.......??????? ?????

[84471k]

My dear,, aap ke reply ka simple answer hai k, aap pakistan main kiun reh rahay ho phir,, jaao india main ja k raho, jahan indian armiy k jawan aap logo ke maan behan ke izzatein loot-tein hein, tum logo per tashadud kerte hein,, tum logo ko jobs nahi dete, tum logo kohaqooq nahi dete,, pakistan main phir kiun rehte ho,, main ne iss liay kaha, k tum log ihsan faramosh ho,, jiss thali main khatay ho ussi main chaid kerte ho,,, agar tum maqbooza kashmir main reh rahay hotay,, to kabhi ye na kehtey k pakistan aisa hai pakistan wesa hai,, tum azad kashmir k ho na iss liay tumhein maqbooza kashmir k logo k dird aur awaaz ka ehsaas nahi, un women ke awaaz aur gussey ka andaza nahi jin ke izzatein looti jati hein wahan, jin maaou k masoom bacho ko shaheed ker dia jata hai,, jin k masoom bhaioo ko torture kia jata hai. tum to azaad fiza main reh rahay ho,, iss liay tumhein itni batein aati hein. my dear hamarey balochistan main itney resources hein k porri duniya ke nazrein uss per tikki hoi hein, ham ne kabhi balochistan ke resources ko ab tak use nahi kia, to ham kashmir se kia faida lein gay bhala.. tumhein itna shoq hai na azaadi ke tehreek chalanay ka to ja k india main chlaao,, pakistan main nahi chlaao, kiun k sirf chund ginti k kashmiri he azaad kashmir chahtey hein, baaqi jitney bhe kashmiri hein wo pakistan k saath he rehna chahtey hein...
India main ja ker tehreek ka hissa bano,, tumhein pata lagay ga phir,, ye pakistan he hai jaha tum azaadi se ghoomtey ho, tum logo ko poorey pakistan main kisi bhe soobay ya city main jobs mil jati hein, tumhari maaou ya behnoo per koi galat nazar uthaa k nahi dekhta, tum logo ko koi torture nahi kerta, tumhein shaheed nahi kerta, mujhey tumharey kashmir se kuch lena dena nahi, tum logo ne kal jaan chorni hai to aaj aur abhi chor do, ta k hum pakistani to khush haal zindagi guzar sakein,
jiss ka khatay ho ussi ko aankhein dikhaa rahay ho tum,, history btati hai k kashmiri kabhi kisi k sakkay nahi ho saktay.
kisi indian forum per ja k ye batein karo,,, ye pakistani forum hai, aur yahan pakistan se pyar kerne walay users aatay hein,, aur jo koi bhe pakistan k khilaaf ya pakistan ko torne ke baat karey ga ussey koi bhe muhibb e watan berdaasht nahi karey ga,, understand.if u r living in pakistan so u have to be loyal. if not so u we dont have any place for u. simple

no comment.... the quran says about the person like u k jab tumhara wasta johla say pary to unhain kaho tm par salamti ho (qalu salama)

 

[heyguy]

with due of respect..kashmiri bhai,main ne kaha na k aap log ihsan faramosh ho aur ab to main aap ko traitor bhe kahoo ga.
main ne iss liay bewaqoof kaha, k ham sirf musilman honay ke waja se tum mazloomo ka saath dete hein,, magar ab jo mere dil main tum jeso k liay jo hamdardi thi, wo bhe khatam ho gai.. mujhey maloom tha k kashmiri jis thaali main khatay hein ussi main chaid kertey hein, tum logo ko ye azaab ALLAH ke taraf se mila howa hai, kiun k tum logo k dil main kuch hota hai, zuban per kuch hota hai, shaied munafiq ho tum log. paraie jung se muraad america ke jung nahi,, tumhari jung,, india aur pakistan k iss waqt halaat intihaie nazuk hein,, aur yahan tak pohanchanay walay sirf tum log ho. tum logo k paas hai kia? jo tum log aik independant kashmir banana chahtey ho? koi aik cheaz batao jis se tum logo ke economy chal sakay ge. kashmir main jitney bhe mujahdeen ab tak shaheed howay hein un main half se bhe zayada pakistani mujahdeen they,, pakistani mujahdeen tum logo ka ab tak saath dete aaey hein,, magar ab nahi,, tumhari azaad ke jung hai na, tum log khud laro,, ham ne tumhara theyka uthaya howa hai kia, ham bhe dekhte hein k india ke 8 laakh army k samnay tum log kab azaadi hasil karo gay,, aaj to obama ne bhe keh dia k pakistan aur india ka ye apas ka maamla hai,, wo khud kashmir ka masla hal karein,, aur mujhey khushi hoi ye sun ker, kiun k jo munafiq hotey hein na un ke ALLAH dua bhe qabool nahi kerta,, aur un ke her kisam ke koshish nakaam ho jati hai,,
poorey pakistan ne KASHMIR main truck bher bher ker tum ko her kisam ke madad de, C 130 full saman se bharey howay tum logo tak puhnchaey,
hazaro nojwano ne kashmir main ja ker tum logo ke madad ke,,
main to sirf tum ko itna kahoo ga,,,

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
what the F*** is all this B***shit
I just want to let you people know that k Hindu baniya sahi kaam raha hai yaha bhi Do bhaiyon ko aapas me ladhwa raha hai.Please be aware that someone is pretending to be paki and posting this kind of stuff which not true.
May ALLAH guide us all

 

[sami]

piyaray bhai.
jahan tak kashmir pay app k concerns ka sawal hai to us main kisi ko koi shak kernay ke ijazat nahe laikin jo app keh rahai hain wo tasweer ka aik rukh hai or samajhdari is main hai k tasweer k dono rukh daikhay jain, tehriq-e-azadi-kashmir main jahan tak pakistan ke contributions ke baat hai is say inkar mumkin nahe. agar app tarikh ka mutalia rakhtay hain to app ko pat ho ga k india ke kabi b jurat nahe hue k wo pakistan pay attack ker sakay, hamesha pakistan ke taraf say pehl ke gae or waja kia the, 'kashmir'
1948 main pakistan nay indian agression k jawab main kashmir pay aik jang lari or yeh azad kashmir azad hua, phir April 1965 main pakistan nay apna aik commando operation indian occupied kashmir main start kia is mission ka naam tha 'operaion jibralter' maqsaad tha kashmirion k saat mil ker gorilla warfare start ke jay or kashmir ko azadi dilwai jay or ise operation ke khabar jab dushman ko hue to sep1965 ke war ka aghaz hua phir kargil war to hum sab k samnay hai yeh be aik koshish the kashmie ke azadi ke. mera kehnay ka sirf aik maqsad hai k kashmirion ko apnay app ko pakistan say alag nahe samjhna chahiay, pehlay hum mil ker apnay dushman yani india ko apnay ghar say nikal bahir karain phir baith ker bhai apas main tay ker saktay hain k kashmir ka kya kerna hai or hona to phir wohe hai jo kashmiri chahtay hain. bas apnay ilfazon ko soch samajh ker istamal krain or sochain kaheen hum pakistan dushmani main apnay dushmano k ala-e-kar na banjain.
'yaranay wafa kehtay hain kashmir hai janat'
janat kisi kafir ko mili hai na milay ge!

 

[84471k]

piyaray bhai.
jahan tak kashmir pay app k concerns ka sawal hai to us main kisi ko koi shak kernay ke ijazat nahe laikin jo app keh rahai hain wo tasweer ka aik rukh hai or samajhdari is main hai k tasweer k dono rukh daikhay jain, tehriq-e-azadi-kashmir main jahan tak pakistan ke contributions ke baat hai is say inkar mumkin nahe. agar app tarikh ka mutalia rakhtay hain to app ko pat ho ga k india ke kabi b jurat nahe hue k wo pakistan pay attack ker sakay, hamesha pakistan ke taraf say pehl ke gae or waja kia the, 'kashmir'
1948 main pakistan nay indian agression k jawab main kashmir pay aik jang lari or yeh azad kashmir azad hua, phir April 1965 main pakistan nay apna aik commando operation indian occupied kashmir main start kia is mission ka naam tha 'operaion jibralter' maqsaad tha kashmirion k saat mil ker gorilla warfare start ke jay or kashmir ko azadi dilwai jay or ise operation ke khabar jab dushman ko hue to sep1965 ke war ka aghaz hua phir kargil war to hum sab k samnay hai yeh be aik koshish the kashmie ke azadi ke. mera kehnay ka sirf aik maqsad hai k kashmirion ko apnay app ko pakistan say alag nahe samjhna chahiay, pehlay hum mil ker apnay dushman yani india ko apnay ghar say nikal bahir karain phir baith ker bhai apas main tay ker saktay hain k kashmir ka kya kerna hai or hona to phir wohe hai jo kashmiri chahtay hain. bas apnay ilfazon ko soch samajh ker istamal krain or sochain kaheen hum pakistan dushmani main apnay dushmano k ala-e-kar na banjain.
'yaranay wafa kehtay hain kashmir hai janat'
janat kisi kafir ko mili hai na milay ge!

appriciated bro, the point am trying to explain is, kashmir is a disputed area & only kashmiri ppl ev right 2 decide there future.... india & pakistan r parties in this dispute but they ev no right 2 impose their solution over kashmiri ppl.... v appriciare the efforts ev been made by pakistan but those were not been in the interest of the freedom struggle... ill giv u just 1 exemple, in 1988 kashmiries started the armed struggle against india & they got moral support from across the globe but after the influence of pakistani based militent groups, the freedom struggle turned into a religulous conflict & after 9/11 world stick the label of terrorism on the freedom struggle of kashmir... the thing v r demanding frm pakistan is to support us morally(like qadafi did) not practically.... & the very importently don't impose things on kashmiries, let them decide their future, v can deal india by all means but v gota think about pakistan. the way pakistan is dealing at the moment is causing hate among kashmiries.. hope u got the answer, always need ur comments, thnx

 

[Guest]

[ I just want to let you people know that k Hindu baniya sahi kaam raha hai yaha bhi Do bhaiyon ko aapas me ladhwa raha hai.Please be aware that someone is pretending to be paki and posting this kind of stuff which not true.
May ALLAH guide us all
[/size][/b]

[/quote]
i m totly agree with u and i dont think so k yae anda jo iss kism ki post ker reha hae he is paki r muslim u never know people using fake id just to make trouble between pakistani brothers so sab say yahi request hae key iss kisim key bandy ki post ko ignoor ker diya keren aur khuch b na likha keren ,
jahil say behas kerna nuksan ka baies banta hae just simple ignoor it ,
ALLAH hum sab pakistanis KO apis mae PIYAR MOHABAT aur WATAN KI SACHI CHAHAT ATAA FERMAYEN (aameen )

 

[Bret Hawk]

I personally endorse some of the views and sentiments of brother whose id is 84417k in this forum. But on this point when he says that Pakistan is not sincere with the cause of Kashmiris then he need to further elaborate that for Pakistan he means its evil establishment (Im its biggest critic as well) or does it comprises its masses as well. If he means that Pakistani establishment then I agree that its only purpose to engage on this issue with Indian establishment is to keep the majority of Pakistani masses in the siege mentality by exposing the threats and challenges of an Indian state. I would like to cite some of the popular historical facts here in this regard to show that how much committed and fair Pakistani establishment is on the issues and plights of Kashmiri people;


A) Its interesting to note (As contrary to the Pakistani texts which I also read during my college and university times) that Maharja of Kashmir Hari Singh initially was not in the favour of acceding to either Pakistan or India but he wanted to maintain the independent status of Jammu & Kashmir region It was however Pakistan Armys instigation that the guerrillas of NWFP and tribal region (How the tides of time changes so quickly..now the same Tribal region is under the severe attack of their own masters of the past) stated to pull pressure on the Kashmir region and crumbling under th pressure of those warriors Hari Singh out of disgust and compulsion have to resort to the Indian government for military assistance, which Indian government acquiesced on the condition of accession to their dominion. Buckling down the pressure of that offensive from the tribal warriors of Pakistan region the Maharaja of Kashmir agreed and therefore accede the whole valley of Jammu & Kashmir to the Indians.

Of course as Pakistani establishment can claim the legitimacy of that decision of the Maharaja but how come the Army chief of the then Pakistan General Douglas Gracey dared to reject the order of Quaid E Azam and refused to send the Pakistani forces in that war with India in 1947-48. It might have been very easy for the Pakistani forces to capture the big chunk of Kashmir region as what the Indians have now after the ill fated consequences of that war. Thus far that audacity to say no to the most respectful and dignified civil personality of Pakistan epitomises the unruly and defiant nature of this hegemonic collaborators aka Pakistan Army.

2) The 1962 border conflict of China & India, which was an excellent opportunity till this day for the Pakistani establishment to attack and capture the remaining portion of Jammu & Kashmir from the hands of the Indians as Indias position in that war was dreadful and they would have not resisted with much venom and force against the Pakistani forces after the thorough drubbing they received at the hands of the brutal and ruthless Red Army. Now how can we define that move of Pakistani Generals and most notably the self proclaimed Field Marshal of this country at that particular juncture which was so critical? Keep in kmnd that the same kind of opportunity was perfectly seized by their nemesis in the 1970-71 conflict with cunning and well improvised execution and thus how completely dismembered the East Wing of the then combined Pakistan.

I think Pakistani establishment and its propaganda machinery cant fool everyone for a long time with their concocted stories and facts which they delineate in the curriculum and media outlets of Pakistan if they are fair enough for the cause of Kashmir and its people (And not to their own interests of gaining strategic control of the region and its resources as its rightly mentioned by the creator of this thread) then they have to quell this current feign posturing on this issue. I personally think that Pakistan has still not forgiven Indians on their role in East Pakistan and ever since that debacle of late 1971 the Pakistans military establishment has decided ever since to bleed their nemesis on any available opportunity and Kashmir front is one of them. I still have not problem with this adventurous kind of thinking but Im bitterly against the use of that ill fated strategy at the expense of the poor and deprived masses of this poor country. They can fulfil their animosities and feel free to settle the score with Indians but only after uplifting the life standard of its common populace otherwise cynics like me will always consider the fake threats of India and its overwhelming influence on Pakistan are nothing but to take the major chunk of Pakistans resources on constant basis. And when someone dare to question the Mi Baap of this country on their unlimited rights of dacoity on the budget and resources of this poor country then they can vehemently rubbished that persons acts of dastardness and label them as the agents of India and traitors. Kashmir is nothing but one of those spurious bulwark walls at the back of which this shoe polishers and mercenary (For Rent) army of Pakistan can play their dirty tricks and create the illusions of threats & insecurity for the simple minded people of Pakistan in order to gain their support for their evil activities and plans.

 

[84471k]

I personally endorse some of the views and sentiments of brother whose id is 84417k in this forum. But on this point when he says that Pakistan is not sincere with the cause of Kashmiris then he need to further elaborate that for Pakistan he means its evil establishment (Im its biggest critic as well) or does it comprises its masses as well. If he means that Pakistani establishment then I agree that its only purpose to engage on this issue with Indian establishment is to keep the majority of Pakistani masses in the siege mentality by exposing the threats and challenges of an Indian state. I would like to cite some of the popular historical facts here in this regard to show that how much committed and fair Pakistani establishment is on the issues and plights of Kashmiri people;


A) Its interesting to note (As contrary to the Pakistani texts which I also read during my college and university times) that Maharja of Kashmir Hari Singh initially was not in the favour of acceding to either Pakistan or India but he wanted to maintain the independent status of Jammu & Kashmir region It was however Pakistan Armys instigation that the guerrillas of NWFP and tribal region (How the tides of time changes so quickly..now the same Tribal region is under the severe attack of their own masters of the past) stated to pull pressure on the Kashmir region and crumbling under th pressure of those warriors Hari Singh out of disgust and compulsion have to resort to the Indian government for military assistance, which Indian government acquiesced on the condition of accession to their dominion. Buckling down the pressure of that offensive from the tribal warriors of Pakistan region the Maharaja of Kashmir agreed and therefore accede the whole valley of Jammu & Kashmir to the Indians.

Of course as Pakistani establishment can claim the legitimacy of that decision of the Maharaja but how come the Army chief of the then Pakistan General Douglas Gracey dared to reject the order of Quaid E Azam and refused to send the Pakistani forces in that war with India in 1947-48. It might have been very easy for the Pakistani forces to capture the big chunk of Kashmir region as what the Indians have now after the ill fated consequences of that war. Thus far that audacity to say no to the most respectful and dignified civil personality of Pakistan epitomises the unruly and defiant nature of this hegemonic collaborators aka Pakistan Army.

2) The 1962 border conflict of China & India, which was an excellent opportunity till this day for the Pakistani establishment to attack and capture the remaining portion of Jammu & Kashmir from the hands of the Indians as Indias position in that war was dreadful and they would have not resisted with much venom and force against the Pakistani forces after the thorough drubbing they received at the hands of the brutal and ruthless Red Army. Now how can we define that move of Pakistani Generals and most notably the self proclaimed Field Marshal of this country at that particular juncture which was so critical? Keep in kmnd that the same kind of opportunity was perfectly seized by their nemesis in the 1970-71 conflict with cunning and well improvised execution and thus how completely dismembered the East Wing of the then combined Pakistan.

I think Pakistani establishment and its propaganda machinery cant fool everyone for a long time with their concocted stories and facts which they delineate in the curriculum and media outlets of Pakistan if they are fair enough for the cause of Kashmir and its people 9And not to their own interests of gaining strategic control of the region and its resources as its rightly mentioned by the creator of this thread) then they have to quell this current feign posturing on this issue. I personally think that Pakistan has still not forgiven Indians on their role in East Pakistan and ever since that debacle of late 1971 the Pakistans military establishment has decided ever since to bleed their nemesis on any available opportunity and Kashmir front is one of them. I still have not problem with this adventurous kind of thinking but Im bitterly against the use of that ill fated strategy at the expense of the poor and deprived masses of this poor country. They can fulfil their animosities and feel free to settle the score with Indians but only after uplifting the life standard of its common populace otherwise cynics like me will always consider the fake threats of India and its overwhelming influence on Pakistan are nothing but to take the major chunk of Pakistans resources on constant basis. And when someone dare to question the Mi Baap of this country on their unlimited rights of dacoity on the budget and resources of this poor country then they can vehemently rubbished that persons acts of dastardness and label them as the agents of India and traitors. Kashmir is nothing but one of those spurious bulwark walls at the back of which this shoe polishers and mercenary (For Rent) army of Pakistan can play their dirty tricks and create the illusions of threats & insecurity for the simple minded people of Pakistan in order to gain their support for their evil activities and plans.

well-done bro, i respect ur vews, appriciated? u know about the issue, here i would like 2 clear again that when v say pakistan is doesn't mean the state & ppl of pakistan... it means the pakistani establishment & corrupt elite class.... v never been against the pakistani state & citizenz,,,
another thing shuld b very clear 2 everybody that the only kashmiri ppl ev right 2 decide their fututr, if they want 2 live independent, u shuld respect their wishes & ur support shuld b unconditional.... thnx again

 

[Paki_Loyal]

Quran ye bhe fermata hai k,, tumhari safho main bohat se fitnay bhe majood hein, un fitno ke pihchan karo, jo fasad k jur ho gay, Main to aik pakistani loyal hoo. aap kon ho? hamarey leaders jese bhe hein hamari stablishment jesi bhe hai, magar jab watn e pak ke baat aaey ge to main being a pakistani baat karoo ga, chahay hamarey apas main kitney he ikhtilafat ho.. Tum aik fitnay ka kaam ker rahay ho, tum pakistani forum per bhaith ker pakistan k khilaaf baat ker rahay ho, magar jo users tumharey comments ko appricate ker rahay hein wo shaied gafil hein, wo samjh nahi pa rahay k tumhara asal maqsad kia hai,, main ne simply kaha hai, tum ko independand kashmir chahiay to ja ker india main awaaz buland karo, yahan iss forum per umhein kuch nahi milne wala, aur agar main jahil hoo to tum apnay gareban main jhan ker dekh lo, k tum aik bgairat ho. jis ke maan behan ke izzatein looti ja rahi hein,, aur wo yaha bhaith ker khushhaal kashmirio ko wergila raha hai,,, na sirf tum bgairat ho bul k munafiq aur fitna bhe ho,, next time soch samjh k alfaaz use kerna,,

 

[84471k]

Quran ye bhe fermata hai k,, tumhari safho main bohat se fitnay bhe majood hein, un fitno ke pihchan karo, jo fasad k jur ho gay, Main to aik pakistani loyal hoo. aap kon ho? hamarey leaders jese bhe hein hamari stablishment jesi bhe hai, magar jab watn e pak ke baat aaey ge to main being a pakistani baat karoo ga, chahay hamarey apas main kitney he ikhtilafat ho.. Tum aik fitnay ka kaam ker rahay ho, tum pakistani forum per bhaith ker pakistan k khilaaf baat ker rahay ho, magar jo users tumharey comments ko appricate ker rahay hein wo shaied gafil hein, wo samjh nahi pa rahay k tumhara asal maqsad kia hai,, main ne simply kaha hai, tum ko independand kashmir chahiay to ja ker india main awaaz buland karo, yahan iss forum per umhein kuch nahi milne wala, aur agar main jahil hoo to tum apnay gareban main jhan ker dekh lo, k tum aik bgairat ho. jis ke maan behan ke izzatein looti ja rahi hein,, aur wo yaha bhaith ker khushhaal kashmirio ko wergila raha hai,,, na sirf tum bgairat ho bul k munafiq aur fitna bhe ho,, next time soch samjh k alfaaz use kerna,,

????? ????? ?? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ??? ?? ?? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ???????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? ???? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????? ??? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?? ?? ????????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ???? ???? ????????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ?? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ?? ????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ????? ????????
??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??
?? ???? ??? ?? ????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ?? ?? ???? ??

 

[Paki_Loyal]

aap se behas kerna bikaar hai dear. aap ne apni awaaz uthani hai to, president house k samnay ja ker uthaien, parliament house k samnay ja k uthaein, UN k office k samnay ja k uthaien, indian embassy k samnay ja k uthaien,, yahan per aap ke awaaz mainay khaiz sabit nahi ho sakti, being a muslim hamari sab hamdardiaa kashmiri bhaio k saath hein, na sirf kashmiri iraq, afgansitan,falasteen, aur un sab muslims bhaio aur behno k saath hein jin per zulm ho raha hai. per aik baat aap ko manna parey ge, k azaad kashmir aur mabooza kashmir main zameen wa aasman ka faraq hai, azaad kashmir main kashmiri azaadi ke fiza main zindagi guzar rahay hein, un per koi zulm wa tashadud nahi hota, pakistan ke her city main kashmiri khush haal zindagiguzar rahay hein, hamarey pakistani deen e islam ke buniyad per jihad per jatay hein, un jihadio ko ye garz nahi hota k kashmir pakistan k saath merg ho ya independant country banay, wo sirf jihad ko zehan main rekhtey hein, aur pakistan her lihaaz se un ke support aaj tak kerta aa raha hai. werna aap ke freedom ke movement kab ke dub chuki hoti, poori duniya main pakistan ne he masla kashmir ko ujagar keeya, aap log k apnay hurriyat rehnumao main ikhtilafaat hein, abdul ghani kuch kehta hai, yaseen malik kuch kehta hai, geelani sahab kuch kehtey hein, aur umer abdullah kuch kehta hai,, so pehle aap log apas main to mutahad ho jaien, phir pakistan ke stablishment aur hamari govt per ilzamat lgaiay ga, pehle apna gher theek karo phir azaadi ke awaaz buland kerna,

 

[faisal81]

koi alag nahi hona chanda yaara. sab nu apney apney haqook milan tey sarey khush rehn.nazargee da matbal hargiz aye nahi haiga k koi tuadey tu apna talaq he khatam kar deina chanda haiga. jo kashmiriyaan tey guzar rahi haigi dono side aan tu agar mere naal ho reya honda tey shayad mein vi alag hona chanda.
is masley da hal aye haiga k pehlan kashmiri aik jhandey taley jamah hoon aur isteymaal hona band hoon. pak aur india agar madad karey tey apney mufaad da soch kar na karey.. bas.. khush haal gharana.

 

[Typhoon]

Feed me deta houn bacho bhai.

Kashmir Pakistan ki sherag he.
Kashmir ko haq-e-khud iradyat mila to tehreek-e-Pakistan ke baad, yani ke Pakistan banene ke baad.
Azad Kashmir ko Azad kara ke khud mukhtar kiya Pakistanio ne, remember pakistanis liberated Azad Kashmir. therfore it`s called Azad.
It has its own flag, own ministry or har saal ke budget se un ko hissa bhi Pakistan deta he.
konse wasaiyl ki baat kar rahe ho?
Kya Kashmir me oil nikalta he? Kya waha gas he? Gas to waha Pakistan se jaati he.
Kya waha gold, copper, salt, iron, silver, cole nikalta he?
Konse wasayl he Kashmir me jis pe Pakistan ne ankh rakhi hoi he?
Dont make yourself fool here pappoo.
Das baara bando ki pictures yaha tag kar ke tum samjhte ho ke ye drama chal jae ga?
Kashmir me india ne bohot se tattoo peda kar lie hein, jese farooq abdullah and sons.
esi hi ek indian backed jamat jiski tum chmcha giri tum kar rahe ho.
Pakistan ne kabhi bhi kashmir ka koi haq talaf nahi kya. Agar pakistani leaders ki baat karo to wo saale to corrupt he, or kashmir kya punjab, sindh, balochistan, sarhad ko bhi loot rahe heim.
kashmir is not a single case.
rahi baat waha tents me rehne walo ki, to waha ek azad governement he jisko kashmirion ne elect kiya he, wo agar deliver nahi kar rahe to waha elections karao.
But do not say here that pakistan is doing wrong with kashmiris.
india is the occupant, and you should rather go on an indian site.
ye ke tum yaha pe dugdugi baja rahe ho is baat ka suboot he ke tum pakistani to kya kashmiri bhi nahi ho. You are an indian, a hindu from indian occupied kashmir who are pretending to be a kashmir.
many hindu pundits had to run from jammu and they are involved in projecting such sentiments you are trying to propagate here.
That you can write urdu dosent mean that you are kashmiri.
its very easy by having right software programmes.

 

[84471k]

na tera na uska, sab say pehly, mera desh

if JKLF is against pakistan then what will u call this???
JKLF's stand about the issue is, v respect the ppl of pakistan n india, but v don't want 2 live with them, watch this video carefuly n think about the affect of ur govt.'s polices in kashmir... u can still feel the aftershocks.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdi-HlK46so[/video]

 

[84471k]

Feed me deta houn bacho bhai.

Kashmir Pakistan ki sherag he.
Kashmir ko haq-e-khud iradyat mila to tehreek-e-Pakistan ke baad, yani ke Pakistan banene ke baad.
Azad Kashmir ko Azad kara ke khud mukhtar kiya Pakistanio ne, remember pakistanis liberated Azad Kashmir. therfore it`s called Azad.
It has its own flag, own ministry or har saal ke budget se un ko hissa bhi Pakistan deta he.
konse wasaiyl ki baat kar rahe ho?
Kya Kashmir me oil nikalta he? Kya waha gas he? Gas to waha Pakistan se jaati he.
Kya waha gold, copper, salt, iron, silver, cole nikalta he?
Konse wasayl he Kashmir me jis pe Pakistan ne ankh rakhi hoi he?
Dont make yourself fool here pappoo.
Das baara bando ki pictures yaha tag kar ke tum samjhte ho ke ye drama chal jae ga?
Kashmir me india ne bohot se tattoo peda kar lie hein, jese farooq abdullah and sons.
esi hi ek indian backed jamat jiski tum chmcha giri tum kar rahe ho.
Pakistan ne kabhi bhi kashmir ka koi haq talaf nahi kya. Agar pakistani leaders ki baat karo to wo saale to corrupt he, or kashmir kya punjab, sindh, balochistan, sarhad ko bhi loot rahe heim.
kashmir is not a single case.
rahi baat waha tents me rehne walo ki, to waha ek azad governement he jisko kashmirion ne elect kiya he, wo agar deliver nahi kar rahe to waha elections karao.
But do not say here that pakistan is doing wrong with kashmiris.
india is the occupant, and you should rather go on an indian site.
ye ke tum yaha pe dugdugi baja rahe ho is baat ka suboot he ke tum pakistani to kya kashmiri bhi nahi ho. You are an indian, a hindu from indian occupied kashmir who are pretending to be a kashmir.
many hindu pundits had to run from jammu and they are involved in projecting such sentiments you are trying to propagate here.
That you can write urdu dosent mean that you are kashmiri.
its very easy by having right software programmes.

????? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ?? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ??? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ??????

 

[Paki_Loyal]

Admin please ban this 844K. He is an indian,jo ham sab pakistanio ko bewaqoof bana raha hai, aur hamarey he forum per aa ker hamein he jahil aur fool keh raha hai. i kindly request u, plz ban this guy,,

 

[masadi1980]

Re: na tera na uska, sab say pehly, mera desh

Brother desh is Hindi word, hindu normaly says desh instead of des ......
I dont know why u used this word ..........
And why you suppose yourself as a slave of Pakistan.
People of Pakistan never ever thinked like you. But you are promoting here a different thought that people of Pakistan are treating Kashmiris like slaves. You and your posts are spreading hate among people of Pakistan. We are Pakistani and we love our nation including kashmiris.
And what you think, today if Pakistan quit from kashmir policy,
Will you get independence???
What would be the consequences???
India will let you free??? or is he giving you human rights as International media shows.
Did you condemn ever indian insurgency or you happy with that.

I dont think so, you are representing here whole kashmiris.
One thing keep in your mind hate against Pakistan at any forum should be condemn.

 

[shahqais]

Re: na tera na uska, sab say pehly, mera desh

Mr 84471k has one clear agenda.defame pakistan and create hatred in our mind for our kashmiri brothers which he will never succeed in.InshaAllah.

 

[capre786]

sir i agree with u i know every 1 possessive about their state
I agree that u have only right on Kashmir no one else has this right neither India nor Our Pakistan
Brother who reply to u abt Kashmir actually he is innocent Pakistani . he really don't know facts and figure that u had collected. He reply 2 u with emotions n will u believe every innocent PAKISTANI except politician n Govt person mean local body's THINK IN SAME WAY , the reason behind that we always listen from our forefathers that Kashmir is only our part,
innocent na
ap kehty hain k Pakistan ny aj tk Kashmir k liy kuch nhi kia , just recall ur history once jb ap hi k baro ny decision lia Pak k sath milny ka, Pakistan went 2 war with India only due to ur state n u at that time went in war when it was a weak state. no military and no weapons
ap hmien East Pakistan k seprate hony ka tana dety hain then plz ap b koi Mujeeb u rehman tlash krien apni state ko azad krwany k liy. aj tk ap kis k intzar main bethy hain?? ap log b help lien so called India sy akhir East Pakistan main b unhi ki conspiracies thin.
hmary hukmran waqi buht bury hain i agree wo waqi ap k resources kha rahy hain then Sir just tell what r u doing ???agy barh kr apna haq lien . just yaha ap ki batien tu sirf few people hi smjhin gy
haa ik bat tu thik hi hai be waqof tu nhi keh skty but inocent, wja ye k agr hmm Afghanistan main USA ki jang na larty tu aj hmm USSR sy azadi mang rahy hoty, ab tu chalo phir kuch azad hi hain. haa phir shyd mza b ata kio k Russia tu India ka frend hai dono mil kr ap pr or hmm pr hkomat krty

i just want 2 say one thing plz just, pta hai war on terror sy pehly hmara sara focus kashmir pr hi tha but phir wo hi bat hmara political system jo k sirf few people k hath main hain or is wqt hmm mjbor hain kio k hmm khud halat jang main hain, but must think about those Pakistani Moms who say with pride k hmara beta Kashmir azad krwany gia tha or shaheed ho gia....
aj b ap k Kashmir main war ho jay na tu koi ni ay ga tb b hmm hi ay gy. Kashmir ap ka hi hai hmra nhi , bl k hmary apny ilaqy danger main hain tu hmm ny ap k Kashmir ko ly kr kia krna hai

I wish u must get Ur freedom

 

[84471k]

Re: na tera na uska, sab say pehly, mera desh

Brother desh is Hindi word, hindu normaly says desh instead of des ......
I dont know why u used this word ..........
And why you suppose yourself as a slave of Pakistan.
People of Pakistan never ever thinked like you. But you are promoting here a different thought that people of Pakistan are treating Kashmiris like slaves. You and your posts are spreading hate among people of Pakistan. We are Pakistani and we love our nation including kashmiris.
And what you think, today if Pakistan quit from kashmir policy,
Will you get independence???
What would be the consequences???
India will let you free??? or is he giving you human rights as International media shows.
Did you condemn ever indian insurgency or you happy with that.

I dont think so, you are representing here whole kashmiris.
One thing keep in your mind hate against Pakistan at any forum should be condemn.

??? ???? ??? ?? ?? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ??? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ?? ????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?? ??? ?? ???? ????? ??????? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ?????????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ?? ??????? ???? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? ??????????? ?? ??? ???????? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?? ??? ?? ?? ??? ????????
??? ?? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ?? ?? ????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ???? ??? ?? ?? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???? ???? ??????
???? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ???? ???????? ?? ???????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ????? ?? ???????? ???? ??????? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ?? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ??? ?? ?? ?? ????? ?? ????
???????
sorry forgot 2 answer ur question, ''Did you condemn ever indian insurgency or you happy with that. ''
yes v don't just condemn the indian insurgency but v picked the gun up against india & v r after untill india leaves our homeland....

 

[84471k]

sir i agree with u i know every 1 possessive about their state
I agree that u have only right on Kashmir no one else has this right neither India nor Our Pakistan
Brother who reply to u abt Kashmir actually he is innocent Pakistani . he really don't know facts and figure that u had collected. He reply 2 u with emotions n will u believe every innocent PAKISTANI except politician n Govt person mean local body's THINK IN SAME WAY , the reason behind that we always listen from our forefathers that Kashmir is only our part,
innocent na
ap kehty hain k Pakistan ny aj tk Kashmir k liy kuch nhi kia , just recall ur history once jb ap hi k baro ny decision lia Pak k sath milny ka, Pakistan went 2 war with India only due to ur state n u at that time went in war when it was a weak state. no military and no weapons
ap hmien East Pakistan k seprate hony ka tana dety hain then plz ap b koi Mujeeb u rehman tlash krien apni state ko azad krwany k liy. aj tk ap kis k intzar main bethy hain?? ap log b help lien so called India sy akhir East Pakistan main b unhi ki conspiracies thin.
hmary hukmran waqi buht bury hain i agree wo waqi ap k resources kha rahy hain then Sir just tell what r u doing ???agy barh kr apna haq lien . just yaha ap ki batien tu sirf few people hi smjhin gy
haa ik bat tu thik hi hai be waqof tu nhi keh skty but inocent, wja ye k agr hmm Afghanistan main USA ki jang na larty tu aj hmm USSR sy azadi mang rahy hoty, ab tu chalo phir kuch azad hi hain. haa phir shyd mza b ata kio k Russia tu India ka frend hai dono mil kr ap pr or hmm pr hkomat krty

i just want 2 say one thing plz just, pta hai war on terror sy pehly hmara sara focus kashmir pr hi tha but phir wo hi bat hmara political system jo k sirf few people k hath main hain or is wqt hmm mjbor hain kio k hmm khud halat jang main hain, but must think about those Pakistani Moms who say with pride k hmara beta Kashmir azad krwany gia tha or shaheed ho gia....
aj b ap k Kashmir main war ho jay na tu koi ni ay ga tb b hmm hi ay gy. Kashmir ap ka hi hai hmra nhi , bl k hmary apny ilaqy danger main hain tu hmm ny ap k Kashmir ko ly kr kia krna hai

I wish u must get Ur freedom

thnx brother, i feel myself over the moon when smbdy says, yes u the kashmiri ppl ev right to decide about ur future.... thnx again, u asked, what u ppl r doing 4 ur independence, so i would like 2 tell u v r still struggling with hope & determination but another thing the ppl of kashmir struggling for independence r facing extreme privation & suffering from both india & pakistan, u can form a mental picture of situation that pro andia & pro pakistan elements get support frm india n pakistan but v the pro independent ppl r just alone in our freedom struggle, but i'll like 2 tell u that the ideology of united independent kashmir is the voice of vast majority in kashmir...
nobdy can deny the role of pakistani ppl in our freedom struggle.. v always respect the efforts ev been made by pakistani ppl but the govts. frm the very beginning played a very bad role.......