A new leader.......

naeem08

Voter (50+ posts)
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i didnt wanted to take the name of the person or party who deserves to be the ruling party but i will have to , owing to the mal conditions prevailing in pakistan and the conditions are becoming even worser and worser.because i know that who says himself that he deserves a post is not entitled to that post. But the conditions here enforce me to at least introduce this man to you.
Hafiz akif saeed , ameer e tanzeem e islami , is the most favourable person our nation needs . It must be evident on all of you that nawaz sharif , zardari , altaf they are all one and the same thing . They never go beyond a limit against one another bcz they feel that they will not be able to enjoy corruption when their turn will come . They just pay theirown games and think of people of pakistan as they are animals , they think throwing of bread infront of us like dogs will satisfy our hunger and they will continue to do what they want.
They dont know this nation is a decendent of salhud din ayubi , some of them have emans and are lovers of khalid bin waleed , umer and abu bakr (r.a). They will not satisfy on,,,, roti ,kapra, makan ,,,, they need honour they need dignity , even though if they have to throw these politicians into depths of river ravi.
i was talking of hafiz akif saeed . I will give you some properties of this man , you compare it with your worthy political leaders and decide yourself.
1. Allah knows how much eeman one has in his heart but some displays of eeman can be seen . You listen to the lectures of quran given by him.
2. This man has an inherited love with quran that has come via his father dr israr ahmad.
3. He claims to be a leader but does not believe on this sort of western democracy in which one prostitute and one alim have the same value of their votes.
4. He has deep view of what is happening all around the world , he keeps an eye on zionists jews and plots that have been made against muslim ummah .
5. He has leadershipqualities ,
6 . He has close relations with influential persons in afghanistan and its for sure that our relations with afghanistan will improve .
7. He is well aware of media war that is going around all over the world.
8. He wants to lay the basis of our economic system on the foundations of quran and sunnah .
9. He has done m. A in islamiat .
10. He has been running tanzeemm e islami quite successflly and even more better than it was a few years ago.
11. He is very righteous i want to narrate an incident of his righteousness. Once he came in a hurry and called for the meeting of shura . When members of shura came they thought there must be some emergency , he said that the handle of the car in which he was travelling was broken incidently from him and will ou give me permission to buy a new handle . Handle did not cost more than 40 or 50 rs. Now you compare your beloved politicians .
12.only one problem is there . He is not a land lord and do not like corruption so if he comes , either he will remain or all other politicians and beurocrats will make an alliance against him . Thats why the tanzeem has a philosphy of changing the whole system and then establishing the rule of allah and his rasool (saw).
Surely tanzeeme islami should rule this country , and iam sure jamat e islami , tahreeke islami will be with them once the moment comes inshalah.

 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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i didnt wanted to take the name of the person or party who deserves to be the ruling party but i will have to , owing to the mal conditions prevailing in pakistan and the conditions are becoming even worser and worser.because i know that who says himself that he deserves a post is not entitled to that post. But the conditions here enforce me to at least introduce this man to you.
Hafiz akif saeed , ameer e tanzeem e islami , is the most favourable person our nation needs . It must be evident on all of you that nawaz sharif , zardari , altaf they are all one and the same thing . They never go beyond a limit against one another bcz they feel that they will not be able to enjoy corruption when their turn will come . They just pay theirown games and think of people of pakistan as they are animals , they think throwing of bread infront of us like dogs will satisfy our hunger and they will continue to do what they want.
They dont know this nation is a decendent of salhud din ayubi , some of them have emans and are lovers of khalid bin waleed , umer and abu bakr (r.a). They will not satisfy on,,,, roti ,kapra, makan ,,,, they need honour they need dignity , even though if they have to throw these politicians into depths of river ravi.
i was talking of hafiz akif saeed . I will give you some properties of this man , you compare it with your worthy political leaders and decide yourself.
1. Allah knows how much eeman one has in his heart but some displays of eeman can be seen . You listen to the lectures of quran given by him.
2. This man has an inherited love with quran that has come via his father dr israr ahmad.
3. He claims to be a leader but does not believe on this sort of western democracy in which one prostitute and one alim have the same value of their votes.
4. He has deep view of what is happening all around the world , he keeps an eye on zionists jews and plots that have been made against muslim ummah .
5. He has leadershipqualities ,
6 . He has close relations with influential persons in afghanistan and its for sure that our relations with afghanistan will improve .
7. He is well aware of media war that is going around all over the world.
8. He wants to lay the basis of our economic system on the foundations of quran and sunnah .
9. He has done m. A in islamiat .
10. He has been running tanzeemm e islami quite successflly and even more better than it was a few years ago.
11. He is very righteous i want to narrate an incident of his righteousness. Once he came in a hurry and called for the meeting of shura . When members of shura came they thought there must be some emergency , he said that the handle of the car in which he was travelling was broken incidently from him and will ou give me permission to buy a new handle . Handle did not cost more than 40 or 50 rs. Now you compare your beloved politicians .
12.only one problem is there . He is not a land lord and do not like corruption so if he comes , either he will remain or all other politicians and beurocrats will make an alliance against him . Thats why the tanzeem has a philosphy of changing the whole system and then establishing the rule of allah and his rasool (saw).
Surely tanzeeme islami should rule this country , and iam sure jamat e islami , tahreeke islami will be with them once the moment comes inshalah.


YES we in Canada watched him yesterday and today and we feel that he is just as good as Dr Israr in tafseer and speaking habits. Verily Allah does not leave the ummat unattended.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Please have a good understanding of Dr. Israr's recommendations.........

Please have a good understanding of Dr. Israr's recommendations about "Trabiat and Jamaat". Unless we act upon his recommendations it is very difficult to have something substantial. We as nation have reached near the role of the Jews, who ridiculed the prophets trying to bring them on real path. We have not ridiculed the prophets, but majority of us ridicules the teachings of islam in daily life.
 

MHSIAL

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Surely tanzeeme islami should rule this country , and iam sure jamat e islami , tahreeke islami will be with them once the moment comes inshalah.
 

naeem08

Voter (50+ posts)
i did not wanted to say this line that tanzeem should rule but we will have to hurriedly find a leader like hazrat umer , who can guide us , do our tazkiya , and make our country stand infront of kufr with a stance.
 

sarbakaf

Siasat.pk - Blogger
I would say its a wishful thinking but problems faces is

hafiz saab represents a particular sect.
Does hafiz saab has enough exposure to rule a city ? rather to elect him for ruling a country.
Its not one person who rules the country its a team ? has he got the team , where will he get his team from.

Will election of one Religious scholar not lead to promotion of a particular sect ?


being a devotee of a scholar we always like them but we have to look at his administrative siklls, management skills, leadership qualities and skills, his team , his foresightedness , his understanding of geo politics and national politics and many more things.

Altough none of our present so called leaders possess all or either one of those qualities but if we want a good leader for pakistan atleast he should possess few of them.
now you have to decide does hafiz saab qualify ?
 

naeem08

Voter (50+ posts)
1.hafiz sahab has best team comprising almost 10000 people till present in all pakistan
2.hafiz sahab has all these qualities thats why i wrote this article
3.hafiz sahab does not represent any sect . u are just talking i have observed and seen it for a long time that in therr own mosque there is never ever any talk on fiqah , sectionism etc etc. if zohar is led by an ahle hadees imam sometime asar is led by deoband imam. who ever adapts which way its his own choice.
4. you say it will spread sectionism , which section in islam says that sood is not haram , which section says that , zina is halal, which say zulm is hilal, these are all triflings in which molvis are fighting not ulma e haq.
5. now i ask a question from you .out of all the parties which are in government or running the country including your beloved president , tell me the name of a single person who has all the characters that you want . manzoor watto? asif zardari? rehman malik? babar awan? nawaz sharif ? ch nisar? who has these qualities.
 

sarbakaf

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Dear Naeem
Although hafiz saab is leading a jammat of 10000 and has a team of 10000 i am asking about abilities of team .......they may be pious , honest , namazi etc but do they have abilities to do admin, financial , economic, political, foreign dealings etc. ?

to be religious is one thing to be administrator is yet another ....

and please dont take it personal....i m not defending zardari, musharaf, sharif .........but we do not want to be bitten by yet another one
 

omerkashmiri

Siasat.pk - Blogger
You have mentioned in your article that he does not believe in current democratic form of government so how do you expect him to be the leader of this country ? I know tanzeem-islami wants to establish nizam-e-khilafat in Pakistan , but keeping in mind we have people from so different sects in this country who are not even willing to pray in same mosque, so expecting them to follow one ameer is some thing incomprehensible to me. I wish it could happen but wishing in it self is not enough. These mullahs do not agree on sighting of moon can you expect from them that they can have some common national policy. Fact of the matter is our religious leader ship is as corrupt as our political leadership is . There are exceptions everywhere but i do not see any potential in our religious parties , we have all seen what they did after forming MMA.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Surely tanzeeme islami should rule this country , and iam sure jamat e islami , tahreeke islami will be with them once the moment comes inshalah.

I heard Dr Israr say once in his interview about Maulana Maudoodi: The biggest mistake he made was that he got into politics. He could have guided instead of involved. (clap)

one can not be more correct on this. Leaders and Ulamas should become lazim-o-malzoom.

But the way Jewish influence, and incompetence of our leaders is that they don't even want to sit at the same dining table as ulama. They consider them as Indian untouchables, much less get guidance. :(
 

naeem08

Voter (50+ posts)
Dear Naeem
Although hafiz saab is leading a jammat of 10000 and has a team of 10000 i am asking about abilities of team .......they may be pious , honest , namazi etc but do they have abilities to do admin, financial , economic, political, foreign dealings etc. ?

to be religious is one thing to be administrator is yet another ....

and please dont take it personal....i m not defending zardari, musharaf, sharif .........but we do not want to be bitten by yet another one
dear brother now we will have to go into the past , jamate islami was an islamic revolutionary jamat who wanted bring islam in country . they made a mistake to come in election politics , but this mistake shown us another side of the picture. THEIR PARTY PROVED OUT TO BE THE MOST DISCIPLINED PARTY out of all political parties having no inheritence politics. tanzeeme islami is a jamat which was made by some people who separated from jamat and had the same qualities but did not go into election politics. yes u r right that to be religious is one thing and to be administrator is an other thing . if ou understand the basic difference between three examplary jamats you will understand .take an example of three jamats
1 tablighi jamat
2.dawate islami
3.tanzeem e islami
NOW THERE IS A BASIC DIFFERENCE IN THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOLY PROPHETS(SAW) LIFE AMONG THESE. FIRST TWO JAMATS HAVE A VIEW OF HUZOORS LIFE AS HAZOOR HAD JUST CAME TO TELL PEOPLE THE TOHEED , AND TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE RELIGION. TANZEEM E ISLAMI AND ITS ANCESTOR JAMAT E ISLAMI ARE OF HE VIEW THAT YES HAZOOR CAME TO DO ALL THESE THINGS BUT YET THERE IS ONE THING THAT
HAZOOR DID. HE DID NOT ONLY TAUGHT RELIGION TO HIS SAHABA HE DID THEIR TARBIYYAT AND POLISHED THEM AS ADMINISTRATORS . STRESSING ON THE WORD ADMINISTRATOR . HE TURNED THE RAW PEOPLE INTO SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ADMINISTRATORS WHO RULED MORE THAN 3\4 OF THIS EARTH IN SUCH A WAY I DONT NEED TO DESCRIBE.
TODAY ITS THE ONLY WEAKNESS WE HAVE A CONCEPT OF DEEN AS JUST NAMAZ QURAN , ZAKAT HAJJ. NO NO NO NOT AT ALL . THS IS RELIGION . DEEN IS SOME WHAT ELSE . SO TANZEEME ISLAMI HAS A BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE OF TARBIYYAT AND MAKING ADMINISTRATORS AMONG PEOPLE HAVING QUALITIES LIKE SAHABA. THE ORGANIZATION HAS A STRUCTURE IN WHICH THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE POSTS , PEOPLE ARE TRAINED TO WORK DILIGENTLY .
NOW YOU THINK DEEPLY ABT THE DIFFERENCE AMONG THE ABOVE THREE JAMATS . IF ONLY THIS DIFFERENCE WAS NOT THERE I WOULD HAD BEEN LOVING TABLIGHI JAMAT. LAST THING THAT IF TANZEEM GETS THE RULE THEN THERE WILL BE THE ASOOL OF ELIGIBILITY i.e THE RIGHT PERSON AT RIGHT PLACE . IF IT IS FOUND FROM THE JAMAT ITS OK BUT IF IT IS NOT IN JAMAT ITCAN BE TAKEN FROM OUTSIDE.
 

naeem08

Voter (50+ posts)
you have mentioned in your article that he does not believe in current democratic form of government so how do you expect him to be the leader of this country ? I know tanzeem-islami wants to establish nizam-e-khilafat in pakistan , but keeping in mind we have people from so different sects in this country who are not even willing to pray in same mosque, so expecting them to follow one ameer is some thing incomprehensible to me. I wish it could happen but wishing in it self is not enough. These mullahs do not agree on sighting of moon can you expect from them that they can have some common national policy. Fact of the matter is our religious leader ship is as corrupt as our political leadership is . There are exceptions everywhere but i do not see any potential in our religious parties , we have all seen what they did after forming mma.
1. Elecion politics can never ever be successful in our country where literacy rate is too low and there is fudalism prevailing so going into elections when you are not able to do ``badmashi`` ,``ghunda gardi `` you can never win . And it needs long detail how this election system is corrupt . To change a system it is absurd to be thee part of the system . You see the example of jamate islami . Even after gaining the government in nwfp they were not able to do any thing valuable , bcz system is corrupt .
2. Yes totally agreed our religious leadership is as corrupt as poltical leadership . But you must keep inn mind all fingers are not equal. I think you have not read point no. 11 of my article.
3. Mma was composed of corrupt mullas (not all). Actually these corrupt mullas have made our such condition.
4. Sects . Brother we have an example in our neighbour country iran of how shia sunni are working together , although the law has shia religion prevailing but sunnis are there in shura . You must have a look at the structure of iran government .
 

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