Aapas Ki Baat
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Aapas Ki Baat - 9th January 2011 - President's Interview... Loaded with Contradictions.
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look at this so called well informed journalist , he do not know Kayani(29 Nov , 2007) was Army Chief when BB was Murdered(27 Dec, 2007) and he is saying Kayani was ISI chief at that time. These Pseudo journalist are ill informed by them self and they consider they will guide the nation?
InsafianPTI
Minister (2k+ posts)
rightly said zardari seems very comfortable per awaam 'khap rahee hai'.
Zordari sahab hosh key nakhun lo!
Zordari sahab hosh key nakhun lo!
Najam sethi ke borey din agaye
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[TD]These are difficult times for professional journalists in Pakistan. Eleven were killed last year in the line of duty. They were either caught in the crossfire of ethnic or extremist violence or targeted and eliminated by state and non-state groups for their political views. Saleem Shehzad, for example, was abducted, tortured and killed last year and a commission of inquiry is still floundering in murky waters. He had exposed the infiltration of the armed forces by elements affiliated with Al-Qaeda or the Taliban. Several journalists from Balochistan have been killed by non-state vigilantes sponsored by state agencies, others have fled to Europe or USA because they had sympathies with the nationalist cause in the province. Some from Karachi have taken refuge abroad because they were threatened by ethnic or sectarian groups or parties. Now an insidious campaign is afoot to target senior journalists who question the wisdom of the security establishment on a host of thorny issues. They are being labeled as "American-CIA agents". This is an incitement to violence against them in the highly charged anti-American environment in Pakistan today. Consider.If you say the military's notion of "strategic depth" in Afghanistan is misplaced, outdated or counter-productive, you are a CIA agent.If you say the military was either complicit or incompetent in the OBL-Abbottabad case, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the civilians should have control over the military as stipulated in the constitution, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the military shouldn't enter into peace deals with the Taliban that enable them to reorganize and seize Pakistani territory, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the drones have taken a welcome toll of extremist Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the military's annual defense budget, which amounts to nearly half of all tax revenues, should be scrutinized by parliament or the Auditor General of Pakistan, you are a CIA agent. If you say that the one and same resignation criterion should be applied to both Ambassador Husain Haqqani and DG-ISI Ahmed Shuja Pasha - the former is accused of trying to influence the American government to back up the civilian government of Pakistan in its attempt to establish civilian control over its army and the latter is accused of seeking the support of Arab regimes for the overthrow of the civilian regime ( both accusations come from one and the same individual) - you are a CIA agent.If you say we should construct a social welfare state in place of a national security state, you are a CIA agent.If you say that fundamental citizens rights enshrined in the constitution cannot be violated at the altar of a narrow definition of national security defined exclusively by the security state, you are a CIA agent.If you say that human rights violations in Balochistan carried out by the security agencies are as condemnable as the ethnic cleansing of Punjabi settlers by Baloch insurgents, you are a CIA agent.If you say that Pakistan's foreign policy should not be the exclusive domain of the military establishment, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the Pakistan military's conventional and nuclear weapons doctrine amounts to a crippling arms race with India rather than a minimal optimal defensive deterrence, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the ISI is an unaccountable state within a state, you are a CIA agent.If you say that belt-tightening measures to control budgetary deficits and inflation should apply to wasteful aspects of defense expenditures no less than to wasteful aspects of civilian government expenditures, you are a CIA agent. If you say that the Supreme Court should pull out Air Marshal Asghar Khan's ISI-Mehrangate 1991 case from cold storage and adjudge it along with the Memogate 2011 case, you are a CIA agent.The irony is that the Pakistan military remains the single largest recipient of American aid in the last sixty five years. The irony is that all military coups in Pakistan have drawn legal and political sustenance from America. The irony is that the Pakistani military has signed more defense pacts and agreements with America than all civilian governments to date. The irony is the Pakistan military has partnered America in Afghanistan in the 1980s, fought its war on terror and leased out Pakistani air bases and Pakistan air space corridors to America in the 2000s, and sent hundreds of officers for training and education to America in the last six decades. The greater irony is that all those liberal, progressive, anti-imperialist Pakistani citizens who have opposed US hegemony and protested American military interventions in the Third World all their lives are today branded as CIA agents by the very state security agencies and non state religious parties and jehadi groups who have taken American money and weapons and done America's bidding all their lives.[/TD]
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[TD]These are difficult times for professional journalists in Pakistan. Eleven were killed last year in the line of duty. They were either caught in the crossfire of ethnic or extremist violence or targeted and eliminated by state and non-state groups for their political views. Saleem Shehzad, for example, was abducted, tortured and killed last year and a commission of inquiry is still floundering in murky waters. He had exposed the infiltration of the armed forces by elements affiliated with Al-Qaeda or the Taliban. Several journalists from Balochistan have been killed by non-state vigilantes sponsored by state agencies, others have fled to Europe or USA because they had sympathies with the nationalist cause in the province. Some from Karachi have taken refuge abroad because they were threatened by ethnic or sectarian groups or parties. Now an insidious campaign is afoot to target senior journalists who question the wisdom of the security establishment on a host of thorny issues. They are being labeled as "American-CIA agents". This is an incitement to violence against them in the highly charged anti-American environment in Pakistan today. Consider.If you say the military's notion of "strategic depth" in Afghanistan is misplaced, outdated or counter-productive, you are a CIA agent.If you say the military was either complicit or incompetent in the OBL-Abbottabad case, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the civilians should have control over the military as stipulated in the constitution, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the military shouldn't enter into peace deals with the Taliban that enable them to reorganize and seize Pakistani territory, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the drones have taken a welcome toll of extremist Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the military's annual defense budget, which amounts to nearly half of all tax revenues, should be scrutinized by parliament or the Auditor General of Pakistan, you are a CIA agent. If you say that the one and same resignation criterion should be applied to both Ambassador Husain Haqqani and DG-ISI Ahmed Shuja Pasha - the former is accused of trying to influence the American government to back up the civilian government of Pakistan in its attempt to establish civilian control over its army and the latter is accused of seeking the support of Arab regimes for the overthrow of the civilian regime ( both accusations come from one and the same individual) - you are a CIA agent.If you say we should construct a social welfare state in place of a national security state, you are a CIA agent.If you say that fundamental citizens rights enshrined in the constitution cannot be violated at the altar of a narrow definition of national security defined exclusively by the security state, you are a CIA agent.If you say that human rights violations in Balochistan carried out by the security agencies are as condemnable as the ethnic cleansing of Punjabi settlers by Baloch insurgents, you are a CIA agent.If you say that Pakistan's foreign policy should not be the exclusive domain of the military establishment, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the Pakistan military's conventional and nuclear weapons doctrine amounts to a crippling arms race with India rather than a minimal optimal defensive deterrence, you are a CIA agent.If you say that the ISI is an unaccountable state within a state, you are a CIA agent.If you say that belt-tightening measures to control budgetary deficits and inflation should apply to wasteful aspects of defense expenditures no less than to wasteful aspects of civilian government expenditures, you are a CIA agent. If you say that the Supreme Court should pull out Air Marshal Asghar Khan's ISI-Mehrangate 1991 case from cold storage and adjudge it along with the Memogate 2011 case, you are a CIA agent.The irony is that the Pakistan military remains the single largest recipient of American aid in the last sixty five years. The irony is that all military coups in Pakistan have drawn legal and political sustenance from America. The irony is that the Pakistani military has signed more defense pacts and agreements with America than all civilian governments to date. The irony is the Pakistan military has partnered America in Afghanistan in the 1980s, fought its war on terror and leased out Pakistani air bases and Pakistan air space corridors to America in the 2000s, and sent hundreds of officers for training and education to America in the last six decades. The greater irony is that all those liberal, progressive, anti-imperialist Pakistani citizens who have opposed US hegemony and protested American military interventions in the Third World all their lives are today branded as CIA agents by the very state security agencies and non state religious parties and jehadi groups who have taken American money and weapons and done America's bidding all their lives.[/TD]
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LivePakistan
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Najam sethi ke borey din agaye
NAJAM SETHI has got free ride for sometime and is time for him to pay what the BAKWAS he saying in his program. True, anchors like him must hanged so that to prevent any other Hussain Haqqani. There is no doubt he is CIA agent and insulted Quaid-i-Azam. It was painful to hear his comments while his worth to Pakistanis is less than a DOG. Just imagine, what kind of conscience these people have.
NAJAM SETHI has got free ride for sometime and is time for him to pay what the BAKWAS he saying in his program. True, anchors like him must hanged so that to prevent any other Hussain Haqqani. There is no doubt he is CIA agent and insulted Quaid-i-Azam. It was painful to hear his comments while his worth to Pakistanis is less than a DOG. Just imagine, what kind of conscience these people have.
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is he trying to scare the people from asking for truth?
Strange for him to say that "Is say ziada government ka kiya nuksaan ho ga" Avaam ki baat to in nay naheen key?
Strange for him to say that "Is say ziada government ka kiya nuksaan ho ga" Avaam ki baat to in nay naheen key?
