Afghani Refuge in Pakistan are snake and we need to send them back ASAP.

First Strike

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
R u serious? Please read books other than syllabus ones. We were mercenaries for hire and Musharraf mentioned this in his book.
We should try to mediate Peace in Afghanistan.
BTW what is your opinion regarding Pakistani who are living outside Pakistan and settled as a refugees using forged documents?

Pakistanis living outside Pakistan don’t do bomb blast
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You disregard one important factor. These Afghans aren't just bitter or angry. These Afghans are driven by the belief that certain Pak territory belongs to their nation. You cannot reason with that. This isn't just frustration or suffering. The Afghans are disputing demarcated borders.
Their anger is more politically motivated and because of internal ethnic politics and of course out of frustration. We have to deal with it wisely and with brotherhood History, cultural and and economic realities, demographic of Pakistan have already fully answered to them. We do not need to discuss this futile topic with them.
Even a nationalist like Sardar Daud was ready to accept the reality (however now their acceptance matters nothing to Pakistan but needs some courage within their internal politics.
There's one easy answer for who put claim to pak areas on historical and ethnic grounds. First they need to divide Afghanistan into 5 regions and correct ' their own history' and only then they may talk to us.

IMO, Our politics and behavior has to be forward looking and not reactive.
First: most of afghan refugees will not go back however they have close family ties within Afghanistan. That's the reality if you see the demographics of Refugees
Second:, we cannot afford militancy or even a full blown political conflict in the integration phase of KP-tribal area..
Third: Tribal along the border have families and cultural/economic ties. That cannot ( and shouldn't )be totally cut off by a border or a fence.
Fourth: Afghanistan is economically dependent and integrated with Pakistan. Whatever happen, these relations will grow further as Afghanistan will progress.. India has no threat or even relevance in this respect. We should facilitate Kabul business to invest as partners beyond political ties..
Out mutual future is peace in the coming decades - Hopefully this war phase will be over within a decade.
 
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maximuswarrior

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Their anger is more politically motivated and because of internal ethnic politics and of course out of frustration. We have to deal with it wisely and with brotherhood History, cultural and and economic realities, demographic of Pakistan have already fully answered to them. We do not need to discuss this futile topic with them.
Even a nationalist like Sardar Daud was ready to accept the reality (however now their acceptance matters nothing to Pakistan but needs some courage within their internal politics.
There one easy answer who put claim to pak areas on historical and ethnic gounds. First they need to divide Afghanistan into 5 regions and correct ' their own history' and only then they may talk to us.

IMO, Our politics and behavior has to be forward looking and not reactive.
First: most of afghan refugees will not go back however they have close family ties with in Afghanistan. That's the reality if you see the demographics of Refugees
Second:, we cannot afford militancy or even a full blown political conflict in the integration phase of KP-tribal area..
Third: Tribal along the border have families and cultural/economic ties. That cannot ( and shouldn't )be totally cut off by a border or a fence.
Fourth: Afghanistan is economically dependent and integrated with Pakistan. Whatever happen, these relations will grow further as Afghanistan will progress.. India has no threat or even relevance in this respect. We should facilitate Kabul business to invest as partners beyond political ties..
Out mutual future is peace in the coming decades - Hopefully this war phase will be over within a decade.

There is absolutely no discussion regarding Pakistani land. The Afghans are free to live in their paranoid world.

We will help the Afghans with rebuilding their country, but that is all.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
arifkarim Baadshaah
مسلمان ساری دنیا میں کھجل خوار ہیں ایک وجہ یہ بھی ہے کیوں کے مسلمان سب سے پہلے پاکستانی، افغانی، عرب، ترک ایرانی ہیں

پاکستانی ایک قدم اور آگے صوبے یا صوبے کے کچھ اضلاع سے آگے نہیں بڑھ پاتے اور چلیں ہیں کھجل خواری دور کرنے​
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Afghani Refuge in Pakistan are snake and we need to send them back ASAP.

What ever Pakistan does for Afghanis they are snake and it is in their blood that is why their country is in destruction.

Pakistan is more important and Pakistan will live forever and proper forever Inshallah, however, We should avoid humbleness and throw all Afghani Refuge where they belong.
تمہارے جیسے سانپ ہر قوم میں موجود ہیں۔
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
arifkarim Baadshaah
مسلمان ساری دنیا میں کھجل خوار ہیں ایک وجہ یہ بھی ہے کیوں کے مسلمان سب سے پہلے پاکستانی، افغانی، عرب، ترک ایرانی ہیں

پاکستانی ایک قدم اور آگے صوبے یا صوبے کے کچھ اضلاع سے آگے نہیں بڑھ پاتے اور چلیں ہیں کھجل خواری دور کرنے​
اصل میں مذہب کی اس طرح کلاسفکیشن ہی غلط ہے۔ کیا آج کوئی بھی اندازہ لگاتا ہے کہ ہندو کتنے ترقی یافتہ ہیں؟ یا کسی اور مذہب کے لوگ؟ تمام اعداد و شمار ملک و قوم کے حساب سے ترتیب دئے جاتے ہیں۔
مسلمانوں کو بھی اپنا موازنہ ممالک کے حساب سے کرنا چاہیے نہ کہ مسلمان بمقابلہ کافر​
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
اصل میں مذہب کی اس طرح کلاسفکیشن ہی غلط ہے۔ کیا آج کوئی بھی اندازہ لگاتا ہے کہ ہندو کتنے ترقی یافتہ ہیں؟ یا کسی اور مذہب کے لوگ؟ تمام اعداد و شمار ملک و قوم کے حساب سے ترتیب دئے جاتے ہیں۔
مسلمانوں کو بھی اپنا موازنہ ممالک کے حساب سے کرنا چاہیے نہ کہ مسلمان بمقابلہ کافر​
مسلمان، مسلمان ممالک، امت مسلمہ. کان جیسے چاہے پکڑ لیں​
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

مسلمان، مسلمان ممالک، امت مسلمہ. کان جیسے چاہے پکڑ لیں​

نواصب کسی کے نہ ہوئے ، بنگالی ہے تو پاکستانی کا دشمن ، سعودی ہے تو دیگر کمی کمین ، افغانی ہے تو وہ سب کا دشمن ، انڈین ہے تو وہ ہندوں کا چمچہ
دوسری طرف مومنین ہمیشہ ساری دنیا کے مومنین کا درد رکھتے ہیں اور حقیقی معنی میں سرکار دوعالم کی اس حدیث پر پورا اترتے ہیں جس کے مطابق امت مسلم ایک جسم کے مانند ہے
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم

نواصب کسی کے نہ ہوئے ، بنگالی ہے تو پاکستانی کا دشمن ، سعودی ہے تو دیگر کمی کمین ، افغانی ہے تو وہ سب کا دشمن ، انڈین ہے تو وہ ہندوں کا چمچہ
دوسری طرف مومنین ہمیشہ ساری دنیا کے مومنین کا درد رکھتے ہیں اور حقیقی معنی میں سرکار دوعالم کی اس حدیث پر پورا اترتے ہیں جس کے مطابق امت مسلم ایک جسم کے مانند ہے
پاکستان میں صف اول کے مسلکی سپاہی اور عراق میں امریشیعہ اتحاد پیدائشی مومنین کے درد کا جیتا جاگتا ثبوت ہیں

آل نمرود عراق کی نا ہو سکی ہمایوں کے رافضی پیادے ستر میں محب پاکستان ہو گئے
 

Res1Pect

Minister (2k+ posts)
In many cities of Pakistan, these Afghani refugees were given big houses for free to live by people of Pakistan as a brotherhood gesture. But while returning to their country, these afghanis damaged these houses badly and left them in a shape that no one could live there.

They, literally, are the most thankless people on Earth.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
most of these Afghans are going to be anti Taliban type Afghans if they decide too leave. Let's be honest there is no room for them in Pakistan, I am not saying this through hate but being realistic.

most of them unfortunately won't have much money, what will they do?

Pakistan already has enough Afghan brothers inside Pakistan, allowing more of them in could be detrimental to society. Unless youballow them in and find a suitable area for them until things get better in Afghanistan.

IT all depends on whether there is peace in Afghanistan or not.
 

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