1965 War Between Pakistan and India - Zaid Hamid

[dahashatkush]

[hilar][hilar] ,...thats good ...dekho ...we treat anyone who treats us with respect equally. Dekhona ...we ruled India for a 1000 years and are going to rule it again for eternity ...so for us these ranks and file dont matter because we are used to it.. The only criteria is you accept God as one and live under truthful rules set forth by God. And should you choose to not accept that then also so long as you live peacefully and abide by the laws we will respect and protect you...Thats all we say :):)

khaan daan ka naam ? muhammad bin qasim ?

muhammad ghori
any body from slave dynasty ?
khilji ?
tughlaq?
lodis?
mughals?


inme se kis khan daan se ho ? remember non of them was chikwa , kassai, nai, dhobi ,darji , choodihar, bhishti,bhangi, faqir ,mangta ,kalandar, madari,bajgar, bhatiyara, . all of these claim to have ruled hindus for the last 1000 years after the partition in 1947.

 

[Qureshi1975]

lo phir a gaye chikwa kasaio ki aulade , camel piss peeta rah pagalpan ka ilaj ho jayega , arabian camel hona chahiye .(bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)

Itnay bray danday ka itna sa jawab lagta hai dard kafi houi hai ;)

 

[dahashatkush]

Pakistan studies ke book utha ker Zaid Hamid nay ratta laga ker suna de.

Operation Gibralter kay baray mein kuch nahi kaha albatta...which started the war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gibraltar

1948 pakistan defeated india took 1/3 rd of india ------------(bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)

1965 operation gibralter within days ammunition of war finished defeat imminent for pakistan, lack of war material resulted in loss of thousands of villages in sialkot , lahaur, kacchh sind, .when indian forces reached lahaur one kilometer from the populated city area .
in a tradition of a civilised state halted just to avoid loss of civilian life .
idiots of pakistan army had to run for safety of lahaur where they reached only 24 hour later, which resulted in the abandonment of operation gibralter in kashmir .
the fools were thinking india will not attack in punjab and rajsthan . only most idiot generals of an army will dare to imagine that another country which is being attacked will not cross international border. the result was humiliated cries for the cease fire from pakistan which resulted in tashkent treaty .

this is a certainly equivalent to "mullaji who recieved hundred joots and had to eat 100 pyaj."
gaye the kashmir lene dene pade sialkot ke villages.

bahaduri ki gajab dastan.

 

[khanpanni]

You must come out of the pakistani text books and also the illusion of the pakistani victory,,,,,,,,
Here the debate is about the 1965 war so what is this rant about Indira Gandhi?......using phrases like as you sow, so shell you reap which has no place here....
Since you have nothing concrete to say you are rambling about in your post.......white masters, general public and so on....just stay on the topic.....
The war was started by pakistan and it lost it......period......

I am the eyewitness and the history of this war ?
In 1965 Lal Bahadur Shastari in his radio speech said, now we open the front accourding our choice and violated the international borders and attacked all fronts in Pakistan and our forces flatten the indian army in
17een days war on all fronts.
In those days our destny was to liberate Kashmir now the priorities have changed . India will again start the
war and we will end it according to our conditions. So Mr. Zaid Hamid has told this already and he is true with
his stance.

 

[dahashatkush]

I am the eyewitness and the history of this war ?
In 1965 Lal Bahadur Shastari in his radio speech said, now we open the front accourding our choice and violated the international borders and attacked all fronts in Pakistan and our forces flatten the indian army in
17een days war on all fronts.
In those days our destny was to liberate Kashmir now the priorities have changed . India will again start the
war and we will end it according to our conditions. So Mr. Zaid Hamid has told this already and he is true with
his stance.

zaid hamid said pakistan will land on moon in five years , so he has done.

now he is waiting khusaran army ............ pata nahi kab tak ? ****** hai aise jhoote aadmi par .

 

[ASQR1]

He as an ex Airforce commnader and is not aware of facts, let me put the facts for you desicat, i wish though that your name was something of a human and not an animal. Anyhow here it is.

In 1965 inida started interfering in Run of kuchh and was being beaten when Pakistan saw a big movement of of Indian forces in Kashmir so we took the first step thinking that it should not be like Run of kuchh, besides Kashmir is a disputed territory as per U.N. and we have the right to help Kahmiris,

In 1971 India interfered in east Pakiastan and not only that India had been training Terrorists Mukti Buhini for at least 5 years perior to the war, Mujeeb was a known traiters as he was imprisoned for Agartala sazish but was freed due to pressure by Bhutto at thr time,

Just to enlighten you caty, that from 1947 to 1971 Pakistan was mostly ruled by Bengalis, if you like to know than I shall put a list together of the names of bengali leaders from 1947 to 1971. ruling Pakistan.

So stop talking aboput these cliops that have no significance and are deviod of facts.

 

[hans]

Most of all Pakistani .. at one time in History were Hindu .... agree?

Have some respect for your forefathers.

 

[Unicorn]

He as an ex Airforce commnader and is not aware of facts, let me put the facts for you desicat, i wish though that your name was something of a human and not an animal. Anyhow here it is.

In 1965 inida started interfering in Run of kuchh and was being beaten when Pakistan saw a big movement of of Indian forces in Kashmir so we took the first step thinking that it should not be like Run of kuchh, besides Kashmir is a disputed territory as per U.N. and we have the right to help Kahmiris,

In 1971 India interfered in east Pakiastan and not only that India had been training Terrorists Mukti Buhini for at least 5 years perior to the war, Mujeeb was a known traiters as he was imprisoned for Agartala sazish but was freed due to pressure by Bhutto at thr time,

Just to enlighten you caty, that from 1947 to 1971 Pakistan was mostly ruled by Bengalis, if you like to know than I shall put a list together of the names of bengali leaders from 1947 to 1971. ruling Pakistan.

So stop talking aboput these cliops that have no significance and are deviod of facts.

I could post the statements by Air Marshall Noor who was the commander of air force and he says Pakistan started the war, but I won't do it because I would get an absurd response that as a commander of the air-force at the time called to help in the war says that Pakistan started the war and he considered quitting over it(yapping)(yapping). He had no idea what was going on only you and three quarter of your brainwashed population knows what was going on.[hilar]. Watch the documentary 1965 Revisited if you want hear him in person.

 

[ASQR1]

I could post the statements by Air Marshall Noor who was the commander of air force and he says Pakistan started the war, but I won't do it because I would get an absurd response that as a commander of the air-force at the time called to help in the war says that Pakistan started the war and he considered quitting over it(yapping)(yapping). He had no idea what was going on only you and three quarter of your brainwashed population knows what was going on.[hilar]. Watch the documentary 1965 Revisited if you want hear him in person.

You are more brain washed than all Pakistanis as you insist on your version of things which are mostly based on your side and is a lie. but about this Air chief he is not mentioning the fact about Run of Kuch, is he aware of it or has he got alzhiemer
Now did you not read what i wrote and doed this not represent facts, but to oppose you had to use word like brainwashed etc etc.

Once you strted in Run of Kuch than it was WAR and in wars Pakistan had the right to free Kashmiris. but Kashmir should be an exception to the rule as it is dispuited territory but India India in its cunning ways attacked Lahore and sent fasls videos to the wolrd about Lahore being taken. a balatent lie.

 

[Temojin]

khaan daan ka naam ? muhammad bin qasim ?

muhammad ghori
any body from slave dynasty ?
khilji ?
tughlaq?
lodis?
mughals?


inme se kis khan daan se ho ? remember non of them was chikwa , kassai, nai, dhobi ,darji , choodihar, bhishti,bhangi, faqir ,mangta ,kalandar, madari,bajgar, bhatiyara, . all of these claim to have ruled hindus for the last 1000 years after the partition in 1947.

Ok I tell you.

I am Mirza Temojin bin Mirza Mujahid bin Mirza Rafique bin Mirza Abdul Aziz bin Mirza Sultan who fled from Laal Qal'a to gujarat after the british massacred those who were heirs of throne and he was one of them. Lived in Gujarat for some time, his elder son had a fight with some sikh, he killed him with his sword but others saw the royal seal on the sword, fled to Nabha because British again got after them (after that, the british got complete stability so they didn't interfere) and then the family moved to Kaithal where it lived till partition. Another big name in the sons of Mirza Sultan is Moulana Molvi Mirza Muhammad Nazeer Arshi. My family ruled you people, any problem now? And yes, we all are one family because we are Muslims.

And mates relying on wikipedia for facts is like having an alligator in hand to sew clothes. I don't deny these things but to put all blame upon Pakistani military is ridiculous. It can't ever happen that all the mistakes are at one side as always put on Pakistanis by our so called liberals, intellectuals and the likes. Could be Pakistan at times but not all the time as india's dream of akhand bharat is not hidden and it is there even before Pakistan was created. Yes now we do speak about a greater Muslim state as we believe in Hadith than wikipedia.

 

[awan4ever]

He as an ex Airforce commnader and is not aware of facts, let me put the facts for you desicat, i wish though that your name was something of a human and not an animal. Anyhow here it is.

In 1965 inida started interfering in Run of kuchh and was being beaten when Pakistan saw a big movement of of Indian forces in Kashmir so we took the first step thinking that it should not be like Run of kuchh, besides Kashmir is a disputed territory as per U.N. and we have the right to help Kahmiris,

In 1971 India interfered in east Pakiastan and not only that India had been training Terrorists Mukti Buhini for at least 5 years perior to the war, Mujeeb was a known traiters as he was imprisoned for Agartala sazish but was freed due to pressure by Bhutto at thr time,

Just to enlighten you caty, that from 1947 to 1971 Pakistan was mostly ruled by Bengalis, if you like to know than I shall put a list together of the names of bengali leaders from 1947 to 1971. ruling Pakistan.

So stop talking aboput these cliops that have no significance and are deviod of facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Pakistan

Heres that list.

Starting from 1947 to 1971 there were a total of 4 Bengali PMs.

That makes 24 years. 24*365= 8760 days.
From the list the 4 PMs served a total of = 1808 days.

That makes roughly 20% of 24 years or approx. 5 years of Bengalis in power.


Ok..now you can go ahead and start calling me names and label me RAW agent etc.

 

[modern.fakir]

Well Said ..! (bigsmile) ..These are not ordinary sons ..these are sons of Khalid, Tariq, Tipu & Salauddin (RA for all) we are from them and they were our great ancestors and we will always follow their ways ! (bigsmile)

Jeeay Pakistan...The Pakistan Armed Forces and Forever under the Shadow of Allah swt and My Akka pbuh ! (bigsmile)

Ok I tell you.

I am Mirza Temojin bin Mirza Mujahid bin Mirza Rafique bin Mirza Abdul Aziz bin Mirza Sultan who fled from Laal Qal'a to gujarat after the british massacred those who were heirs of throne and he was one of them. Lived in Gujarat for some time, his elder son had a fight with some sikh, he killed him with his sword but others saw the royal seal on the sword, fled to Nabha because British again got after them (after that, the british got complete stability so they didn't interfere) and then the family moved to Kaithal where it lived till partition. Another big name in the sons of Mirza Sultan is Moulana Molvi Mirza Muhammad Nazeer Arshi. My family ruled you people, any problem now? And yes, we all are one family because we are Muslims.

And mates relying on wikipedia for facts is like having an alligator in hand to sew clothes. I don't deny these things but to put all blame upon Pakistani military is ridiculous. It can't ever happen that all the mistakes are at one side as always put on Pakistanis by our so called liberals, intellectuals and the likes. Could be Pakistan at times but not all the time as india's dream of akhand bharat is not hidden and it is there even before Pakistan was created. Yes now we do speak about a greater Muslim state as we believe in Hadith than wikipedia.

 

[dahashatkush]

Ok I tell you.

I am Mirza Temojin bin Mirza Mujahid bin Mirza Rafique bin Mirza Abdul Aziz bin Mirza Sultan who fled from Laal Qal'a to gujarat after the british massacred those who were heirs of throne and he was one of them. Lived in Gujarat for some time, his elder son had a fight with some sikh, he killed him with his sword but others saw the royal seal on the sword, fled to Nabha because British again got after them (after that, the british got complete stability so they didn't interfere) and then the family moved to Kaithal where it lived till partition. Another big name in the sons of Mirza Sultan is Moulana Molvi Mirza Muhammad Nazeer Arshi. My family ruled you people, any problem now? And yes, we all are one family because we are Muslims.

And mates relying on wikipedia for facts is like having an alligator in hand to sew clothes. I don't deny these things but to put all blame upon Pakistani military is ridiculous. It can't ever happen that all the mistakes are at one side as always put on Pakistanis by our so called liberals, intellectuals and the likes. Could be Pakistan at times but not all the time as india's dream of akhand bharat is not hidden and it is there even before Pakistan was created. Yes now we do speak about a greater Muslim state as we believe in Hadith than wikipedia.

hujoor sarkare do alam jilleelahi temujin bahadur chashmo charagh a daultane sultanat a mughalia ko is mammooli khaadim aur namakhalaal rajpoot ka sajda kabool ho , sarkar ko khud hi pata hai ki fidwio ke khandan apke bujurgo ke jere saye parwarish paate rahe aur apna khoon aur pasina gira kar hujur ke bujurgo ke saamne surkhru hot rahe . sarkar apke bujurgo ne khuda ki rahmat pai aur raj kia ise manane me kisi ko koi etraj nahi hai. hum india ke log muslim saltnato ko bhi apni heritege ka hissa samajhte hai .

lekin sarkar se gujarish hai ki pakistan ke nai, dhobi, darji ,kasai, chikwa, bhisti ,teli tamoli, ghosi,saees,ghasiyara , faqir, mangata, madari, nat, ******, kunjara wagaira wagaira ko to badshah nahi mana ja sakta hai . agar sarkar jyada jor denge to in sab kammi kamino ko 1000 saal ka badshah manane ke bajay apka namak halal suicide kar lega . sarkar i mughlia jindabad.


note . are you descendant of mirza khair sultan ? brother of mirza mughal ?

 

[Unicorn]

You are more brain washed than all Pakistanis as you insist on your version of things which are mostly based on your side and is a lie. but about this Air chief he is not mentioning the fact about Run of Kuch, is he aware of it or has he got alzhiemer
Now did you not read what i wrote and doed this not represent facts, but to oppose you had to use word like brainwashed etc etc.

Once you strted in Run of Kuch than it was WAR and in wars Pakistan had the right to free Kashmiris. but Kashmir should be an exception to the rule as it is dispuited territory but India India in its cunning ways attacked Lahore and sent fasls videos to the wolrd about Lahore being taken. a balatent lie.

He had alzhiemer you say. You got to come up with a different condition this is what alzhiemer is(yapping)(yapping)

Question Mr. Noor what is your name.
Answer : I don't know
(His wife and children in the room) Question Mr. Noor who are these people
Answer: I don't know.
Question : Mr. Noor what did you do for living
Answer : I don't know
[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

 

[xshadow]

Keep singing your glories but the fact is that you were the looser than and are still a looser.

Why Shastari died in Tashkant?? Heart attack. People die of it sitting on the toilet- Why?

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[only_truths]

Hindu's mostly have Buddhist ancestors too you dumbass so why don't you convert back to that faith!? Stupid ignorant donkey!(cry)

Jhoot bolne ka hadh hota hai?

You truely do need a history lesson.

Lagta hai ki Pakistan mein History khub paathei hain?

 

[Imranpak]

Jhoot bolne ka hadh hota hai?



Lagta hai ki Pakistan mein History khub paathei hain?

Jhoot tho Hindustanio ke khoon mein hai like how Pakistani terrorists who were sitting in Lahore had entered Mumbai!!:lol:

Tumhare schoolo mein Bharat ka ithihaas yeh sakahte hein that the country extends to Afghanistan and the Middle East with your silly claims of Ashoka and Akhand Bharat!!(clap) No wonder the Moghul's kicked your *** for centuries!(clap)
:P

 

[only_truths]

In the battlefield India lost the war but in "Tashkent Agreement" General Ayub Khan with his foreign minister
Z.A. Bhutto gave lot of concessions to India and that was the reason of downfall of Mr. Ayub Khan. .

If India lost the war, why would Ayub Khan and Bhutto gave a lot of concessions? Did you ask yourself this question? If Bhutto was part of the agreement, why he became PM after Ayub Khan?

Both the countries were agree to solve the problems through peaceful means but no plebiscite took place in Kashmir rather Bangladesh was created through Indra Ghandhis foul policies by creating Muktibhani, backyard interference in East Pakistan.

Kashmir plebiscite was never part of Tashkent agreement, why do you imply peaceful means to plebiscite?

Bangladesh was created not by the foul policies of Indira but by the arrogant behavior of Pakistani Punjabi politicians and Army not to allow a democratically elected Mujibir to lead the Country.

My openion and general view of the public in both countries. We never got independence from white masters. That is why general public is very poor in both countries.

My opinion is that India got independence and still enjoying it, while Pakistan is still trying to get Independence from India ?

 

[khanpanni]

If India lost the war, why would Ayub Khan and Bhutto gave a lot of concessions? Did you ask yourself this question? If Bhutto was part of the agreement, why he became PM after Ayub Khan?Kashmir plebiscite was never part of Tashkent agreement, why do you imply peaceful means to plebiscite? Bangladesh was created not by the foul policies of Indira but by the arrogant behavior of Pakistani Punjabi politicians and Army not to allow a democratically elected Mujibir to lead the Country.My opinion is that India got independence and still enjoying it, while Pakistan is still trying to get Independence from India ?

I have selected these videos for you and for your friends Rajiv Dixit's from your country about independence what you are enjoying ?

Your great leader Mathma Ghandi was not in New Dehli on independence day he was in Noakhali, Why ?

So this is your independence and further about your economy and trade ?Rajiv Dixit's Expose of Manmohan Singh as America's Agent 2

 

[dahashatkush]

Most of all Pakistani .. at one time in History were Hindu .... agree?

Have some respect for your forefathers.

hindu kaun hindu ?

aajkal ke sabhi pakistani arabian hai , i mean sabhi ke baap arab se loot paat aur islam phailane aye the aur yahi ki jananio se shadi vagaira kar ke pakistani paida karne lage hai. agar koi kahta hai ke woh hindu the to woh raw ka agent ya koi shaitani taqat yani dajjal hai.ya qadiani bhi ho sakta hai.