting and one guy punched other twice then reporter can not say that he punched him three times because, in that case, he will be distorting the fact. But if you are analyzing something then you are not tied in such restriction. You become opinion maker and you use your skills to convince the people about your version on some issue/party or whatever. you might be doing it with full of your honesty and with impartiality or may be for your vested interest. I would like to sum this up with this that reporting means telling fact (which is seen) and analysis mean telling right thing.

then you said that he does not choose the important issues and you gave example of the issue of CM's daughter. Now look, do you think matter of CM's daughter is so important then division of sindh. I am sorry to say but brother you are also being victim of this spicy journalism. To be very honest, for me this issue should have remained in news and if some anchor wanted to discuss this kind of matter in his program then he should have given not more than 5 mins to it. Now I know you may disagree with me (if you think emotionally) here but who doesn't know this mentality of our elite. They should do program against this VIP culture, chaudharism, wadaira-ism, shah-ism, malak-ism, raja-ism, and so on but this incident has no comparison with the matter of division of Sindh. I think it is good of him that he didn't do program on this because he could have gotten lot of ratings to make some kind of juicy and spicy program on this issue. But he gave priority to national issue on "hot issue". Since you are also die hard supporter of IK and PTI like me so I and you might think that this issue was important then sindh's division. But, in reality, it is not.

I agree with you that Talat kept "hoola haath" on PML-N but I didn't see him supporting them or not giving them hard time in talk shows. you are judging this in the comparison of PTI so It would, of course, seem less :-).

I can see your emotions and devotion with IK and PTI in your second last paragraph. This is my desire as well that all anchors should tell people clearly that PTI is better than PPP and PML-N and other parties because it is not tested. But, my friend, this is duty of PTI, its leadership and its supporter to convince the people that they are the best. Media and anchors can only facilitate them to convey their message to people. Now you can argue on this that whether PTI is being given a fair chance or not. But you can not demand from media and anchors that they tell people that this option is better than all. You should remember that there are lot of supporters of PML-N and PPP out there who might think that media is getting biased. Then there will be no credibility left for media. would you like to take favor from an incredible media, which will have no use.

Bashing is negative act. nobody should bash anybody. I think you are trying to say that he never spoke against their policies. It might be true but you can't say he is not honest. for example Haroon Rashid always speak in favor of IK so would you think he is a dishonest person. But PML_N supporter might think that. But, in fact, the honesty and dishonesty of an analyst should be judged on the basis that how much their analysis are based on facts instead of based on the views of different segment of the societies. you should not doubt somebody's intention just because somebody is not doing less programs against some paty. To be very honest, sometime, I really get bored of so much IK's criticism on Noora League even though he says everything truth about them.

God bless you

 

[Nabeel Khan]

Before I start to counter your arguments, I want to tell you that I am not here to defend Talat. I launched whole thread against his last interview, which was unfair to IK. He has full right to ask hard questions from the leader but he should give incentive of appreciation to Imran by mentioning his boldness and daring character over other leaders like nawaz and zardari. He didn't and you rightly said that this time he tried , deliberately or unknowingly, to confuse the viewers about IK. It is IK who really tackled his questions beautifully but he didn't leave any room for him. I don't want to go through all of those points again.

You said journalism mean is impartiality about the fact and then in the following sentence that if one want to remain impartial and doesn't want to tell truth then it is unfair and journalism will become source of misleading people rather than telling them right thing. If you see there are contradiction in your statement. In journalism, you will have to be impartial as far as reporting is concerned but don't need to be impartial if you are analyzing some incident. There is a difference in reporting and analysis. when you are reporting something you will have to tell exactly what happened and, as being good reporter, you should not add even bit into it. For example, According to you example if two guy are fighting and one guy punched other twice then reporter can not say that he punched him three times because, in that case, he will be distorting the fact. But if you are analyzing something then you are not tied in such restriction. You become opinion maker and you use your skills to convince the people about your version on some issue/party or whatever. you might be doing it with full of your honesty and with impartiality or may be for your vested interest. I would like to sum this up with this that reporting means telling fact (which is seen) and analysis mean telling right thing.

then you said that he does not choose the important issues and you gave example of the issue of CM's daughter. Now look, do you think matter of CM's daughter is so important then division of sindh. I am sorry to say but brother you are also being victim of this spicy journalism. To be very honest, for me this issue should have remained in news and if some anchor wanted to discuss this kind of matter in his program then he should have given not more than 5 mins to it. Now I know you may disagree with me (if you think emotionally) here but who doesn't know this mentality of our elite. They should do program against this VIP culture, chaudharism, wadaira-ism, shah-ism, malak-ism, raja-ism, and so on but this incident has no comparison with the matter of division of Sindh. I think it is good of him that he didn't do program on this because he could have gotten lot of ratings to make some kind of juicy and spicy program on this issue. But he gave priority to national issue on "hot issue". Since you are also die hard supporter of IK and PTI like me so I and you might think that this issue was important then sindh's division. But, in reality, it is not.

I agree with you that Talat kept "hoola haath" on PML-N but I didn't see him supporting them or not giving them hard time in talk shows. you are judging this in the comparison of PTI so It would, of course, seem less :-).

I can see your emotions and devotion with IK and PTI in your second last paragraph. This is my desire as well that all anchors should tell people clearly that PTI is better than PPP and PML-N and other parties because it is not tested. But, my friend, this is duty of PTI, its leadership and its supporter to convince the people that they are the best. Media and anchors can only facilitate them to convey their message to people. Now you can argue on this that whether PTI is being given a fair chance or not. But you can not demand from media and anchors that they tell people that this option is better than all. You should remember that there are lot of supporters of PML-N and PPP out there who might think that media is getting biased. Then there will be no credibility left for media. would you like to take favor from an incredible media, which will have no use.

Bashing is negative act. nobody should bash anybody. I think you are trying to say that he never spoke against their policies. It might be true but you can't say he is not honest. for example Haroon Rashid always speak in favor of IK so would you think he is a dishonest person. But PML_N supporter might think that. But, in fact, the honesty and dishonesty of an analyst should be judged on the basis that how much their analysis are based on facts instead of based on the views of different segment of the societies. you should not doubt somebody's intention just because somebody is not doing less programs against some paty. To be very honest, sometime, I really get bored of so much IK's criticism on Noora League even though he says everything truth about them.

God bless you

bro dats wat PTI's problem is.....even though,we r on right,but could not prove it so easily.....same is da case wid PTI' spokes persons on electronic media.....they r so pooor in building thier arguments,dat sometimes the viewer thinks that PTI is wrong......just lack of communication skils...pooor home work....poor media management....bro..this all stuck to a media war....i think i could not clear my point about talat....as u said ....(skills to convince the people about your version on some issue/party )....so from ur dis point of view anybody,who can convince ,by his/her skills is analyser and he should mold the public opinion?.......yehi kaam lawers kartay hain courts main....wo qatal k mulzim ko apnay skills k zariay sacha sabit kar daitay hain...or adalat un se convince ho k usay barri kar deti hai??????where goes sach in dis??????this is talat's way of doing things bro....yeh zaroori nahi hai k aap koi baat kar k hi us pe awam ka mood banain....ap kisi issue ko ignore kar k ya us pe naa baat kar k b awam ka mood bana saktay hain.(awam will say,yes yar talat pmln ki performance pe baat nahi kar rha tu performance theek hi hogi).........bhai jan main ne ap se pehlay b yehi kaha tha k 2 logo ki fight ko as it is byan karnay ko koi nhi keh rha talat ko........us pe apna expert opinion day...k bhai wahan mazlooom ko maar pad rhi thi....na k us figjht se aankhain chura k aagay aik orat kunwain se pani nikal rahi hai tu us pe apna tajziya paish kar day........orat k pani per b tajziya karain(sindh ki bat) b karain....but us rooot cuase ko tu identify jo is saray system ki jadon main betha hua hai......or wo rooot cause hai majoooda ruling elite.....agar aap sirf markaz ko nishana banay rakhain gay....jo k most of the media karta hai....or province ko free hand dain gay tu IK ne tu us ko criticise karna hai na bhai?.....

sara media PPP k peechay tu pada rehta hai jo k sahi baat hai....unho ne nakedly khaya hai...but wat abt these white coler criminals?.........inhain kyun nahi expose kiya jata?......bhai i m not a narrow minded supporter,but let me tel u......last 5 years se kis cheez pe sahafat ho rahi hai?......hakoomton ki karkardagi per na?........tu usi pe baat kyun nahi karta talat??......or kya talat se nuclear missile banwana hai hum ne?.........bhai jab sari khel is baat pe khatam honi hai k ainda elections main konsi party jeetay gi?....kis ne waaday poooray kiay??kis ne opposition achi ki?kis ne sooobon main hakooomat achi ki??kis ne idaron ko nuqsan pohnchya???

yehi sahafat hai na bhai?ya water kit pe 2 haftay talat se tajziya karwana hai?????talat saab muashray ki burayiyan tu dhooond kar un pe programs kar rhay hain...but muashray ko is haal tak pohnchanay wali mukhtalif parties pe kyun nahi seedhi tarha baat kar rhay?........ooo bhai mujhay pata hai main beemar hun....but kis wajha se beemar hun ya meri beemari kya hai yeh batao mujhay doctor sahab?????

talat sab hamain pata hai sindh k misayal ka......but kis wajha se ye hua hai us main kon konsi party ne usay is hal tak pohnchya hai usko expose karo......seedhi seedhi tarha...isharon kinyaon main nahi.....hamain apna opinion banana hai bhai....hamain vote dalna hai kuch arsay baad talat saab....agar ap mujhay nahi batain gay analyse kar k PPP behter hai ya pmln ya pti,tu main last time ki tarha pmln ko hi vote dooon ga jis ne nakis opposition kar k mulk ko yahan tak pohnchya....jis ki short sightedness ki wajha se soobay ki bijli bananay k paisay laptops distributions pe lag rahay hain.....talat sab ap mujhay nahi batain gay k tax payer ka paisa bay nazeer income support program se ya mass transit program k teht zaya kiya ja rha hai tu main unhi parties ko phir lay aaon ga........aapki fair sahafat us time ghas charnay chalay jay gi,jab yehi 2 3 parties phir coallition main bethi hon gi.......janab merey cancer ka ilaj disprene se mat kijiay.....mujhay seedhi tarha bataiay k merey cancer ki yeh wajha hai ta k main ainda perhaiz karooon///////

 

[k.a.kiani]

bro dats wat pti's problem is.....even though,we r on right,but could not prove it so easily.....same is da case wid pti' spokes persons on electronic media.....they r so pooor in building thier arguments,dat sometimes the viewer thinks that pti is wrong......just lack of communication skils...pooor home work....poor media management....bro..this all stuck to a media war....i think i could not clear my point about talat....as u said ....(skills to convince the people about your version on some issue/party )....so from ur dis point of view anybody,who can convince ,by his/her skills is analyser and he should mold the public opinion?.......yehi kaam lawers kartay hain courts main....wo qatal k mulzim ko apnay skills k zariay sacha sabit kar daitay hain...or adalat un se convince ho k usay barri kar deti hai??????where goes sach in dis??????this is talat's way of doing things bro....yeh zaroori nahi hai k aap koi baat kar k hi us pe awam ka mood banain....ap kisi issue ko ignore kar k ya us pe naa baat kar k b awam ka mood bana saktay hain.(awam will say,yes yar talat pmln ki performance pe baat nahi kar rha tu performance theek hi hogi).........bhai jan main ne ap se pehlay b yehi kaha tha k 2 logo ki fight ko as it is byan karnay ko koi nhi keh rha talat ko........us pe apna expert opinion day...k bhai wahan mazlooom ko maar pad rhi thi....na k us figjht se aankhain chura k aagay aik orat kunwain se pani nikal rahi hai tu us pe apna tajziya paish kar day........orat k pani per b tajziya karain(sindh ki bat) b karain....but us rooot cuase ko tu identify jo is saray system ki jadon main betha hua hai......or wo rooot cause hai majoooda ruling elite.....agar aap sirf markaz ko nishana banay rakhain gay....jo k most of the media karta hai....or province ko free hand dain gay tu ik ne tu us ko criticise karna hai na bhai?.....

Sara media ppp k peechay tu pada rehta hai jo k sahi baat hai....unho ne nakedly khaya hai...but wat abt these white coler criminals?.........inhain kyun nahi expose kiya jata?......bhai i m not a narrow minded supporter,but let me tel u......last 5 years se kis cheez pe sahafat ho rahi hai?......hakoomton ki karkardagi per na?........tu usi pe baat kyun nahi karta talat??......or kya talat se nuclear missile banwana hai hum ne?.........bhai jab sari khel is baat pe khatam honi hai k ainda elections main konsi party jeetay gi?....kis ne waaday poooray kiay??kis ne opposition achi ki?kis ne sooobon main hakooomat achi ki??kis ne idaron ko nuqsan pohnchya???

Yehi sahafat hai na bhai?ya water kit pe 2 haftay talat se tajziya karwana hai?????talat saab muashray ki burayiyan tu dhooond kar un pe programs kar rhay hain...but muashray ko is haal tak pohnchanay wali mukhtalif parties pe kyun nahi seedhi tarha baat kar rhay?........ooo bhai mujhay pata hai main beemar hun....but kis wajha se beemar hun ya meri beemari kya hai yeh batao mujhay doctor sahab?????

talat sab hamain pata hai sindh k misayal ka......but kis wajha se ye hua hai us main kon konsi party ne usay is hal tak pohnchya hai usko expose karo......seedhi seedhi tarha...isharon kinyaon main nahi.....hamain apna opinion banana hai bhai....hamain vote dalna hai kuch arsay baad talat saab....agar ap mujhay nahi batain gay analyse kar k ppp behter hai ya pmln ya pti,tu main last time ki tarha pmln ko hi vote dooon ga jis ne nakis opposition kar k mulk ko yahan tak pohnchya....jis ki short sightedness ki wajha se soobay ki bijli bananay k paisay laptops distributions pe lag rahay hain.....talat sab ap mujhay nahi batain gay k tax payer ka paisa bay nazeer income support program se ya mass transit program k teht zaya kiya ja rha hai tu main unhi parties ko phir lay aaon ga........aapki fair sahafat us time ghas charnay chalay jay gi,jab yehi 2 3 parties phir coallition main bethi hon gi.......janab merey cancer ka ilaj disprene se mat kijiay.....mujhay seedhi tarha bataiay k merey cancer ki yeh wajha hai ta k main ainda perhaiz karooon///////​

اچھا اب میں ایک آخری کوشش کرتا ہوں بات سمجھانے کی اگر کامیاب رہا تو ٹھیک ورنہ آپ کو پورا حق ہے اپنی راے کو محفوظ رکھنے کا۔ دیکھیں پہلے تو آپ سے مجھے گلہ یہ ہے کہ خرابیا ں تو آپ میڈیا کی بتا رہیں ہیں اور واردات آپ میڈیا کے طریقے سے ہی ڈال رہے ہیں۔ جب میں یہ کہا کہ تجزیہ نگار اپنی صلاحیتوں کی مدد سے اپنا موقف منوا لیتے ہیں تو آپ نے اسکا مطلب یہ لیا کہ وہ اپنی صلاحیتوں سے غلط باتوں کو منوالیتے ہیں اور پھرآپ نے وکیل کی مثال دی کہ کیسے وہ ایک قتل کے ملزم کو قتل کے الزام سے بچا لیتا ہے۔ آپ کی بات بھی غلط اور مثال بھی غلط اور وہ ایسے کہ کیا ہمیشہ تجزیہ نگار اپنے غلط موقف کو ہی صحیح منواتے اپنی صلاحیتوں سے کیا ہر تجزیہ نگار کا ورژن غلط ہی ہوتا ہے اگر نہیں تو پھر ایسے تجزیہ نگار جو حق پر ہیں اس پر وکیل والی مثال صادق نہیں آتی۔ دوسری بات کیا قتل کے ملزم کو ہمیشہ مجرم ہی ثابت ہونا چاہیے؟ ہو سکتا ہے کہ وہ واقع ہی مجرم نہ ہو اور جس وکیل پر آپ الزام لگا رہے ہیں ہو سکتا ہے وہ ٹھیک کر رہا ہو قتل کے ملزم کو بچا کر۔ جہاں تک میں سمجھا ہوں آپکا طلعت پر الزام صرف اس مفروضہ پر ہے کہ طلعت کسی خاص موضوع پر بات نہیں کر رہا جسکو آپ یا تحریک انصاف اہمیت کے قابل سمجھتی ہے ۔ اگر ایسا ہے تو آپ کو میں پھر کہوں گا کہ یہ نا انصافی والی بات ہے ۔ طلعت کسی چیز سے نظر چراتا ہوا مجھے تو نہیں لگ رہا اور نہ ہی اس نے تحریک انصاف کے خلاف کمپین چلایی ہے۔ اگر ایسا ہوتا تو میں یا تو ابھی تک طلعت کو سننا چھوڑ چکا ہوتا یا پھر تحریک انصاف کی سپورٹ سے بازآچکاہوتا۔ میں نے ہمیشہ طلعت کو جس موضوع پر اور جوانٹرویو بھی دیکھا ہے اسمیں مجھے اسکی جانبدار سوچ نظر نہیں آیی۔


باقی کون سی پارٹی نے وعدے پورے کیے اور کس پارٹی کو اگلا الیکشن جیتنا چاہیے اسکے بارے میں آپ الیکشن کے قریب پروگرام دیکھنا اور پھر آپ فیصلہ کرنا کون جانبداری سے کام لیتا ہے اور کون غیر جانبداری سے میں بھی دیکھوں گا اور آپ بھی دیکھیے گا۔ ابھی سے اس پر جج منٹ پاس نہ کریں کیونکہ کل ہو سکتا ہے آپکو طلعت ہی پی ٹی آیی کی سپورٹ کرتا نظر آیے اور آپکو شرمندگی ہو۔ سو یہ ڈیمانڈ کرنا قبل از وقت ہے۔


آخر میں میں صرف یہ ہی کہوں گا کہ آپ کا طلعت کو جج کرنے کا سانچہ یہ ہے کہ عمران پی ٹی آیی کی سپورٹ کیوں نہیں کرتا، مسلم لیگ ن ، پی پی پی ، اے این پی ، ایم کیو ایم کی بیشنگ کیون نہیں کرتا تو میرے بھایی آپ یہ سانچہ بدلیں کیونکہ یہ کام طلعت کا نہیں ہے ​

 

[Nabeel Khan]

اچھا اب میں ایک آخری کوشش کرتا ہوں بات سمجھانے کی اگر کامیاب رہا تو ٹھیک ورنہ آپ کو پورا حق ہے اپنی راے کو محفوظ رکھنے کا۔ دیکھیں پہلے تو آپ سے مجھے گلہ یہ ہے کہ خرابیا ں تو آپ میڈیا کی بتا رہیں ہیں اور واردات آپ میڈیا کے طریقے سے ہی ڈال رہے ہیں۔ جب میں یہ کہا کہ تجزیہ نگار اپنی صلاحیتوں کی مدد سے اپنا موقف منوا لیتے ہیں تو آپ نے اسکا مطلب یہ لیا کہ وہ اپنی صلاحیتوں سے غلط باتوں کو منوالیتے ہیں اور پھرآپ نے وکیل کی مثال دی کہ کیسے وہ ایک قتل کے ملزم کو قتل کے الزام سے بچا لیتا ہے۔ آپ کی بات بھی غلط اور مثال بھی غلط اور وہ ایسے کہ کیا ہمیشہ تجزیہ نگار اپنے غلط موقف کو ہی صحیح منواتے اپنی صلاحیتوں سے کیا ہر تجزیہ نگار کا ورژن غلط ہی ہوتا ہے اگر نہیں تو پھر ایسے تجزیہ نگار جو حق پر ہیں اس پر وکیل والی مثال صادق نہیں آتی۔ دوسری بات کیا قتل کے ملزم کو ہمیشہ مجرم ہی ثابت ہونا چاہیے؟ ہو سکتا ہے کہ وہ واقع ہی مجرم نہ ہو اور جس وکیل پر آپ الزام لگا رہے ہیں ہو سکتا ہے وہ ٹھیک کر رہا ہو قتل کے ملزم کو بچا کر۔ جہاں تک میں سمجھا ہوں آپکا طلعت پر الزام صرف اس مفروضہ پر ہے کہ طلعت کسی خاص موضوع پر بات نہیں کر رہا جسکو آپ یا تحریک انصاف اہمیت کے قابل سمجھتی ہے ۔ اگر ایسا ہے تو آپ کو میں پھر کہوں گا کہ یہ نا انصافی والی بات ہے ۔ طلعت کسی چیز سے نظر چراتا ہوا مجھے تو نہیں لگ رہا اور نہ ہی اس نے تحریک انصاف کے خلاف کمپین چلایی ہے۔ اگر ایسا ہوتا تو میں یا تو ابھی تک طلعت کو سننا چھوڑ چکا ہوتا یا پھر تحریک انصاف کی سپورٹ سے بازآچکاہوتا۔ میں نے ہمیشہ طلعت کو جس موضوع پر اور جوانٹرویو بھی دیکھا ہے اسمیں مجھے اسکی جانبدار سوچ نظر نہیں آیی۔


باقی کون سی پارٹی نے وعدے پورے کیے اور کس پارٹی کو اگلا الیکشن جیتنا چاہیے اسکے بارے میں آپ الیکشن کے قریب پروگرام دیکھنا اور پھر آپ فیصلہ کرنا کون جانبداری سے کام لیتا ہے اور کون غیر جانبداری سے میں بھی دیکھوں گا اور آپ بھی دیکھیے گا۔ ابھی سے اس پر جج منٹ پاس نہ کریں کیونکہ کل ہو سکتا ہے آپکو طلعت ہی پی ٹی آیی کی سپورٹ کرتا نظر آیے اور آپکو شرمندگی ہو۔ سو یہ ڈیمانڈ کرنا قبل از وقت ہے۔


آخر میں میں صرف یہ ہی کہوں گا کہ آپ کا طلعت کو جج کرنے کا سانچہ یہ ہے کہ عمران پی ٹی آیی کی سپورٹ کیوں نہیں کرتا، مسلم لیگ ن ، پی پی پی ، اے این پی ، ایم کیو ایم کی بیشنگ کیون نہیں کرتا تو میرے بھایی آپ یہ سانچہ بدلیں کیونکہ یہ کام طلعت کا نہیں ہے [/right]

bro i quit...i m going to end dis argument,as i think,i could not make my point clear....anyways...u keep ur faith in talat n let me c near election,when PTI will b vanished from da scene,due to ur kind journalist talat n his kindness on PTI.....forget it now.....u win,i loose...keep it up....anyways...thnx n gud conversation..tc.

 

[k.a.kiani]

bro i quit...i m going to end dis argument,as i think,i could not make my point clear....anyways...u keep ur faith in talat n let me c near election,when PTI will b vanished from da scene,due to ur kind journalist talat n his kindness on PTI.....forget it now.....u win,i loose...keep it up....anyways...thnx n gud conversation..tc.

Brother Aisi political party aur aisi insaaf ki tehreek ko vanish hi ho jaana chahiye jis anchors aur media ki be-saakhiyan darkaar hai aur unn mein khudd koi jaan nahi. Tehreek-e-pakistan kya media ya journalists ne kaamyaab ki thi. Nahi na tu phir ye bhi maano kah PTI jeetai gi apne bal bootai per aur ussai media ko coverage daina hi ho gi jaise Aman march ko coverage daina hi pari. so you don't worry PTI will never be vanished. I can bet on it

 

[Nabeel Khan]

Brother Aisi political party aur aisi insaaf ki tehreek ko vanish hi ho jaana chahiye jis anchors aur media ki be-saakhiyan darkaar hai aur unn mein khudd koi jaan nahi. Tehreek-e-pakistan kya media ya journalists ne kaamyaab ki thi. Nahi na tu phir ye bhi maano kah PTI jeetai gi apne bal bootai per aur ussai media ko coverage daina hi ho gi jaise Aman march ko coverage daina hi pari. so you don't worry PTI will never be vanished. I can bet on it

Aakhri baat pe itefaq k sath God Bless u...