اسلامی کلینڈر پر غور کریں

[billo786]

سال کے آخری مہینے بھی قربانی
پہلا مہینہ بھی قربانی
وہ بھی دس١٠ کو
یہ بھی دس١٠ کو
اُن پے بھی درود
اِن پر بھی درود
وہ بھی نبی کا لال
یہ بھی نبی کا لال
اُن کی یاد بھی مناتے ہیں
اِن کی یاد بھی مناتے ہیں
وہ ذبح العظیم
یہ شہید العظیم
اُن کی یاد سنت
اِن پے رونا سنت
اُنہوں کی خواب نبھایا
اِنہوں نے وعدہِ طفل نبھایا
وہ صبر کی ابتدا
یہ صبر کی انتہا
وہ کعبہ کو بنانے والے
یہ کعبہ کو بچانے والے



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[behzadji]

Haqqa ke bina-e-lailah hast Hussain(Radhi Allah Unhu)..............

 

[such bolo]

سال کے آخری مہینے بھی قربانی
پہلا مہینہ بھی قربانی
'
Saal k saarey maheeney hee qurabani ka takaazaa kertey hien..... pehla aur akhri hee nahi...Muslamaanoo ki taareekh qurbaniyo se bhari pari hai (Ghzwa e Bader bhi perhlien)... Hazrat Husein (raziallahu anhu) ki qurbani onhee qurbaniyo ka tasalsul hai....
'
وہ بھی دس١٠ کو
یہ بھی دس١٠ کو​

Is coincident se kuch sabit nahi hota.​

اُن پے بھی درود
اِن پر بھی درود​

be shuk​

وہ بھی نبی کا لال
یہ بھی نبی کا لال​

be shuk​

اُن کی یاد بھی مناتے ہیں
اِن کی یاد بھی مناتے ہیں​

Yaad mananey k liye kisi din ko specify kerna Allah aur os k Nabi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) ka huq hai...insaano ko ye ikhtiyar nahi k wo apni teref se yadon k din makhsoos kertey phirien..... Allah k Nabi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) ki zindagi mien Hazrat Hamza (raziallahu anhu) ki shahdet ka din kareeben 8 dafa aayaa meger Allah k nabi (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) ne os din ko matam nahi kiya....Alhamdulillah​

وہ ذبح العظیم
یہ شہید العظیم​

be shuk meger deeger Sahaba (rizwanullah e ajmain) ki shahadet ko kisi terha se bhi kamter nahi samjhaa jaa sakta....​

اُن کی یاد سنت
اِن پے رونا سنت​

In pe roona biddet aur Islami taleemaat k bilkul khilaaf...​

اُنہوں کی خواب نبھایا
اِنہوں نے وعدہِ طفل نبھایا​

donon ne Allah ki ataa'at aur farman bardari ki....aur yahee inki zindagi ka nasbul ain thaa....apnee teref se deen takhleeq nahi kiya.​

وہ صبر کی ابتدا
یہ صبر کی انتہا​

meger hum maatem ker k inkey saber ka mazaak uraatey hien...​

وہ کعبہ کو بنانے والے
یہ کعبہ کو بچانے والے​

jaisey k pehley kaha Hazrat Husein (raziallahu anhu) ki Qurbani Sahaba (rizwanullah e ajmain) ki qurbaniyo ka tasalsul hai..​

Islam ko laffazi ki zarorat nahi balkey haqeeqee maanoo mien amal aur tehqeeq ki zarorat hai...wassalam

 

[sarbakaf]

Islam ko laffazi ki zarorat nahi balkey haqeeqee maanoo mien amal aur tehqeeq ki zarorat hai...wassalam

agar lafzoon ke zaroorat nahi to u bhai aaisee lifazi kayoon kartay hoo

 

[Raaz]

Islam ko laffazi ki zarorat nahi balkey haqeeqee maanoo mien amal aur tehqeeq ki zarorat hai...wassalam

Islam does not need liars...

how U could not compare a Shaheed with others.

 

[atensari]

رہ گئی رسم اذاں روح بلالی نہ رہی
فلسفہ رہ گیا، تلقین غزالی نہ رہی​

 

[QaiserMirza]

اس لفاظی سے کیا مقصد حاصل ہوتا ہے

 

[shah5ap]

Gar Lahmaka lahmi yea Hadise Nabawi hay.
Bay Swale Alla Naam lena be adabi hay.

 

[Raaz]

?? ????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??

Very strange , just for the favour of Yazeed ?

The word have power. Quran is full of words.

It is very true, except
??? ?? ??? ???
??? ?? ???? ???

Listen to this Molana,

 

[Raaz]

Sidq-e-Khalil Bhi hay ishqe sabr-e-Husayn bhi hay ishq
Mrika-e-wujud maiyn Badr-o-Hunayn bhi hay ishq

Gharib-o-sāda-o-rangi’n hay dāstān-e-Haram
Nihāyat iski Husayn ibtida hay Ismāil

Allama Iqbal.

 

[babadeena]

سال کے آخری مہینے بھی قربانی
پہلا مہینہ بھی قربانی
وہ بھی دس١٠ کو
یہ بھی دس١٠ کو
اُن پے بھی درود
اِن پر بھی درود
وہ بھی نبی کا لال
یہ بھی نبی کا لال
اُن کی یاد بھی مناتے ہیں
اِن کی یاد بھی مناتے ہیں
وہ ذبح العظیم
یہ شہید العظیم
اُن کی یاد سنت
اِن پے رونا سنت
اُنہوں کی خواب نبھایا
اِنہوں نے وعدہِ طفل نبھایا
وہ صبر کی ابتدا
یہ صبر کی انتہا
وہ کعبہ کو بنانے والے
یہ کعبہ کو بچانے والے


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OK, the connection has been joined with Ibrahim(as) and Ismail(as). A beautiful Nazam has been written and
presented. So what Allah has ordained about Ibrahim and Ismail(as) is as follows:
Or were ye present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons: What
will ye worship after me? They said: We shall worship thy God, the God of
thy fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, One God, and unto Him we have surrendered.
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/ps01/ch01v.html#133
Those are a people who have passed away. Theirs is that which they earned, and
yours is that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do.
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/ps01/ch01v.html#134

Now Allah is giving clear-cut Command that do not worry about them, you will not be asked what they used to do.
THIS IS MY CHALLENGE TO ALL READERS, apply this principle to those personalities also and do not make
differences over those personalities. Otherwise your poetry and conduct is of no value at all.

 

[farazkhii]

Is post ko tum laffazi kehte ho, Hussain ki qurbani tumhain qurbani lagti hai wah, jis ka pura khandan khatam hogaya, jab keh sab pata tha keh kiya hone wala hai, aur aisi qurbani kahan nazer aai tumhain Ghazwa-e-Badar mein, ya hazrat Ibrahim ki qurbani mein???? Hussain ki qurbani ko kisi aur qurbani se mila kar dekho to sahe sahe tarhan. Nabi (S.A.W.) ne matam nahe kiya laken aur kai jagah matam hoa hai, Nabi ko takleef mein dekh keh bhi apne jism se khoon nikala gaya hai aur Nabi (S.A.W.) ne kabhi mana bhi nahe kiya, aisi kafe examples hain poocho kisi se ja keh. Rona biddat hai kiya baat hai sir aap ki aap ko waise kafe knowledge hai :-).

agar lafzoon ke zaroorat nahi to u bhai aaisee lifazi kayoon kartay hoo

 

[bons]

اِن پے رونا سنت
​

Billo bhai,
thori tafseel bataen ke kis tarha rona sunnat hay? Agar hay to kis ki sunnat hay?

 

[shehreyar]

molana ka biyan bahut sadaha hay jo samajh ata hay or islami celander pay gor karein maien bahut had tak mutafeq hon mager amyar ekhtalaf hay kay ya jo girya zari hay or zanjeer **** hay woh islam maien jaez nahi hay .allah tala nay quran pak maien kaha hay kay sog siraf teen din ka hota hay us kay bad grya zari or sina kobi na kro takay ya na lagay kay nauzbillah allah tala nay zulm ki hay tum pay kiyon kay allah tala apnay bandon pay zulm nahi karta .bay shak aysay hi hay .or zanjeer **** qiyamat kay roz hamaray jism ka eak eak hisa gowahi day ga kay ay allah ya hum pay zulam karata tha ,hath gawahi daien gay kay ay allah ya hum say gunah karta tha .ankhien gawahi daien gai kay ay allah ya hum o gunah daykhany pay majbor karta tha hum ko bora dakhata tha ,paon kahien gay kay ay allah ya hum ko bori rah pay chalata tha dil damag sab apni apni achay or borai ki gowahi daien gaien to kiya posht na kahy gai kay ay allah ya tay ray nabi kay nawasay ka man lay kay hum pay zulam kartha jab kay janta tha kay ya sara jisam tayri amanat hay tu socho log kay tum kahan acha kartay ho or kahan bora allah ki ebadat karna sawab hay mager allah kay nam pay zulm karna gonah hay nabi muhammadpbuh kay nowasa pay yazeed nay ager zulam kiya tu aap un ki takleef ko nahi dohratay aap tu sina kobi kar kay yazzed ki talqeed kartay ho kiyon kay parnay maien aya hay kay jab yazeed nay sona hazarat husen(raziallahtala anho )ki shahadat ka tu us nay apnay sinay pay hath mar kay kaha tha hay ya tum nay kiya kiya maien nay yah tu nahi chah tha ab aap socho kaiya ho rah hay ,allah hum sab pay raham karay aamien

 

[Marwat]

well........both 10 have their importance but .........what makes us a muslim is the basics of islam....5 ....Kalma-e-shahada.....Salat...zakat...haj...fasting.......and all of us need to b practical muslims and about these we wil b judged on the day of judgement.....................these 5 r uncompromiseable..........................but unfortunatley most of us have forgotten these 5 basics of islam and stuck in the least important issues.

 

[rajakhanmd]

Taken from Islamonline.net

Cheek Striking in Mourning Al-Hussein… Shiite Fatwa

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Thank you for your question, which demonstrates your eagerness to do what is lawful and avoid what is prohibited.

Nothing in the Shari`ah prohibits sadness for the death of dear people; it is an innate feeling. However, one should demonstrate such sadness without violating the rules of Islam. For example, slapping the face, tearing clothes, slashing the back and hitting the head with swords are all forbidden acts. If one does so, then he is harming himself, and in Islam one is not allowed to even expose himself to harm or ruin.

If people do such deeds to show sympathy for imam Al-Hussein (may Allah be pleased with him), then they should rather show it by spreading justice, as Al-Hussein sought to do.
Thus, these Shiite customs done to mourn imam Al-Hussein (may Allah be pleased with him) have no Islamic basis, not even in the Shiite jurisprudence itself. Such acts are no more than individual practices that developed into regular customs of millions of people with the elapse of time so that anyone who acts against them is resented. However, most contemporary Shiite scholars prohibit such acts and practices and consider them a type of backwardness.

Responding to your question, Sheikh Muhammad HussainFadlullah, a major Shiite scholar in Lebanon, states the following:

There is a common denominator between the rites of celebration on the tenth of Muharram in the past and in the present time. It is mainly to condole the death of imam Al-Hussein (may Allah be pleased with him). In the past, people used to strike their cheeks as an expression of sorrow, but not in an excessive way as people do at present.

Nowadays, people observe some excessive habits such as hitting their heads with swords and slashing their backs with iron chains.

Such extreme customs did not emerge as a result of legal collective ijtihad based on the Shari`ah. Rather, they emerged out of individual innovation that turned into ritual acts that so excited people’s sympathy that they imitated them blindly until they became sacred customs that none can ignore; otherwise one would be considered negligent and extremist. The issue reached the extreme that even reverent scholars do not dare to stand in the face of the majority to dissuade them from such extremism, because whoever tries to do so will be accused of hating the Prophet’s household and trying to erase their tracks and erase them from people’s memory.

Some people may argue that some great scholars in the field of Shari`ah, 50 and 60 years ago, issuedfatwas legalizing the Shiite rites on that occasion. They said that such rites are not originally prohibited unless they lead to ruining oneself.

Concerning the reason for issuing those fatwas, they were raised in a juristic seminar on “Is It Prohibited for Man to Harm Himself? What about Slight Harms?” This means, for instance, injuring one’s hand, hitting the head, and the like which does not lead to man’s ruin. Is the harm itself prohibited or what is unlawful is the harm that leads to destroying oneself or jeopardizing one’s heath?

There are two views on this case:

The first view indicates that harming oneself is intrinsically forbidden, unless there is an urgent need for it, such as the dangers man faces in his travels or working day and night to attain material and spiritual gains. There must be a prior estimation of the benefit or loss entailed by subjecting oneself to harm. If the benefit expected from tiring oneself deserves the harm borne in its cause, then benefit is given priority over harm in such a case. That is, one disregards the harm he would do himself for the benefit he would attain. Hence, those who hold this view see that it is prohibited for man to harm himself, even in mourning or expressing love, et cetera.

There is another view adopted by many scholars. They maintain that man is not prohibited to harm himself if such harm would not lead him to a bad state of health or to death.

In light of this view, scholars see that hitting the head with a sword and striking the cheeks in mourning are not forbidden acts in themselves. Rather, they are forbidden because man is forbidden to do anything that may lead to his ruin.

Scholars who legalize harming oneself in principle hold some restrictions. They see that the issue in question is prohibited in certain cases if it leads to something prohibited in the second place.

The above view is also maintained by the late major Shiite scholar Sheikh As-Sayed Abul-QasimAl-Khaw`ie.

As for my own opinion regarding this issue, I consider such acts and practices as forbidden. This stems from the well-established fact that hurting oneself is forbidden as far as the Islamic Shari`ah is concerned unless there is a necessity for that. Thereupon, it is forbidden to strike heads with swords, or backs with chains, or even to harshly strike one’s cheeks that may hurt him even slightly. This can be deducted from the aforementioned texts that prove that harming one’s self is forbidden.

In addition, rational thinking requires this, as people reject the idea of anyone doing any sort of harm to himself. All these support my opinion that such acts are forbidden in Islam even if they are done in the name of sadness and mourning.

I have another observation in this regard, that those who strike their heads with swords or backs with lashes claim that they do this to express sympathy with imam Al-Hussein (may Allah be pleased with him) in his pains and with Zainab (may Allah be pleased with her) and her sisters when she was scourged. But, I would say that expressing sympathy does not require one to be injured in the same way as imam Al-Hussein or to be scourged in the same way as Zainab.

Truly, Al-Hussein was injured while he was striving in Allah’s Cause. So, those who express sympathy with imam Al-Hussein are only those Palestinian young men who fight against the Israeli enemy. They are indeed injured in a similar stance as that of imam Al-Hussein’s. Also, those who show sympathy with Zainab are none but those who suffer from whipping in the vaults of the Israeli prisons. This is because she was scourged in the way of an “issue”.

Based on all the aforementioned, I find it necessary to wipe out these customs, for they are forbidden due to the many negative effects they have on the individual level and on the level of the image of the Shiite Muslims all over the world. That’s why I said earlier that they are some sort of backwardness.

 

[rajakhanmd]

Bottom line: Mourning on the 10th Moharram should not be used as a gauge to determine anyone's love for Hazrah Hussain R.A.

 

[such bolo]

Masla yeh hai k ager Rafziyet ki taareekh perh lee jai aur ahlusunnah ki tareekh perh lee jai tu phir oper ki nazem k peechey bunyadi aqaid ka pata chal jaiga... meger afsoos sud afsoos k na tu Rafziyet ki taareekh aur hakeeket inkee kitabon se perhee gayee hai na hee ahlusunnah ka mo'akkuf....Ager yahan ye sub cheezien bayan ki jain tu shaayed thread bund kerdiya jaiga....Mujhey umeed hai jo bhi Muslaman is saaree hakeeket ko jaanney ki koshish kerega inshaAllah os pe huq zaror wazeh hojaiga...

Ye Nazem aur Hazret Husein ki shahdet k kissey mien jo EXAGGERATION hai ye sub aik makhsoos zehniyet ki karastaani hai...jo is kissey ki aar mien Kholfa e Rashideen, Sahaba, Ummahtul Momineen aur Muslamano k aik makhsoos qabiley ko ta'an, tashnee aur taberrey ka nishaana banatey hien.... (Is kissey ko bayan kertey wakt jis qader jhoot bolaa jaata hai shayad hee kisi kissey k bayan mien bola jaata ho)....Allah hum sub ko quran aur hadeeth ka saheeh fehem aur amal ki taufeeq de aur her qisam ki gumrahi se bachaaye...aameen.

wamaa alaina illal balaagh....

 

[atensari]

حضرت حسین رضی اللہ نے اسلام کے نظام خلافت کو ملوکیت کے بڑھتے ساۓ سے بچانے کی بھرپور کوشش کی، ان کے اسوہ سے یہی سبق ملتا ہے کے ہم اسلام اور اس کۓ نظام کو غالب کرنے کی عملی کوشش کریں ​

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

There are very useful lectures of Maulana Tariq Jamil and Maulana Ishaq regarding this subject in following thread.

Lectures of Maulana Tariq Jamil and Maulana Ishaq

Unfortunately, there is extreme minority group exist in Sunni School of thought who has gone on such an extreme for refuting Shia School of thought regarding battle of Karbala that they not only admire Yazid as hero and justify his crimes but also declare Imam Hussain's (May Allah be Pleased with him) actions contrary to Islam.

May Allah give them Hidayah and fill their hearts with the love of Imam Hussain (May Allah be Pleased with him) instead of Yazid.