A True Diagnosis of Current Sorry State of Affairs in Pakistan--Please do See the Complete Video

[faqira786]

BTW the thread is for the Muslims. Qadiyani youth is not addressed in the video.

This attitude show me that you did NOT watch and listen the video and how Ignorant are you?
I beleived You did NOT listen what Molana said about you?

Please listen carefully as you Molana (you posted the video) telling about your characteristic

 

[gazoomartian]

BTW the thread is for the Muslims. Qadiyani youth is not addressed in the video.

مدت ہوئی کہ میں نے فقیرا سے پوچھا تھا کہ آیا مرزا پر کوئی کتاب نازل ہوئی تھی یا ہماری قرآن ہی کی چوری کر رہے ہو - ایک دو آیات ہی لا کر دکھلا دو جو یا تو قرآن کے مثل ہو یا قرآن سےبہتر ہو -
فقیرا نے کبھی جواب ہی نہیں دیا - اور بیچارہ جواب دے بھی کیسے اسکو میں نے چت جو کر دیا
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[faqira786]

مدت ہوئی کہ میں نے فقیرا سے پوچھا تھا کہ آیا مرزا پر کوئی کتاب نازل ہوئی تھی یا ہماری قرآن ہی کی چوری کر رہے ہو - ایک دو آیات ہی لا کر دکھلا دو جو یا تو قرآن کے مثل ہو یا قرآن سےبہتر ہو -
فقیرا نے کبھی جواب ہی نہیں دیا - اور بیچارہ جواب دے بھی کیسے اسکو میں نے چت جو کر دیا
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Did you listen what Molana said about you in that clip, Please LISTEN What he said about U?​

 

[c4cheema]

I dont agree Dr Israr on this Khilafat thing, in my humble opinion 'Khilafat' is very misguiding term. Can someone explain to me that what you understand by Khilafat? an election/selection system or an administrative system? If it is election/selection system then it is impossible to implement these days, we dont have group of pure people like Sahaba Ikraams and we cannot find them because APP Rasool Allah(PBUH) selected those people. I think Khilafat is an excellent administrative system and best example is Hazrat Umar RA but people are confusing it with election/selection system.. We all will have to be very good muslims so that best of us can work for well being people. This all looks more fairy tail then a practical proposal.

Brother I am writing accroding to my knowledge, Please do not blame others for our own misguidance, May ALLAH show us right Path AMEEN.

It clear that Khilaf is Farz according to this Hadees.

Selecting Khalifa ....

With Abu-Bakr R.A, everybody gave him baiyah (muhajerren and Ansar). So that is out of question. With Omar R.A, it was Abu-Bakr R.A and the consensus of the sahaba and through mashwara if you would call it that they came choose him as a khalifah and ofcourse the baiyah was taken. That is out of question as well. Now with Usman R.A it was consul of 6 who choose him to be the Khalifa. So this is somewhat applicable and closer to our case and the present time. A consul of religious leaders (from different states) can sit and choose a leader based on mutual consent and mashwara. Of course this is my opinion and Allah knows best.

First of all, there are two scenarios that need to be considered here. 1) when the khilafah is already established and a khaleefah dies/steps down/becomes physically impaired etc. and the ummah has to choose the next khaleefah. 2) when there is no khilafah and the first khaleefah has to be appointed (inshaAllah, a reality that is not too far away)

As for the case where the khilafah is already established, we see from the Sunnah and Ijma as-Sahaba that the process of choosing the next khaleefah in the event that the last one dies etc. is through the bayah. this was true in the case of Abu Bakr (RA) where the Sahabah gave bayah in the saqeefah (hall) of banu saida. similarly in the case of Umar (RA) when the ahl hal o aqd gave bayah after the death of Abu Bakr (RA). and it is more evident in the case of Usman (RA) because even though the selection process had been completed after fajr, Shuaib (RA) (the interim amir appointed by Umar (RA) during his last moments) lead the prayers in zuhr. it was after zuhr that the bayah was given to Usman (RA) and then he (RA) lead the asr prayers. and similarly for Ali (RA).

yes, means and styles were different each time, but the process of transferring authority was the same i.e. bayah. when the khilafah is established in the near future the khulafah would strive to perfect these means and styles because that is what islam teaches us; stick firmly to the method (bayah) and keep on improving the means and styles (electoral college, direct nomination etc.)

 

[c4cheema]

مدت ہوئی کہ میں نے فقیرا سے پوچھا تھا کہ آیا مرزا پر کوئی کتاب نازل ہوئی تھی یا ہماری قرآن ہی کی چوری کر رہے ہو - ایک دو آیات ہی لا کر دکھلا دو جو یا تو قرآن کے مثل ہو یا قرآن سےبہتر ہو -
فقیرا نے کبھی جواب ہی نہیں دیا - اور بیچارہ جواب دے بھی کیسے اسکو میں نے چت جو کر دیا
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Gazooo g app ki kia baat ha ..... Bai barti umar ka sath app ka damag be taiz kaam ker raha haaa :D
Main to faqeeray ko waqia naik faqeer samajta tha .... choti umar .... bawaqofi :(
Mujay aik list bana ka rakhni hooo gi in Marzaiooon ki , ya to asteen ka samp hain Pehlay GAQ ko khalifa kehtya hain , pher ESA (NaouzbiALLAH) or pher NABI (ASTAGFIRALLAH).

 

[Wadaich]

This attitude show me that you did NOT watch and listen the video and how Ignorant are you?
I beleived You did NOT listen what Molana said about you?

Please listen carefully as you Molana (you posted the video) telling about your characteristic

That is the only reason this video has been posted. To see our face in the mirror that what we are doing and what we should have been doing? So that we can rectify our character.

It is none of the business of the Non-Muslims like You to poke their nose in the affairs of the Muslims. Please feel yourself as stinking intruder on this thread and be away.

 

[Wadaich]

Gazooo g app ki kia baat ha ..... Bai barti umar ka sath app ka damag be taiz kaam ker raha haaa :D
Main to faqeeray ko waqia naik faqeer samajta tha .... choti umar .... bawaqofi :(
Mujay aik list bana ka rakhni hooo gi in Mazaiooon ki , ya to asteen ka samp hain Pehlay GAQ ko khalifa kehtya hain , pher ESA (NaouzbiALLAH) or pher NABI (ASTAGFIRALLAH).

Please visit the following thread and mark all the outcome from Mirza Dajjal's ******* hole. And do a favor to the newcomers by listing the name of hissing snakes.

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?49671-The-Qadiani-Ahmadiyya-Lahore-Tragedy-By-Truth-Unvield-(why-is-it-closed)&highlight=lahore+ahmadi

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?50300-Question-For-Qadiyanis&highlight=lahore+ahmadi

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

***---------------Indian and Western propaganda ---------***

Did indian ask you to watch their movies? its your fault not indian and western

if its that easy, why you do propadanda change indian and western?

i think you need a class about proxy war between two nations/ countries. Pakistan and india have proxy war is active. these all activities are part of proxy war.

 

[faqira786]

That is the only reason this video has been posted. To see our face in the mirror that what we are doing and what we should have been doing? So that we can rectify our character.

It is none of the business of the Non-Muslims like You to poke their nose in the affairs of the Muslims. Please feel yourself as stinking intruder on this thread and be away.

You did not listen who Molana said, What he said to people of PAKISTAN

"MUNAFIQ" Everyone is AGREED on him and you AGREED as well

Dont angry on me and Listen Molna speech carefully again and CORRECT yourself if interested and dont come backup until you correct yosuself,

These forums are time wasting and time killing and fun activity, ask your molana if you dont agree with me

 

[Wadaich]

You did not listen who Molana said, What he said to people of PAKISTAN

"MUNAFIQ" Everyone is AGREED on him and you AGREED as well

Dont angry on me and Listen Molna speech carefully again and CORRECT yourself if interested and dont come backup until you correct yosuself,

These forums are time wasting and time killing and fun activity, ask your molana if you dont agree with me

So what is a non-muslim qadiyani's business here?

 

[sngilani]

It is sooo shocking. Senior generation has totally failed to tell their kids what is ''PAKISTAN''.

 

[janbazali]

یا اللہ ہمیں تجدید عہد کے قابل بنا دے. ہمیں موقع دے . ہم میں صادق اور امین لوگوں کا اضافہ فرما. ہم میں امانت دار سردار پیدا کر. ہم میں بہت سوں کو تیرے دین سے محبت ہے، لیکن ہم نے تیرے دین کو سمجھنے میں بہت دیر کردی. ہماری خطا تیرے رحمت سے بڑھ کر نہیں ہے.

یا رحیم، رحم

ameen........