All members need to advise existing "SECT" in Islam and most active in our forum.

[cefspan]

sayeenwada is also Qadyani...Thats why tlking like that.

Please try to identify these non muslims., Which r against Muslims and Pakistan, and laugh at our brothers death.

I was kind of thinking that he mould be an ahmedi .... Thanks for confirming.

Search a bit regarding Hashashins , The Assasins حشّاشين‎ , they call themselves muslima according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins
see the symbol , it defines everything


But these r not , they called Lord of the mountains Hasan Sabah as their prophet (Naouzbillah)

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U will be amazed to see the similarity between them and any other , As if they kept hidden in history and jumped out in open as ahmedis .
Have a look!

 

[cefspan]

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL ,
DO U KNOW WHAT خروج IS?

I will answer tomorrow.

 

[Raaz]

Exactly,
You all agree that Ahmadis do not belong to your version of Islam and they believe in the Islam of Hadhrat Mohammed Mustafa pbuh.

Then just get out.

As we made u out of Pakistan ,Bangladesh Indoneshia, ....

It has aleadry been decided that u r not Muslim, So why coming here and always discussion with us.

High IQ scanner we do need to segregate u people.U think that u r so smart that u could change quran by its meaning.

And nobody could understand it.

Mirza was sick too and all sick community follows him.

 

[Raaz]

My Question is is this Qadyaniees forum ? why they r here to hurt us.

We have no problem with sects, Only these r the disturbing people. and Every discussion tangle around when one of them put his remarks. Faqeerra is the worst example.

And these people Laugh at the killings of Pakistanis and Muslims.

 

[Doorandesh]

Qadianis have been declared non-Muslim in Pakistan, so that has been settled. Since they are still Pakistani they should be welcomed to discuss Siasat as any other minority. However in Islamic religious discussions they should not post their point of view for obvious reasons.

 

[Raaz]

Qadianis have been declared non-Muslim in Pakistan, so that has been settled. Since they are still Pakistani they should be welcomed to discuss Siasat as any other minority. However in Islamic religious discussions they should not post their point of view for obvious reasons.

They r no more Pakistani, they have settled in other countries.

Their mission is capture our country. So that they could make it a jew state.

 

[Bangash]

Dear Members,

Further to my previous thread in which, we collect valued feed back from all of you. Now may I request you all to explain in short about existing "SECTS" Please make it simple without criticizing any one else.

Regards.

بہت سے فرقوں کے بارے میں تھوڑا بہت معلوم ہے لیکن میں نہیں سمجھتا کہ مجھے دوسروں کے مسلک یا فرقے کی تشریح کرنے یا غلط اور برا کہنے کا حق حاصل ہے. اگر کوئی میرے سامنے شرق کرے تو اسکو سمجھانابہتر ہے. اگر وہ میری بات سمجھنے کے باوجود اپنے نظریے پر قائم ہےتو پھر میں اس فیصلے کا حق رکتا ہوں کہ اس شخص کے ساتھ تعلق رکنا ہے یا نہیں- میں الله تعالیٰ کا شکر گزار ہوں کہ میرا تعلق دیوبندیوں میں سے ہے- اگر اپ کو یہ معلوم کرنا ہے
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[Ehraz]

My Question is is this Qadyaniees forum ? why they r here to hurt us. And these people Laugh at the killings of Pakistanis and Muslims.

US? Are you so kind and DEFINE the word US? You are not united in your own sorrows., but you are all united in abusing Ahmadis. Your a laughable person... Go and give me BAD ranking and feel GOOD *smile*
If you wanna see what this WORD US means, then look at out Jamaat - No Matter Where In The World, only with a show of hand, We Stand and Sit With Our Imam - this is UNITY

 

[Raaz]

US? Are you so kind and DEFINE the word US? You are not united in your own sorrows., but you are all united in abusing Ahmadis. Your a laughable person... Go and give me BAD ranking and feel GOOD *smile*
If you wanna see what this WORD US means, then look at out Jamaat - No Matter Where In The World, only with a show of hand, We Stand and Sit With Our Imam - this is UNITY

u r just ????? ?? ???
Always make stupid meanings of words.

I know u, I have visited your centres couple of times..

u have Lahori group , against the Qadyanis , this is within Mirzaiism.

Mirzai is a Cult only, U know the name of angle ,Mentally sick mirza told , that Tichi Tichi is name of angle.

How much intelligent u r , could not judge the false and reality.

These r Munafiq of today. same as Munafqeen of the time of Rasool Allah.

They also used to say that we r smart and would we be Muslims like these stupids.

Chechk this out,

for Muslim brothers, please vist his web site for more information of this cult.

http://ahmedi.org/
http://www.youtube.com/akshaikhlover1

 

[sarmad]

Abbasi bhai, what is the point and purpose of this thread?? nothing makes sense in your question

 

[sayeenwada]

Then just get out.

As we made u out of Pakistan ,Bangladesh Indoneshia, ....

It has aleadry been decided that u r not Muslim, So why coming here and always discussion with us.

High IQ scanner we do need to segregate u people.U think that u r so smart that u could change quran by its meaning.

And nobody could understand it.

Mirza was sick too and all sick community follows him.

a) There are millions of Ahmadis in Pakistan, Bangladesh, India etc. so many that it would blow your mind away. Don't take our Sabr as a sign for weakness as we are taught Sabr and rely on our prayers to Allah the Exalted. And, what did we get for our Prayers, a jammat which spans the Globe and teaches peace, true Quranic teachings and is respected throughout the world.....Allah the Exalted has abundantly blessed this Jammat....on the other hand, look at what has happened to that so called parliament and their mulaa or bhutto, zia etc. etc.?

b) First, stop killing each other, than come talk to us, fix your own problems and we pray that Allah the Exalted have mercy on you.....Moreover, what ummat do you profess about kicking us out of? the ones that run around like savages and call eachother Kafir, suicide bomb etc.?...if so, we are happy as Allah the Exalted has showed His Exalted signs and Divine punishment is there for all to see and nothing but blessings for Jammat Ahmadiyaa

c) Once again, the so called Parliament that declared us "Kafir" as well as their mulaa banshees have destroyed, robbed and devastated Pakistan, moreover, they were called Dakoo, rapists, savages, drunk bastards etc. by their own colleagues..never mind us..

 

[A.Ali.T]

a) There are millions of Ahmadis in Pakistan, Bangladesh, India etc. so many that it would blow your mind away. Don't take our Sabr as a sign for weakness as we are taught Sabr and rely on our prayers to Allah the Exalted. And, what did we get for our Prayers, a jammat which spans the Globe and teaches peace, true Quranic teachings and is respected throughout the world.....Allah the Exalted has abundantly blessed this Jammat....on the other hand, look at what has happened to that so called parliament and their mulaa or bhutto, zia etc. etc.?

b) First, stop killing each other, than come talk to us, fix your own problems and we pray that Allah the Exalted have mercy on you.....Moreover, what ummat do you profess about kicking us out of? the ones that run around like savages and call eachother Kafir, suicide bomb etc.?...if so, we are happy as Allah the Exalted has showed His Exalted signs and Divine punishment is there for all to see and nothing but blessings for Jammat Ahmadiyaa

c) Once again, the so called Parliament that declared us "Kafir" as well as their mulaa banshees have destroyed, robbed and devastated Pakistan, moreover, they were called Dakoo, rapists, savages, drunk bastards etc. by their own colleagues..never mind us..

sayeenwada and Ehraz
I think in your heart you believe that Ahmadis are better than various sects of muslims, can you explain how and why you are better then them?

 

[A.Ali.T]

بہت سے فرقوں کے بارے میں تھوڑا بہت معلوم ہے لیکن میں نہیں سمجھتا کہ مجھے دوسروں کے مسلک یا فرقے کی تشریح کرنے یا غلط اور برا کہنے کا حق حاصل ہے. اگر کوئی میرے سامنے شرق کرے تو اسکو سمجھانابہتر ہے. اگر وہ میری بات سمجھنے کے باوجود اپنے نظریے پر قائم ہےتو پھر میں اس فیصلے کا حق رکتا ہوں کہ اس شخص کے ساتھ تعلق رکنا ہے یا نہیں- میں الله تعالیٰ کا شکر گزار ہوں کہ میرا تعلق دیوبندیوں میں سے ہے- اگر اپ کو یہ معلوم کرنا ہے
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Bangash
Can you explain how and why deobandis are better than other sects of Islam?

 

[basim973]

Dear Members,

Further to my previous thread in which, we collect valued feed back from all of you. Now may I request you all to explain in short about existing "SECTS" Please make it simple without criticizing any one else.

Regards.

Every one knows about the ayah that donot be divided in sects and hold tight the rope of Allah.................
Be a muslim follow the quran and the sunnah and take wot the prophet (pbuh) gave you and abstain from wot he(pbuh) stopped you from..........
May ALLAH open our eyes and hearts for his true deen and save us all from the divisions in Islam

 

[Ehraz]

a) There are millions of Ahmadis in Pakistan, Bangladesh, India etc. so many that it would blow your mind away. Don't take our Sabr as a sign for weakness as we are taught Sabr and rely on our prayers to Allah the Exalted. And, what did we get for our Prayers, a jammat which spans the Globe and teaches peace, true Quranic teachings and is respected throughout the world.....Allah the Exalted has abundantly blessed this Jammat....on the other hand, look at what has happened to that so called parliament and their mulaa or bhutto, zia etc. etc.?

b) First, stop killing each other, than come talk to us, fix your own problems and we pray that Allah the Exalted have mercy on you.....Moreover, what ummat do you profess about kicking us out of? the ones that run around like savages and call eachother Kafir, suicide bomb etc.?...if so, we are happy as Allah the Exalted has showed His Exalted signs and Divine punishment is there for all to see and nothing but blessings for Jammat Ahmadiyaa

c) Once again, the so called Parliament that declared us "Kafir" as well as their mulaa banshees have destroyed, robbed and devastated Pakistan, moreover, they were called Dakoo, rapists, savages, drunk bastards etc. by their own colleagues..never mind us..

Well said sir. Raaz must be burning like a Christmas tree... :-)

 

[usm100]

sayeenwada is also Qadyani...Thats why tlking like that.

Please try to identify these non muslims., Which r against Muslims and Pakistan, and laugh at our brothers death.

Yes man keep the good work. We all are with you and so are all our mullahs. How could they laugh at us ( though we never saw that the whole community laughing at something but who cares ) ... We should simply kill the qadiyanis, hang them where ever you find them. Put a bullet in there heads. Or why not just qadianis, lets do it for all the other sects first and then to christians , jews and offcourse the americans. Lets also kill some russians , and chinese too as they are oppressing the muslims there. Thats a good plan. Come on lets start man we are all ready. Take the lead lol

 

[Ehraz]

sayeenwada and Ehraz I think in your heart you believe that Ahmadis are better than various sects of muslims, can you explain how and why you are better then them?

No one is empowered to give a verdict about who is better or worse Muslim. Is not Allah the Greatest of all Judges?
Your question should be - Which Community follow the strictly the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (saw) and his Sahabas

Now, let us see what the Holy Qur’an says about a True Muslim. God Almighty has commanded us, in the Holy Qur’an, that a Muslim should enjoin what is good and forbid evil; and if you do that, in that lies your greatness. As Allah say: “You are the best people raised for the good of mankind; you enjoin what is good and forbid evil and believe in God…” (3:111)

Muslims Created For The Good of Mankind

Now, as stated in the Holy Quran, you have been created for the good of mankind. So, it cannot be that a person should be created for the good of mankind, but nothing except mischief should come from him and mankind should suffer from him and be terrorized by him. In fact, Allah has taught Muslims to work for the good of mankind, to guide them towards that which is good, to invite them towards God, their Creator, and to fulfill the obligations that they owe to Him and His people. Everyone should benefit from a Muslim. And Muslims should stop those among them who are involved in evil and are causing loss and suffering to people, and are killing Allah’s creatures without any just cause. In this commandment, therefore, a Muslim has been made responsible for the good and the betterment of the entire mankind.

However, we have never engaged in violence because true Islam is about Peace – and we're showing it by example, not just lip service... recall the 28th Mai.2010 incident in Lahore. The Ahmadiyya Jamaat is the single most powerful antidote to the terrorists who have hijacked Pakistan. Ahmadiyya is not interested in political Power nor it has a political wing. Similarly, it is the only Islamic organization to endorse a separation of mosque and state.

Ahmadiyya is one of the leading movements in Islam to bring Muslims out of the dark ages - divesting them of the fanatical beliefs that have been the source of so much bloodshed and violence in the world today.

Sayeenwada can certainly tell more about the Jamaat.

 

[Bangash]

Bangash
Can you explain how and why deobandis are better than other sects of Islam?

ویسے بہت سے فرقوں میں اتنا خاص فرق نہیں صرف مدرسے علیحدہ ہیں- میں نے یہ نہیں کہا ہے کہ ہم بہتر ہیں دوسروں سے. اس کا فیصلہ الله پر چھوڑتے ہیں. یہ ضرور ہے کہ کچ فرقے شرق کرتے ہیں- کچ آخری نبی کو آخری نہیں کہتے.ایسے فرقوں کو مسلمان کہنا بھی غلط ہوگا. لیکن اگر اپ سننا ہی چاہتے ہیں تو پھر بتادیں کہ اپ کونسے فرقے کے ہیں میں کوشیش کرتا ہوں فرق بتانے کی
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[Ehraz]

Yes man keep the good work. We all are with you and so are all our mullahs. How could they laugh at us ( though we never saw that the whole community laughing at something but who cares ) ... We should simply kill the qadiyanis, hang them where ever you find them. Put a bullet in there heads. Or why not just qadianis, lets do it for all the other sects first and then to christians , jews and offcourse the americans. Lets also kill some russians , and chinese too as they are oppressing the muslims there. Thats a good plan. Come on lets start man we are all ready. Take the lead lol

Lol... please don't fool him... He can differentiate between sarcasm and reality... hey raaz, he is just kidding... :-)

 

[A.Ali.T]

ویسے بہت سے فرقوں میں اتنا خاص فرق نہیں صرف مدرسے علیحدہ ہیں- میں نے یہ نہیں کہا ہے کہ ہم بہتر ہیں دوسروں سے. اس کا فیصلہ الله پر چھوڑتے ہیں. یہ ضرور ہے کہ کچ فرقے شرق کرتے ہیں- کچ آخری نبی کو آخری نہیں کہتے.ایسے فرقوں کو مسلمان کہنا بھی غلط ہوگا. لیکن اگر اپ سننا ہی چاہتے ہیں تو پھر بتادیں کہ اپ کونسے فرقے کے ہیں میں کوشیش کرتا ہوں فرق بتانے کی
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Bangash
Brother most of the folks follow the sect of their parents, without doing the research for themselves whether they are right or wrong. Maybe you did not understand my question, let me rephrase it, what is it that you like about deobandis? You mentioned that some folks are indulged in doing "shirk", I am sure they know that "shirk" is the ultimate sin, there is no other sin greater than shirk, so whatever they are doing wrong is without intention or full knowledge. So, what I am asking is if you do a comparitive study of some of the major sects, what is that you like the most about deobandi school of thought?