A suggestion to MQM opponents

[PakPatriot1]

Dear Brothers and Sisters (If you agree I am your Pakistani brother):

For the last few days, especially during the last rain disaster in Karachi, I am noticing a huge amount of hatred and opposition towards MQM and it's supporters. I value your concerns (right or wrong-the time will decide) over Karachi city govt.'s ability to handle the situation.
So, my question is that how to improve this situation?
The local body elections are knocking our doors and hopefully they will not be postponed but if they are, then I don't expect any one of you to do any protest against the stop of this democratic process in Karachi. Because you all know that if the elections are held in Karachi then again these MQM crooks (for you) will come on power again.
But if we have the elections then I request you to take the following actions to improve the situation:

1- Ask PMLN to demand the govt. to hold the election all over the Pakistan under tight security. The govt. will listen to PMLN as they are the biggest opposition party.
2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.
3- Bring Karachi, all the allegations and accusations with or without proofs against MQM in front of the voters and let them decide.
4- Tell Karachi people, the developments in your city so far from Mustafa Kamal were the results of malfunctioning, bad designs and corruption, so they are wastage. We will demolish everything and we will bring Karachi back to its pre Mustafa era. Karachi people are very sensible; they will certainly listen to you and will give attentions to your points.
5- Under these ideal circumstances you will have no problem to win the election in Karachi and you will have your own mayor.
6- The very first thing you could do then is to hang all the crooks of MQM.
7- As per your election promise, take your full 4 years of tenure to demolish every construction done by MQM, and then at the end, go to the people again for the next elections with the promise to reconstruction of all the developments with a new designs and plans and without the corruption. So you will again win the election.
8- In this way, you will have full eight years of govt. in Karachi.
9- Once you deliver in Karachi, you will have Karachi in your hands forever.

What do you think? Will you go on this route? It is a very nice and simple plan to eliminate MQM for ever.
If you are not agreed, then please give me another workable plan.
Thanks

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Pakpatriot:

Thank you for sharing the vision of your Pir of London Sharif. Since MQM is an equal partner( the third bigger Party of Pakistan ,heheheh)in the Government of Zardari,It is quite formal for MQM to demand the holding of local elections in Pakistan, and especially sindh. If Zardari for some reason , doesn't agree with MQM demand, they should quit the Government and with the help of 12 Million Karachiites, start a civil disobedience against Zardari. Why bring PMLN in the middle when the MQM which is a part of the Government can demand this alone ?

With or without the local elections, the crooks of any party( especially MQM ) should be brought to justice without any delay.
After the fair local election,whoever becomes the mayor of Karachi,should start an investigation for any corruption during the last few years of MQM and its gang.

Other than MQM, no party in the Paskistan likes to be called a regional party and have to have a strong hold on any city or town.

It would have been better if you had suggested to quit the Bhutta Khori,Extortion and killing instead. Than, I would really appreciated your few lines of sanity and suggestion.

 

[shaheedchoudry]

Dear Brothers and Sisters (If you agree I am your Pakistani brother):

For the last few days, especially during the last rain disaster in Karachi, I am noticing a huge amount of hatred and opposition towards MQM and it's supporters. I value your concerns (right or wrong-the time will decide) over Karachi city govt.'s ability to handle the situation.
So, my question is that how to improve this situation?
The local body elections are knocking our doors and hopefully they will not be postponed but if they are, then I don't expect any one of you to do any protest against the stop of this democratic process in Karachi. Because you all know that if the elections are held in Karachi then again these MQM crooks (for you) will come on power again.
But if we have the elections then I request you to take the following actions to improve the situation:

1- Ask PMLN to demand the govt. to hold the election all over the Pakistan under tight security. The govt. will listen to PMLN as they are the biggest opposition party.
2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.
3- Bring Karachi, all the allegations and accusations with or without proofs against MQM in front of the voters and let them decide.
4- Tell Karachi people, the developments in your city so far from Mustafa Kamal were the results of malfunctioning, bad designs and corruption, so they are wastage. We will demolish everything and we will bring Karachi back to its pre Mustafa era. Karachi people are very sensible; they will certainly listen to you and will give attentions to your points.
5- Under these ideal circumstances you will have no problem to win the election in Karachi and you will have your own mayor.
6- The very first thing you could do then is to hang all the crooks of MQM.
7- As per your election promise, take your full 4 years of tenure to demolish every construction done by MQM, and then at the end, go to the people again for the next elections with the promise to reconstruction of all the developments with a new designs and plans and without the corruption. So you will again win the election.
8- In this way, you will have full eight years of govt. in Karachi.
9- Once you deliver in Karachi, you will have Karachi in your hands forever.

What do you think? Will you go on this route? It is a very nice and simple plan to eliminate MQM for ever.
If you are not agreed, then please give me another workable plan.
Thanks

2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.???????????
It should be'
2- No party worker except MQM gunmen should be allowed within one km radius of every polling station.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Pakpatriot:

Thank you for sharing the vision of your Pir of London Sharif. Since MQM is an equal partner( the third bigger Party of Pakistan ,heheheh)in the Government of Zardari,It is quite formal for MQM to demand the holding of local elections in Pakistan, and especially sindh. If Zardari for some reason , doesn't agree with MQM demand, they should quit the Government and with the help of 12 Million Karachiites, start a civil disobedience against Zardari. Why bring PMLN in the middle when the MQM which is a part of the Government can demand this alone ?

With or without the local elections, the crooks of any party( especially MQM ) should be brought to justice without any delay.
After the fair local election,whoever becomes the mayor of Karachi,should start an investigation for any corruption during the last few years of MQM and its gang.

Other than MQM, no party in the Paskistan likes to be called a regional party and have to have a strong hold on any city or town.

It would have been better if you had suggested to quit the Bhutta Khori,Extortion and killing instead. Than, I would really appreciated your few lines of sanity and suggestion.

What you are talikng is a run away tectic meri Jaan.
PMLN is also part in the govt. in Punjab. When they impose security in Punjab and demand the same for rest of the Pakistan, obviously it will put pressure on govt. of Sindh also.

I already have told that bring all your allegations (like the Bhutta Khori,Extortion and killing )in front of the people. Election time is the best time to eloborate all these things. You will at least agree with me on this as you always claim a lover of democracy. OR your democracy Starts from Landi Kotal and ends at North of Hyderabad. In Karachi and Hyderabd you only want army operation, right?

Why don't you say you can not face the reality. You know better than me what will be your "HASHER" in Karachi when you will tell the people that you are going to demolish every construction done by Mustafa.

 

[PakPatriot1]

2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.???????????
It should be'
2- No party worker except MQM gunmen should be allowed within one km radius of every polling station.

Ok, accepted. Even all the MQM workers and leadership with or without guns will be exiled out of the province of Sindh. I still accept your challenge.

Bahadur mard bano Shaeed Bhai. Accept my challenge NOW.
Thanks

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Pakpatriot:

Are your MQM is part of the present Government or not ? If the answer is yes, then it should ask the Zardari for the holding of the election. And if the answer is no, what you guys are doing in Islamabad holding ministries ? Question is simple, Answer it if you like. If you don't answer, I know what you thinking .

 

[syed_nd]

kion apnay dushman banay hoo bhai tammam tar ghunda power or dhahli kay bawajood mk bohat kam aksaryatb say nazim bana tha or ab tum 1 km siasi worker wali baat say to

 

[PakPatriot1]

Pakpatriot:

Are your MQM is part of the present Government or not ? If the answer is yes, then it should ask the Zardari for the holding of the election. And if the answer is no, what you guys are doing in Islamabad holding ministries ? Question is simple, Answer it if you like. If you don't answer, I know what you thinking .

Don't twist the topic. As usual Hanky Panky. Ok MQM will leave the govt. if there is no election in Karachi. Happy?
Now give me the answer if elections happen, will you take part in it as per my suggestion? Can you tell the people that all the developments done by corrupt MQM Nazim are wastage and are very dangerous for the citizens and we will demolish everything and we will hang all MQM people in front of Mazar - e - Qaid, please give us a vote?
Are you really a Mard or choorian bhijwaooN tum Ko?

 

[shaheedchoudry]

2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.???????????
It should be'
2- No party worker except MQM gunmen should be allowed within one km radius of every polling station.

Ok, accepted. Even all the MQM workers and leadership with or without guns will be exiled out of the province of Sindh. I still accept your challenge.

Bahadur mard bano Shaeed Bhai. Accept my challenge NOW.
Thanks

I THINK MQM CAN'T WIN IF THERE WAS AN IDEAL SITUATION. I MEAN NO GUNMEN AT POLLING STATIONS. I ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE BUT ITS HYPOTHITICAL SITUATION. NOT APPLICABLE. ASK YOUR "CONSCIENCE", DOES MQM MAKE USE OF FORCE WHEN THEY COLLECT "DONATIONS". SAME IS THE SITUATION WITH ELECTIONS.

 

[abdulhaseeb23]

Dear Brothers and Sisters (If you agree I am your Pakistani brother):

For the last few days, especially during the last rain disaster in Karachi, I am noticing a huge amount of hatred and opposition towards MQM and it's supporters. I value your concerns (right or wrong-the time will decide) over Karachi city govt.'s ability to handle the situation.
So, my question is that how to improve this situation?
The local body elections are knocking our doors and hopefully they will not be postponed but if they are, then I don't expect any one of you to do any protest against the stop of this democratic process in Karachi. Because you all know that if the elections are held in Karachi then again these MQM crooks (for you) will come on power again.
But if we have the elections then I request you to take the following actions to improve the situation:

1- Ask PMLN to demand the govt. to hold the election all over the Pakistan under tight security. The govt. will listen to PMLN as they are the biggest opposition party.
2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.
3- Bring Karachi, all the allegations and accusations with or without proofs against MQM in front of the voters and let them decide.
4- Tell Karachi people, the developments in your city so far from Mustafa Kamal were the results of malfunctioning, bad designs and corruption, so they are wastage. We will demolish everything and we will bring Karachi back to its pre Mustafa era. Karachi people are very sensible; they will certainly listen to you and will give attentions to your points.
5- Under these ideal circumstances you will have no problem to win the election in Karachi and you will have your own mayor.
6- The very first thing you could do then is to hang all the crooks of MQM.
7- As per your election promise, take your full 4 years of tenure to demolish every construction done by MQM, and then at the end, go to the people again for the next elections with the promise to reconstruction of all the developments with a new designs and plans and without the corruption. So you will again win the election.
8- In this way, you will have full eight years of govt. in Karachi.
9- Once you deliver in Karachi, you will have Karachi in your hands forever.

What do you think? Will you go on this route? It is a very nice and simple plan to eliminate MQM for ever.
If you are not agreed, then please give me another workable plan.
Thanks

mere bhai app ki baat sahi hai aur gaur karne laiq hai,, yar mqm ke workers aur logon sai kisi ki koi dusmani nahi hai,, dushmani aus gunda gardi sai hai joo mqm ke bull per hoti hai,, dehkoo humme nafrat bhi kufr sai kerni hai kaafir sai nahi ,,, agar woh kufr chor dai tou phir tou woh hum sab muslims ka bhai ban jata hai,,, mqm ko sab se phele apni gunda gardi khatam karni hogi,, q ke mqm middle class logon ki party hai aur sab parhe likhe log hai bus ain ki yeh achai aun ki dosri burai ke peche chup jati hai yeh masla hai agar yeh chezen khatam ho jai tou kon hai joo ain ki mukhlifat karee gaa,,,,, rahi baat app ne kaha ke pmln demand kare election ke liye tou mere bhai mein app ko mijority logon ka bata dou ke logon ko pmln bhi pasand nahi hai lekin masla yeh hai ke jab pmln ki koi burai ka post aata hai tou sab aus ko condemn kerte hai koi favor nahi karta lekin jab mqm ki baat kerta hai tou app sab favor kerne aajate hoo,,, jab tak hum sab galat kamoo ko galat nahi kahen gai tub tak mera nahi khayal hai ke yeh masla hoo ga,, han aik party hai jis ko log defend kerne aate hain that is Imran Khan ki threek - e- insaaf lekin hum sab jante hain ke aun ki tadadd kitni hai aus se koi farq naahi parta humme unn ki dekha dehki mein kisi aur party ko favor nahi kerna chahiye ,,, tab yeh masla hal hosakta hai

 

[ek_junoon]

HAHAHAHHAA NEVER ENDING DEBATE......

 

[PakPatriot1]

2- No party worker should be allowed within one km radius of every poling station.???????????
It should be'
2- No party worker except MQM gunmen should be allowed within one km radius of every polling station.

Ok, accepted. Even all the MQM workers and leadership with or without guns will be exiled out of the province of Sindh. I still accept your challenge.

Bahadur mard bano Shaeed Bhai. Accept my challenge NOW.
Thanks

I THINK MQM CAN'T WIN IF THERE WAS AN IDEAL SITUATION. I MEAN NO GUNMEN AT POLLING STATIONS. I ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE BUT ITS HYPOTHITICAL SITUATION. NOT APPLICABLE. ASK YOUR "CONSCIENCE", DOES MQM MAKE USE OF FORCE WHEN THEY COLLECT "DONATIONS". SAME IS THE SITUATION WITH ELECTIONS.

Choudhary Sahib:
I think you never been to Karachi especially in elections days. You are just believe on suni sunnai and propaganda. Since MQM is on the field since 1987, Karachi people have been celeberating elections like a festival. The hype towards MQM always become so intense that no one can imagine. Only 10, 12 years of kids buy MQM flags from pocket money and put it on their Cycles. They become little workers of MQM by themselves. This scene can be observed in all over Karachi from posh areas of Defence and clifton to the common areas of New Karachi and Orangi Town and Lalu Khet.
Do you know how many votes were casted to MQM in the last election? 25 lakhs. If I accept your objection of voting on gunpoint then just do a math brother:

How many gunmen you need to force these 25 lakh peole to cast their votes on gun point?
If you take the ratio of 1: 5 then still MQM has 5 lakh gunmen workers who are willing to lift the guns and risking their lives. How about those workers who are not the gunmen? HOw many will be those then? Can you imagine.
Is this not the proof of MQM's popularity?

I know many friends from Karachi, who work abroad and they plan their vacations at the time of elections so that they can vote to MQM. I am also one of those.

I don't understand how it is possible that you bring the people to the polling staion on gunpoint,that's ok uptil now, but when they are casting the vote, they are always alone. A person who comes under the threat, how come he/she will cast the vote in gunmen's favor?

Karachi is not a village my dear, it is a city. People will never vote to those who are their enemies.

Yes, you can say that these people are stupid as they always vote to these crooks. That's your right.

 

[PakPatriot1]

mere bhai app ki baat sahi hai aur gaur karne laiq hai,, yar mqm ke workers aur logon sai kisi ki koi dusmani nahi hai,, dushmani aus gunda gardi sai hai joo mqm ke bull per hoti hai,, dehkoo humme nafrat bhi kufr sai kerni hai kaafir sai nahi ,,, agar woh kufr chor dai tou phir tou woh hum sab muslims ka bhai ban jata hai,,, mqm ko sab se phele apni gunda gardi khatam karni hogi,, q ke mqm middle class logon ki party hai aur sab parhe likhe log hai bus ain ki yeh achai aun ki dosri burai ke peche chup jati hai yeh masla hai agar yeh chezen khatam ho jai tou kon hai joo ain ki mukhlifat karee gaa,,,,, rahi baat app ne kaha ke pmln demand kare election ke liye tou mere bhai mein app ko mijority logon ka bata dou ke logon ko pmln bhi pasand nahi hai lekin masla yeh hai ke jab pmln ki koi burai ka post aata hai tou sab aus ko condemn kerte hai koi favor nahi karta lekin jab mqm ki baat kerta hai tou app sab favor kerne aajate hoo,,, jab tak hum sab galat kamoo ko galat nahi kahen gai tub tak mera nahi khayal hai ke yeh masla hoo ga,, han aik party hai jis ko log defend kerne aate hain that is Imran Khan ki threek - e- insaaf lekin hum sab jante hain ke aun ki tadadd kitni hai aus se koi farq naahi parta humme unn ki dekha dehki mein kisi aur party ko favor nahi kerna chahiye ,,, tab yeh masla hal hosakta hai

Thanks haseeb:

At leaset you have a Zarf to accept the reality.

Just read my reply to Mr. Shaheed about the Gunpoint voting. You will find the answer of your Gunda Gardi ke ilzaam ka.
I am still not convinced, you people always make a huge hue and cry on every forum, on every channel, on every news paper about MQM's Ghunda Gardi, but still people of Karachi vote these ghundeys. Can you explain me why?
Don't tell me that you also from Karachi and you know what happens in Karachi on the day of election. I already have answeresd to Mr.Shaheed on this. Just read that.

I admit about 10-15 % rigging is always there, but is this not the case in every city of Pakistan?

Even If you take these 15 % rigged votes out,will it make any difference to the winning of MQM in Karachi?

How about the rural areas under the control of Jaagirdaars? Do you know the % of rigging in those areas?

 

[abdulhaseeb23]

Thanks haseeb:

At leaset you have a Zarf to accept the reality.

Just read my reply to Mr. Shaheed about the Gunpoint voting. You will find the answer of your Gunda Gardi ke ilzaam ka.
I am still not convinced, you people always make a huge hue and cry on every forum, on every channel, on every news paper about MQM's Ghunda Gardi, but still people of Karachi vote these ghundeys. Can you explain me why?
Don't tell me that you also from Karachi and you know what happens in Karachi on the day of election. I already have answeresd to Mr.Shaheed on this. Just read that.

I admit about 10-15 % rigging is always there, but is this not the case in every city of Pakistan?

Even If you take these 15 % rigged votes out,will it make any difference to the winning of MQM in Karachi?

How about the rural areas under the control of Jaagirdaars? Do you know the % of rigging in those areas?

mere bhai mein app ki baat se sehmat hoon jagirdar ko kon bura nahi kehta app rigging ki baat kerte hoo jahan tak meri knowledge hain jog log jagirdar ke under mein hain woh tou bechare vote bhi shayad nahi dete unn ke vote tou phele sai gai hoe hote hain,, mein yahi keh raha hoon badmashi agar khatam kerdai mqm aur phir jeetey tou maza bhi ayee yar mein ne kaha hai pichle post mein ke mqm ke workers sai nafrat nahi hai aur ki badmashi sai nafrat hai dost,,,, agar mqm itni popular hai tou badmashi chor dai aakhir karachi ke log jis mein aur aap bhi shamil hain sab jante hain uun ki badmashi ke baree mein,, aur mein tou khud aus ka shikar bhi raha hoon aur kesa shikar jante hoon meri dukan sai 600 rs bhata le kar gai hain ramzan mein fitree ke naam per aur sirf mujh se nahi bohaton sai,,, aur kitne aese log hain jin ki qurbani ki khaal loot ke lai gai yar gun point per meri aankhon ke samne yeh kisi ki suni hoi baat nahi hai dost yeh mera khud ka experience hai,,,,, abb app mujh ko batao kiya app ais cheez kooo condemn karo gai ya nahi,,, haan kam karte hain ais mein koi shaq nahi jis tareeqe sai ramzan mein yeh trafic control kerte hain mein ne khud apni aankhon sai dehka hai jab yeh log itne hi khayal kerte hain tou apne logon sai phir badmashi q mere bhai mera yeh sawal hai agar itni hi popular hai tou badmashi ki zaroorat kiya aakhir sab sai bari takat tou mohabbat hai phir yeh badmashi q use kerte hain

 

[PakPatriot1]

Thanks haseeb:

At leaset you have a Zarf to accept the reality.

Just read my reply to Mr. Shaheed about the Gunpoint voting. You will find the answer of your Gunda Gardi ke ilzaam ka.
I am still not convinced, you people always make a huge hue and cry on every forum, on every channel, on every news paper about MQM's Ghunda Gardi, but still people of Karachi vote these ghundeys. Can you explain me why?
Don't tell me that you also from Karachi and you know what happens in Karachi on the day of election. I already have answeresd to Mr.Shaheed on this. Just read that.

I admit about 10-15 % rigging is always there, but is this not the case in every city of Pakistan?

Even If you take these 15 % rigged votes out,will it make any difference to the winning of MQM in Karachi?

How about the rural areas under the control of Jaagirdaars? Do you know the % of rigging in those areas?

mere bhai mein app ki baat se sehmat hoon jagirdar ko kon bura nahi kehta app rigging ki baat kerte hoo jahan tak meri knowledge hain jog log jagirdar ke under mein hain woh tou bechare vote bhi shayad nahi dete unn ke vote tou phele sai gai hoe hote hain,, mein yahi keh raha hoon badmashi agar khatam kerdai mqm aur phir jeetey tou maza bhi ayee yar mein ne kaha hai pichle post mein ke mqm ke workers sai nafrat nahi hai aur ki badmashi sai nafrat hai dost,,,, agar mqm itni popular hai tou badmashi chor dai aakhir karachi ke log jis mein aur aap bhi shamil hain sab jante hain uun ki badmashi ke baree mein,, aur mein tou khud aus ka shikar bhi raha hoon aur kesa shikar jante hoon meri dukan sai 600 rs bhata le kar gai hain ramzan mein fitree ke naam per aur sirf mujh se nahi bohaton sai,,, aur kitne aese log hain jin ki qurbani ki khaal loot ke lai gai yar gun point per meri aankhon ke samne yeh kisi ki suni hoi baat nahi hai dost yeh mera khud ka experience hai,,,,, abb app mujh ko batao kiya app ais cheez kooo condemn karo gai ya nahi,,, haan kam karte hain ais mein koi shaq nahi jis tareeqe sai ramzan mein yeh trafic control kerte hain mein ne khud apni aankhon sai dehka hai jab yeh log itne hi khayal kerte hain tou apne logon sai phir badmashi q mere bhai mera yeh sawal hai agar itni hi popular hai tou badmashi ki zaroorat kiya aakhir sab sai bari takat tou mohabbat hai phir yeh badmashi q use kerte hain

If say MQM workers are not involved in these type of activities then I will be a biggest Jhoota. I admit (as I admit 10-15% rigging) it happens in a very low level of workers. But you know how many people like these have been out of MQM so far? More than 10 thousands. I am not taking any side of these bad people at all, but also I want you to consider three very inportant points:

1- Karachi is a very big city of about 1 crore and 75 lakh people. It has variety of people living here, good and bad like any other big city in the world. I live in New york, every day they have many crimes here, and the mayor here is from republicans. But no one ever blames to the mayor or his party on these crimes even though the police is under the mayor?. Can you put all the Lahore crimes on PMLN's basket?
2- My own house was robbed by three decoits.One of those was talking to my mother in urdu and saying that we are from MQM and we need money to run the party.While they were doing this on the gorund floor, my wife from the first floor called CPLC and because my home is very closed to the police station, they approached there right away and some how they managed to grab these criminals. After the investigation, it came out that the one who was talking to my mother was a urdu speaking, one was from Rahim Yaar Khan and the third one was an Afghan. None of them belong to MQM. If I do any crime in the name of MQM and run away and never caught, then obviously victim will blame MQM.
3- Why MQM needs to do any Bhatta Khori? They have workers all over the world. If they want the money they can get it very easily from there rather to go to their voters for Bhatta. How much they can get from Bhatta or Khal from their own people? As you said few hundreds? Are they stupid that leaving an ocean for a glass of water? They can not afford to loose their voters just for few hundreds.

But, still I agreed, there are some people at the very lower level who are involved in these kinds of activities. MQM should check them regularly.

 

[farazkhii]

Karachi mein sab ne Mustafa Kamal ko he vote daina hai, chahay woh punjabhi ho ya pathan.
Mustafa Kamal Zindabad.

 

[abdulhaseeb23]

If say MQM workers are not involved in these type of activities then I will be a biggest Jhoota. I admit (as I admit 10-15% rigging) it happens in a very low level of workers. But you know how many people like these have been out of MQM so far? More than 10 thousands. I am not taking any side of these bad people at all, but also I want you to consider three very inportant points:

1- Karachi is a very big city of about 1 crore and 75 lakh people. It has variety of people living here, good and bad like any other big city in the world. I live in New york, every day they have many crimes here, and the mayor here is from republicans. But no one ever blames to the mayor or his party on these crimes even though the police is under the mayor?. Can you put all the Lahore crimes on PMLN's basket?
2- My own house was robbed by three decoits.One of those was talking to my mother in urdu and saying that we are from MQM and we need money to run the party.While they were doing this on the gorund floor, my wife from the first floor called CPLC and because my home is very closed to the police station, they approached there right away and some how they managed to grab these criminals. After the investigation, it came out that the one who was talking to my mother was a urdu speaking, one was from Rahim Yaar Khan and the third one was an Afghan. None of them belong to MQM. If I do any crime in the name of MQM and run away and never caught, then obviously victim will blame MQM.
3- Why MQM needs to do any Bhatta Khori? They have workers all over the world. If they want the money they can get it very easily from there rather to go to their voters for Bhatta. How much they can get from Bhatta or Khal from their own people? As you said few hundreds? Are they stupid that leaving an ocean for a glass of water? They can not afford to loose their voters just for few hundreds.

But, still I agreed, there are some people at the very lower level who are involved in these kinds of activities. MQM should check them regularly.

PakPatriot1

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i agree with you brother and it is the responsibility of MQM to check these,, but i am not agreed on one point from you that they are 10~15%,, i think they are more then 50%,, otherwise we don't have to take other opinion negative,, you are not involved in this and i am also,,, but we have to condemn all of them either they are from mqm or not

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Thanks haseeb:


If say MQM workers are not involved in these type of activities then I will be a biggest Jhoota. I admit (as I admit 10-15% rigging) it happens in a very low level of workers. But you know how many people like these have been out of MQM so far? More than 10 thousands. I am not taking any side of these bad people at all, but also I want you to consider three very inportant points:

1- Karachi is a very big city of about 1 crore and 75 lakh people. It has variety of people living here, good and bad like any other big city in the world. I live in New york, every day they have many crimes here, and the mayor here is from republicans. But no one ever blames to the mayor or his party on these crimes even though the police is under the mayor?. Can you put all the Lahore crimes on PMLN's basket?
2- My own house was robbed by three decoits.One of those was talking to my mother in urdu and saying that we are from MQM and we need money to run the party.While they were doing this on the gorund floor, my wife from the first floor called CPLC and because my home is very closed to the police station, they approached there right away and some how they managed to grab these criminals. After the investigation, it came out that the one who was talking to my mother was a urdu speaking, one was from Rahim Yaar Khan and the third one was an Afghan. None of them belong to MQM. If I do any crime in the name of MQM and run away and never caught, then obviously victim will blame MQM.
3- Why MQM needs to do any Bhatta Khori? They have workers all over the world. If they want the money they can get it very easily from there rather to go to their voters for Bhatta. How much they can get from Bhatta or Khal from their own people? As you said few hundreds? Are they stupid that leaving an ocean for a glass of water? They can not afford to loose their voters just for few hundreds.

But, still I agreed, there are some people at the very lower level who are involved in these kinds of activities. MQM should check them regularly.[/quote]


Interesting admission.The question is why those criminal always like MQM ? I never seen any party excluded ( 10 thousands as you admit, the number are much larger) their workers in massive numbers after finding them criminal.Ny has a republican mayor, however criminals who are caught everday were not excluded from Republican party.So, don't say that the republican were not blamed. They are not blamed bacause these criminals do not have republican party memebership.Mqm is quite different. They thrives on these murderers and they need them to keep other parties in check in Karachi.MQM's hallmark is Bund bori deadbodies, extortion and Bhutta khori and Gunda girdi.The big Gunda of them all sitting in London directing those criminals.And he is the leader of MQM.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Yaar Zaidi:
Tum mujhe private message ke saath apna address bhejo, mujhe tumhein ChooriyaN bhijwani hein.
Abey Aqal ke andhe, jab criminals are in the party,you blame the party, jab party in criminals ko nikal de then still you blame the party.
I don't understand what should MQM do to stisfy your soul.
I gave you a nice solution this morning to eliminate MQM forever, you are not considering it at all because of your inner fear of definite defeat in the election.
For sure you need chooriyaN.

10 criminals are excluded is not a big number for a party whose normal workers are in millions.

 

[syed_nd]

yes choudry i agree with pak patriot as a citizenof khi mqm have a big vote bank in khi but at a same time on some seats they do ghunda gardee too and who dnt do ghundagardee in pakistan i mean to say politicle parties for example in recent elections they hvnt won that na 250 khus bakht shujat seat but with rigging and often its happen in khi that the winner candidate of mqm won by number of votes which wasnt even the number of register voters but more than the voters the other thing they always claim their selfs as a middle class but they kill like thousand of middle class mohajirs punjabis pathan and sindhis i dnt know y and getting people votes is not a standard u see like people of punjabi voted a large no of votes several time to nawaz sharif what that means to ppp what that means all the members here who they support mqm defend them like they r angels im a karachvi but with with passsage of time i support different politicle parties mqm included but my conclusion is that all are same like ppp pmln pti jamatis and others i dnt blame the parties who they never been a part of federal goverment like pti jamatis like these but mqm was in federal gov several time they did noting about their basic agenda like bihario ki wapsi kota system and always remain in federal goverments they always put hatered in the mind of khi middle class about punjabi waderas but when time comes altaf married a punjabi waderas daughter (she is not a balooch like most of people think) altaf never thaught about noor jahan of liaqat abad or or khair un nisa of orangi town but married a punjabi wadera daughter and all the mqm memebers here i always enjoy them on these pages becoz i know taht they and all the pk people they will never understand lets enjoy then putting a new post every day