Aftermath of Lahore May 28th Attack on Ahmadies (video 18+)

[mmck819]

Request for Qadiani Friends :-


i think we cannot put this incident in same basket with bomb blasts in public markets,hotels,play grounds etc.

There are two parties involved in this incident :-

1 - 80% responsibility on TTP shoulders , due to their intolerant attitude towards those people who differ their ideology , religiously and socio-politically.
2 - 20% responsibility on Qadiani Jamat who have been constantly provoking such religious extremist by not following Pakistani law.

Of course much has been discussed about 1st group , about their inhuman philosophy and anti-state extremist views.
But i would like to shed some light on 2nd group which is posing themselves as the most pious , innocent and "ALLAH mian ki gaye" in this situation.

Pakistani Constitutions has clearly declared Qadianies as Non-Muslims and there is strict prohibition for them in using islamic terms and ideologies , propogating their religious views in pakistan , converting any muslim to qadianism etc.

Artcile 298(A-C) is quite clear about this matter.

Now i dun know why the hell these people do not follow Pakistani Law???

I mean why they build their worship places similar to mosques ?
Why they say similar words like azaan ?
Why they propogate their religious views ?
Why they ask people to convert into qadianism for salvation ?

I mean , discussion is not whether article 298(A-C) is right or wrong , whether its against human freedom of expression or not . Its Pakistani LAW , dats it....

Everyone knows that in Europe , we cannot speak against holocaust , cannot write or say anything in favor of nazism , may be its against our freedom of expression but its their law , we are living here , n now WE have to follow this law or abonden this land.

if we wana live here , we have to sacrifice few things , otherwise go to somewhere else where such lawa are not applicable.

I again say , Its not the matter that its a right or wrong law....

but when its LAW , you have to follow it...

Qadianis always provoke such extremist elements by violating pakistani law , You can find dozens of videos on youtube where they are shedding crocodiel tears that we have been stopped to write ****ma on our mosques , our mosques were destroyed , few of our students were detained due to religious preaching in univeristy ...Now
...
i mean ...why u do such stupid things ...when u know its AGAINST law , it can provoke other religious community....

Sher ki dum ko cherna bhi he aur jab wo kacha khane ke liye aage berhe to shor bhi machana he

......

let me give another example....


His highness Khalifa-tul-Muslimeen who use to reside under protection of queen elizebeth , Can he say something against Queen of england???

Anything bad which is against english law???

Can he???

even if its right according to islamic perspective..

like , Can hazrat mirza masroor ahmad say that Queen wud be in HELL as she does not follow islam ???

Can he say that Prince charless is hell awarded due to his chiristianity ???

Can he say that I am the true Khalifa for all humanity and Queen of england is a false queen ?

No certainly not , because its against ENglish law....

i mean these all are right sentences as per Qadiani believes , but as they have to follow english law so they avoid giving such statements...


Now unki jaan jaati he pakistan me law follow kerne me ????

Pakistan ka bhi aik law , apko pasand ho ya na ho , YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT baby .....u have no choice , we do not have choice either as per constitution is concerned...


Stop acting like Muslims and you would be saved , Bring your identity , do not hide behind islamic names , if u do it , its against our law , people would be provoked and some stupid fanatic may come up with such type of barbaroc ideas.

So khamakha me masoom bnne ki zaroorat nahi he
tum log khud kisi se kam nahi ho...
pakistan me beth ke dharalle se logo ko qadiani bana rahe ho :-) aur ummed kerte ho ke tumhe pholon ke haar pehnaye jainge :-)


Panga bhi lete ho , aur jab aage wala banda tumhari pitayi lagaye to rotey bhi ho...

very well said .. totaly agreed with u .... i really hope if all these ahmadies will think like this , we wont have any disputes just like other faiths living in pakistan

 

[kashnex]

I am totally shattered and disgusted from this heinous act of killing innocent people. Regardless of their belief they have the right to live peacefully.

 

[azrana]

ya allaha in molwiaon sey bacha, most condemable

 

[azrana]

awan sb you are right, ,what about the pak laws which the guy have mentioned above, i have never heard about it, what about english queen he said, ?? is that true ?? we have such law, ?? in Pk

 

[rajakhanmd]

huh.. Then are you supporting TTP (Terrorist group)??.. Bhai saab, We should stand against TTP other wise they ruin us..

If it is a question for me , then the answer is NO.

If it is your conclusion, then unfortunately you have reached a wrong conclusion.

Conclusion: For me, there is no difference between TTP and the political parties in Karachi (PPP, MQM, ANP) who are involved in killing of innocent people. TTP is primarily in the Northern and Central Pakistan and uses religious extremism to justify its cause. The parties, there geographical area is different and they use political extremism to justify their cause. We should stand against all of these , otherwise, they will ruin us.

 

[rajakhanmd]

Yes, you are right that WHOLE of Pakistan should be made free of weapons.

Unfortunately, Pakistan could never be free of weapons till the time the FATA Area does not comes under Pakistani Law.
Also our Pushtoon and Baluch Brothers are requested to please stop being Proud of slogans like "Weapons are our Ornaments". We are in 21st Century and I don't want any of Pushtoon and Baluch Child carrying Guns on his shoulders instead of having books in his hands (just like our own child that I don't want any guns in hands of our children).

FATA cannot be de-weaponised easily therefore we should not take this initiative any where else in Pakistan? That is a good justification for NOT doing anything. Unfortunately, I do not see it happening as every party will keep pointing towards the other and eventually no one will take any initiative.

Pushtoons consider arms as a part of their culture and it will take more time to dismantle them. But, what is the excuse and justification for our political parties ? So, I should also get gun or AK 57 because Pathans bros have it in FATA? That means I am a part of the problem. At least I should have a moral courage to accept this.

 

[abduttawwab]

Request for Qadiani Friends :-


i think we cannot put this incident in same basket with bomb blasts in public markets,hotels,play grounds etc.

There are two parties involved in this incident :-

1 - 80% responsibility on TTP shoulders , due to their intolerant attitude towards those people who differ their ideology , religiously and socio-politically.
2 - 20% responsibility on Qadiani Jamat who have been constantly provoking such religious extremist by not following Pakistani law.

Of course much has been discussed about 1st group , about their inhuman philosophy and anti-state extremist views.
But i would like to shed some light on 2nd group which is posing themselves as the most pious , innocent and "ALLAH mian ki gaye" in this situation.

Pakistani Constitutions has clearly declared Qadianies as Non-Muslims and there is strict prohibition for them in using islamic terms and ideologies , propogating their religious views in pakistan , converting any muslim to qadianism etc.

Artcile 298(A-C) is quite clear about this matter.

Now i dun know why the hell these people do not follow Pakistani Law???

I mean why they build their worship places similar to mosques ?
Why they say similar words like azaan ?
Why they propogate their religious views ?
Why they ask people to convert into qadianism for salvation ?

I mean , discussion is not whether article 298(A-C) is right or wrong , whether its against human freedom of expression or not . Its Pakistani LAW , dats it....

Everyone knows that in Europe , we cannot speak against holocaust , cannot write or say anything in favor of nazism , may be its against our freedom of expression but its their law , we are living here , n now WE have to follow this law or abonden this land.

if we wana live here , we have to sacrifice few things , otherwise go to somewhere else where such lawa are not applicable.

I again say , Its not the matter that its a right or wrong law....

but when its LAW , you have to follow it...

Qadianis always provoke such extremist elements by violating pakistani law , You can find dozens of videos on youtube where they are shedding crocodiel tears that we have been stopped to write ****ma on our mosques , our mosques were destroyed , few of our students were detained due to religious preaching in univeristy ...Now
...
i mean ...why u do such stupid things ...when u know its AGAINST law , it can provoke other religious community....

Sher ki dum ko cherna bhi he aur jab wo kacha khane ke liye aage berhe to shor bhi machana he

......

let me give another example....


His highness Khalifa-tul-Muslimeen who use to reside under protection of queen elizebeth , Can he say something against Queen of england???

Anything bad which is against english law???

Can he???

even if its right according to islamic perspective..

like , Can hazrat mirza masroor ahmad say that Queen wud be in HELL as she does not follow islam ???

Can he say that Prince charless is hell awarded due to his chiristianity ???

Can he say that I am the true Khalifa for all humanity and Queen of england is a false queen ?

No certainly not , because its against ENglish law....

i mean these all are right sentences as per Qadiani believes , but as they have to follow english law so they avoid giving such statements...


Now unki jaan jaati he pakistan me law follow kerne me ????

Pakistan ka bhi aik law , apko pasand ho ya na ho , YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT baby .....u have no choice , we do not have choice either as per constitution is concerned...


Stop acting like Muslims and you would be saved , Bring your identity , do not hide behind islamic names , if u do it , its against our law , people would be provoked and some stupid fanatic may come up with such type of barbaroc ideas.

So khamakha me masoom bnne ki zaroorat nahi he
tum log khud kisi se kam nahi ho...
pakistan me beth ke dharalle se logo ko qadiani bana rahe ho :-) aur ummed kerte ho ke tumhe pholon ke haar pehnaye jainge :-)


Panga bhi lete ho , aur jab aage wala banda tumhari pitayi lagaye to rotey bhi ho...

agree bro!

Beside qadiyanis and the terrorist group, the responsibility lies on government's shoulder also.
Qadiyani must follow the Pakistani Law or leave Pakistan, similarly it's govt.s responsibility to impose and enforce the law. Despite the fact that there are certain restrictions in constitution on Qadiyani group and they are not allowed to preach their false cult, use Islamic terms (aazan, namaz, masjid etc) and call themselves Muslims, they are breaking these laws without any fear. Why govt. doesn't take any action, it's not understandable!

This is not the first event in the history of Pakistan in which common people are targeted in this way; thousands of Muslims have been martyred already in such incidents after the so-called 'war on terror' has started. The same way, govt. failed to protect Muslim ppl of Pakistan, she has failed to provide security to non-Muslims; so what's the difference?

I suggest that QADIYANI's should stop now using this incident as a tool to propagate their FALSE CULT, to show themselves oppressed & aggrieved, and to run compaign against Islam & Pakistan.
I request my fellow Muslims, please open your eyes and dont fall into the trap of enemy. Thanks!

 

[shaheedchoudry]

agree bro!

Beside qadiyanis and the terrorist group, the responsibility lies on government's shoulder also.
Qadiyani must follow the Pakistani Law or leave Pakistan, similarly it's govt.s responsibility to impose and enforce the law. Despite the fact that there are certain restrictions in constitution on Qadiyani group and they are not allowed to preach their false cult, use Islamic terms (aazan, namaz, masjid etc) and call themselves Muslims, they are breaking these laws without any fear. Why govt. doesn't take any action, it's not understandable!

This is not the first event in the history of Pakistan in which common people are targeted in this way; thousands of Muslims have been martyred already in such incidents after the so-called 'war on terror' has started. The same way, govt. failed to protect Muslim ppl of Pakistan, she has failed to provide security to non-Muslims; so what's the difference?

I suggest that QADIYANI's should stop now using this incident as a tool to propagate their FALSE CULT, to show themselves oppressed & aggrieved, and to run compaign against Islam & Pakistan.
I request my fellow Muslims, please open your eyes and dont fall into the trap of enemy. Thanks!

I guess you did not feel any pain for 100 peoples loss. Do you realize 100 people had wives, kids, mothers, brothers, sisters and loved ones. Can you condemn this massacre. You are rather condemning their faith and you are threatening them further. I believe your faith is exactly of those who did it.

 

[shaheedchoudry]

If it is a question for me , then the answer is NO.

Conclusion: For me, there is no difference between TTP and the political parties in Karachi (PPP, MQM, ANP) who are involved in killing of innocent people. TTP is primarily in the Northern and Central Pakistan and uses religious extremism to justify its cause. The parties, there geographical area is different and they use political extremism to justify their cause. We should stand against all of these , otherwise, they will ruin us.

Man o Man......let me unerstand your conclusion. You are comparing TTP with ppp,mqm,anp. Its a very careful and technical and hypocritical way of supporting TTP.
You can check my previous posts. You man not find a bigger opponent of mqm,ppp,anp than me. But when did any of these killed people in mosque and claimed responsibility? When did they claim responsibility for blowing up a school?

 

[pakistanstube]

Toba astaghfaar

 

[sadani]

 

[rajakhanmd]

Man o Man......let me unerstand your conclusion. You are comparing TTP with ppp,mqm,anp. Its a very careful and technical and hypocritical way of supporting TTP.
You can check my previous posts. You man not find a bigger opponent of mqm,ppp,anp than me. But when did any of these killed people in mosque and claimed responsibility? When did they claim responsibility for blowing up a school?

Careful, technical and hypocritical way of supporting TTP ? I can use the same argument against anyone who talks about TTP and ignores the target killings going on in Karachi. But Khair.

I do not mind if you or anyone supports PPP, MQM or ANP. And, my comments are not party specific. It is something that I really believe in that our political parties should be free of any militancy.

And you are right. There is an obvious difference between these parties and TTP. I should have chosen my words carefully.

Apart from this clarification, I completely stand by my opinion. Whether the bullet is coming from TTP guns or Political parties gun, innocent lives are at stake. And, therefore, we should be vigilant and honest enough to point out at all the sources of our problem and take some steps to control all of them, otherwise, people will keep dying.

 

[GeoG]

agree bro!

Beside qadiyanis and the terrorist group, the responsibility lies on government's shoulder also.
Qadiyani must follow the Pakistani Law or leave Pakistan, similarly it's govt.s responsibility to impose and enforce the law. Despite the fact that there are certain restrictions in constitution on Qadiyani group and they are not allowed to preach their false cult, use Islamic terms (aazan, namaz, masjid etc) and call themselves Muslims, they are breaking these laws without any fear. Why govt. doesn't take any action, it's not understandable!

This is not the first event in the history of Pakistan in which common people are targeted in this way; thousands of Muslims have been martyred already in such incidents after the so-called 'war on terror' has started. The same way, govt. failed to protect Muslim ppl of Pakistan, she has failed to provide security to non-Muslims; so what's the difference?

I suggest that QADIYANI's should stop now using this incident as a tool to propagate their FALSE CULT, to show themselves oppressed & aggrieved, and to run compaign against Islam & Pakistan.
I request my fellow Muslims, please open your eyes and dont fall into the trap of enemy. Thanks!

Brother, I admire your wisdom and salute your courage.
May God help us to see through these conspiracies and unveil the agenda of our enemies hidden within.

 

[GeoG]

I guess you did not feel any pain for 100 peoples loss. Do you realize 100 people had wives, kids, mothers, brothers, sisters and loved ones. Can you condemn this massacre. You are rather condemning their faith and you are threatening them further. I believe your faith is exactly of those who did it.

Losing a single innocent life is one too many but your anger expressed against Brother Abbduttawab is not justified as he has not praised the act of terrorism but just pointed out responsibilities of two sides, Govt to provide safety for Non Muslims and and Non Mulsims - Qadyanis in this instance to stop pretending to be Muslims.

 

[psycho1]

oh My Allah. Tuba, I really feel sorry for these innocet people. May Allah give us all hidyaat. ameen

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

Pakistan is for all.. Here all rights for minorities. As per Quaid-e-Azam statement, Minorities could pass their lives easily in Pakistan and they are free from their any Religious act/

 

[Jordal]

@ Sadani.
Just look at your own reasoning! How could any constitution decide the religion of a person. We are the same people who are screaming ourselves hoarse on the decision of the French parliament's law against hijab and on the campaign in Belgium against the construction of minarets on a mosque. If according to you they don't have this right , then how an earth the Pakistani assembly consisting of people of questionable characters ( Gen Zia published a white paper on the corruption of the same assembly members who passed this law against Ahmadis) can pass alaw prohibiting people from claiming to be Muslims? Is this the level of wisdom of our ummah? God have mercy on Muslims and rid them of their extremely corrupt and jahil leaders!!

 

[maliksum]

Just look at your own reasoning! How could any constitution decide the religion of a person. We are the same people who are screaming ourselves hoarse on the decision of the French parliament's law against hijab and on the campaign in Belgium against the construction of minarets on a mosque. If according to you they don't have this right , then how an earth the Pakistani assembly consisting of people of questionable characters ( Gen Zia published a white paper on the corruption of the same assembly members who passed this law against Ahmadis) can pass alaw prohibiting people from claiming to be Muslims? Is this the level of wisdom of our ummah? God have mercy on Muslims and rid them of their extremely corrupt and jahil leaders!!

Just look at your own reasoning!
So now qadiyanis consider Gen Zia a good character ?
Qadiyanis have always believed that God has only given them the wisdom and the whole Muslim ummah is jahil !!! It is not only in Pakistan but all over that qadiyanis are considered as Non- Muslims.
The barbaric killing of qadiyanis which has been widely condemned by all the religious and non-religious parties and leaders should not give qadiyanis the stick to start bashing the True Islamic Belief.

 

[bhattisaab]

what kind of "kafirs" are they, death is right on the door and they are reciting darood sharif and remembring name of allah swt. :-I

 

[ciitrong]

shame on us