After Explaining Arif Alvi There is no reason to MQM protest In Clifton..Should Protest Against PPP

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
can PTI explain why did it opposed the local government bill jointly by PPP/MQM if PTI advocates for it now and supported stance of sindhi separatists? MQM has tried all its efforts to make PPP give rights to the city but failed

Because both MQM and PPP are the reason why Karachi and Sindh is suffering today, local Bill is not What Karachi needs it is law and order, safety for people and this Cannot be done until you depoliticize police which both MQM and PPP do not want.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
وہ تو ٹھیک ہے لیکن کیا خان صاحب زہرہ آپا کے قتل کا بدلہ لینے کراچی نہیں جا رہے؟
یا پھر ان کے خون کا بھی سودا کر لیا ہے؟


This is ONLY reflective of your Zehneeat and no more.
 

210akash

Senator (1k+ posts)
وہ تو ٹھیک ہے لیکن کیا خان صاحب زہرہ آپا کے قتل کا بدلہ لینے کراچی نہیں جا رہے؟
یا پھر ان کے خون کا بھی سودا کر لیا ہے؟
Aur shahbaz shsreef kab ja rahe ha karachi zardari ko sarkoo per gheestne. :P
 

raamishasadraza_coolboy

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Of course free and fair elections are required, people have to be allowed to vote for there own representative, how can a party claim to represent people when the peoples rights have been taken away from them. After that we can discuss provinces, anyhow What difference Will provinces make when target killers and gangsters Will still rule them. Will law and order situation become better or would bhatta khori STOP.

What the people of Karachi need is law and order to previal that is the time of need, they want to feel safe for that they need good politicians Leading them. Once they feel safe Then we can speaks about provinces or devolution of power.

lol it seems u dont understand. if by that u mean that mqm goes, then the idea of division of sindh into smaller provinces will also be lost. nobody will ask abt the division of provinces again. ask the karachi ppl if they want karachi to be made into a single province or not, they dont neccesarily support and vote for mqm but all of them do want a seperate province. i dont understand why is it so hard to understand, this has been the demand of the ppl since mqm was created.mqm was created for this purpose, there was no bhatta khori or target killing then, did anybody make sindh into smaller provinces then. the demand was still there. the answer is no, as long as ppp exists in sindh this will remain a dream, thats why many mqm haters will also back mqm on the point of making new provinces.
 

raamishasadraza_coolboy

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Because both MQM and PPP are the reason why Karachi and Sindh is suffering today, local Bill is not What Karachi needs it is law and order, safety for people and this Cannot be done until you depoliticize police which both MQM and PPP do not want.

do u even live in karachi, local body elections are the neccessity of karachi. look at the state of karachi, it looks like a wasteland now. the karachi during mustafa kamal's era was much superior than the karachi of now. the police needs to be depoliticized which the ppp and mqm both dont want, but local elections mqm wants, ppp doesnt want local elections as well. So only when sindh will be broken down into smaller provinces will karachi become a better place, the grasp of ppp will decrease, development will also increase because seperate funds allocated to karachi.
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
do u even live in karachi, local body elections are the neccessity of karachi. look at the state of karachi, it looks like a wasteland now. the karachi during mustafa kamal's era was much superior than the karachi of now. the police needs to be depoliticized which the ppp and mqm both dont want, but local elections mqm wants, ppp doesnt want local elections as well. So only when sindh will be broken down into smaller provinces will karachi become a better place, the grasp of ppp will decrease, development will also increase because seperate funds allocated to karachi.

ایم کیو ایم نے مشرف صاحب کی اس پالیسی کی تائید کی تھی جسکے تحت انہوں نے پولیس بھرتی اور تربیت میں اصلاحات متعارف کروائی تھیں۔
متحدہ مخالف پولیس چیف نے ایک مرتبہ ٹی وی پر کھل کر کہا تھا کہ ابتدا میں متحدہ کے کچھ لوگوں نے کوشش کی کہ پولیس مین بھرتی ہوں، مگر مشرف کی پالیسی کی وجہ سے یہ ممکن نہ ہو سکا۔ چنانچہ مشرف دور میں جتنی دیر متحدہ حکومت میں رہی، اس دوران کراچی پولیس مین کوئی سیاسی بھرتی نہیں ہوئی۔
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
do u even live in karachi, local body elections are the neccessity of karachi. look at the state of karachi, it looks like a wasteland now. the karachi during mustafa kamal's era was much superior than the karachi of now. the police needs to be depoliticized which the ppp and mqm both dont want, but local elections mqm wants, ppp doesnt want local elections as well. So only when sindh will be broken down into smaller provinces will karachi become a better place, the grasp of ppp will decrease, development will also increase because seperate funds allocated to karachi.

does MQM want free and fair elections, or just like what they did during General elecetions
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
does MQM want free and fair elections, or just like what they did during General elecetions

آپ ضمنی الیکشن کی بات کیوں نہیں کرتے جہاں آپ لوگوں کی چیخ و پکار کے بعد فقط اور فقط کراچی شہر میں فوج کی نگرانی میں پولنگ کروائی گئی۔
اور حالت یہ تھی کہ کراچی کی 3 سیٹوں پر پی ٹی آئی کل ملا کر 10 ہزار ووٹ بھی نہ لے سکی اور متحدہ نے اسے 15 گنا زیادہ مارجن سے شکست دی۔

بہت سے صحافیوں نے ٹی وی پر آ کر برملا اظہار کیا کہ وہ بے شک غلطی پر تھے اور کراچی کی عوام بلاشبہ متحدہ کو اپنا نمائندہ سمجھتی ہے۔
 

raamishasadraza_coolboy

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
does MQM want free and fair elections, or just like what they did during General elecetions

is this the point here? mqm rigged elections becuase it knew its position was weak in karachi. but due to recent arif alvi's statement i dont think they will need to do anything, ppl will vote for them. ppl support mqm on local body elections and karachi as a seperate province. u asked me a question. ill ask u one, when local body elections were done in karachi was the situation of karachi as bad as it is now??? is breaking down sindh into smaller provinces not a reasonable demand?
 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
فرق یہ ہے کہ عارف علوی اور آپ لوگ فیس سیونگ کے لیے لولے لنگڑے بہانے بنا رہے ہیں۔

فرق یہ ہے کہ عارف علوی اب بھی لوکل باڈی کے نام پر انتظامی یونٹوں کی مخالفت کر رہا ہے، اور یہ مخالفت جاری رہے گی کیونکہ اپنے مفادات کی خاطر یہ مجبور ہیں کہ وہی رویہ دہرائیں جس کے تحت انہوں نے طالبان کو سال ہا سال تک سپورٹ کیا۔

فرق یہ ہے کہ عارف علوی یہ لوکل باڈیز کے بہانے بنا کر کبھی بھی سندھی وڈیروں کے ہاتھوں کراچی کی عوام کا استحصال نہیں روک سکتا ہے۔ کراچی کی عوام اتنی بے وقوف نہیں ہے جو عارف علوی کے ان گھٹیا ہتھکنڈوں کو سمجھ نہ سکے۔

حیدر عباس رضوی اور خوش بخت شجاعت باجی پر غلط الزام بازی آپکو کوئی فائدہ نہیں پہنچا سکے گی۔ ذیل کے امیج میں اسکی وجوہات پڑھ لیں۔




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Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
is this the point here? mqm rigged elections becuase it knew its position was weak in karachi. but due to recent arif alvi's statement i dont think they will need to do anything, ppl will vote for them. ppl support mqm on local body elections and karachi as a seperate province. u asked me a question. ill ask u one, when local body elections were done in karachi was the situation of karachi as bad as it is now??? is breaking down sindh into smaller provinces not a reasonable demand?

Just watch todays Karachi jalsa and it will tell you where people stand
 

raamishasadraza_coolboy

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Just watch todays Karachi jalsa and it will tell you where people stand

mqm nae badmashi ki hae, uska anjam bhugat rahi ha mqm. lekin administrative provinces ki baat pti bhi kerti ha isliye log saath haen, agar ailaan kerde ik no administrative provinces phr dekhna log kitne aenge. ik has played good tactics, he hasnt said anything bad abt mqm in his jalsa, and also had laghari with him that so that sindhis were also on his side.
 

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