A Tribute to Mard e Momin Zia Ul Haq
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hmkhan
Senator (1k+ posts)
اور بہت سے دھیمی یا درمیانی گتھی سے چلنے والے مانوادھیکاریوں کو "کٹر پنتھی" جسے کہ ڈاکٹر شکتی کپور
atensari
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
انقلابیوں کو نکیل ڈالی
hmkhan
Senator (1k+ posts)
نہیں انصاری صاحب آج تم سے کوئی بحث نہیں
آج تو تمہیں
عید مبارک
چاہے تم
رمضان کا چاند نظر آتے ہی کسی انتہائی،خفیہ اورناقابل تحریر بیماریوں کا شکارہوئے اوربوجوہ ایک روزہ بھی نہ رکھ سکے
چاہے تم
روزہ تو نہ رکھ سکے مگر افطاری کرنے والوں کا رزاکارانہ اور فی سبیل اللہ ساتھ دے کر افطاری سے پورا،پورا انصاف کرتے رہے
اس کے باوجود بھی تم کو
عیدمبارک
dangerous tears
Senator (1k+ posts)
چودھری صاحب طبیعت تو ٹھیک ہے جماعت اسلامی کو ضیا سے اختلاف
قیامت کی نشانیاں ہیں یہ سب
Citizen X
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Only good thing Zia ever did was putting Ahmedis in their place as fradulent Muslims. Zia died a much better and painless death than your fake prophet, at least he did not pass away crapping his guts out in his shalwar. So who had a more "ibratnak" mout. This the similar kind of shameful death Allah swt has given to many enemies of Islam.
Its like you cannot gain Pakistani citizenship while also pledging allegiance to India, same way you cannot call your self Muslim while claiming and believing a ***** liar from Qaidian was a prophet. You can either be Muslim or Qaidiani, you can't be both.
Aisha (R.A) reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not abuse the dead, for they have reached what they put forward.”
In another narration, the Prophet (PBUH) said, “When your companion dies, then leave him alone without speaking badly about him.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1329
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari
Abusing here refers to verbal abuse, using harsh words against a person.
Most scholars say that this is for the believers, i.e. don’t abuse the dead believers. But anyhow, taking thehukm (commandment) of the Prophet (SAW), one must be careful as to not talk bad about any dead person, especially the believers.
This also implies not judging them, i.e. not deciding where they ended up. Because. We. Don’t. Know.
No matter how pious you knew the person to be, you are not allowed to say (even about a martyr) that he/she definitely went to Jannah, or in the case of a wicked one, that he/she definitely went to Hell.
Four things.
1. Its prohibited by prophet (PBUH) according this hadith.
2. Its back biting becasue that dead person is not present to defend him/her-self.
3. Its not good for any Muslim to use bad language or abuse some one.
4. Only Allah has the right to Judge some one.
In another narration, the Prophet (PBUH) said, “When your companion dies, then leave him alone without speaking badly about him.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1329
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari
Abusing here refers to verbal abuse, using harsh words against a person.
Most scholars say that this is for the believers, i.e. don’t abuse the dead believers. But anyhow, taking thehukm (commandment) of the Prophet (SAW), one must be careful as to not talk bad about any dead person, especially the believers.
This also implies not judging them, i.e. not deciding where they ended up. Because. We. Don’t. Know.
No matter how pious you knew the person to be, you are not allowed to say (even about a martyr) that he/she definitely went to Jannah, or in the case of a wicked one, that he/she definitely went to Hell.
Four things.
1. Its prohibited by prophet (PBUH) according this hadith.
2. Its back biting becasue that dead person is not present to defend him/her-self.
3. Its not good for any Muslim to use bad language or abuse some one.
4. Only Allah has the right to Judge some one.
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Citizen X
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Sorry don't have time to waste listening to your mirzai indoctrination by your fake Khalifa.
And why are comments always disabled on videos posted by Mirzais, can't accept the truth and criticism?
Also I saw that other video, whose title by the way was totally misleading " How I came to Islam " Instead of how I became a Mirzai. Can you explain what is the letter business with you people, his whole half hour story and concluding message was "chitti zuhroor likho" Whats this chiti business with Mirzais ?
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We write Letter to Hazur Ayadullah Taala Benaslil Aziz for requesting prayers.
Aap k dil mein bohat zayada bughzz hai jo k heraankunn nai. Hazrat Umar RA bhee aaey Hazur Pbuh ki gardan mubarak tunn se juda kerne per phir one of the greatest Aashiq e Rasool bun gaey and a great Caliph too.
Per Makka ka sub se zayada Intelligent and educated man zindagi bhar eemaan nai laaya aor He Pbuh ki bohat khoahish thee k eemaam le aaey. He Pbuh used to pray alot aswell but Alass it did not happen.
Jameeat k aik naami garaami 65+ aged k political leader hein jin ki cv mein 3 Ahmadi Musalmaanoun ka khoon hai. Unkay aik qareebi dost thay Chaudhary Mohammad Ali sahib jinki nehayat negative raaey thee regarding Jamaat jub 9th class mein unka bohat bura taaruf kisi ne keraya Jamaat ka samjheeay jo koshish cult website ker rai aaj kal. Phir dunya ne dekha k uss shakhs ne apne aik ahmadi professor ka kirdaar uthna bethna islaami sheaar namazein perhna dekha mutaasir huay phir mutaleya kiya aor ahmadi hogaey. Phir dunya ne dekha k 50 saal se zaaid arsa wo kesay Jamaat k wafadaar, khilafat k shedaee sipahi bun k rahay aor behtareen khidmat ki deen ki rah mein. Allah k fazal se.
Issi tarah Pakistan k mashoor tareen Qaari hein jo k Hazrat Maseeh e Mouood AS k shadeed mukhalif thay per un mein tehqeeq ki khoobi thee. Pakistan k choti k madrassoun mein wo gaey Ulema se milne aor He AS ki zaat, daawa, tadrees k aetrazaat ilzamaat jaan ne samajhne daleeleil seekhne jamaat k khilaaf uss shakhs k khilaaf. Phir saara ilm paa k 83 books bhee perh daaleen Hazrat Maseeh e Mouood AS ki aor alhamdoulillah samajh gaey sub aor Ahmadi Musalmaan hogaey Bait ker k. Naam iss liye nai le raha k Hayaat hein aor dont want k unki jaan bhee le li jaey Jaali Ishq e Rasool k naam pe.
@Citizen X
Amazing similarities between 72 Sects of Jews and 72 Sects of Muslims. Happened as Prophesized by Prophet Mohammad Pbuh.
Have a look.
History Repeats itself.
https://youtu.be/JSQpUD-jj2g
Amazing similarities between 72 Sects of Jews and 72 Sects of Muslims. Happened as Prophesized by Prophet Mohammad Pbuh.
Have a look.
History Repeats itself.
https://youtu.be/JSQpUD-jj2g
Citizen X
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And what about the 11 or 12 mirzai sects ? Which sect is the jannati among you people ?
Agar dunya ki kisi b group k 1 crore mein se chand sou loug alag hojaein tou iss se koi faraq nai perhta.
Koi Mazhab ya Aqeeda 100 % logoun ko farishta bananay ki na guarantee deta hai na he ker sakta hai.
Jub se dunya bani hai logoun ka dastoor hai jo unka insaani haq k eemaan le aana eemaan choarh dena.
Baaghee aor Daaghee bhee peda ho jaatay hein.
Jub Khilafatt ka Nizaam hai so uss ki matehatti chalay gee jesa k hazur Pbuh ne Saanwee khilafatt ka zikar 1500 pehlay ker diya tha. Aor ye b kaha tha khilafat alla minhaaj un Nabooa.
Agar kuch darjunn logoun out of crores apni badshahat chahtay hein alag dukaan khol li, ya agar wo jinko khilaaf e shareeat harkaat pe islami iqdaar ki khilaaf warzi pe jamaat se akhtaaj ka samna hua aor remorse na honay ya remorse ki shartein na poori kerne pe maafi nai hui alag hogaey alag group khol liya tou farq nai perhta. Na he iska matlub ye hai k naya firqa khul gaya hai.
Jamaat e Ahmadiyya firqa wo hai jiskay saath 99.999 % ahmadi hein jo k khilafat e ahmadiyya k peechay mutahhid hein. Yei wo jamaat hai jisko 99.999 % ahmadi muslims maali jehaad ka hissa bun k chanda detay hein jis se dunya bhar mein Jamaat e Ahmadiyya Falahee aor Deeni kaam ler rai hai alhamdoulillah aor Aman Pasand Haqeeqi Islam ka jhanda poori dunya mein leh ra rai hai aor Saeed fitrat loug Allah se hidayat paa k ya in depth mutaaleya ker k laakhoun ki taadaad mein ahmadiat haqeeqi islam qabool ker rahay hein.
Jamaat e Ahmadiyya woi hai jis ne Quran ka lehla tarjuma kiya dunya mein english mein jo 1400 saal na hua. Yei wo jamaat hai jis ne 95 zubaanoun mein Quran k tarjummay ker diye hein aaj tak aor Siha e Satta k sub se zayada zubaanoun mein tarajim. Islay ilawa thousands of free dispensaries, clinics, hospitals, schools and colleges, natural disasters help worlwide, humdreds of water wells in deprived areas. Internatonal peace conferences and European Parliament, Uk, Denmark, Canada, New zealand etc Parliaments mein Khalifa of Islam k Adresses and unkay tawassad se jinkay hum Aashiq Mohammad e Arabi Pbuh k itshaadaat, sunnat, Quran ki aayaat goonjti hein. Allah k fazal aor toufeeq se. Dunya k 15 mulkoun mein Jaameya Ahmadiyya jahan se Murabbeean, Mubashareen aor Moallameen Hazzarroun ki taadaad mein 7,4 aor 3 saal ki degrees ker k Dunya bhar mein haqeeqi islam ki taleem pohancha rahay hein Alhamdoulillah. Aor 99 % ahmadi musalmaan apne kirdaar ki taaqat se Saaed Fitrat logoun ko apni taraf khench rahay hein Islam ki taaleem k mutaabiq apne kirdaar ko islaami saanchay mein dhaal k. Jo hamari duty thee hai aor rahay gee. Aor yei hai wo jamaat jis ne pichlay 20 saal mein 10,000 se zaayed Masaajid taameer ki hein dunya k 70 se zayada mumaalik mein. Yei wo jamaat hai jiskay khilaaf Hakumatoun ki kherha hona perha hai chahay pakistan ki hakumat ho ya indonesia algeria malaysia singapore ki aor mazhab k roop mein chuppay wehshee darinday jo live let live pe believe nai kertay 127 saal se persecute ker rahay hein per Allah k fazal se Jamaat alhamdoulillah pehlay se berh k berhti jarai hai.
Lekin aik tola hota hai jo sirf chaskay leta hai. Leta rahay. Aik tola tha jo Hazur Pbuh aor Ummahatul Momineen RA pe bhee ganday ghaleez ilzaamaat laganay se nai choankta tha aor eemaan nai laaya yahan tk k dunya se khalla ker gaey. Wo bundnaseeb louh thay aor aaj bhee wesay he budnaseeb hein dunya mein jo k bilkul baayes e herat nai hai.
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جو مارشل لاء بد ذات خان کو وزیر اعظم بنا ئے گا وہ حلال مارشل لاء ہوگا ۔
Citizen X
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Yaar ek to itne chotay se sawal per itna lamba lecture likh diya aur jawab fir bi nai diya. idhar udhar ki aaien baien shaein. Hum falan hain hum dhimkhan hum yeh hain hum woh hain. Asay to hazron charities aur degar mazahib walay hain jo tum mirzaiyon se ziyada Allah ko makhloq ki khidmat ler rahe hai. Is sab idhar udhar ki baaton se mere sawal ka kya lene dena.
Yeh behaas mein 1000 daffa sun chuka hun mirzaiyon se ke Islam mein 71 firkha hai, aur un sub mein se jannati sirf hum hi hain aur tum sub kaafir ho aur dozakh mein jaalo ge. Directly to kabi asa nahi kahan ( for obvious political correct reasons), lekin matlab yehi hota hai. And they are very smug about it. And they talk as if they know something we kaafirs or as you call them "ghair ahmedi's" dont.
Mera sawal simple sa hai. Jab Mirzai apnay app to jannati firka samaj te hai. To is jannati firkay ka kounsa firka aasli jannati hai. Kyun ke asa to ho hi nai sakta ke sare k sare mirzai firkay jannati houn.
kyun ke agar kal mein mirzai ban jao to jannati wale firqay ka mirzai banu. Kiya faida mein Islam chord ke mirzai ban gaya aur pata chala ji mein to non jannati firkay wala mirzai tha, to faida ? Pata chala mein Haqiqi firkay ka mirzai ban gaya aur jannati Lahori group chala gaya ?
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Citizen X
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Yeah maybe I'm dumb as a door nail, but that still doesn't my simple question which can be answered in not more than a few words. So which firka of the Mirzais is the "chosen" one, the one which will enter Paradise. Can't be too hard to answer, specially since you Mirzais know out of the 71 sects of Muslims which one is going to Paradise then you surely must know which one sect of the Mirzais will go to Paradise.
Since you have given a statement that if you would leave islam to enter ahmadiat. Which is a bizarre assumption than i put the onus on you now to put forward verses of Quran and Siha e Satta Ahadees defining Muslim. Than we will talk about your Weham / Hallucination.
Citizen X
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Is that what you say when someone comes to Mirzais and says I want to take the bayt, no wonder ( contrary to Mirzai deception, who claim the numbers in 100,000s and even millions ) you people only get a handful of Mirzai converts. Only 1000 converts in a period of 10 years in a country like UK which is now your defacto capital, well 500 to be honest, because are 500 of them left Mirzaiyat
So once again, if I wanted to become a Mirzai which of the jannati firka of Mirzais and its corresponding Khalifa would I have to give the bayt to ?
P.S : You guys need to proselytize better if you wan't to change those dismal numbers of converts, even the cult of spaghetti monster has better numbers than this.
Don't see that happening with you mirzais, when on the other hand mainstream Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West and maybe even the world. Hmmmm...wonder why that is.
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