ایک بھارتی نے سچ بول کر سارے پاکستانیوں کا سر شرم سے جھکا دیا

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ایک بھارتی نے سچ بول کر سارے پاکستانیوں کا سر شرم سے جھکا دیا​

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BlackBirdSSG

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
When your politics has:
  • No economic success to show
  • No clean governance
  • No real ideology
... the only option left for scums is to stoop to filth, gossip, and humiliation tactics.
It means you’ve lost the argument, and now you're trying to win by destroying the opponent as a human being. Exactly what Israelis do to Palestinians. This isn’t just anti-Imran, this is anti-human.

Ironically, these are the same degenerative Patwari trolls who:
  • Call critics “anti-state”
  • Claim to be defenders of "Pakistani sovereignty"
Yet now they have to take support of claims from Indian "unverified: sources, the very country they otherwise claim is an "enemy." Why? Just to humiliate their political opponent. So the logic is: "Modi bad, but Indian propaganda okay if it's anti-Imran"? That’s not political rivalry, that’s moral decay.... a new depth of political degeneracy, and frankly, a reflection of how morally bankrupt parts of the PMLN troll machine have become.

And even if we take it as remotely true, even implying that someone was sexually assaulted, and then mocking it or using it for political point-scoring is not just unethical, it’s dehumanizing. It violates every human rights principle, and sets a horrifying precedent in political discourse. Doesn't matter who the victim is, Imran Khan, children of Sharifs (i.e. Maryam Safdar) or children of Bhutt'dari's (i.e. Bilawal Bhutt'dari) or anyone else, rape is not a meme, not a joke, and not a political tool.

Just imagine if the roles were reversed (and surely, they will) and such claims were being mocked about anyone from other parties, then civil society, liberal commentators and human rights watchdogs would be screaming their lungs out through the rooftop. But right now? Radio silence. This selective morality is exactly why no one take Pakistan's "human rights" slogans seriously anymore.
 
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pinionated

Minister (2k+ posts)
When your politics has:
  • No economic success to show
  • No clean governance
  • No real ideology
... the only option left for scums is to stoop to filth, gossip, and humiliation tactics.
It means you’ve lost the argument, and now you're trying to win by destroying the opponent as a human being. Exactly what Israelis do to Palestinians. This isn’t just anti-Imran, this is anti-human.

Ironically, these are the same degenerative Patwari trolls who:
  • Call critics “anti-state”
  • Claim to be defenders of "Pakistani sovereignty"
Yet now they have to take support of claims from Indian "unverified: sources, the very country they otherwise claim is an "enemy." Why? Just to humiliate their political opponent. So the logic is: "Modi bad, but Indian propaganda okay if it's anti-Imran"? That’s not political rivalry, that’s moral decay.... a new depth of political degeneracy, and frankly, a reflection of how morally bankrupt parts of the PMLN troll machine have become.

And even if we take it as remotely true, even implying that someone was sexually assaulted, and then mocking it or using it for political point-scoring is not just unethical, it’s dehumanizing. It violates every human rights principle, and sets a horrifying precedent in political discourse. Doesn't matter who the victim is, Imran Khan, children of Sharifs (i.e. Maryam Safdar) or children of Bhutt'dari's (i.e. Bilawal Bhutt'dari) or anyone else, rape is not a meme, not a joke, and not a political tool.

Just imagine if the roles were reversed (and surely, they will) and such claims were being mocked about anyone from other parties, then civil society, liberal commentators and human rights watchdogs would be screaming their lungs out through the rooftop. But right now? Radio silence. This selective morality is exactly why no one take Pakistan's "human rights" slogans seriously anymore.
There r a lot of sickos on this forum… some paid, some with personal hate, some just psychos… Raja ji is one of them… best is to ignore their depravity
 

BlackBirdSSG

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
There r a lot of sickos on this forum… some paid, some with personal hate, some just psychos… Raja ji is one of them… best is to ignore their depravity

Ignoring is one way. I tend to spot their Breed, Not All Trolls Are the Same. I categorize them in 3:

a) Paid propagandists -> Operate in herds, use same talking points, quote "sources" that only exist in Naya Narrativeistan.
b) Party fanatics -> Emotionally blinded, not paid, but fully programmed.
c) Low-IQ mockers -> Just there to insult, get laughs, or farm likes.

🧠 Treatment varies. Paid trolls deserve public embarrassment, fanatics deserve exposure, mockers deserve the mute button.

These ones are Category C. So, you're spot on.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Ignoring is one way. I tend to spot their Breed, Not All Trolls Are the Same. I categorize them in 3:

a) Paid propagandists -> Operate in herds, use same talking points, quote "sources" that only exist in Naya Narrativeistan.
b) Party fanatics -> Emotionally blinded, not paid, but fully programmed.
c) Low-IQ mockers -> Just there to insult, get laughs, or farm likes.

🧠 Treatment varies. Paid trolls deserve public embarrassment, fanatics deserve exposure, mockers deserve the mute button.

These ones are Category C. So, you're spot on.
You need to do some more research. There is a 4th category as well (if you'd like to acknowledge) --The ones who had been ill treated for their cynicism of Imran Khan's decisions like Buzdar and Co. by the Fanboys of Imran Khan and the usual trolls of PTI.

It remains a fact that PTI has been damaged more by such imbecile and emotionally charged persona worshipers, for whom Khan is even above Pakistan.

Some people now just are paying back what they received from the PTI trolls. That is the 4th category. Now you may name this category as you deem fit.

So, either try to instill some sense into the PTI bandwagon that anyone has a right and should be respected for their views, if they are poised enough and show a genuine concern for the country, even if it means questioning and/or criticizing Imran Khan's decision. If we want to grow into a civilized nation.

Or, just make them realize that their bashing is just only a reaction of what they have been doing all along.
 
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BlackBirdSSG

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Ah, this newly born fourth category... this classic "victim-turned-vigilante" justification.

The "Mujhe Buzdar pasand nahi tha, is liye ab main rape jokes, Indian propaganda aur establishment theories endorse karunga" gang.

Listen! Criticism Buzdar pe karo, Faisal Vidwa pe karo, heck Khan ke u-turns pe bhi karo, no one sensible ever had an issue with that. Problem tab hoti hai jab criticism character assassination ban jaye, aur political discourse meme factory mein tabdeel ho jaye.

You say PTI trolls were harsh? Zaroor honege. Shayed pehlay bhi thay aur aaj bhi hain. But aaj ke aap logon ki justification kya hai? "Unho ne kiya tha, to ab hum bhi karenge." Matlab sab ka goal ek hi hai? Toxic cycle maintain karna? Phir kya farq reh gaya tum mein aur un mein? You're basically an extension of their branch. So, when you call anyone else "Youthiya", you're actually giving your own definition.

You call this "payback"? Nope. I simply call it emotional regression. You want to grow into a civilized nation? Then cycle of revenge se pehle apni side ka clean-up shuru karo. Fanaticism sirf ek camp mein nahi hoti, aur agar tum genuinely ‘Category D’ ho, to phir Category C ke behavior mein ghusna tumhari hypocrisy hai.

So haan, maybe let’s name this 4th category ... “The Vindictive Enlightened”, jo khud ko logical samajh kar "PTI fanboys" (using same term you regularly use to make you understand how absurd your logic is) ke level pe descend karte hain, sirf revenge ka nasha nikalne ke liye. Aisay logon se na mulk sudharta hai, na debate, aur na hee koi war jeeti jaa sakti hai.
 

BlackBirdSSG

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
You need to do some more research. There is a 4th category as well (if you'd like to acknowledge) --The ones who had been ill treated for their cynicism of Imran Khan's decisions like Buzdar and Co. by the Fanboys of Imran Khan and the usual trolls of PTI.

It remains a fact that PTI has been damaged more by such imbecile and emotionally charged persona worshipers, for whom Khan is even above Pakistan.

Some people now just are paying back what they received from the PTI trolls. That is the 4th category. Now you may name this category as you deem fit.

So, either try to instill some sense into the PTI bandwagon that anyone has a right and should be respected for their views, if they are poised enough and show a genuine concern for the country, even if it means questioning and/or criticizing Imran Khan's decision. If we want to grow into a civilized nation.

Or, just make them realize that their bashing is just only a reaction of what they have been doing all along.
Ah, this newly born fourth category... this classic "victim-turned-vigilante" justification.

The "Mujhe Buzdar pasand nahi tha, is liye ab main rape jokes, Indian propaganda aur establishment theories endorse karunga" gang.

Listen! Criticism Buzdar pe karo, Faisal Vidwa pe karo, heck Khan ke u-turns pe bhi karo, no one sensible ever had an issue with that. Problem tab hoti hai jab criticism character assassination ban jaye, aur political discourse meme factory mein tabdeel ho jaye.

You say PTI trolls were harsh? Zaroor honege. Shayed pehlay bhi thay aur aaj bhi hain. But aaj ke aap logon ki justification kya hai? "Unho ne kiya tha, to ab hum bhi karenge." Matlab sab ka goal ek hi hai? Toxic cycle maintain karna? Phir kya farq reh gaya tum mein aur un mein? You're basically an extension of their branch. So, when you call anyone else "Youthiya", you're actually giving your own definition.

You call this "payback"? Nope. I simply call it emotional regression. You want to grow into a civilized nation? Then cycle of revenge se pehle apni side ka clean-up shuru karo. Fanaticism sirf ek camp mein nahi hoti, aur agar tum genuinely ‘Category D’ ho, to phir Category C ke behavior mein ghusna tumhari hypocrisy hai.

So haan, maybe let’s name this 4th category ... “The Vindictive Enlightened”, jo khud ko logical samajh kar "PTI fanboys" (using same term you regularly use to make you understand how absurd your logic is) ke level pe descend karte hain, sirf revenge ka nasha nikalne ke liye. Aisay logon se na mulk sudharta hai, na debate, aur na hee koi war jeeti jaa sakti hai.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Listen! Criticism Buzdar pe karo, Faisal Vidwa pe karo, heck Khan ke u-turns pe bhi karo, no one sensible ever had an issue with that. Problem tab hoti hai jab criticism character assassination ban jaye, aur political discourse meme factory mein tabdeel ho jaye.
I have been here for over a decade now. You can go and see my and the OPs debates over our matters of difference and quote me any point where me or him got abusive towards each other. I, being on the other side of the table (not supporting PMLN/PPP) have always respected his right of freedom of association and he has always been very respectful towards me too. The proof is in the pudding --The debates are all over the forum.

That is the main dilemma from which 99% of PTI is suffering. They regularized the terms "Ferrari, Gairajan, Diesel..." and what not... and now are asking for a bargain which they were never really ready to give to the other side?

Listen: The best way to solve a problem is to first acknowledge that there exists one.

You can keep living in your state of denial, but that won't change the reality and also will not prevent any further damage, received due to this problem. This trend only rouses rage (as it enrages you here) and has never proven to be effective in instilling any sense into anybody.

RESPECT IS A TWO WAY STREET
 

Modest

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dangar Patwari gashtion ki aulad hai. Inn haramion ko apne asli baap ka bhi nahi pata isliye peso k liye ye apne bhagwan Nawaz gandoo ki pooja karte hai aur Imran khan jese azeem insan par bhonkte hai.


 

Islamabadiya

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You need to do some more research. There is a 4th category as well (if you'd like to acknowledge) --The ones who had been ill treated for their cynicism of Imran Khan's decisions like Buzdar and Co. by the Fanboys of Imran Khan and the usual trolls of PTI.

It remains a fact that PTI has been damaged more by such imbecile and emotionally charged persona worshipers, for whom Khan is even above Pakistan.

Some people now just are paying back what they received from the PTI trolls. That is the 4th category. Now you may name this category as you deem fit.

So, either try to instill some sense into the PTI bandwagon that anyone has a right and should be respected for their views, if they are poised enough and show a genuine concern for the country, even if it means questioning and/or criticizing Imran Khan's decision. If we want to grow into a civilized nation.

Or, just make them realize that their bashing is just only a reaction of what they have been doing all along.

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