Lewanay Lawangin
MPA (400+ posts)
those 20 million choose to stay in india, u look urdu speaking, guess we have a different perspective on things
Achakzai demands new province for Afghan refugees
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nepali.nationalist
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dude are you an idiot ?
open immigration is not in love of different cultures. It is because those nations cannot pro-create enough to propogate their race. With the declining population the government cannot support the aging population, dying cities , dwindling tax revenues and hence a complete COLLAPSE of society.
Since Pakistan doesnt have this problem, they are ACTUALLY solving the issues of the world by offering their people. The world should be thankful !
open immigration is not in love of different cultures. It is because those nations cannot pro-create enough to propogate their race. With the declining population the government cannot support the aging population, dying cities , dwindling tax revenues and hence a complete COLLAPSE of society.
Since Pakistan doesnt have this problem, they are ACTUALLY solving the issues of the world by offering their people. The world should be thankful !
south asia
Banned
Ye bnda kbhi Pakistan ka sga nah ho sakta
shahzadnabeelpk
Citizen
Yeh khud kion nai dafa hota Afghanistan agr itna he pyar hy to??????
Tyrion Lannister
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
western countries allocate visa after proper channel, europe cannot give citizenship to a refugee , there is a difference between immigrant and refugee, u need some education
mubarik Shah
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is lieyh kay ghadaar e azam mian gan-j zinda hai... Allah mian gan-j ki jald rughsatee karaey zardari ka saath tau ein penguins ko kuchalna asaan ho ga.....
اس غدار اچکزئی نے اپنے صوبے کے لیے تو کچھ کیا نهیں اب افعانیوں کی بات کر رها اس لیے که افغانی چلے گے تو اس کو ووٹ کدھر سے ملے گے کیوں کارنامے جو بهت اچھے سرانجام دے رها هے اگر زیاده ھی افغانستان اور اسکی عوام کی محبت ھے تو افغانستان دفعه دور ھو جاۓ یهاں کیوں حکومت کو چمٹا ھوا ھے
battery low
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
لو جی نواں کٹا کھل گیا جے - بچپن میں ایک کہانی سنی تھی کہ کسی شخص نے ایک اونٹ پالا تھا بارش ہو رہی تھی وہ شخص خیمے میں تھا اس کو ترس آیا کے حیوان بارش میں بھیگ رہا اس نے اونٹ کو تھوڑا سا خیمے کے اندر کر لیا - اس کے بعد اونٹ آہستہ آہستہ خیمے کے اندر ہوتا چلا گیا اور ایک وقت آیا اس نے ترس کھانے والے مالک کو گردن سے پکڑ کر باہر پھینک دیا- اب ہماری حالت بھی یہی ہے-
Anonymous Paki
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
لو جی نواں کٹا کھل گیا جے - بچپن میں ایک کہانی سنی تھی کہ کسی شخص نے ایک اونٹ پالا تھا بارش ہو رہی تھی وہ شخص خیمے میں تھا اس کو ترس آیا کے حیوان بارش میں بھیگ رہا اس نے اونٹ کو تھوڑا سا خیمے کے اندر کر لیا - اس کے بعد اونٹ آہستہ آہستہ خیمے کے اندر ہوتا چلا گیا اور ایک وقت آیا اس نے ترس کھانے والے مالک کو گردن سے پکڑ کر باہر پھینک دیا- اب ہماری حالت بھی یہی ہے-
staray khaatir
Minister (2k+ posts)
Ever heard of "Geneva Convention "?go google it.
staray khaatir
Minister (2k+ posts)
lets not get into the technicalities of immigration,show me only one more country beside Pakistan who is deporting "refugees " after being there for 40 years.
As for as voting for Pakistan is concerned,it was only the people of Pukhtoonkhwa who were given a choice to choose between and Pakistan and India,and they choose to part of Pakistan.
staray khaatir
Minister (2k+ posts)
جناب وہ کونسا "کافر" ملک ہے پوری دنیا میں جس نے ۴۰ سال سے مھاجر لوگوں کو نکال دیا ہے؟صرف پچھلے سال جرمنی نے ۱۰ لاکھ لوگوں کو پناہ دی ہے۔
Tyrion Lannister
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
in case of state of war refugees are welcomed by many countries, the decision of nationlaity is based on population growth of the country and skillset of refugees, we cnt gv them nationality due to both these reasons
staray khaatir
Minister (2k+ posts)
I will have to disagree with you on this one as well.I wonder if you ever had a chance to have a good read of ECHR?
Liberal 000
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Afghans living in Pakistan are not refugees right now. Their country is stable and have democratic government, they must return back to support their country in war against terror and economically too to make it great again. If we Pakistanis can fight Taliban for our future generations why cannot they? Why they want to live the life of a beggar on UN stipend?
The Afghans I know are garatmand people not begarat like these refugees. If they are useless for their own country then what good they can do for us?
Pakistan does not offer its nationality to refugees and economic workers like our brothers Iran and Arab states. Our these Muslim brotherly nations even expel the refugees and economic workers after 50 years stay?
Personally I sympathies with them and want them to stay in Pakistan as they have built their life and businesses here but at the same time I have to think about my own country.
Pakistan is a multi ethnic state , the permanent stay of Afghan refugees will create ethnic tensions and demographic change. The Pathans living in Pakistan are in Indian Subcontinent for last 200 years and still some of them dream of joining Afghanistan. Believe me the Afghan refugees would always prefer Afghanistan in political matters over Pakistan even if we give them our nationality.
Look who want them to stay in Pakistan, Achkzai ,an ethnic nationalistic leader, his concern is not the plight of Afghan refugees, his only concern is to increase the population of like-minded people. For me peace of my country comes first as I and my children have to live here.
As Indian Muslims are concerned they voted for the slogan of Pakistan in 46 elections. Indeed Muslim league won almost all the Muslim seats in UP CP and in other minority provinces while ironically lost in Muslim majority province of Punjab. Later horse-trading within Punjab Assembly opened the doors for Muslim majority areas of Punjab to join Pakistan.
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staray khaatir
Minister (2k+ posts)
If that's your argument than we should be standing by Trump rather than criticising him,as he would be doing the right thing for his country.
Irani mullahs and Arab dictators are no the kind of example than you would like to follow.1.5 to 2 millions Afghan refugees can't change the demography of 200+ million population.it can't change the out come of elections as well.
We are setting a very bad example by expelling these poor refugees after they have made Pakistan their home for 3,4 generations.
Btw how you define "liberal"?
Liberal 000
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
They did not choose to stay in India, they were forced to stay in India when Pakistan abruptly halted the flow of immigrants without any prior notice in 1965
What does it has to do with my ethnicity?
Liberal 000
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am not arguing to expel them right now. Even if we have to have them here then their case must be presented by a mainstream national party instead of an ethnic politician and without creating new provinces we cannot afford to give them nationality.
It will certainly have an impact on the demographics of Balochistan where there is a very delicate balance b/t Pushtuns and Balochs and Baloch will contest it hence new ethnic tensions.
First we have to secure our boarder with Afghanistan before taking any step to grant Afghan refugees the nationality otherwise it will open new doors and within few years entire Afghanistan will get our nationality
I accept that I am not a true liberal and personally I think our world is still not ready to digest multiculturalism. Western liberals made a mistake to promote multiculturalism too early
First it robbed the third world of its brains + liberal minds hence curbed the rise of liberalism in our part of the world. Instead of fighting to liberalize our own societies our liberal minds migrate to the safe heavens of the west.
Secondly the rise of aliens in western nations creating fears among the local population and emboldening the local nationalistic and religious forces and even has heralded the collapse of liberalism in the west am afraid
I think first we need a victory of liberalism in all parts of the world before opting for the journey of multiculturalism.
Tyrion Lannister
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sir you can keep your readings to your self, I am aware enough that pakistan is already at the verge of population explosion and these afghans are not bright symbol of patriotism in favour of pakistan. Pakistanis cannot accept this, specially after afghan's anti pak movements. They want nationality, they have to earn it by showing respect otherwise they can go to hell
