دجال کے آنے کا زمانہ ؟ پروفیسر رفیق اختر

RustamShah

Banned

دجال ايک نظام نہيں ايک آدمي ہے جسے چند صحابہ کرام نے ديکھا بھي ہے
احاديث مبارکہ کے بارے ميں شبہات نہ پيدا کرو احاديث مبارکہ بلکل برحق ہيں

What is the source of such nonsense stories mentioned in 'Hadiths' ? Stories of Dajj-al are fabricated stories and they sounds like Fairy tales stories, perhaps like Harry Potter of modern times. Do you want to say that the Most Intelligent Man on Earth who was chosen from God as his Last Messenger, would utter such nonsense ? These stories were created by later days so called Mullahs and scholars of time to support a certain Political or religous system or group and has nothing to do with reality. If Quran is silent about this stupid Dajja-al then it has no value for me and this so called Man will never appear because he exists only in 'stories' !
 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What is the source of such nonsense stories mentioned in 'Hadiths' ? Stories of Dajj-al are fabricated stories and they sounds like Fairy tales stories, perhaps like Harry Potter of modern times. Do you want to say that the Most Intelligent Man on Earth who was chosen from God as his Last Messenger, would utter such nonsense ? These stories were created by later days so called Mullahs and scholars of time to support a certain Political or religous system or group and has nothing to do with reality. If Quran is silent about this stupid Dajja-al then it has no value for me and this so called Man will never appear because he exists only in 'stories' !

قرآن ميں تو نماز کا طريقہ بھي نہيں ہے تو پھر تم نماز کس طرح پڑھو گے
 

RustamShah

Banned

قرآن ميں تو نماز کا طريقہ بھي نہيں ہے تو پھر تم نماز کس طرح پڑھو گے

How you know that you HAVE to offer Salah ? like you said, there is no mention of offering Salah in Quran and Hadiths are bogus false stories, written by some Drunk, idiots for people like you who can believe just anything. Instead of looking the matter logically, for you its totally okay to accept an stupid thing, just because its 'mentioned' in Hadiths ! I can give you many examples of such nonsense but give you a single peace of evidence for such nonsense.

"Bukhari :: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616 ::

Narrated Abu Huraira ::


Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. THIS IS WAS WHAT ALLAH REFERS TO IN HIS SAYING:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
"

Yea right, Prophet Moses had to run naked just because Allah Nauzbillah wanted to show that His testicals were just fine ! Do you really in your right mind, want to accept and believe that Most Intelligent Man on Earth, who was Chosen as God Last Messenger, would utter such nonsense about a mighty Prophet of God ?
 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How you know that you HAVE to offer Salah ? like you said, there is no mention of offering Salah in Quran and Hadiths are bogus false stories, written by some Drunk, idiots for people like you who can believe just anything. Instead of looking the matter logically, for you its totally okay to accept an stupid thing, just because its 'mentioned' in Hadiths ! I can give you many examples of such nonsense but give you a single peace of evidence for such nonsense.

"Bukhari :: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616 ::

Narrated Abu Huraira ::


Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. THIS IS WAS WHAT ALLAH REFERS TO IN HIS SAYING:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
"

Yea right, Prophet Moses had to run naked just because Allah Nauzbillah wanted to show that His testicals were just fine ! Do you really in your right mind, want to accept and believe that Most Intelligent Man on Earth, who was Chosen as God Last Messenger, would utter such nonsense about a mighty Prophet of God ?

اگر تمھارے مفروضے کو مان ليا جائے تو تم تو مسلمان ہي نہيں ہو کيونکہ تمھارے خيال ميں نعوذباللہ اللہ اپنے دين کي حفاظت نہ کرسکا کيونکہ شريعت تو قرآن و حديث کا نام ہے اور اگر قرآن و حديث ہي محفوظ نہ ہوئے تو تم تک دين اسلام نہ پہنچا نعوذ باللہ ثم نعوذباللہ
 

RustamShah

Banned

اگر تمھارے مفروضے کو مان ليا جائے تو تم تو مسلمان ہي نہيں ہو کيونکہ تمھارے خيال ميں نعوذباللہ اللہ اپنے دين کي حفاظت نہ کرسکا کيونکہ شريعت تو قرآن و حديث کا نام ہے اور اگر قرآن و حديث ہي محفوظ نہ ہوئے تو تم تک دين اسلام نہ پہنچا نعوذ باللہ ثم نعوذباللہ

Rest assure that you can not decide about my faith because first of all I don't give you that much importance and 2ndly who is Muslim or not its the decision of God, not yours so keep your opinion to yourself. Now to the question of God Nauzbillah could not protect Sharia, who told you that "Hadiths" were part of Sharia ? where did you learn this ? and where did I say Allah Nauzbillah could not protect Quran ? Do you have reading problems ?
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
why rafiq akhtar said that djal will emerge from khurasan?when a sahih hadeeth says that djal will emerge from iran?is rafeeq akhtar also infected with irani sects love?lol

Ans bin Malik said that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said "Seventy thousand of the people of Isfahan (a city in Iran) will follow the dejjal (when he emerges), wearing Tayalisa (type of hoods or turbans)." ( Sahih Muslim)

this hadeeth means that first followers of dejal will be from isfahan from where he will emerge.and by 70 thousand it means that the number of dajals followers will be countless.70 thousand is a term in arabic meaning a very large number (not meaning eactly 70 thousand).like in urdu we say that falaan jaloos was so big that it had lakhs of people
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Rest assure that you can not decide about my faith because first of all I don't give you that much importance and 2ndly who is Muslim or not its the decision of God, not yours so keep your opinion to yourself. Now to the question of God Nauzbillah could not protect Sharia, who told you that "Hadiths" were part of Sharia ? where did you learn this ? and where did I say Allah Nauzbillah could not protect Quran ? Do you have reading problems ?

but your fiqahs top imams say that quran had 40 chapters.10 of which were hidden by sahaba (nauzubilah )or eaten by a goat.why you people lie so much?this is a well known fact.no one can deny that.why you say one thing in front of sunnis and other when sitting admist your own sect.see which people do that!qurans first 50 ayats totaly expose people who have such two faces
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

اگر تمھارے مفروضے کو مان ليا جائے تو تم تو مسلمان ہي نہيں ہو کيونکہ تمھارے خيال ميں نعوذباللہ اللہ اپنے دين کي حفاظت نہ کرسکا کيونکہ شريعت تو قرآن و حديث کا نام ہے اور اگر قرآن و حديث ہي محفوظ نہ ہوئے تو تم تک دين اسلام نہ پہنچا نعوذ باللہ ثم نعوذباللہ
this guy shah is openly saying that muslims most holy and most sahih book after quran (i e sahih bukhari) is a lie nauzubilah!and no one banned him.this shows our love for islam these days!
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How you know that you HAVE to offer Salah ? like you said, there is no mention of offering Salah in Quran and Hadiths are bogus false stories, written by some Drunk, idiots for people like you who can believe just anything. Instead of looking the matter logically, for you its totally okay to accept an stupid thing, just because its 'mentioned' in Hadiths ! I can give you many examples of such nonsense but give you a single peace of evidence for such nonsense.

"Bukhari :: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616 ::

Narrated Abu Huraira ::


Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. THIS IS WAS WHAT ALLAH REFERS TO IN HIS SAYING:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
"

Yea right, Prophet Moses had to run naked just because Allah Nauzbillah wanted to show that His testicals were just fine ! Do you really in your right mind, want to accept and believe that Most Intelligent Man on Earth, who was Chosen as God Last Messenger, would utter such nonsense about a mighty Prophet of God ?



how dare you attack muslims most holy book.you people openly worship horse and i already shared a video where prominent shia zaakir openly said the following things.anyone can search on net for authenticity of these.shia head zaakir said that


  • Shia zakir says:-

    1. Pakistan has been gifted by zuljina (shiite horse), because 11 sons of grand mother of Mr Jinnah (founder of Pakistan) died but 12th son survived, since he was gifted by zuljina, had it not been, there wouldn't be any Muslim League, quaid e azam and Pakistan. So therefore Pakistan has not been gifted by Allah, rather its the sadqa (charity) of zuljina

    2. All Pakistanis should bow their heads and do sajda at the feet of zuljina (horse)

    3. Those who claim that Pakistan was gifted by Allah, they lie. Pakistan has been gifted by the horse

    4. Pakistan means zuljina and ya hussain​



 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
what times have come that a deviant group who openly worships a smelly horse criticise the faith of muslims!may Allah not give you deviants more time!fitna has reached its peak i guess
 

gaozaban

MPA (400+ posts)
دجال ، کون، کب، کہاں ۔ مصنف: مفتی ابو لبابہ شاہ منصور۔
یہ کتاب پڑھیں سب پتا چل جائے گا۔
 

gaozaban

MPA (400+ posts)
How you know that you HAVE to offer Salah ? like you said, there is no mention of offering Salah in Quran and Hadiths are bogus false stories, written by some Drunk, idiots for people like you who can believe just anything. Instead of looking the matter logically, for you its totally okay to accept an stupid thing, just because its 'mentioned' in Hadiths ! I can give you many examples of such nonsense but give you a single peace of evidence for such nonsense.

"Bukhari :: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616 ::

Narrated Abu Huraira ::


Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. THIS IS WAS WHAT ALLAH REFERS TO IN HIS SAYING:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
"

Yea right, Prophet Moses had to run naked just because Allah Nauzbillah wanted to show that His testicals were just fine ! Do you really in your right mind, want to accept and believe that Most Intelligent Man on Earth, who was Chosen as God Last Messenger, would utter such nonsense about a mighty Prophet of God ?


Lets have a glance at Al-Kafi:
Alkafi is the MOST reliable Shia Book, as the reliable Shia Scholars said and declared . Its author is Thiqat al-Islam Muhamad Ibn Yaqoob AlKileeni ( a VERY reliable Shia Scholar, died in 328 H ) . Alkafi is a collection of Hadiths attributed to the prophet Muhamad p.b.u.h and The Infallible Imams -according to Shia- and like AhlSunnah, who give much importance to their Hadith book ( Saheeh AlBukhari ), Shia give the same or maybe even more importance to their Book ( Alkafi ) . Unlike AhlSunnah who call AlBukhari's Book as ( Saheeh AlBukhari ), Shia do not call Alkafi as ( Saheeh AlKafi ), nevertheless, Shia treat AlKafi as it is ( Saheeh ) and their most reliable scholars declare it as a ( Saheeh ) .

* Here are some of the Shia most reliable Scholars' sayings about AlKafi :

* Here are some of the Shia most reliable Scholars' sayings about AlKafi :

[1] AlHur Al'amily said " The authors of the Four Books of shia ( Alkafi , AlIstibsaar , AlTahzeeb , Mun La YahDuruHu Alfaqeeh ) have testified that the Hadiths of their books are accurate (saheeh) , firm and well conducted from the roots that all shia agreed on , and if you consider those scholars ( the authors of the four books ) are reliable then you must accept their sayings and their narrations . " [ Alwasa'el , volume 20 , page 104 ]

[2] Sharaf'Deen AbdulHussain Mosawy said : " Alkafi , AlIsTibSaar , AlTahzeeb and Mun La YahduRuHu Alfaqeeh are *MutawaTirah* and agreed on the acuraty of its contents ( the Hadiths ) , and Alkafi is the oldest , greatest , best and the most accurate one of them " . [ The book of AlMuraja'aat , Muraj'ah number 110 ] ..... MutawaTirah = accurate 100% because it was narrated by many narrators .

[3] Muhammad Sadiq AlSaDr said : " Although The Shia are on the unanimity of that The four books ( Alkafi , AlIsTibSaar , AlTahzeeb and Mun La YahduRuHu Alfaqeeh ) are accepted and *all* the narrations in them are accurate ( Saheeh ), But they did not call them by the name ( Sihaah ) like AhlSunnah did ." . [ The Book of shia "Kitab alshia" page 127 ]

[4] AlTabRassy said : " Alkafi among the four shia books ( AlTahzeeb , Alkafi , AlIsTibSar , mun la YahDuruhu Alfaqeeh ) is like the sun among the stars , and who looked fairly would not need to notice the position of the men in the chain of hadiths in this Book , and if you looked fairly you would feel satisfied and sure that the hadiths are firm and accurate . " [ MusTaDrak AlWasa'el , volume 3 , page 532 ]

[5] AlKhomeini said : " Do you think it is enough for our religious life to have its laws summed up in AlKafi and then placed upon a shelf?" [ Al-Hukumah Al-Islamiyyah page 72 ]

Now, I think each and everyone of us is interested to know what this Book ( Alkafi ) contains, the book that made all those Shia Scholars praise it and recommend it, actually even blamed their followers for not applying more effort of studying and research as AlKhomeini said in his book ( Al-Hukumah Al-Islamiyyah page 72 ) !! .

* EXAMPLES of the CONTENTS of AlKafi :

[1] Chapter: The Imams have knowledge of All that was given to the angels and the prophets. ( AlKafi vol.1 p.255 )

[2] Chapter: The Imams know when they will die, and they only die by their choice. ( AlKafi vol.1 p.258 )

[3] Chapter: The Imams have knowledge of the past and future; and nothing is hidden from them. ( AlKafi vol.1 p.260 )

COMMENT: No doubt that these words are clear Kufr (Disbelief) and Shirk (Polytheism), because the knowledge of the unseen is only for Allah alone .. These words with no doubt countradict what Allah said in Surah Luqmaan "Verily, Allah With Him (Alone) is the knowledge of the Hour, He sends down the rain, and knows that which is in the wombs. No person knows what he will earn tommorow, and no person knows in what land he will die. Verily, Allah is All-Knower, All-Aware (of things)" [Quran 31:34]
 

RustamShah

Banned
but your fiqahs top imams say that quran had 40 chapters.10 of which were hidden by sahaba (nauzubilah )or eaten by a goat.why you people lie so much?this is a well known fact.no one can deny that.why you say one thing in front of sunnis and other when sitting admist your own sect.see which people do that!qurans first 50 ayats totaly expose people who have such two faces

Lol.. another idiot, My dear drkjke or Dr. Kharjee .. I am fortunate, that I do not belong to any "fiqah" !! I use my brain where you just keep believing old fairy tales stories, now I have seen the level of your intelligence, its not a surprise any more to see the "Bongian" you were making were all symtoms of your low IQ. Go ahead and wait for your Master Dajj-al and "when" he comes then lick his shoes !
 

Joker

Minister (2k+ posts)
Lol.. another idiot, My dear drkjke or Dr. Kharjee .. I am fortunate, that I do not belong to any "fiqah" !! I use my brain where you just keep believing old fairy tales stories, now I have seen the level of your intelligence, its not a surprise any more to see the "Bongian" you were making were all symtoms of your low IQ. Go ahead and wait for your Master Dajj-al and "when" he comes then lick his shoes !

What is your say about 40 chapters of Quran and 10 chapters were eaten by goats. Mr Genius ?????
 

RustamShah

Banned
What is your say about 40 chapters of Quran and 10 chapters were eaten by goats. Mr Genius ?????

You should ask a Shia about it, why are you asking me ? For me its as stupid as one can imagine, did not you read above ? I don't believe your and their fairy tales stories. Now that you have asked, please tell me what you say about a Stone taking Prophet Moses cloths and running, where Prophet Moses running after him totally naked ? [hilar]
 

Joker

Minister (2k+ posts)
You should ask a Shia about it, why are you asking me ? For me its as stupid as one can imagine, did not you read above ? I don't believe your and their fairy tales stories. Now that you have asked, please tell me what you say about a Stone taking Prophet Moses cloths and running, where Prophet Moses running after him totally naked ? [hilar]

Would you like to give a reference for this stone story ??? I never heard about this .
 

RustamShah

Banned
Would you like to give a reference for this stone story ??? I never heard about this .

Sure ..

Bukhari :: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616 ::

Narrated Abu Huraira ::


Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. THIS IS WAS WHAT ALLAH REFERS TO IN HIS SAYING:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
 

Joker

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sure ..

Bukhari :: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616 ::

Narrated Abu Huraira ::


Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. THIS IS WAS WHAT ALLAH REFERS TO IN HIS SAYING:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)

So what is the point of joke in this , Thats perfect and logical until and unless you have devil's brain
 

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